Talk:Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2022

Problems from previous years

Are the problems seen in previous years going to occur again? Without looking back at previous threads, I can recall the following:

• photos added to articles that already had that exact photo
• photos added at the very top of articles when they should be either in the infobox or in a relevant section
• irrelevant photos added to articles
• cryptic edit summaries - #WPWP is no good, it must at the very least link to a page about the campaign
• users not responding to messages on their talk pages

There are probably more. --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 17:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Redrose64, we are aware of these (and more) problems from the previous editions and have put measures in place to prevent recurrence. So no, they'll not recur, hopefully.

All the first three points you listed are generally as a result of inexperience or guileless incompetence because the campaign allowed everybody to participate with lax restrictions. You can find our detailed campaign evaluation report about that here. One of the changes we made this year to remedy that is we have revised the eligibility criteria to participate. We now require users be around much longer (before the campaign round starts) and by that to hopefully have the basic experience with wikitext/image syntaxes and local project policies that will allow them comply with the campaign and local project rules around their onwiki edits and actions. We believe this measure (along with the other changes we made) will help prevent most of the problems you listed and the ones you didn't as well as make the campaign more successful overall.

We take note of the edit summary issue and would encourage better alternative this year. Experienced users already are aware they have the latitude to use more descriptive edit summary in this regard. While the hashtag is required for the campaign for various reason, it's not required to be the only text in the summary. The tool that analyzes it allows it to be in the beginning, in the middle or at the end of a running text, not necessarily to be used alone. On the issue of linking, please note, the hashtag is meant for a tool to analyze, not humans to decipher (and this is the case for most other campaigns that are using hashtags on our projects). So we will encourage alternatives such as the one use for #WikiForHumanRights or #1Lib1ref campaigns where normal descriptive summary encouraged by the local community should be used, and the hashtag inserted somewhere in the text.

On the issue of communication with users, this is also closely tied with the main problem of inexperience. Generally new users struggle with talkpage communication and this is not peculiar to this campaign. We hope the raised bar for eligibility to participate would remedy this issue. If experienced users are not responding to issues raised on their talk-page, then that's a local behavior problem with the user and we believe extant local guidelines would be able to resolve that, whether it pertains to this campaign or not. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:55, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 08:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

It was very frustrating last year to use the WD4WP tool and constantly have my edits reverted for adding an improper image. Not sure if the rule changes this year will help with the problem... You take the suggestions from the tool but then quite often they'd get reverted. Seems to be poor planning all around (one hand suggests "upload this image!" then the other hand says "why'd you upload that image??"). I'll likely participate again this year, but not to the extent I did last year, because of the frustrations. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

cryptic edit summaries - it has begun. Now I can look forward to a load of crap in my watchlist for the next month. --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 22:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I am afraid Redrose64, I believe I have been around for sometime to be considered experienced on enwiki, I don't consider that edit summary "cryptic" or unacceptable to enwiki norms. The summary said what the edit did clearly even if it's not long enough to your liking. I don't know how edit sumamary that says "image added" for edit that indeed added image can be said to be cryptic. Or maybe you're linking to a wrong example?. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:12, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

It just says "image added #WPWP". There is no link to a page about this campaign. So, to somebody who doesn't know about the campaign, the ES is cryptic. --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 22:51, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Images added via Wikidata

I asked a question about this subject on the other talk page. Wouterhagens (talk) 09:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Wouterhagens, I have answered you question there. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

AzWiki

Can I participate in the contest from Azerbaijani Wiki? White Demツn^talk 17:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you can. – Ammarpad (talk) 12:22, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

edit via script

See Talk:Wikipedia_Pages_Wanting_Photos_2021#Is_edit_via_script_allowed?. Will it be same this year? If yes, there is no point participating :( You can't win unless you know bot script. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Wow, that really ruins it. I really pushed along last year but no way can I compete with a script. I'll do it for fun, but not to try and win. Oaktree b (talk) 00:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi আফতাবুজ্জামান and Oaktree b. I have checked with the team and the short answer is yes, using tools/script is allowed.

Now longer version, usually normal Wikipedia editing rules apply to this campaign as they do for any other campaigns; and there's no Wikipedia as far as I know where script-aided edits are completely disallowed. So it will also be unfair to invent new rule to specifically disallow people who are willing to use that method. So the campaign overall is neutral on this, as long as a particular edit complies with the campaign rules and local community policies, it's fine irrespective of the method used in making it. Thank you – Ammarpad (talk) 14:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

User's statistics

Hi, where can I find my own statistics or my friends' statistics now and then? As far as I remenber it was individual statistics page last year but now I can't find it. Something like that I mean:

• Username1 - 50 (articles illustrated)
• Username2 - 240 (articles illustrated)

and so on. -- Екатерина Борисова (talk) 19:35, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

WPWP at Arabic Wikipedia

Hi. Last year results are not announced yet: Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2021/Results#Arabic Wikipedia WPWP. How about this year? Ruwaym (talk) 11:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for the slow response, Ruwaym. I am not watching this page as I no longer coordinate this campaign. I have emailed the Arabic Wikipedia WPWP 2021 coordinator to publish the result as they are responsible for publishing the result. I didn't know it wasn't published. We sincerely apologise. T Cells^Talk 04:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

@T Cells It's ok. Thank you Cells. Ruwaym (talk) 11:34, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

WPWP Telugu Wikipedia

We wish to let you know that the Telugu Wikipedia community is adding a extension of 25-days for Project Wikipedia pages that need photographs. These adjustments will only be taken into account for the local project and not for the global project. You can view the page that was established to compile the opinions of the Telugu Wikipedia community members.

By including 2112 new photographs in the Telugu Wikipedia articles, the initiative has reached its first milestone on 2022 August 31. Due to a delay in receiving the funds (we've received the grant amount on 2022 September 21), the competition rewards were not posted on our project page before the project began. We believe that announcing the incentives up front would have inspired more participants to contribute to the project.

Considering these scenarios, the community passed a resolution to organize a mileage edit-a-thon of the project Wikipedia Pages wanting photos -2022 for 25 days starting from 2022 Oct 6 till Oct 31.

Please be notified.

Thank you

Nskjnv (talk) 17:12, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello Nskjnv,

Thank you for the notification. For added clarity, please note that if there are submissions on Telugu Wikipedia or users from there being considered for the global prizes, only submissions within the original campaign period would be considered; as we cannot alter that after the campaign has ended. I believe the Telugu community understood this during these conversations. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)