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Upcoming IdeaLab Events: IEG Proposal Clinics[edit]

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Hello, Slowking4! We've added Events to IdeaLab, and you're invited :)

Upcoming events focus on turning ideas into Individual Engagement Grant proposals before the March 31 deadline. Need help or have questions about IEG? Join us at a Hangout:

  • Thursday, 13 March 2014, 1600 UTC
  • Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 1700 UTC
  • Saturday, 29 March 2014, 1700 UTC

Hope to see you there!

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Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decitions[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on

I'm notifying you because you participated in one of several relevant discussions. -Pete F (talk) 22:20, 20 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

added Art+Feminism grants[edit]

Hello Slowking4, I thought you would be interested to know that we expanded the IdeaLab post into two grants: an IEG grant, and a PEG grant this week We welcome your comments, questions, and endorsement. --Theredproject (talk) 14:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please fill out our Inspire campaign survey[edit]

Thank you for participating in the Wikimedia Inspire campaign during March 2015!

Please take our short survey and share your experience during the campaign.

Many thanks,

Jmorgan (WMF) (talk), on behalf of the IdeaLab team.

23:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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Community discussion on harassment reporting[edit]

There are many current proposals as part of the 2015 Inspire Campaign related to harassment management. I’ve created a page, Grants:IdeaLab/Community discussion on harassment reporting meant to serve as a central space where the various stakeholders in these proposals and other community members can discuss which methods might serve our community best so that we can unify our ideas into collective action. I encourage you to join the conversation and contribute your ideas! OR drohowa (talk) 01:13, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?[edit]

Hi! The Wikimedia Foundation would like your input on how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project.

After reading the Reimagining WMF grants idea, we ask you to complete this survey to help us improve the idea and learn more about your experience. When you complete the survey, you can enter to win one of five Wikimedia globe sweatshirts!

In addition to taking the the survey, you are welcome to participate in these ways:

This survey is in English, but feedback on the discussion page is welcome in any language.

With thanks,

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Last call for WMF grants feedback![edit]

Hi, this is a reminder that the consultation about Reimagining WMF grants is closing on 8 September (0:00 UTC). We encourage you to complete the survey now, if you haven't yet done so, so that we can include your ideas.

With thanks,

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Talk of Friday[edit]

Hi Slowking4, are going to have a presentation on Friday, at the Wikisource Conference? How much time do you need? I have to find you a spot in the program (there's plenty for now :-). Please let me know asap. --Aubrey (talk) 21:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

hi Aubrey , i have prepared some slides, since you have me arriving late thursday, i would prefer the afternoon slot, but fell free to put me in where available (i hear the coffee is strong) Slowking4 (talk) 04:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
thanks Slowking4, it depends on what you are talking about. If it is good as an introduction or something, it's better the morning. What is the topic? --Aubrey (talk) 09:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
If it's ok with you, I would say late morning... --Aubrey (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

What future IdeaLab campaigns would you like to see?[edit]

Hi there,

I’m Jethro, and I’m seeking your help in deciding topics for new IdeaLab campaigns that could be run starting next year. These campaigns aim to bring in proposals and solutions from communities that address a need or problem in Wikimedia projects. I'm interested in hearing your preferences and ideas for campaign topics!

Here’s how to participate:

Take care,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 03:33, 5 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for taking part in the Community Health learning campaign![edit]

Community Health learning campaign - Analysis Report of Community Responses
Thank you!

apologies for writing in English, if this is not your first language.
I want to thank you once more for engaging in conversation on the Community Health learning campaign. It took us a while, but we can finally announce the winner of the prize, as well as share the outcomes of this conversation.

You might also be interested in taking part in the 2015 Harassment consultation. This is the first of several planned consultations on this topic, intended to provide a place to discuss ideas, concerns, proposals and possible solutions regarding Wikimedia communities’ harassment-related challenges.

This conversation would not have been the same without you. If you have more ideas, or follow up comments on the findings of the campaign, don't hesitate to leave me a message my talk page.

Have a great day,


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First in line![edit]

Thank you. :D I really appreciate your input. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

i appreciate the effort, tried pushing at facebook; we'll see. Slowking4 (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Future IdeaLab Campaigns results[edit]

Last December, I invited you to help determine future ideaLab campaigns by submitting and voting on different possible topics. I'm happy to announce the results of your participation, and encourage you to review them and our next steps for implementing those campaigns this year. Thank you to everyone who volunteered time to participate and submit ideas.

With great thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 23:56, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Harassment workshop[edit]

Greetings! You are receiving this message because, at some point in the past, you have participated in a discussion around the topic of harassment. The Support and Safety team is holding a series of consultations gathering feedback on the best potential solutions to the problem. The next stage is a workshop where we hope to narrow the focus to individual actionable ideas and explore how to bring some of these ideas to life.

Best regards, the Support and Safety team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Inspire Campaign on content curation & review[edit]

I've recently launched an Inspire Campaign to encourage new ideas focusing on content review and curation in Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia volunteers collaboratively manage vast repositories of knowledge, and we’re looking for your ideas about how to manage that knowledge to make it more meaningful and accessible. We invite you to participate and submit ideas, so please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 28th.

All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is welcome - your skills and experience can help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign to improve review and curation tasks so that we can make our content more meaningful and accessible! I JethroBT (WMF) 05:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants[edit]

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 15:57, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Survey on content curation & review Inspire Campaign[edit]

Thanks for your participation in IdeaLab during the Inspire Campaign focused on improving content curation & review processes from February to March 2016. I'm interested in hearing your feedback about your participation during campaign, so if you're able, I invite you to complete this brief survey to describe how you contributed to the campaign and how you felt about participating.

Immediate results of the campaign can be found here. Please feel free to review them and let me know if you have any questions about the campaign or the survey. Thanks! I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 02:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Re: AGF[edit]

I still believe that most users are rooted in AGF. WMF is a degeneration of the worse, but perhaps you're right that they're rather a degeneration of what's worse in each of us. Nemo 06:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

yep, we get the culture we deserve. the naive newbies who AGF are constantly bitten by the cynical admins or staff. the high handed command style of "leadership" is based on ignorance. we won't change because we don't want to learn. Slowking4 (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Through June, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas focusing on addressing harassment toward Wikimedia contributors. The 2015 Harassment Survey has shown evidence that harassment in various forms - name calling, threats, discrimination, stalking, and impersonation, among others - is pervasive. Available methods and systems to deal with harassment are also considered to be ineffective. These behaviors are clearly harmful, and in addition, many individuals who experience or witness harassment participate less in Wikimedia projects or stop contributing entirely.

Proposals in any language are welcome during the campaign - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign so that we can work together to develop ideas around this important and difficult issue. With thanks,

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Thank you[edit]

Hi Slowking4! First of all I wish to thank you for your support for the idea "More culture, less harassment". I think you have perfectly understood my meaning. Maybe someone else will go on with the project, I intend to stop here. I watched on you tube your presentation at the Wikimedia Diversity Conference in Washington, it was very interesting. I gave my support for your idea of training ambassadors. My opinion is that it is really necessary to do something for creating a new and better atmosphere in Wikipedia. Best regards, --Kenzia (talk) 17:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for your message. It's very kind of you. I confess I'm a little discouraged. Besides, it seems to me that you are the only one who understood the meaning of my idea. I'll write to Wittylama, following your suggestion. --Kenzia (talk) 06:50, 26 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Survey on Inspire Campaign for addressing harassment[edit]

Thanks for your participation during the Inspire Campaign focused on addressing harassment from June 2016. I'm interested in hearing your experience during the campaign, so if you're able, I invite you to complete this brief survey to describe how you contributed to the campaign and how you felt about participating.

Please feel free to let me know on my talk page if you have any questions about the campaign or the survey. Thanks! I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 03:23, 10 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Whose Knowledge? user group update[edit]

Hi! Thanks for joining the Whose Knowledge user group - we’re so glad to have you involved!

Here are some updates about recent activities:

  • User group approved: Our user group was officially approved in October - hooray! Big thanks to Raystorm and FloNight for the idea to create a user group for the Whose Knowledge? campaign :)
  • Mapping feminist knowledge at AWID's 2016 Forum: Interested in learning more about what we’ve been doing lately? Read our blog post on what we learned from mapping feminist knowledge at Association for Women's Rights in Developments 2016 Forum.
  • New grant proposal:
    • We’ve proposed a WMF project grant. It would be great to have your feedback and/or endorsement by November 1 if this project interests you!
    • It would also be great to have your help notifying communities already working on systemic bias about this proposal. Here is a draft message to use if you'd like - please translate, change as you see fit for your own context, and share in any communities you’re active in on and off-wiki!

Looking forward to doing more together very soon! Siko (talk) 02:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Logotype for Connected Open Heritage[edit]

The new official Connected Open Heritage logotype.


After the public consultation we have decided to pick Logo 1 as the new logotype for Connected Open Heritage. There was a great set of options and the decision was not easy. Thank you kindly for your work and your creativity!

Best, John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 13:02, 22 November 2016 (UTC) (on behalf of the COH team)Reply


Good to hear from you and to have such a helpful message. Did you mean half way through volume 12 or half way through to volume 12.5? Let me know and I'll add a message to Wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Encyclopaedia Britannica to get some additional helpers. -- PBS (talk) 20:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Whose Knowledge? News - February 2017[edit]

Thanks for all of your support for Whose Knowledge? so far! Get ready, we're going to need lots of your help in 2017 :)

What's new in 2017:

1. Volunteers needed

As Whose Knowledge? grows, there are lots of things to do! Can you help?

  • Are you good with data entry, categories, mailing lists or social media? We especially need people to help with organizing knowledge for Dalit History Month, and building out our communications (including this monthly newsletter!) right now!
  • If you're interested in volunteering for these or any other projects, please signup here

2. Pilot projects

Building partnerships and testing our approach with marginalized communities.

  • Dalit History Month: We're working with Equality Labs to support Dalit communities in South Asia and the United States to map knowledge and create Wikipedia content. Dalit History Month edit-a-thons are coming in April!
  • Women's Human Rights Defenders: In partnership with Urgent Action Fund, we'll be supporting a group of women's human rights defenders around the world with more mapping and wiki content creation. Themes and geographies coming soon!
  • Kumeyaay Wikipedia Initiative: Following the 2016 Indigenous People's Day edit-a-thon, we're continuing to work with members of the Kumeyaay tribe in Southern California and Baja to map and contribute indigenous knowledge to Wikimedia projects. A discussion day with Kumeyaay community in San Diego is being planned for May.

3. Funding

We've got financial support for 2017!

  • WMF grant: 6-month funding (February-July 2017) was approved to pilot our approach to mapping knowledge and creating Wikipedia content with the Dalit community and global women's human rights defenders. Thanks for all your endorsements!
  • Shuttleworth Fellowship: Anasuya is a Shuttleworth Fellow! This means we'll be able to spend more time organizing, and have support for convenings, campaign infrastructure, etc.

4. Wikimedia Strategy

Find us at Wikimedia Conference.

  • Anasuya and Siko will be carrying the Whose Knowledge? vision of diversity, pluralism and representation of marginalized communities into movement strategy conversations in Berlin March 2017.
  • What's your vision for the Wikimedia movement? If you have a perspective that you'd like us to help represent in Berlin, please reach out and let us know!

In solidarity,

Siko (talk) 23:55, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your participation during the Inspire Campaign focused on outreach to outside knowledge networks from February 2017. I'm interested in hearing your experience during the campaign, so if you're able, I invite you to complete this brief survey to describe how you contributed to the campaign and how you felt about participating. I want to improve how campaigns are run, so let me know if there's something that could be done better for next time.

Please feel free to let me know on my talk page if you have any questions about the campaign or the survey. Thanks! I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 18:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Survey link error fixed[edit]

Hi there, there was a error with the Inspire survey link that caused the survey to be shown as expired, but has now been fixed. The link in the above message should now bring you to the survey. Apologies, I JethroBT (WMF) 19:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Whose Knowledge?: [April 2017][edit]

Whose Knowledge News
April 2017 • Volume 1 • Issue 2
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Wikimedia Strategy: Knowledge is Global
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Whose Knowledge?: [July 2017][edit]

Whose Knowledge News
July 2017 • Volume 1 • Issue 3
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Welcome to the Structured Commons focus group![edit]

Hello! Thank you very much for signing up to the community focus group for Structured Commons :-)

How to organize ourselves?

This focus group is new and experimental, and I welcome your tips and thoughts on how we can organize this in the most convenient and productive way. For now, I have posted a few separate topics on the focus group's talk page. Please add your questions there too! If we all add that page to our watchlist, that's probably a good way to stay up to date with current discussions. Steinsplitter has also initiated a brand new IRC channel specifically for Structured Commons: wikimedia-commons-sd (webchat) which we invite you to join. Please let me know if you have other ideas on how to work together.

Current updates

Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)

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Welcome to the Dispute Resolution Focus Group[edit]

Hi Slowking4,

Thank you for signing up, and welcome to the dispute resolution focus group!

Read over the focus group introduction to get started.

Then read through the first module, which begins now and ends on Monday. The first module will be conducted via email, while later modules will be conducted on a separate page. We will provide additional logistical information as the focus group progresses.

Thanks again! JosephNegotiation (talk) 22:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Structured Commons focus group update, Nov 21, 2017[edit]

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IRC office hour today, 21 November, 18.00 UTC
  • The IRC office hour about Structured Commons takes place at 18:00 UTC in wikimedia-office webchat. Amanda, Ramsey and I will give updates about the project, and you can ask us questions. The log will be published afterwards.
Tools update

Many important community tools for Commons and Wikidata will benefit from an update to structured data in the future. You can help indicate which tools will need attention:

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Structured Commons focus group update, December 11, 2017[edit]

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Later this week, a full newsletter will be distributed, but you are the first to receive an update on new requests for feedback.

Three requests for feedback
  1. We received many additions to the spreadsheet that collects important Commons and Wikidata tools. Thank you! Now, you can participate in a survey that helps us understand and prioritize which tools and functionalities are most important for the Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey runs until December 22. Here's some background.
  2. Help the team decide on better names for 'captions' and 'descriptions'. You can provide input until January 3, 2018.
  3. Help collect interesting Commons files, to prepare for the data modelling challenges ahead! Continuous input is welcome there.

Warmly, your community liaison SandraF (WMF) (talk)

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Why not join the Simple English Wikipedia?[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

I can honestly see why you’ve evaded your block so much, you keep reading the English Wikipedia, personally I would advise you not to do it (don't try to acquire free knowledge? Why?), I personally avoid reading the English Wikipedia like the plague, I did it a few weeks ago and I came across an article with so many errors, some sections were unsourced with easy to find sources, some templates didn’t manifest correctly because the wrong parameters were set, there was some hoax information that no one removed in years, and I realised that I had the urge to improve that article, so I quickly closed the tab and now that article (and many others) are still obsessively calling to me every day, so I just avoid reading the English Wikipedia unless I really have to because when you’re used to editing and improving the encyclopedia losing “the privilege” (as the English ArbCom called it) of editing the encyclopedia “anyone can edit” becomes too much, but as the Standard Offer essay was given to me I don't have much choice, blocks are wholly punitive, and so is yours, if you're blocked for uploading bad images then they should develop software to just prevent you from uploading them, the articles you created while evading your block had nothing to do with your block and that’s why I wanted the specialised blocking tools to be a thing, the world is losing quality content because editors are given the full ban hammer for issues could be isolated, and should be individually appealed. Anyhow, as difficult as it sounds (since Wikipedia pops up with every search ) I would advise you not read the English Wikipedia, and maybe even go to the Simple English Wikipedia to write those articles you made and import them after you’ve been unblocked. Honestly in my case I didn't even want to stay on the Dutch Wikipedia as long as I’m now, but because of my prior global lock (which some admins there claimed was a global ban because policies should only be selectively interpreted) I actually started translating a bit more articles than I initially wanted (also because the internal standard offer reads that if you don't do anything on other projects that that alone is a reason for rejection). That aside I’ve been wanting to go to English Wikisource for some time but I still have to finish off some things on Dutch Wikipedia, in your case I would advise you to go to the Simple English Wikipedia (where I actually also wanted to go, but I'm afraid that because I'm the only person to use a few sources such as Art-Hanoi or the University of California at Santa Barbara that I'll be seen as “a cross-wiki spammer” for actually citing content, so I chose not to), though I would have to warn you about Simple English Wikipedia’s one strike policy which is a non-sensical policy that anything that you give you let's say a 5 hour block would give you a first time indefinite block simply because you're blocked on the English Wikipedia (though other wiki's such as Dutch Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons that have policies that officially go against the one strike policy still have admin cultures that enforce them as such).

Is there a reason why you never went to the Simple English Wikipedia? I see that you’re affiliated with Wikimedia DC, are you employed by them or is your affiliation different? Because I saw that the autoblock of your block once disrupted a WikiConference USA. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 12:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'll be honest, I only appealed my global lock because of two specific reasons, Beetstra falsely accused me of being a spammer, and this edit which reverted content additions (against both global and local policies). If Beetstra never accused me of being a spammer I would've still been locked now and not appealed it, but it's the culture on all Wikimedia projects that educational content should be removed because of the author that bothers me, and honestly I feel really bad that the articles you created were speedy deleted rather than going through a regular request for deletion because I’m pretty sure that if “Banned contributor” would be the only given reason that very little content would actually be deleted solely on that basis alone, you have people who are here to build an encyclopedia, and you have people that are only here to revert and delete while rarely actually caring about content, and the latter group is exactly what's wrong here. Don't mention what wrongs they locally make on that local project because they would still call it “importing problems from other projects” either because the lack the capabilities to logically assess the situation, or because “assume bad faith” is simply the norm (though it's probably a combination of both). Just try joining Simple English Wikipedia, and make some content there, if you’re lucky some uninvolved editor will bring them to English Wikipedia too. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 12:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Structured Commons - Design feedback request: Multilingual Captions[edit]

Hello! You are receiving this message because you signed up for the the community focus group for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons.

The Structured Data on Commons team has a new design feedback request up for Multilingual Captions support in the Upload Wizard. Visit the page for more information about the potential designs. Discussion and feedback is welcome there.

On a personal note, you'll see me posting many of these communications going forward for the Structured Data project, as SandraF transitions into working on the GLAM side of things for Structured Data on Commons full time. For the past six months she's been splitting time between the two roles (GLAM and Community Liaison). I'm looking forward to working with you all again. Thank you, happy editing. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply


yes, user:Bus_stop, [1] you have stumbled upon some unpleasant history, that does not make common sense. but as you see, the "son of betacommand" minds are made up. for an essay, see also User:Slowking4/All knowledge versus free culture - by now i have more edits than these admins, like this one, but their idea of collaboration remains dictation. fresh start is proven a lie. Slowking4 (talk) 00:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

I just want to say that I appreciate the work done by "Sudowoodoo". That is an impressive list of productive work done. I think credit is due. Bus stop (talk) 01:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
i'm no saint, but the methods for adding art content are repeatable by newbies. we will see more at art + feminism shortly. the fair use images of dead people is a small work flow, they deleted 60 out of 259 [2], and there are over 500 in use now, along with over 1000 photos of living people. the more good work they delete, the less credibility they have. so it goes. Slowking4 (talk) 01:38, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
Images are indispensable for gaining a familiarity with what has transpired in the world of art. There are arguments against inclusion of images such as copyright arguments, restricting the use of "Fair use", and there are also arguments about bandwidth and the capacity of small devices to load and display a multitude of detailed images, but I think art education requires the liberal use of images of works of art. The verbal counterpart is inadequate to convey knowledge of works of art. Bus stop (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
i'm with you there, and video too. but this website is hobbled by the verbal veterans who would rather write a thousand words, and be precautionary about image licenses. it is a generational divide. if we are not careful, a fork will come along and add rich media content, better than everpedia. and the next generation will leave us behind. Slowking4 (talk) 02:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
A problem may be that the visual arts have not been properly thought about. For instance there are no distinct guidelines for notability concerning works of art, so deletion discussions for works of art fall back on the more general requirement for commentary in reliable sources. This often means incorrect, misleading, self-serving, meandering musings on the work of art that may have little to do with the work of art. Works of art are generally nonverbal. Yet works of art serve as a jumping off point for tall tales that the commentator wishes to tell. This is interpretation, and I don't mean to fault those who take a stab at "interpreting" works of art. It should be noted that it is not just any work of art that is most likely to be subject to this sort of treatment but those works of art that have already achieved some prominence that are most likely to be subject to this type of interpretive scrutiny. The "prominence" often derives from the art gallery or museum in which the work is shown. But you can't use the argument that the setting in which it is shown suggests notability because as we all know, notability is not inherited. And it works vice versa. An art gallery does not derive notability from a constant and long term flow of important exhibitions of artworks because—you guessed it—notability is not inherited. This frustrating arrangement spills over into discussions about the inclusion of images in articles. Currently a heavy emphasis is on verbal commentary relating to the work of art. But that verbal commentary is often ludicrously irrelevant. People writing art commentary often have their own agendas that they wish to promote and the artwork that they are talking about simply gives them an opportunity to expand on their pet philosophical project. But that's their prerogative. I don't fault them. And I think that is to the credit of the work of art—that it generates such a flow of words. There is good quality art commentary but it is the rare exception. The bottom line concerning works of art is that often little can be said about them. They are stubbornly nonverbal. I'm not saying there should be no standards pertaining to works of art but that there should be different standards. Bus stop (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
yeah, i had this discussion with Stierch. (i.e. w:River Horse (sculpture)) we do not trust the culture to come to a reasonable art notability criteria, so we fall back on GNG, which privileges established institutions that can print their own reliable sources, such as the MET. (Met Open Access Artworks Challenge) with whinging about the non-notable items. w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caftan (Metropolitan Museum of Art) - the culture seems to resist the normal art history article, or curator's exposition, since most references are behind paywalls, and in print, i.e. w:Hotel Lobby. we will try again to engage expert editors at art + feminism, but do not have an expert to write the vital art articles. tried some talk page engagement at w:The Greek Slave but it took 5 years. Slowking4 (talk) 00:00, 11 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
and when the sock of betacommand is removing fair use images from w:Arts on the Line it frames the dispute. [3]. Slowking4 (talk) 11:25, 12 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
Slowking4—why not resolve this? Get your account unblocked. It is uncomfortable. I know. I've been through it. I remember dreading having to apologize, but according to Standard offer "[a]pologies aren't necessary, just basic courtesy..." The administrator Beetstra is referencing "Standard offer" in the thread "Tangential discussion" at WP:AN. I'm not sure what a next step might be. If I can help in any way please let me know, and if all else fails we can team up to vandalize Wikipedia. (Just kidding.) Bus stop (talk) 14:23, 12 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
i have no confidence whatever in the words of this admin; do not waste your breath; fresh start is proven a lie. "I don't remember the incident,... the only appropriate responses are "I'll be much more careful" "- funny, i do not take dictation; i do not see a reasonable standard of practice, but rather straw men of un-scanned newspapers, and moving the goalpost. they want to stop fair use uploads, and will do anything to reach that goal - by hounding and block if necessary. it is governance by dictation and essay, not consensus and law. Slowking4 (talk) 12:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
I just wanted to help. I don't know much about the larger case. I have my own feelings on many topics, including imagery in articles on artworks and schools of art or art movements and the place of articles on individual works of art on Wikipedia. I think you did good work in that area. Bus stop (talk) 16:47, 14 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
one way to help is get 600 edits and vote in the Stewards/Elections 2018, and then w:Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2017. they need a hostile takeover. Slowking4 (talk) 02:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data feedback - What gets stored where (Ontology)[edit]


There is a new feedback request for Structured Data on Commons (link for messages posted to Commons: , regarding what metadata from a file gets stored where. Your participation is appreciated.

Happy editing to you. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

S v G[edit]

hey, User:Sander.v.Ginkel, do not interact with the trolls, they are not here to collaborate. email me. Slowking4 (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
hey, User:Trackinfo don't get mad, get even. userfy them all, and create from the wonderful list of world class athletes. Slowking4 (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)Reply


hey User:Donald Trung. i should have warned you, do not vote against the trolls and their star chamber; they are vindictive. and yes - maybe you are too good for english wikipedia. you have some leadership skills, find another project such as wikidata. or a good GLAM institution in need of some digital humanities outreach. cheers. Slowking4 (talk) 03:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

First structured licensing conversation on Commons[edit]


The first conversation about structured copyright and licensing for Structured Data on Commons has been posted, please come by and participate. The discussion will be open through the end of the month (March). Thank you. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Multilingual captions testing is available[edit]


The early prototype for multilingual caption support is available for testing. More information on how to sign up to test is on Commons. Thanks, happy editing to you. - Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data feedback - multilingual captions on the file page[edit]


There are designs posted for viewing and using multilingual captions on the file page. Please take a look and leave your feedback as you have time. Thanks. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:18, 24 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June[edit]


There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Tuesday, 26 June from 18:00-19:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find more details, as well as date and time conversion, at the IRC Office Hours page on Meta.

Thanks, I look forward to seeing you there if you can make it. -- Keegan (talk) 20:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

What properties does Commons need?[edit]


Structured Commons will need properties to make statements about files. The development team is working on making the software ready to support properties; the question is, what properties does Commons need?

You can find more information and examples to help find properties in a workshop on Commons. Please participate and help fill in the list, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Timeless Newsletter • Issue 1[edit]

Newsletter • July 2018

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The news:

The Timeless grant has been selected for funding, and the project is now underway!

While I've had a somewhat slow start working on the project for health reasons, I'm pleased to announce that everything described in the proposal is now either happening, or on its way to happening.

Current progress:

  • The project now has a hub on Meta to serve as a directory for the various related pages, workboards, and local discussions and help pages. It's probably incomplete, especially with regards to specific language projects that might have local pages for Timeless, so if you know of others, please add them!
  • Outreach: I've been talking to various people and groups directly about skinning, desktop/mobile interfaces, project management, specific component support, and other things, and have begun to compile a very shoddy list of skinning problems and random issues on based on this. Some of this may inform the direction of this project, or possibly this project will result in building a more proper list that can then be used for other things. We shall see.
  • Some development - task triage, code review, bug fixing, and various rabbit holes involving ...overflows.

General plan for the future:

  • Triage the rest of the workboard.
  • Catch up with all the talkpages and other bug reports that have been left various other places that are not the project workboard
  • Do all the bug fixes/features/other things!
  • Some proposals aimed at Commons and Wikisource in particular (maybe, we'll see)

Essentially, the grant as written shall be carried out. This was the plan, and remains the plan. Timelines remain fuzzy, but while there have been some initial delays, I don't particularly expect the timeline for project as a whole to change a whole lot.

Also, for anyone at Wikimania right now: I am also at Wikimania. Come talk to me in person!

Thank you all for your interest and support thus far!

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your comments in the proposal I made in the Inspire campaign. Your time and input is appreciated. If you have any other suggestions, please let me know. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data feedback - Depicts statements draft requirements[edit]


A slide presentation of the draft requirements for depicts statements on file pages is up on Commons. Please visit this page on Commons to review the slides and discuss the draft. Thank you, see you on the talk page. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data feedback - structured licensing and copyright[edit]

Mockups of structured licensing and copyright statements on file pages are posted. Please have a look over the examples and leave your feedback on the talk page. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Sign-up for Whose Knowledge? on-line newsletter[edit]

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New discussion on Commons talk:Structured data[edit]

Hello. I've started a new, important discussion about creating properties for Commons on Wikidata. Please come join in, if the process is something that interests you or if you can help. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - upcoming changes to viewing old file page revisions[edit]

How old revisions of file pages work are likely going to have to change for structured data. There is information about the change on the SDC hub talk page, please read it over and leave feedback if you have any. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - IRC office hours today, 4 October[edit]

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Commons today, 4 October 2018, from 17:00-18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find date/time conversion, as well as a link to join the chat in your browser if needed, on the IRC Office hours page on Meta. I look forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - search prototype[edit]

There is a search prototype for structured data on Commons available. Please visit the search prototype page on the structured data hub for information on testing and feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:07, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

The Community Wishlist Survey[edit]


You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - IRC office hour today, 1 November[edit]

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Commons today, 1 October 2018, from 17:00-18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find date/time conversion, as well as a link to join the chat in your browser if needed, on the IRC Office hours page on Meta. I realize this may be short notice for some people; I am experimenting with advanced notice times to see what works best for the most people, I'll be giving more warning before the next office hour. I look forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - IRC office hour today, 1 November[edit]

The above message says 1 October in the body when it should say 1 November, as the subject line says. Apologies for making a new section by mass message, it's the only way to get this out quickly. See you in twenty minutes! -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - copyright and licensing statements[edit]

I've posted a second round of designs for modeling copyright and licensing in structured data. These redesigns are based off the feedback received in the first round of designs, and the development team is looking for more discussion. These designs are extremely important for the Commons community to review, as they deal with how copyright and licensing is translated from templates into structured form. I look forward to seeing you over there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Wikisource/Improve export of electronic books[edit]

Hello. Thanks for supporting this request. I noticed that you added your vote before the voting period. Now, there is a special button Support for recording a vote. If you could take a few minute to enter a new vote Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Wikisource, it would be appreciated very much. Thank you for your support. --Viticulum (talk) 20:25, 19 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

First World Congress of Jewish Wome[edit]

User:SusunW; user:Rosiestep; User:GreenMeansGo -- i was going to say, it looks like secretary meeting minutes, written by the 2 secretaries, one in German and one in English. would not think prepared speeches by others are included verbatim unless credited, which i did not see.
Anitta Müller-Cohen (1890–1962) [4]; [5]

Elinor Sachs Barr, died March 24 1990 - Barnard College 1917 - ALUMNAE MAGAZINE / SUMMER 1990 [6] -- Slowking4 (talk) 19:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Good point. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Wouldn't that still be derivative of the speech given, even if it's an imperfect replication? GMGtalk 19:44, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
yes, but it appears they are summarizing speeches rather than trying to steno-graphically report the exact wording. (it is the same issue with close paraphrasing, which it does not appear to me) also matters if the speech is written and prepared, or extemporaneous. see also Copyright of Political Speeches. (for US law.) Slowking4 (talk) 19:58, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Multilingual captions beta testing[edit]

The Structured Data on Commons team has begun beta testing of the first feature, multilingual file captions, and all community members are invited to test it out. Captions is based on designs discussed with the community[7][8] and the team is looking forward to hearing about testing. If all goes well during testing, captions will be turned on for Commons around the second week of January, 2019.

Multilingual captions are plain text fields that provide brief, easily translatable details of a file in a way that is easy to create, edit, and curate. Captions are added during the upload process using the UploadWizard, or they can be added directly on any file page on Commons. Adding captions in multiple languages is a simple process that requires only a few steps.

The details:

  • There is a help page available on how to use multilingual file captions.
  • Testing will take place on Beta Commons. If you don’t yet have an account set up there, you’ll need one.
  • Beta Commons is a testbed, and not configured exactly like the real Commons site, so expect to see some discrepancies with user interface (UI) elements like search.
  • Structured Data introduces the potential for many important page changes to happen at once, which could flood the recent changes list. Because of this, Enhanced Recent Changes is enabled as it currently is at Commons, but with some UI changes.
  • Feedback and commentary on the file caption functionality are welcome and encouraged on the discussion page for this post.
  • Some testing has already taken place and the team are aware of some issues. A list of known issues can be seen below.
  • If you discover a bug/issue that is not covered in the known issues, please file a ticket on Phabricator and tag it with the “Multimedia” tag. Use this link to file a new task already tagged with "Multimedia."

Known issues:


-- Keegan (WMF) (talk), for the Structured Data on Commons Team 20:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)[edit]

Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 November or Thursday, 10 November 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

  1. Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
  2. Test out using captions on Beta Commons.
  3. Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have anything you'd like to say prior to release.

Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a link to join, are on Meta.

Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the IRC office hour on Thursday. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - development update, March 2019[edit]

This text is also posted on the Structured Data hub talk page. You can reply there with questions, comments, or concerns.

A development update for the current work by the Structured Data on Commons team:

After the release of multilingual file captions, work began on getting depicts and other statements ready for release. These were originally scheduled for release in February and into March, however there are currently two major blockers to finishing this work (T215642, T217157). We will know more next week about when depicts and statements can likely be ready for testing and then release; until then I've tentatively updated the release schedule.

Once the depicts feature is ready for testing, it will take place in two stages on TestCommons. The first is checking the very basics; is the design comfortable, how does the simple workflow of adding/editing/removing statements work, and building up help and process pages from there. The second part is a more detailed test of depicts and other statements, checking the edge-case examples of using the features, bugs that did not come up during simple testing, etc. Additionally we'll be looking with the community for bugs in interaction with bots, gadgets, and other scripts once the features are live on Commons. Please let me know if you're interesting in helping test and fix these bugs if they show up upon release, it is really hard to find them in a test environment or, in some cases, bugs won't show up in a testing environment at all.

One new thing is definitely coming within the next few weeks, pending testing: the ability to search for captions. This is done using the inlabel keyword in search strings, and will be the first step in helping users find content that is specifically structured data. I'll post a notice when that feature is live and ready for use.

Thanks, let me know if you have questions about these plans. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - early depicts testing[edit]

The Structured Data on Commons development team has the very basic version of depicts statements available for early testing on Test-Commons. You can add very basic depicts statements to the file page by going into the new “Structured Data” tab located below the "Open in Media Viewer button." You can use the Latest Files link in the left side nav bar to select existing images, or use the UploadWizard to upload new ones to test with (although those images won’t actually show up on the site). The test site is not a fully functional replica of Commons, so there may be some overall problems in using the site, but you should be able to get a general idea of what using the feature is like.

Early next week I will call for broad, community-wide testing of the feature similar to what we did for Captions, with instructions for testing, known bugs, and a dedicated space to discuss the feature as well as a simple help page for using statements. Until then, you're welcome to post on the SDC talk page with what you might find while testing depicts.

Thanks in advance for trying it out, you'll be hearing more from me next week. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

User reporting system consultation[edit]


You are receiving this message because you have previously created or commented on an idea related to reporting harassment; and may have an interested in giving feedback about a new initiative to develop a user reporting system.

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The success of this project depends on collecting ideas and feedback from people in a variety of different roles in the Wikimedia movement. To this end, there will be a multi-phased consultation where you can participate in ways that you find most comfortable.

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There's another report which is also listing your name, please see here Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_some_accounts.--AldnonymousBicara? 15:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

see also Steward_requests/Global/2019-04#Global_lock_for_Slowking4 and c:Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections#Indefblock_for_Slowking4_(review) if at first they do not succeed, try again. the vindictiveness is instructive. this case will test the use of tools by stewards. you should expect over reaching to assert bitey behavior, and silence dissent of bitey behavior. Slowking4 (talk) 15:39, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

By the way, why Jeff_G. tried to “kill” your account Wikimedia-wide? I suspect some special incident involving you both, in the past. You can email me if the knowledge shall not be public. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

given my tangling with banned admins, i wouldn't be surprised if he was one. there is a cadre of editors who have an expert knowledge of venues, and they behave there (spinning up drama) like admins. and the banned ones are vindictive like this. they seem to be fanatics about freedom,. in this case it would require multiple accounts over a decade. i'm no kevin gorman, so may remain a mystery. pretty soon, the only editors will be socks. (here would be another one User:Pppery) "exit voice or loyalty" redux. Slowking4 (talk) 13:36, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
I have little idea which banned admins you refer to – Russavia and IN▄▄▄▄█▄y, perhaps? And how indeed are these guys related to Jeff and his protector(s)? As for “a cadre of editors who have an expert knowledge of” blah-blah-blah, not a valuable observation for me – my experience here is no less than yours. There are many different editors, but few users in good standing harass vulnerable Wikimedians on Meta-wiki. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
it is a small group, you left off betacommand and fram. yeah, sorry for the generalities, i'm not much interested in researching diffs. there are others in my group who are more interested in the drama. i'm too busy getting work done on wikidata. yeah that action by this editor was a tell, but i'm not that vulnerable. if i stumble on something i will let you know. Slowking4 (talk) 03:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - testing qualifiers for depicts[edit]

As you might have seen, testing is underway for adding qualifiers to depicts statements. If you have not left feedback already, the Structured Data on Commons development team is very interested in hearing about your experience using qualifiers on the file page and in the UploadWizard. To get started you can visit Test-Commons and chose a random file to test out, or upload your own file to try out the UploadWizard. Questions, comments, and concerns can be left on the Structured data talk page and the team will address them as best as they can. Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hours this week, 18 July[edit]

The Structured Data team is hosting an IRC office hour this week on Thursday, 18 July, from 17:00-18:00 UTC. Joining information as well as date and time conversion is available on Meta. Potential topics for discussion are the testing of "other statements", properties that may need to be created for Commons on Wikidata soon, plans for the rest of SDC development, or whatever you might want to discuss. The development team looks forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - testing other statements[edit]

You can now test using other statements for structured data on the file page on Test-Commons. Some datatypes are not yet available, such a coordinates, but further support will be extended soon. You can find more information about testing on the SDC talk page. The team looks forward to your feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging[edit]

The development team is starting work on one of the last planned features for SDC v1.0, a lightweight tool to suggest depicts tags for images. I've published a project page for it, please have a look. I plan to share this page with everyone on Commons much more broadly in the coming days. The tool has been carefully designed to try to not increase any workload on Commons volunteers; for starters, it will be opt-in for auto-confirmed users only and will not generate any sort of backlog here on Commons. Additionally, the tool is highly privacy-minded for the contributors and publicly-minded for the third party being used, in this case Google. The implementation and usage notes contain more information about these and other potential concerns as a starting place. It's really important that the tool is implemented properly from the start, so feedback is welcome. Questions, comments, concerns are welcome on the talk page and I will get answers as quickly as possible as things come up. On the talk page you can also sign up to make sure you're a part of the feedback for designs and prototype testing. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - modeling data[edit]

As you may have seen, there are community discussions underway on how to best model structured data on Commons.

Direct links to pages created so far:

Please visit and participate in topics you might be interested in when you get some time. Thanks. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging designs[edit]

I've published a design consultation for the computer-aided tagging tool. Please look over the page and participate on the talk page. If you haven't read over the project page, it might be helpful to do so first. The tool will hopefully be ready by the end of this month (October 2019), so timely feedback is important. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Community Wishlist Survey 2020[edit]


You are getting this message because you've previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey, in either the Wikisource or Wiktionary categories. I wanted to let you know that this year's survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until November 11. Unlike previous years, we are only accepting proposals for non-Wikipedia content projects with no dedicated teams (i.e., Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews). You can learn more on the survey page.

You can vote on proposals from November 20 to December 2. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won't send out a separate reminder to you about that. We look forward to your participation. Thank you! IFried (WMF) (talk) 18:52, 22 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for butting in here. I am just wondering if I will get a similar invitation? Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 19:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
you would have to wish upon a star. it is an annual thing, that actually produced some good over at wikisource, among the vast sea of denial. Slowking4 (talk) 20:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for responding. I checked my meta contributions and my talkpage and it appears I have participated in the 2015, 2016, and 2017 wishlist surveys and I have to give the wmf-employee who invited me to participate in the 2018 survey credit, because at that point I already had an enwiki blackmark painted on. I guess I will have to remember to check your talkpage again around October of this year for this years wishlist survey. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 23:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
you could just watchlist the Community Wishlist Survey, or Community Wishlist Survey 2021. the talk notifications do nothing for me; talk is a ghost town; i'm following on social media, where the community conversation is. cheers. Slowking4 (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Withdrawal of the Wiki Droits Humains Grant application[edit]

Hi Slowking4. Thank you for endorsing WDH grant application. Due to the covid19, I decided to withdraw it for the moment (the budget mostly aimed to organize offline events we aren'ty able to organise yet with this crise), until we are in a better position and situation to make it happen. We will still have some few activities online. We will let you know the follow-ups on the project page Wiki Droits Humains on wikipédia fr. Thank you again for your support. --Tonpseudo (talk) 08:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Commons - Media Search[edit]


The Structured Data team is working on an alternative, image-focused prototype for media search on Commons. The prototype uses categories, structured data as well as wikitext from Commons, and Wikidata to find its results. The development team would like your feedback on the prototype, as they are looking to work to further enhance the search experience on Commons. If you have a moment, please look over the project page set up on Commons to find a link to the prototype and leave your feedback on the talk page. Thanks for your time, I'll be posting message similar to this one to other pages on Commons. The team is looking forward to reading what you think. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

appropriate response[edit]

User:Yair rand: "The appropriate response to getting banned on your home wiki is not to spend years criticizing it in every place that will still let you in. (That goes similarly for the banned sockpuppeteers who went to the mailing list to praise the UCoC." [9]

you do not have a consensus here for your thesis of appropriate response;
i have over 100000 edits on two wikis, how many do you have? your thesis of home wiki is original research;
i have not spent years criticizing it every place. rather i have summarized the widespread outside criticism in the appropriate forums, based on reliable sources. the vast majority of my edits are in article space, unlike your edits;
this is a project that anyone can edit, not one where only those you will let in can;
i rarely use the mailing list as that well has been poisoned, but that does not mean you can censor voices you do not want to hear there. Slowking4 (talk) 20:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Discussion on the Brand Project[edit]

Hi Slowking4,

I will contact you as you have registered as a member of WikiDonne User Group. As you may know, these days we are discussing the Brand Project of the Wikimedia movement, a naming and design system that concerns the Wikimedia movement, the affiliates (user group, chapters and thematic organizations) and WMF. One group discussion has been launched on Meta, another on WikiDonne project discussion page in Italian Wikipedia and a call is scheduled on Saturday 27 June at 17.30 (CEST). I invite you to take part in the discussions and express your opinion. A summary of the discussions and feedback will be grouped in the survey that will be sent to the Brand Project team and will represent the response/position of the WikiDonne user group to this issue. Thanks and see you soon, - Camelia (talk) 14:06, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Loves the Olympics 2020[edit]

Hello Slowking4. First of all thank you for your interest and participation in Wiki Loves the Olympics. In order to promote the creation or translation of articles of sufficient length and quality, we decided not to rate pages based on lists (which translates into a lot of bytes because of templates) and templates. I have seen that you leave many fields in the infobox blank, which translates into unnecessary bytes. I encourage you, therefore, to not include the empty fields from now and to translate those bytes into useful content. Thank you for your understanding. Best, --Rodelar (talk) 10:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Invitation to affiliate members to complete a survey about WMF wide Universal Code of Conduct[edit]

Hello; My name is Mervat, and I am helping the Trust and Safety team to reach out to affiliates in order to discuss the Universal Code of Conduct.  

There has been talks about the need for a global set of conduct rules in different communities over time, and finally, Wikimedia Foundation Board announced a Community Culture Statement, enacting new standards to address harassment and promote inclusivity across projects.Since the universal code of conduct that will be a binding minimum set of standards across all Wikimedia projects, will apply to all of us, staff and volunteers alike, all around the globe, and will impact our work as groups, individuals and projects, it’s of great importance that we all participate in expressing our opinions and thoughts about UCoC, its nature, what we think it should cover or include and what it shouldn’t include; how it may develop, drawback or help our groups.   This is the time to talk about it. As you are a valuable contributor to the Wikimedia movement, your voice counts. Before starting to draft the code of conduct, we would like to hear from you; We invite you to devote some minutes to take this survey; your answers will help us create a safer environment for all on Wikimedia: 

It’s possible that you are a member of more than one affiliate; hence you may receive this survey more than once, and you may have participated previously in the discussions or filled out a previous survey during the first round of consultations about UCoC which targeted wikipedia/wikimedia communities. We apologize for this; it is really difficult to identify if a wikimedian belongs to multiple groups that work to spread free knowledge. Looking forward to your thoughts and opinions and hoping that you can respond within the next 2 weeks.  If you have any questions about the surveys or difficulties accessing the link, please contact me by email ( will be considered during the drafting process for the UCoCThank you for your participation

Mervat SalmanTrust & Safety (Policy) FacilitatorWikimedia Foundation "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment." --Mervat (WMF) (talk) 16:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Invitation to complete a survey regarding WPWP Campaign[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

Many thanks for participating in the WPWP campaign.

We are excited about the level of participation, this year and we are happy to inform you that over 90,000 articles were improved with photos in 272 languages Wikipedia.

We'd love to get your feedback. Your feedback will allow us to better meet your expectations for the campaign in the next editions.

Please complete a brief survey so that we may learn about your participation in the campaign, strengths, challenges and your expectations. This information will enable us to improve the next editions of the Campaign.

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Commons - Media Sarch, new feedback round[edit]


I'm following up on a message from earlier in the year about the prototype development for Special:MediaSearch. Based on community feedback, the Structured Data team has developed some new features for Special:MediaSearch and are seeking another round of comments and discussions about the tool. Commons:Structured_data/Media_search is updated with details about the new features plus some other development information, and feedback is welcome on Commons talk:Structured_data/Media_search. Media Search works in any language, so the team would especially appreciate input around support for languages other than English. I look forward to reading about what you think. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Global ban RFC for Slowking4[edit]

There is a global ban RFC for Slowking4 at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4.--GZWDer (talk) 03:30, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thank you ~[edit]

It's probably because I just spent a good hot minute stressed and upset about the Salsman thing, but for whatever reason this put tears in my eyes made me start to cry. Like, you are a really good wikifriend slowking. I really don't deserve your kindness tbh, but the least I can do is tell you that it's very much appreciated. –MJLTalk 05:25, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Shoot, I'm crying now. Oof. –MJLTalk 05:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
we used to collect some lunch money for sandwiches and coffee, but in these remote days, we can still fund some swag to send, and gift certificates. it's never enough to compensate the volunteers, but the thought counts. let me know where to send a check. Slowking4 (talk) 12:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
User:MJL yeah, utmost sympathy for the Salsman thing, it is the insistent amateurism, that does not play nice with others. a better proposal would be to adopt the ODNB model - subscriptions from UK libraries, + online links to all articles with some freemium to encourage subscriptions - given Scottish Language Dictionaries started on an app (2017) [10] maybe some private collaboration could be possible, to use them as a reference, but it would require a diplomatic approach. cheers. Slowking4 (talk) 01:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'm still working on trying to get a model define page up for people to work from. I know we can't use the dictionary as an automated reference without permission, but I was still thinking we can use one or two entries as a reference. –MJLTalk 17:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
yeah, no rush - we had some success on english, mining the public domain EB1911, and DNB. if there were Scots PD texts, we could transcribe them and either cut and paste them or use as citations. we have a category for existing works here [11] & [12] -- Slowking4 (talk) 00:56, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Invitation to participate in Universal Code of Conduct survey - WikiWomen's User Group[edit]

(You are receiving this message as you signed your interest to participate as part of the WikiWomen's User Group)

Hello, my name is Mervat Salman, a UCoC Facilitator, Trust and Safety team.

As you know, the WMF Board of Trustees ratified the Universal Code of Conduct early in February. That's the beginning; the policy itself cannot be used if the enforcement pathways are not defined. The implementation and enforcement of the UCoC requires the continuous cooperation to define clear definitions of enforcement pathways and processes. This needs to be done in a way that does not contradict with the internal bylaws and codes of conduct currently in place, but rather to support them and complement their deficiencies, if any.

In this phase of the process, we would like to invite you to share your ideas, thoughts and concerns about the UCoC implementation, reporting and enforcement pathways using this survey:

Notice: This survey will be conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data-handling, see the survey privacy statement <>.

Should you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact

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Mervat (WMF) 17:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Join Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2021[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

Many thanks for participating in the maiden edition of Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos in 2020.

We are glad to inform you that the 2021 edition starts today (1st of July). You are invited to participate in the campaign again this year to help improve the quality of Wikipedia articles with photos. For more information, please visit the campaign page here.

If you have any questions or query please feel free to contact anyone from the Organizing Team of WPWP Campaign.

Kind regards,
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Communication Manager, WPWP Campaign
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Commons unblock request[edit]

Hi, I'd like to see the next Commons unblock request succeed. Looking at the decline in November last year, it would be helpful if this meta subpage were deleted, which you can do using {{delete}}. Though blocks are not run "by consensus", this appears to be the rationale to decline, so no doubt someone would raise it again as an issue, and quietly removing it in advance would take this off the table.

Honestly, this type of research is best done off-wiki anyway. Thanks -- (talk) 14:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

as you are no doubt well aware, a list of links is never considered a personal attack, or even group attack. and the rationale of censoring off commons speech is ugly, and reflects poorly on the commons "community". you assume it is a good faith rationale, and i have no such delusions. inevitably, they will create yet more rationales that have nothing to do with the block policy. --Slowking4 (talk) 00:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

#WPWPCampaign2021: Learning and evaluation[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

Many thanks for participating in the WPWP campaign.

We are glad about the level of participation, this year and we are excited to inform you that over 900 volunteers around the world added photos to more than 250,000 articles in 298 languages Wikipedia. This year, we surpassed the 2020 edition's milestone by over 170%.

We are in the process of evaluating the WPWP campaign this year and we need your help. We'd love to get your feedback. Your feedback will allow us to better meet your expectations for the campaign in the next editions.

Please complete a brief survey so that we may learn about your participation in the campaign, strengths, challenges and your expectations. This information will enable us to improve the next editions of the Campaign.

Follow this link to the Survey:

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The day local autonomy died[edit]

User:Donald Trung. local autonomy was overrated. we already see functionaries exporting their blocks and bans to multiple wikis based on their vendettas. and the summary use of global lock is now normalized without any requesting, reporting, or tracking on meta. but yes, it is yet another attempt to solve a cultural problem with technical tools. soft is hard, and culture eats technology for breakfast. we will see if WMF uses UCoC reports of tool abuse will result in sanctions. the functionaries in the whinging at project talk, certainly think it is a possibility. cheers. --Slowking4 (talk) 21:25, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Slowking! Just stopped by to say hello, this caught my eye. It feels like we should have a log for global locks that includes an explanation in at least the language of the active wikis... –SJ talk  16:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
well there was a lock request process on meta. but recently, some functionaries were just locking without notice, and ignoring the local block process. they appear to have stopped for the moment. but it is unclear what the log, or documentation of functionary action is. it is part of a general trend of summary action, or tool use without documentation or accountability. --Slowking4 (talk) 16:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Whose Knowledge? Drop-in July 2022 invitation[edit]

Whose Knowledge? logo

Over the next 2 weeks, we want to invite Whose Knowledge? User Group members to a community conversation about the upcoming Board of Trustees election. We’re also testing these drop-ins as a great way to be in touch, and establish periodic check-ins with our community.

There will be 2 informal drop-in sessions on different days and times. Please come to the session that works best for you:

  • Drop-in 1: Thursday, July 7, 2022 - 12pm UTC
  • Drop-in 2: Monday, July 11, 2022 - 6pm UTC

To learn more, visit the event page. If you can't join us, but you are interested in the conversation, we’d be more than happy to hear from you on our Talk page!

Just a gentle disclaimer: You are getting this message because you have signed up as a member of Whose Knowledge? User Group. We will send invitations like this from time to time, but we promise not to burden your Talk page. Feel free to unsubscribe from the distribution list.

--Mariana Fossatti (WK?) (talk) 18:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Join Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2022[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

Thank you for participating in the Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos campaign last year.

We are glad to inform you that this year's edition started on 1 July, 2022. You are invited to participate in the campaign again to help improve the quality of Wikipedia articles with photos and contextual images. For more information about the campaign and how to participate, please visit the campaign page here.

If you have any questions or query please feel free to contact the organizing team, leave a message at the campaign's talkpage or send an email to wpwpcampaign(_AT_)

Kind regards, --Ammarpad (talk) 21:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC) (On behalf of the Organizing Team, WPWP Campaign 2022).Reply

Thanks for supporting Auckland Museum's Alliance funding application[edit]

Hi there, I wanted to send a note of thanks for your support of Auckland Museum's successful Alliance fund application "Understanding our past:using Wikipedia as a tool to support local history in Tāmaki Makaurau". The strong support from editors greatly strengthened our application and we're looking forward to collaborating with the community in the new year to implement the project. Best wishes, James (Auckland Museum) Jetaynz (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Go higher up if you wish[edit]

You, I mean that yourself was indeffed on wikicommons and enwp. While it is not me who request a block for RespectCE on wikicommons. In fact, RespectCE reported another established user on that project, got boomeranged against themselves, got blocked and then locked for cross-wiki abuse. They also tried to canvass on Hibrew Wikipedia, making forged accusation against Wikibayer and me after main account got unlocked, you tried to turn blind eyes on it, didn't you?

If you believe I violated Ucoc or ToS, just please go higher up, reported to WMF Office or anywhere if you wish. I'm ready for all investigation against myself, what about you or RCE ?Stop trolling against me now and then. Have a nice time and happy editing.--Lemonaka (talk) 07:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ah, yeah, I saw you said you need links. Here's the links you like.
First a bunch of links including that you are the one hounding others, FWIW User:Slowking4/abusive admin behavior on wikicommons ‎ and User:Slowking4/english wikipedia has cancer ‎, making PA against sysops who blocked you or sth like that.
Second a bunch of links what RCE done on wikicommon,Check contribution of RCE, while named Plane... on commons:Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_100#Disgusting_slurs_from_user_upset_over_copyright. If you do not dig deep, please refrain from criticizing or accusing me. Lemonaka (talk) 07:20, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
thanks for the ad hominem. when i get thank yous from board members, it puts your brickbats in the proper context. when you resurrect years old disputes of betacommand, and railroad a block on commons to manufacture a global lock, just like betacommand, then reasonable people might conclude you are betacommand. how is the rule by drama working for you? i'm having fun writing an encyclopedia. those lists of links are not personal attacks, they are evidence of abusive misconduct of functionaries at those projects. a list of links is never a personal attack. given the failure of functionaries to deal with abuse of process by betacommand, and now arabic admins, i don't have any confidence in "higher ups". happily, i don't need any higher ups to do the digital humanities, despite the toxic culture speed bump. --Slowking4 (talk) 15:38, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Interesting, I suggest that you want to accuse me of sock puppet of betacommand? Are you really sure? This is nothing about RCE now, it's about who is really step out of the line, right? I have never resurrect years old disputes of betacommand, I don't know what you are talking about. If you don't have faith in higher ups, just as I don't have faith in a project that can revert stewards' action to protect a sock-master sysop, let's solve it here or anywhere if you wish.
I have told you that I didn't report RCE on Wikicommon, his own behaviour got himself block, then locked as cross-wiki abuse. To make it clear, it has nothing to do with me, block was made by sysop on commons, lock was endorsed by steward.
Yeah, accusing others as sockpuppet is the easiest way to smear others. Previously you told me that you need diffs for accusing, then what about your diffs? Lemonaka (talk) 07:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Join Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2023[edit]

Hello Slowking4,

Thank you for participating in the previous editions of Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos campaign.

We are glad to inform you that this year's edition started on 1 July, 2023. You are invited to participate in the campaign again to help improve the quality of Wikipedia articles with photos. For more information about the campaign and how to participate, please visit the campaign page here.

If you have any question or need more information, please either contact the organizing team, leave a message at the campaign's discussion page or send an email to wpwpcampaign(_AT_)

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Invitation to participate in the photo contest Unpacking Body Plurality in Sports 2023[edit]

English Dear Slowking4,

We’re excited to share with you our first-ever art and photo contest for this year’s #VisibleWikiWomen, on Unpacking Body Plurality in Sports!

We’re inviting submissions of photos, illustrations, and other forms of art depicting womxn and non-binary people in sports — as athletes, fans, cheerleaders, referees, journalists, and much more. Our #VisibleWikiWomxn contest celebrates the bodies of womxn in sports by centering their voices, images, stories, and experiences in all their diversity, plurality, and glory.

You can find all the information on our landing page: Unpacking Body Plurality in Sports

Spanish Hola Slowking4,

Queremos invitarte a participar de nuestro primer concurso de arte y fotografía "Cuerpos plurales en el deporte" en el marco de la campaña #VisibleWikiWomen de este año.

Estamos convocando a presentar fotos, ilustraciones y otras formas de arte que representen a mujeres y personas no binarias en el deporte - atletas, personas aficionadas, animadoras, árbitras, periodistas y personas ligadas al deporte en todos los aspectos. Nuestro concurso #VisibleWikiWomxn celebra los cuerpos de las mujeres en el deporte centrándose en sus voces, imágenes, historias y experiencias en toda su diversidad, pluralidad y gloria.

Puedes encontrar toda la información en la página del concurso.

Portuguese Olá Slowking4,

Ficamos felizes em convidar você a participar de nossa primeira Wiki-competição de arte e fotografia, como parte da campanha #VisibleWikiWomen deste ano, sobre "Corpos plurais no esporte"!

Estamos recebendo fotos, ilustrações, e outras formas de arte que retratem mulheres e pessoas não-binárias nos esportes — como atletas, torcedoras, juízas, jornalistas, e muito mais. Nossa competição #VisibleWikiWomxn celebra os corpors de mulheres e pessoas não-binárias e coloca ao centro suas vozes, imagens, histórias, e experiências em toda sua pluralidade e glória.

Você pode encontrar todas as informações necessárias em nossa página: Unpacking Body Plurality in Sports.

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Global ban proposal notification[edit]

Hello. This is to notify you that there is a proposal proposing that you be globally banned from all Wikimedia projects. You are invited to participate at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4 (2). Thank you. Seawolf35 (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply