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Revision as of 16:31, 28 October 2018
- Proposed additions
- Please provide evidence of spamming on several wikis. Spam that only affects a single project should go to that project's local blacklist. Exceptions include malicious domains and URL redirector/shortener services. Please follow this format. Please check back after submitting your report, there could be questions regarding your request.
- Proposed removals
- Please check our list of requests which repeatedly get declined. Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their value in support of our projects. Please consider whether requesting whitelisting on a specific wiki for a specific use is more appropriate - that is very often the case.
- Other discussion
- Troubleshooting and problems - If there is an error in the blacklist (i.e. a regex error) which is causing problems, please raise the issue here.
- Discussion - Meta-discussion concerning the operation of the blacklist and related pages, and communication among the spam blacklist team.
- #wikimedia-external-linksconnect - Real-time IRC chat for co-ordination of activities related to maintenance of the blacklist.
- Whitelists
There is no global whitelist, so if you are seeking a whitelisting of a url at a wiki then please address such matters via use of the respectiveMediawiki talk:Spam-whitelistpage at that wiki, and you should consider the use of the template {{edit protected}} or its local equivalent to get attention to your edit.
Please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment. This leaves a signature and timestamp so conversations are easier to follow.
Completed requests are marked as {{added}}/{{removed}} or {{declined}}, and are generally archived quickly. Additions and removals are logged · current log 2024/05.
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Proposed additions
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This section is for proposing that a website be blacklisted; add new entries at the bottom of the section, using the basic URL so that there is no link (example.com, not http://www.example.com). Provide links demonstrating widespread spamming by multiple users on multiple wikis. Completed requests will be marked as {{added}} or {{declined}} and archived. |
spambot regexes (Oct 1)
- Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bglamour\.de/content/search/ - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bmartindale\.com/Results.aspx\? - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bchange\.org/search\?q - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\brealitysandwich\.com/\?s - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bmy3uka\.com/search/ - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bdailymail\.co\.uk/home/search\.html\? - Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\btelegraph\.co\.uk/search
checked and tested — billinghurst sDrewth 10:08, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Added to Spam blacklist. -- — billinghurst sDrewth 10:08, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
hdorg.ru
hdorg.ru
- Spam-bot target. -- Tegel (Talk) 19:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Tegel: Added to Spam blacklist. --Tegel (Talk) 19:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
sci-hub
sci-hub.tw
sci-hub.mu
sci-hub.se
sci-hub.is
scihub22266oqcxt.onion
sci-hub.tech
sci-hub.hk
sci-hub.la
sci-hub.mn
sci-hub.name
sci-hub.tv
sci-hub.nu
sci-hub.org
sci-hub.cc
sci-hub.ac
sci-hub.io
sci-hub.bz
sci-hub.ga
And many others. Per discussion on en.wikipedia (User:DMacks, User:JzG), this is a largely copyright violating site, where all links are replaceable with non-copyright violating material (the originals). On en.wikipedia now
- Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\bsci-hub\.
has been blacklisted. On en.wikipedia, JzG suggested this to be meta-blacklisted (to which I agree per en:WP:COPYLINK), hence discussion here. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 13:09, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Also @Galobtter and Anachronist:. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 13:53, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. Sci-Hub jumps from one TLD to another (bz, cc, ac, and now tw), so blacklisting sci-hub.* (any TLD) would be appropriate globally, not just on en-wiki. Anachronist (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Commons has a few dozen links, and they involve various different TLDs as copyright lawsuits force them to keep jumping. Global blacklist sounds good. DMacks (talk) 16:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Biochemlife and Anahit.19: adding broader users. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:06, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
80.82.77.83
80.82.77.84
Also these IPs may need to be blacklisted. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 08:37, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- 100% support. Good faith users are adding links that invoke contributory infringement, and some bad faith users are in denial about the fact that this site's activities are illegal in most jurisdictions around the world. It's a nightmare, and policing this across all languages is tedious. JzG (talk) 23:15, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
regex for sci-hub
- Regex requested to be blacklisted:
\.sci-hub\.
- Added to Spam blacklist. -- — billinghurst sDrewth 10:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
omn.kr
omn.kr
URL shortener. — regards, Revi 07:55, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Added to Spam blacklist. — regards, Revi 07:56, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
spiritualsadhana.com
spiritualsadhana.com
Astrologers ad site, that was spammed persistently since 2015 on en-Wikipedia, but also sometimes on te and ta Wikipedias. Various users are blocked, others only warned. PaleoNeonate (talk) 21:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- @PaleoNeonate: Added to Spam blacklist. -- — billinghurst sDrewth 11:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
dtf.ru
dtf.ru
Possible irreliable source, wiki website or blog. Anyone can add his own post and edit it. Globally (in all wikis) invalidate is requested. HanzoHanzo (talk) 11:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment There is allowed use at some wikis, and it is not banned at any wikis. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:51, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
tadamun.info
tadamun.info
Can this be added: http://www.tadamun.info - because a yellow and blue, colorful link at the bottom of this page leads to porn.
the eloquent peasant (talk) 01:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Proposed additions (Bot reported)
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This section is for domains which have been added to multiple wikis as observed by a bot.
These are automated reports, please check the records and the link thoroughly, it may report good links! For some more info, see Spam blacklist/Help#COIBot_reports. Reports will automatically be archived by the bot when they get stale (less than 5 links reported, which have not been edited in the last 7 days, and where the last editor is COIBot).
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COIBot
The LinkWatchers report domains meeting the following criteria:
- When a user mainly adds this link, and the link has not been used too much, and this user adds the link to more than 2 wikis
- When a user mainly adds links on one server, and links on the server have not been used too much, and this user adds the links to more than 2 wikis
- If ALL links are added by IPs, and the link is added to more than 1 wiki
- If a small range of IPs have a preference for this link (but it may also have been added by other users), and the link is added to more than 1 wiki.
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Proposed removals
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This section is for proposing that a website be unlisted; please add new entries at the bottom of the section.
Remember to provide the specific domain blacklisted, links to the articles they are used in or useful to, and arguments in favour of unlisting. Completed requests will be marked as See also recurring requests for repeatedly propo sed (and refused) removals. Notes:
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genetherapynet.com
genetherapynet.com
I tried adding this and found it was blacklisted here. It seems that someone with a COI to that site and others was spamming it on articles cross wiki. As far as I can tell the editor has not been here for quite a long time (see here, this and Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2011-02). Was wondering if it could be removed. Not sure about the other websites that were blacklisted at the same time as I have not explored them. Aircorn (talk) 06:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Aircorn: it was being spammed in 2011. A removal needs more than "I want to add it", it usually needs firm reasoning about why it is usable at the sites. You can always ask about whitelisting at w:en:mediawiki talk:spam-whitelist — billinghurst sDrewth 09:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- It is quite hard to find sites that explain genetic engineering and are user friendly. It would make my editing life a little bit easier if I could use it as a reference, but it is not a site I would regularly use as there are much better (although less accessable) resources out there. I figured that since it was (as far as I could tell) only blacklisted due to spamming a long time ago then it would be relatively easy to unblacklist once that was no longer an issue. I will look at whitelisting if I really need it. Thanks for the response. Aircorn (talk) 09:44, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thecompany.pl
thecompany.pl
I am asking you to consider removing this site from the blacklist. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kocury (talk)
- @Kocury: You will need to make a stronger case than "please remove this site". Why should it be removed? What is the value of the site to the wikis, especially the Wikipedias? How are you proposing to use the link? etc. It has been blacklisted, and was done for a reason at the time. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:57, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
- This is the homepage of the free project that deals with the conversion of games from the Commodore Amiga computer to a Windows. I would like to add this address to the polish page about "Amiga". https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga - I wrote to Polish wikipedia moderators, but they wrote that I should write a request here to remove site from global blacklist filter. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kocury (talk)
- That community has the ability to whitelist if they believe that it is a viable website. No one is commenting that they think that the site if valuable, and it is one that is spammed, and I am not seeing a case presented that there is clear value to remove the link, and that we will avoid the issues that have previously occurred. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- I see that my request is too big to give a "second chance" for this site. I did not know it was such a problem - I'm going back to the Polish administrators/moderators, *SIGH* :) Kocury 14:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- It is not about it being too big. We have it being spammed, and managed as a spammer. You have requested its removal, and there wass no evidence of community support for two weeks, nor evidence that it is not going to be spammed again. You want it at one site, so apply there. If you think that there is broader support, then where is it, can you point me to a local discussion elsewhere? I should remove it for use on all sites solely on your say so? — billinghurst sDrewth 11:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I see that my request is too big to give a "second chance" for this site. I did not know it was such a problem - I'm going back to the Polish administrators/moderators, *SIGH* :) Kocury 14:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- That community has the ability to whitelist if they believe that it is a viable website. No one is commenting that they think that the site if valuable, and it is one that is spammed, and I am not seeing a case presented that there is clear value to remove the link, and that we will avoid the issues that have previously occurred. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- This is the homepage of the free project that deals with the conversion of games from the Commodore Amiga computer to a Windows. I would like to add this address to the polish page about "Amiga". https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga - I wrote to Polish wikipedia moderators, but they wrote that I should write a request here to remove site from global blacklist filter. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kocury (talk)
I apologize for the late response. I prefer to ask you to remove the page from the global filter, because making exceptions as you can see is more onerous. I believe that the site should not be responsible for spam, only the person who spammed it. It's probably not the point that the website owner would be responsible for spammers? I would like to remove the page from the global filter,, but what evidence should I present, I have no idea - I'm giving up :) The site has been functioning for 10 years, it allows legal playing games from the Commodore Amiga computer without knowledge of the emulator, I thought that it is just worth adding it at least to the Polish side, so that the article was more complete :)
Here's the discussion from History:
- https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Pro%C5%9Bby_do_administrator%C3%B3w&oldid=54096818
- https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dyskusja_MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist&oldid=54005870
(the discussion was finally removed without a reason)
There are more, but I have trouble searching. If I have not convinced you, maybe in a few years someone more important than me will ask you to add a page :) — Kocury 20:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Kocury: this has nothing to do with your importance, but with the mitigation of spam. This is not an appropriate use of external links on many wikis (not on en.wikipedia only), I even doubt it is a proper use of external links on pl.wikipedia (see this link removal of this link). Wikipedia (in most languages, if not all languages) is not a platform for this type of links. That is why it got reverted, and that is why it got blacklisted globally. It is likely why it got ignored on pl.
- Regarding the user being responsible, yes, they are. And if that user persists in adding these links (as happened here), then the only way to point that user to said responsibility is to blacklist. We are not here to play whack-a-mole, we are here to build an encyclopedia, and the blacklist is there to protect damage to the Wikipedia.
- Hence,
Declined. That link is not a suitable external link on most wikis, if people want to play Amiga games through a website, then they can use Google to find such pages. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 06:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
youtu.be
youtu.be
The all inclusive *.be filter is blocking YouTube short links (youtu.be) from being used. This also includes wikis not in the Wikipedia network. I am asking that youtu.be itself be allowed while still filtering the rest of *.be. Thank you. Alexia E. Smith (talk) 19:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- Additional information: This affects over 2,000 wikis and would require manually editing every MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist on those wikis along with continual new wikis to maintain this exception. Trying to explain to non-technical users on how to transform the shortened URL into the full URL every instance this issue comes up is time consuming especially when it is the preferred URL presented to end users by the YouTube service when requesting a sharing URL. I see that in the past this request has been denied multiple times with those proposing it bringing up the same issue; attempting to get non-technical users to transform the URL. This spam blacklist affects not just Wikimedia projects, but thousands of external projects as well. The argument of blacklisting certain videos on YouTube can be solved by expanding the regex to also include (youtu\.be|youtube\com) in the regex. Alexia E. Smith (talk) 15:52, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Alexia E. Smith: It is not a .be rule, this is a specific youtu.be-rule. That rule is added for a reason.
- Although I agree that the regexes could be expanded, that same story as your initial story applies - that needs to be clear to the maintainers for all wikis (at least within the MediaWiki realm). There is still a significant amount of material on youtube that simply should not be added for copyright reasons (and that often tends to be the material that is linked, much of the material where there is no copyright concern simply never will get linked as it is not applicable to Wikipedia), or is otherwise discouraged to be linked here.
- I don't think that anything outside of the 800+ MediaWiki wikis is going to be a direct reason for us to remove rules. One could consider to expand in the installation documentation or in the example-whitelist of the installation to specifically whitelist domains when used on external installations. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 12:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Alexia E. Smith: sorry, broke the ping. --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 13:01, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Beetstra: (Ping doesn't seem to ping me anyway.) If Extension:SpamBlacklist had a simple way to set a setting to globally whitelist a domain this would not be an issue. For me to whitelist this domain I will need to automate a solution to whitelist it on 2,126 wikis and also apply that to any new wikis that are created on a daily basis. The other solution would be to fork Extension:SpamBlacklist to have a setting that would allow a PHP setting based whitelist. However, I am trying to avoid forking the MediaWiki core more than necessary. I figured it was better to appeal here than to go with the less desirable options first. Alexia E. Smith (talk) 15:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Alexia E. Smith: as I said, the list here is mainly to protect mediawiki projects. I don’t think we should delist here for outside projects. Did you consider running a cross wiki bot on your wikis? —Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 16:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Beetstra: (Ping doesn't seem to ping me anyway.) If Extension:SpamBlacklist had a simple way to set a setting to globally whitelist a domain this would not be an issue. For me to whitelist this domain I will need to automate a solution to whitelist it on 2,126 wikis and also apply that to any new wikis that are created on a daily basis. The other solution would be to fork Extension:SpamBlacklist to have a setting that would allow a PHP setting based whitelist. However, I am trying to avoid forking the MediaWiki core more than necessary. I figured it was better to appeal here than to go with the less desirable options first. Alexia E. Smith (talk) 15:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Troubleshooting and problems
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xyznepal.com
xyznepal.com
This is a simple travel related blog their are nothing spamming so i want to unblock this site on Wikipedia please help