Talk:Wikimedia Café

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Casual chat, once a month, one hour, in video, about wiki![edit]

Seems cool to me! Let's try it! Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

My zoom instance at my university[edit]

My university in the United States provides a zoom account to use for this meeting.

It offers toll free numbers for some countries but not others. I regret, for example, that I have no toll-free number for India.

I am not sure if this is typical or uncommon. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Layout for maintaining this page[edit]

As a layout model for this page I propose the one for the

This group has met for about a year at this point and is at a point to better present and archive its meetings and notes. Not all parts of that model apply here but having a landing page and meeting minutes archive probably are. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

More visibility on Wikimedia Space[edit]

Hello, I'd like to suggest adding this event to the calendar of events on Wikimedia Space. We're seeing about a thousand daily page views with over 500 users at this point. Users receive summary emails (not unlike mailing list digests) that include new events as they are added. You can login with your Wikimedia account and the process takes only a few minutes. If you need help, let me know and I'd be glad to lend a hand. Good luck with future Café events! CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 16:20, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I will pass on the idea to others. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Added March Event RhinosF1 (talk) 06:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Invitations for the November 2019 meeting[edit]

Hi Bluerasberry, I put an announcement on the Meta Main page. Last month's event was well attended, I think partly because you sent calendar invitations. Would you be willing to send calendar invitations again for this month? In future months that might not be necessary, but because we're continuing the conversation from last month I think that it would be good to remind the people who attended last time about the November meeting. Thank you, ↠Pine () 07:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Tentative change of time and date for January 2020 meeting[edit]

See this change. ↠Pine () 23:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)


March 2020[edit]

@Pine: Is there a plan for a March Meeting? RhinosF1 (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi @RhinosF1: yes, although I was too busy last week to set up announcements. I sent an email to User:Bluerasberry, and I'm pinging him again here. He may also have been so busy last week that he didn't get around to the setup for the Café. The short version is that the next Café will be on March 28th at the same time as last month's Café. ↠Pine () 05:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
@RhinosF1: You have my most sincere invitation to put whatever you want to discuss right at the top of the live agenda. Please join this casual conversation. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I’ll let you know if I can make it. RhinosF1 (talk) 20:37, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Daylight savings time[edit]

A daylight savings time change happened. Either those of us who had a DST change will start the meeting one hour later, or those not observing DST will start the meeting one hour earlier. I think that we should keep the UTC constant, which would mean the former, and I'll change the page to reflect this. Pinging User:Bluerasberry, User:RhinosF1, and User:Nosebagbear. Please ping me if you comment here. Thanks. ↠Pine () 20:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes UTC FTW Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

1 hour insufficient[edit]

Given the agenda today, I just feel either we need a longer cafe, or another meeting one week away (rather than a month) - there's no way the official topic of the cafe (which is an extremely serious topic) can be discussed in sufficient detail if the dreaded c-topic also is covered in reasonable depth, as would be desired. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: We stayed an unscheduled extra hour today. I would like to keep to a schedule so that people know how much time there will be to discuss issues but with COVID-19 and interest today it just went on this time. Thanks for coming, thanks for speaking out. Add items to the agenda and if you have specific questions you want answered or addressed then add them to a future meetup.
I am indifferent to the topics of discussion other than they should be of broad interest, and I think you have a civil way of raising points which are challenging to discuss on wiki. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Bluerasberry: - you did of course do so, and I should have followed this up to say I was very appreciative it was significantly extended to deal with having two major topics. Yours, Nosebagbear (talk) 20:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Taking turns when there is high attendance[edit]

I think that the March 2020 Café had the highest attendance so far, with 17 people at the peak. In the future if we get more than approximately 8 people then I think that we should increase the formality of taking turns, perhaps by requiring people to raise hands to be unmuted and with time limits of 2 minutes per turn. The host could be responsible for making sure that this happens. What do others think? Pinging Bluerasberry in particular. Thanks to everyone for the good attendance today. ↠Pine () 23:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

  • @Pine: Yes I feel the same way. Also I want the schedule proposed to the minute before the call starts. Good call, thanks for moderating, you were good at first and are getting better with practice. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Topic and date for April 2020[edit]

Hi User:Bluerasberry, for April 2020 do you have a preference for the date being the 18th or the 25th?

For a topic, how about Wikidata? We can invite Lydia or one of her staff to come. ↠Pine () 22:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Pine: You suggested previously non-WMF sources of funding. I thought about that and like the idea. Do you want to have a go? Otherwise we could do Wikidata. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: How about having three topics in the pipeline, and any topic from this list that we don't get to during April we can discuss in May? The three topics, in this order would be 1. fundraising from non-WMF sources, 2. maps on Wikimedia projects, and 3. Wikidata. By the way, the ping template only sends someone a notification if you use that template and sign in the same edit. ↠Pine () 20:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@Pine: Sure if we talk about maps then might be available to present en:List of COTA bus routes. Check that out, click the "show" button, it is a new and powerful application. If we talked about Wikidata then a good start could be in d:Wikidata:Tours, which has been mostly down for 3 years but just reopened. It is for beginners and John Cummings is soliciting people to draft scripts which he would stage for conversion into a tour if someone wanted to teach a particular task, like for their own project or outreach. The themes are great. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@, John Cummings, and Bluerasberry: are you available to meet on April 18th or April 25th? The time on either day would be 9:30 AM Pacific time / 12:30 PM Eastern time / 4:30 PM UTC / 10 PM IST. Thanks, ↠Pine () 23:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I've got nothing planned until life resumes... (talk) 00:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@: sounds good. @Bluerasberry: would you be willing to send an email announcement? You can choose the 18th or the 25th. Also, please mention that we will change the format slightly to require people to raise hands and wait to be recognized so that the meeting can handle a larger number of participants. Also, please mention this announcement from Zoom which addresses some privacy problems but advise people to decide whether they are comfortable taking the risks that are associated with using Zoom, and remind people that participating in the Café is entirely optional. Finally, to avoid Zoombombing, when you start the meeting, please disable screen sharing for everyone except the host, and disable file transfers, private chat, and annotation. There is a Zoom blog post that discusses these points at https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/03/20/keep-uninvited-guests-out-of-your-zoom-event/. Thanks, ↠Pine () 06:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)