User talk:Donald Trung
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yeah, you see the fallacy of the excluded middle. and preventative risk reduction, rather than curation. burden is on the editor to work around the snap, blanket decisions. they just want to label editors or flickr uploaders as bad guys - all the copyright vios come from people, not from bad decisions. and we have tools to manage people problems, with no appeal. what nuance is there, is ignored in practice. i guess the image curation will have to happen at flickr. Slowking4 (talk) 16:03, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes, a gray list makes sense. but i suspects the blacklist maintainers will never agree to lower their drawbridge. i would suggest a project page, with a list of links to the flickr images. i don't know if there are tools to automatically do this, but if it is only a thousand, then you could hand list them, and then hand upload circumventing upload wizard. (a creaky task flow is better than none). having a page with a task flow would be a start. cheers. Slowking4 (talk) 00:31, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
they do have a page
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The (in)visibility of the Wikimedia Commons
the reason why commons is not mentioned in creative commons and GLAM work, is that the commons culture is widely seen to be antagonistic to GLAM work. too many institutions have been bit by commons deletionists, most recently . institutions would rather not mention or comment on the cultural hurdles they must overcome to do the mission. commons is a walled garden where admins are always right, even when talking to people with PhDs. you will find it hard to find anyone to say anything complementary about commons. but the mission continues. GLAM newsletter has some periodic announcements of donations.  cheers.--Slowking4 (talk) 01:23, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- and by the crickets at your village pump comment, they do not care. they like the diminished vision. they would rather rule over hell, than serve in heaven, --Slowking4 (talk) 12:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- ".Yet we don't see GLAM's even talking about any of this, we don't see anyone who has "the spirit of free educational content" actively discussing moving their stuff here." ... "If they want it to be a GLAM-friendlier place then they should come here and tell us exactly what they want and how they want it."
- they came to commons and were bitten, periodically some interns try to upload items, and they are deleted. i hang out with GLAMs all the time. the best you can expect is for them to change their licenses, so we can do the uploads. they are not interested in interacting with the "cultural buzzsaw" : expecting everyone else to do the emotional labor navigating commons gate-keeping, is a failed model of collaboration. i am on the GLAMs side --Slowking4 (talk) 23:41, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- that is very good. yes, the proliferation of policy started in 2007 as the deletionists wanted more rationales to delete stuff. they could not win a general consensus in the larger group, so they would organize a consensus of three on an obscure subpage to generate more wp:XYZ reasons to delete. and block those who did not conform to the new rules. and we are now seeing the use of global lock to block users, based on a checkuser, bypassing the admins and process at local wikis, even if that does not have consensus at meta. it is all about the winning, with the ethics of richard stallman. and all about the "moderation" by dictation, rather than collaboration. --Slowking4 (talk) 11:33, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Request for partial unblock
— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: this user is not blocked from editing this talk page, why are you proxy editing unblock requests for them? — xaosflux Talk 18:41, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Consider it me vouching for Donald to not abuse the ability to edit their user pages. Donald doesn't agree with the motivation behind the block, at least not it's indefinite nature, and feels administrators could be prejudiced if he made any request himself. And Donald often gets wordy, which he probably knows himself, and with requests like these that can rub people the wrong way, so I wrote this. But both me and Donald are not actually appealing the motivation at this moment: Donald was blocked for his behavior in discussions, ergo, there is no justification to block Donald from non-talk namespaces. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: (and @Alexis Jazz:). Here's what I'm willing to do right now. I'm converting your siteblock to a most namespaces block. Technically, I'm not blocking you from the "User:" namespace, however you are to only edit/create pages within Special:PrefixIndex/User:Donald_Trung. You must strictly adhere to the Meta:Civility policy. If you would like to appeal your original block, please create your own unblock template here where an uninvolved admin may either process it, or possibly relay it to Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat for review by a group. — xaosflux Talk 19:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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