Wikimedia Forum

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
(Redirected from Forum)
Jump to: navigation, search
← Discussion pages Wikimedia Forums Archives →
QA icon clr.svg

The Wikimedia Forum is a central place for questions and discussions about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects. (For discussion about the Meta wiki, see Meta:Babel.)
This is not the place to make technical queries regarding the MediaWiki software; please ask such questions at the MediaWiki support desk; technical questions about Wikimedia wikis, however, can be placed on Tech page.

You can reply to a topic by clicking the "[edit]" link beside that section, or you can start a new discussion.
Wikimedia Meta-Wiki
This box: view · talk · edit

De-Recognition of Wikimedia Hong Kong[edit]

This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Translations are available.

Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission.

The principal Wikimedia movement affiliate in the Hong Kong region is Wikimedia Hong Kong, a Wikimedia chapter recognized in 2008. As a result of Wikimedia Hong Kong’s long-standing non-compliance with reporting requirements, the Wikimedia Foundation and the Affiliations Committee have determined that Wikimedia Hong Kong’s status as a Wikimedia chapter will not be renewed after February 1, 2017.

If you have questions about what this means for the community members in your region or language areas, we have put together a basic FAQ. We also invite you to visit the main Wikimedia movement affiliates page for more information on currently active movement affiliates and more information on the Wikimedia movement affiliates system.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, 16:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 20:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:43, 9 March 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[edit]

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

Wikimedia-logo black.svg

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

  • April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
  • April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
  • April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
  • May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
  • May 15–19 – Board vote checking
  • May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

  • Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
    • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
  • Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
    • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections(at)

On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 03:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

User page[edit]

Hello, Can we create a user page without it appearing in all others Wikimedia projects? Thanks! --Ghybu (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, if you put the content inside of <noinclude> tags, content will be shown only on Meta. Read more at mw:Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage#Controlling_what_content_is_displayed. Stryn (talk) 16:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
however, FYI, this will make "blue" your username on local wikis, even if accessing your page users will not see the content of your meta userpage. --XXN (talk) 14:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that is the problem, the name becomes "blue" and a blank page appears with a link to Meta (View on (talk) 10:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
See also phab:T90849 and phab:T90015. XXN (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
@Ghybu: The answer is no. Things to note. 1) you can wrap part of a page in <noinclude> to not show xwiki; have a non-wrapped solution that is global; and have a component wrapped in <includeonly> which will only show on xwiki pages (as it is actually a xwiki transclusion). I wonder why you wouldn't want a global user page, or why it is problematic.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: It is possible that some users don't want to appear on the projects (or languages) that they haven't contributed to and they simply want to create a page only for Meta. This is not something really important but may be a useful option (only meta) :) Thanks for the answers ! --Ghybu (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
It has been explained that it is not possible under the current design. If you don't believe that the present solution is suitable, then it will take a phabricator: ticket.

The conversation that could follow is that this is metawiki which is specifically the WMF's communities coordinating wiki, it is not a local content wiki, so what you are doing here is pertinent to all communities. That is clearly a conversation that can be had here, and you will need a stronger argument about your desire versus the communities' requirements.  — billinghurst sDrewth 20:49, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Ah, I haven't seen initially, a patch resolving this problem was merged into MW core, but the documentation pages were not updated and this has created confusions. The __NOGLOBAL__ magic word is now available, which if present on the central (meta) user page, will prevent it from being displayed on remote wikis. CC Ghybu. --XXN (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks XXN, it works. Perhaps we should think of adding it here?--Ghybu (talk) 21:39, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Added, just before you hit the button "Publish changes" for your post :) --XXN (talk) 22:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Which process for administrators tool access ?[edit]

Hi, I'm seaching and not finding the place on meta for posting administrator candidature. Is there some one to guide me ? Lionel Scheepmans Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 14:54, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

I think you're looking for Steward_requests/Permissions. Stryn (talk) 15:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
@Lionel Scheepmans: hi, to request administrative access here at Meta go to Meta:Requests for adminship, to request administrative access at any other wiki with no local bureaucrats you should make your request at Steward requests/Permissions after getting community consensus at the considered wiki. Regards.--Syum90 (talk) 15:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks ! Lionel Scheepmans Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 16:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Recognition of contributions in Wikimedia.[edit]

How does Wikimedia rate test projects in incubator and the procedures for it to be approved. Also, are there ways in Wikimedia to advertise a test project or seek contributions in it?

The Language Committee does evaluate the status of a test project upon request and approves it in case it meets the criteria outlined in the Language proposal policy. --Vogone (talk) 07:06, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Uzoma Ozurumba, do you plan to start a new test wiki or you have a test wiki in mind that you like to work on? If you have a knowledge of a particular language which currently has a test wiki on incubator, you are welcomed to contribute to it. As Vognne rightfully said, it would be approved by the the Language Committee if it meets the criteria stated here. Regards. Wikicology (talk) 08:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Wikicology, I have a test wiki in incubator wt/ig already, it is just 3 weeks old. Thanks.--Uzoma Ozurumba (talk) 12:40, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2017)[edit]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:


  • Gale – Biography In Context database added
  • Adam Matthew – all 53 databases now available

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, EBSCO, Taylor & Francis and

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 18:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Aaron.
This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

Voting has begun in 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[edit]

19:14, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


I posted this initially on english wikipedia, but seems like this is a more appropriate place for it. Essentially, I feel the Wikipedia logo a bit dated, and wanted to see if anyone else feels likewise. I reached out to a member of WMF to see if this is even possible and have yet to hear back, so any feedback would be appreciated! Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 23:09, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

I love our logo. It is widely recognized. What changes are you thinking of? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
+1 to the Doc. What's wrong with the well established and fine looking logo? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 09:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
First off, hi Doc! Glad to see ya over here. So from a technical point of view, its very "busy" and difficult to discern from a distance which are qualifications for a good logo. Walk across the room and look at the Wikipedia logo vs. Wikimania. I know everyone loves it, even I do, but I think it can be improved upon. Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 18:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
It's an iconic logo, extremely well-known and even part of the Wikipedia Monument. I don't see a need to change it. Gestumblindi (talk) 21:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
When will "visibility from a distance" ever be an issue? We're a website, not a drive-in; by definition the only time people will see the logo is when they're using the screen on which it's displayed.Iridescent (talk) 22:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
It's to simulate people with poor eyesight. A gaussian blur being another method. Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 22:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
User:Nohat has a redesign ready to go with a number of improvements. Its quite an improvement from the Original winning logo from the international logo contest.

In seriousness, What you're describing sound a lot like Wikipedia Redefined and inside the foundation have been some redesigns. Many people redesigning tend to removing or crippling functionality, like removing language links (WMF did this due to low usage). Dispenser (talk) 18:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Drewmutt, What is broken or needs fixing? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Why do you think it needs changing? "A bit dated" is a feature, not a bug; the Wikipedia "incomplete globe" is one of the most recognised logos in the world. The fact that it's so ubiquitous you're getting bored of its appearance is proof that the existing design is working. Iridescent (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback, I really enjoyed the Wikipedia Redefined proposal, but it sounds like it didn't get much traction, which I feel is unfortunate. I get a lot of this in inherently subjective, so I'll stick to technical requirements. Firstly, it's generally agreed upon that a logo should scale down (seen from far away) and still be distinguishable. I made an example page to compare this quality between the globe and the Wikimania logo. I believe it's quite obvious which is more identifiable. This seem particularly important because of the "accessibility" Wikipedia is trying to accomplish. Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 22:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Раздельный бан[edit]

<с русскоязычной Википедии меня перенаправили с этим вопросом сюда>

Считаю очень важным сделать блокировку раздельной: блокировку на редактирование страниц обсуждения и блокировку на редактирование страниц статей. Ведь если человек не брезгует послать кого-нибудь на 3 буквы или ещё что, то это совершенно не означает, что участник вандал, ровно как и наоборот. Я считаю верхом абсурда ситуацию, когда я после очередного конфликта с википедийными аборигенами не имею возможности поставить в статью недостающий пробел, знак препинания, поправить орфографическую ошибку, проставить шаблон или добавить актуальную информацию. Несмотря на мою богатую историю блокировок за всякие смешные вещи, кот. некоторые по ошибке интерпретируют как оскорбления, ко мне ни разу не были применены блокировки по причине вандализма, а потому считаю крайне необходимым отделить мух от котлет. Как я понимаю, технические возможности для этого имеются. Nad.Chel (talk) 10:53, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Википедия это проект основанный на сотрудничестве. Поэтому участник, который не может участвовать в осуждениях, не сможет нормально сотрудничать с другими участниками и, следовательно, не должен иметь возможность делать какие-либо правки в статьях. Ruslik (talk) 13:05, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Абсолютная и полная чушь. Для того чтобы править ошибки, проставлять шаблоны, добавлять информацию навык социальной адаптивности не требуется. Нужно лишь понимание того, по каким правилам живёт русский язык, как и где применяются те или иные шаблоны, как формулировать текст. Nad.Chel (talk) 09:50, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Лично я Symbol support vote.svg За. Полезная была бы вещь.--Арсений1 (talk) 18:14, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Ruslik, но ведь для редактирования не слишком конфликтных статей совершенно не нужно, например, участие в общих форумах (в руВики они находятся в пространстве Википедия:), достаточно основного пространства и его обсуждения; если участник постоянно пишет плохие шаблоны, это не значит, что он не сможет писать хорошие статьи; навязчивые просьбы о помощи в обсуждениях участников будут вполне уместны в обсуждениях статей и на форумах, и так далее, примеры можно приводить долго. Направил коллегу сюда именно я, ибо полагаю (возможно и ошибочно), что столь трудоёмкой работой, требующей написания отдельного расширения, для одного из разделов одного из проектов никто не станет заниматься, но идея о "раздельных блокировках", то есть фактически - о технической реализации topic ban на пространства имён, довольно любопытна и имеет шансы на поддержку всего сообщества Wikimedia в целом.--Фил Вечеровский (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Фил Вечеровский технически уже все давно реализуемо с помощью фильтров правок. Осталось всего ничего: уломать разработчиков, чтобы они подняли лимит количества условий. --Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 08:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Well-Informed Optimist, вот именно. И как ни уламывай, фильтр резиновым не станет, а дополнительные условия всё равно на тупых вандалов уйдут.--Фил Вечеровский (talk) 16:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Например в укрвики это реализуется таки фильтром, в рувики да, не получится. Тут два варианта, или участники смирно придерживаются топикбана (в конце концов обойти и фильтр можно, например зачастую переименовався ибо фильтры часто на ник завязаны, это не говоря об использовании виртуала). Или в принципе есть phab:T2674 об отдельных статьях, возможно можно предложеть и баны на целые пространства имён, но вот тот баг делают 13 лет уже как, не стоит надеятся что новое предложение выполнят быстро. --Base (talk) 18:14, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiSandy (Contextually Enhanced Search)[edit]

WikiSandy proposed project

Provide a Wikipedia search service that indexes Wikipedia data semantically, based on sentence structure; subject, subject complement, or direct object, etc. versus just key words. Recognize information that is not directly communicated by the author, by relating acronyms, abbreviations, and compound nouns to appropriate subject matter within an article. Results will be ordered and prioritized by the strength of the correlation of search term to the sentences returned. Results will provide full sentences where possible, with deep links to those sentences, making it possible for users to jump directly to those sentences of interest. Such a tool will improve the search experience within Wikipedia and increase the value of the Wikipedia data.

See a demo at The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sandypondfarm (talk • contribs) 17:15, 11 May 2017‎ (UTC) (UTC)

Old proposed project Wikichem[edit]

I found this proposed project, Wikichem, which has been proposed since 2014. This needs more attention and interested people to discuss Wikichem, the proposed project that would collect information about chemistry. Five users declared themselves interested in the project. Somehow, the page need to be fleshed out. --George Ho (talk) 06:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Trans editors[edit]

I recently held a Wikipedia-edit-a-thon on Art and Feminism in Victoria. I had a famous trans director reach out to me, who was unable to come to the edit-a-thon, but wanted help as their bio had been taken down several times. I was wondering if there were any trans-editors who are willing to help them out. The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShrummR (talk • contribs) 01:48, 13 May 2017‎ (UTC) (UTC)

ShrummR, if this is about English Wikipedia, I suppose you may reach out to one of the Wikipedians in w:en:Category:Transgender Wikipedians. --Base (talk) 18:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Is there a way to have a Meta page in multiple languages that appears in the 'In other languages' section?[edit]

Hi all

I would like to know if it is possible to know if there is a way to link different language versions of a page together so they are displayed in the 'In other languages' section? I want to try to do it this way specifically rather than (or as well as) having a language selection option at the top using the <nowiki></wiki> function.


--John Cummings (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2017 (UTC)


Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Categories of open and completed submissions for Wikimania 2017[edit]

I have been checking the pages of submissions ready for review and open submissions. I found inconsistencies of top and bottom templates in those pages. I have been changing the templates for consistency, but I found one tagged as withdrawn. Please I need your assistance on reviewing the pages tagged as open or completed submissions. Thank you. --George Ho (talk) 18:00, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)[edit]

21:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections[edit]

21:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

RfC on enabling two-factor verification for all users[edit]

There's an RfC on enabling two-factor verification (2FA) for all users across all Wikimedia projects. Please vote and comment! --Rezonansowy (talk) 13:34, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, this is about expanding two-factor verification functionality access to all users. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:44, 29 May 2017 (UTC)