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This is the discussion page for the IdeaLab. Got feedback/suggestions about the Lab? Share them here! Need help turning your ideas into plans, or your drafts into grant proposals? Add a new topic and ask us!

IdeaLab (re)Launch[edit]

Congratulations on the (re)Launch! The new design is fascinating, and I love the icons. Thanks for everyone who worked on this. --Haithams (talk) 19:47, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Date format[edit]

Could we use ISO 8601 (i. e. "YYYY-MM-DD") for dates, please? "11/12/13" makes my brain stumble :-). --Tim Landscheidt (talk) 20:41, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Agree the current format is too US-centric and that case makes my brain stumble too :) ISO 8601 feels a bit too far on the robotic end of the spectrum though. What if we used DD Month YYYY instead, as signatures do? (no idea how easy this is to implement, but I think it might be more familiar to the widest set of people if it wasn't too much trouble). Siko (WMF) (talk) 18:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Paging Jonathan Morgan! heather walls (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, please :) M/D/Y is only used by silly people ;-) Steven Zhang (talk) 13:42, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Just seeing this now. My pager must be on the fritz :) I can implement this, and it shouldn't take too much time. It's in my queue. Jtmorgan (talk) 18:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Eu quero fazer criação de uma página e esta sendo dificil alguém pode ensinar-me????? porfavor Kialunda Domingos (talk) 13:15, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Busy wikimedian, watchlist user[edit]

As a busy and active Wikimedian, I rely on my watchlist and pings to keep me informed, and sometimes I see things of interest in RecentChanges. I am finding that the construct of Grants:IdeaLab doesn't suit itself to easily watching developments here by that methodology, instead it requires visiting and eyeballing (a physical interactivity requirement). Is there a means that what is happening here could have "push" rather than just a "pull" type interaction. If this is not possible by watchlists, or an evident newsletter, could there be a means where users could transclude components for their user pages to track the happenings. If these things do exist, then they are not evident, and should be highlighted, maybe in a section for how the busy Wikimedian follows Grants. I know that this is somewhat selfish of me, however, if you can do that, it then waves at me, and can entice me in. Of course, my being opinionated, may lead to regrets. Face-smile.svg  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:03, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi billinghurst. Thanks for the feedback. Push notifications definitely aren't off the table for future IdeaLab development. We want to make it easier for more people to participate in the IdeaLab. What kinds of events are you currently missing out on, that you would like to be notified about? Also: could you say more about how the design of the IdeaLab doesn't facilitate watching pages? I want to make sure I understand where we're falling short. Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 20:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
I'd go along with this. I too am very watchlist-driven. It's part of a broader problem with watchlists, which are fine to track changes once an article exist, but don't help you knowing about the creation of a new article within a particular category (or using a particular template). Maybe there is something I can watch to find out, but I don't know about it. Kerry Raymond (talk) 00:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
@Kerry Raymond:, I'm totally happy to brainstorm options, but I'm still not sure I understand billinghurst's original point. I maintain the IdeaLab by monitoring my watchlist, and by using Special:RecentChagesLinked feeds. For example, here's a related changes feed for edits to IdeaLab ideas that I check regularly. When new ideas are created (added to that category), they show up in that feed; same with idea talk pages. So, what about the IdeaLab makes it hard to monitor? (BTW this is not just idle questioning: it's possible we may sometime have resources to make useful technological improvements to the IdeaLab, and I want to be ready with a list of priorities if/when that happens!). Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
I am not sure I can speak for User:billinghurst. But to me, it sounds like the big difference is that you know how to do it and I don't (and I don't think I am the least technologically literate person on Wikipedia). I don't see new articles being created on my watchlist unless I have watched an existing redlink (which presupposes I know what the article will be called). I don't know how to configure my watchlist to contain RecentChanges in the way you describe (does not appear in Preferences?). But that's a general comment. Speaking specifically about IdeaLab, I am not sure I would want to receive notification of every single little edit on IdeaLab via my watchlist (I'd be unable to keep up with checking through the volume of notifications each day I suspect). I'd probably prefer to just have an idealab email list where announcements of new ideas were posted and then I could watch just those I found interesting. That's how I became aware of some of the ideas as the proposer sent an email to either the gendergap mailing list or the research mailing list announcing their idea. Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
having to physically visit each specific feed page doesn't work for the casual observer. The current design of the page defeats the traditional watchlist system of New edit ... Visit. Your design only captures those truly active in the space. Disappointing.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:42, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Kerry Raymond I didn't know how Special:RecentChangesLinked worked until relatively recently either. The amount of 'hidden' functionality in our software kind of amazes me sometimes. Your suggestion (and billinghurst's) for push/email notifications, either to a mailing list or individually, is a great one. @Billinghurst: I'm sorry, I still don't understand your point completely. It sounds like you're saying that the IdeaLab is harder to watch than other portals/pages on wiki, and I don't see why that should be the case. Specifically the sentence "The current design of the page defeats the traditional watchlist system of New edit ... Visit." confuses me. Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 16:37, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jmorgan (WMF): just if you watchlist the obverse of this page it never physically changes as it inhales templates. So all the activity occurs on subpages, so Watchlist is ineffective. Compared with something like RFC where new subpages are manually added so trigger the watchlist.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah, now I understand. Thanks for clarifying. I'll note the feedback for future development plans. Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 15:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Question about sharing a grant proposal[edit]


I'm almost finished writing a grant application for a position as Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO, is IdeaLab the place I can share a proposal for wider community input when it's formatted to the PEG grant format already? I would very much like input from Wikiprojects and also chapters in terms of the content of the project and being able to register interest in participation.


Mrjohncummings (talk) 18:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

@Mrjohncummings: Since it's already formatted as a PEG, I would suggest submitting the request there. If you'd like to get community input before review, set the status to "DRAFT" in the infobox. Once you're ready for review, set the status to "OPEN". Hope that helps, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 18:34, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
@Jmorgan (WMF):, many thanks, I will do that :) --Mrjohncummings (talk) 18:59, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
For reference the application is here Grants:PEG/MrjohnCummings/UNESCO_Wikimedian_in_Residence Mrjohncummings (talk) 23:19, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Does endorsing mean paying for?[edit]

I just endorsed an Idea. Does that mean I have to fund it if it gets passed? I sure hope not. --Mr. Guye (talk) 00:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

No Mr. Guye, of course not :) This isn't Kickstarter. WMF grants will provide all the funding. You just get to give advice and enthusiasm. Cheers, Ocaasi (talk) 00:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Template confusing[edit]

@Jmorgan (WMF), Siko (WMF):, The edit intro to making and making an IEG says "Step 1. Update your infobox Change the infobox template at the top of the edit window {{IdeaLab/Idea/Infobox}} to the IEG infobox: {{IEG/Proposals/Infobox}}". However Inspire Grant ideas seem to not have {{IdeaLab/Idea/Infobox}}, but {{Probox}}, which seems to be a Lua-based template that is quite similar. However it does not seem to support the paramter "status=". So what is the actual final template you'd like on a proposal? {{IEG/Proposals/Infobox}}, or {{Probox}} or other? Maximilianklein (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey Maximilianklein We want to use the Probox template. Thanks for the heads-up--I'll update the editintro and make sure that Probox supports status= consistently. Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 18:45, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Ideas vs. grant requests[edit]

Someone linked an idea and from looking at the description I couldn't tell that it had been formally submitted as grant request. I only understood it was when I saw the rejection message on the talk page. I think the infobox and categories should be more explicit; I'm also not sure whether it's good to have grant requests for IEG scattered across multiple base pages based on their history (some are under Grants:IEG, some under Grants:IdeaLab, some who knows where). --Nemo 07:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I think they are only under Grants:IdeaLab and Grants:IEG (right?), but I agree that the contents of the Idealab are overdue for consolidation and clarification. Mjohnson (WMF) and AWang (WMF) have been moving the recently awarded Inspire grant pages to the IEG and PEG portals, respectively. But now is a good time to do some basic cleanup around the IdeaLab, make sure everything's categorized correctly, and move things that need moving. I'll follow up with the program officers later this week. Thanks for the nudge, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 18:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I also would like guidance on the future of IdeaLab. I like using IdeaLab as a space for proposing ideas which could use collaborators but for which grant funding will not be requested. It is troublesome for people to support ideas which are labeled as "grants" because people are more likely to collaborate when money is not involved.
I would like for IdeaLab and Grants:Learning patterns to move out of the grants space and into any other space, maybe a new "Ideas" space or maybe just "Meta:" space.
The grants space is not even listed at Help:Namespace. Is Grants: the only meta namespace which is not listed? Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Bluerasberry, glad you like using IdeaLab for ideas that don't need funding - that was always my hope! Agree that the Grants namespace can be confusing to some. We've looked into this a few times in the past, but getting a new namespace isn't all that easy and would introduce some complications into the backend systems (bot code, etc) that make IdeaLab go. We can keep looking into options, but until there is stronger justification to make this move happen relative to the effort it will require, I don't see it taking priority. Also, the Grants namespace has friendly space expectations now but it is unclear to me whether the meta community would support those extending to other namespaces...and we can't run an IdeaLab w/o a friendly space. Not sure about why the Grants namespace isn't listed or what else might be unlisted as well though, that seems like something that should just be fixed? Cheers, Siko (WMF) (talk) 16:23, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Siko (WMF) I commented at Grants_talk:Friendly_space_expectations#Strange_theory_about_where_this_applies - I would be keen on applying uniform civility expectations everywhere. I am sorry about what happened with Inspire but if you are suggesting that in the grants namespace there is selective policing against broader meta policy then something seems odd about that. I would like for meta to remain a community space in general. There are many options for keeping peace and engaging the community.
Instead of making a new namespace I would like to see the grants namespace renamed to "ideas". Most of the grants namespace is occupied by content unrelated to grants, so already there is a problem because super-users know to use it in ways unrelated to grants but casual users can only see it as the place to post "grants".
You set the priorities and you know the backend. Good luck - it must be difficult. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Is there a template for ideas that are now happening[edit]


Is there a nice looking template or something that can be added to the top of the page to show that the idea has now been turned into a real thing?


Mrjohncummings (talk) 15:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Not currently. But you could do something like...
IdeaLab beaker and flask.svg Arbitrary text here
Status:    In progress

Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jmorgan (WMF), it would be really nice to have a good looking template or maybe just something in the infobox, it would also help with metrics to be easily able to look how many pages in the Ideaslab have come to fruition. Mrjohncummings (talk) 07:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Love this idea, John. We'll be doing another upgrade sprint on the IdeaLab at some point and will keep this suggestion in mind! @I JethroBT (WMF): let's add this to the wishlist. Siko (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

False starts?[edit]

I have a grant proposal where I've budgeted in some co-funding, and we may have time to start early on the project. Would it be considered bad form to start some of the work ahead of time? --Unhammer (talk) 17:20, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Unhammer - it isn't bad form to start early, but we can't guarantee funding at this point. So I suppose the main risk is you'd get started with the partial funding you already have, and if the IEG committee doesn't end up recommending your proposal for funding, you may not be able to complete the task if it relies on WMF funding as well. As long as you're aware of that risk, I don't see a blocker to doing some early work with support from another funder though. Hope that makes sense! Copying @Mjohnson (WMF): to track this going forward. Siko (WMF) (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, that sounds good, thanks for clearing it up :) --Unhammer (talk) 18:05, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The first time I liked the central notice banner[edit]

During my recent visit to plwiki I got the IdeaLab banner about the article curation. Maybe because it wasn't visually different from the typical message boxes, maybe because the text was in italics, maybe because it was left-aligned - I have actually read it and it was the first Central Notice banner that didn't annoy me. Congratulations, good job!  « Saper // talk »  19:50, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Saper! I did my best to try to keep things simple with the language and the choice of image representing the campaign; I'll keep in mind your point about left-alignment as well. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 22:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


how a global community could be established to promote common sense? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Manzoor khan 1 (talk) 10:06, 3 June 2016‎

I would like to persue FootNort49 (talk) 05:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I would like to persue a number of grant applications relating to rectifying injustices and thereby exposing them. I envisage public support and contributions to the causes. Since I have started this however I have had had continuous interference on the net. I have spent years collecting information. Currently I am not receiving emails. This has been happening since the start of this. Justice Equality and Democracy are my agenda. I would appreciate some help urgently. Although I have a perfect score on my psych assessment about 4 years ago there have been efforts to discredit me. As I have a Diploma in Psychology and other noteable but unaccredited qualifications attesting to my intelligence which is 168 Weschler scale (post stroke).

 have friends that are qualified in MH who will supply character references for me.

I am currently working with a Samsung Galaxy S3 solely and this along with the interference I seem to be having is extremely problematic. Time is of the essense for me as an election looms. I will need considerable assistance to achieve the outcome that I have been working toward. My apologies if this reply is not what you were looking for but I started on the question section of this and it disappeared. There is also an unavoidable grammar area in here also. I am an urgent case writer for Amnesty International so I am aware of the necessity for articulate writing skills in issues such as this.I FootNort49 (talk) 06:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Campaign reiteration[edit]

I was surprised to hear that we're having yet another brainstorming session aka "inspire campaign" to collect funding ideas, mostly because I thought the first round was still ongoing as I had not heard anything about its results. I now took the time to review the projects, which I understand were put under the undescriptive name of Category:IdeaLab/Ideas/Proposal/Selected, and I conclude there are 3 kinds of funded requests:

  1. the proposer vanished,
  2. meetups/courses/editathons of various kinds (single or in smalls series), usually with a little editing attached,
  3. bigger content-related work.

Most of the projects fall under (2), for which there is no need to brainstorm as they are quite standard; you could just circulate a reinforced call for funding requests for small events. As for (3), only the most classic project (funded academic research) seems to have significant results. Nemo 14:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Rapid Grant request eliminates the "Join" button?[edit]

Could someone please look into this tech/usability concern? - Thekohser (talk) 14:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Would it be better if I rolled-back to the "Idea" stage, and wait to go for Rapid Grant only until after the project team is assembled? - Thekohser (talk) 15:32, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
@Thekohser: Thanks for pointing this out-- didn't realize these buttons were missing when preparing those proboxes on the side for Rapid Grants, but I've gone ahead and added them back in. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Jethro. So, do you think I should un-roll back to the Rapid Grant phase of the page? - Thekohser (talk) 20:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC) Edit: Never mind, I just re-entered the Rapid Grant form content. I also found another glitch, a minor one that I reported to you on your Talk page. - Thekohser (talk) 20:15, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Add Opposition to the main page[edit]

As of now, it appears that at least on some grants opposition or concern is moved to the Talk page. This creates a totally imbalanced main article. For example consider the Real Names proposal: Reading just the main page will give you the impression that this idea is ready to go: it has collected some volunteers, some endorsements, great! If instead you look at its Talk page you will find the Opposition section, which has even more people than the Endorsement section voicing very strong opposition to the entire grant. Now, I get that discussion about the merits of a proposal, how to refine it, et cetera should be held on the Discussion page, but it would be much more fair and balanced to have the oppositions, which are the exact opposite of endorsements, on the main page. This would also prevent naive users from signing up as volunteers without considering the arguments against the proposed idea. --Doveofsymplegades (talk) 07:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, my IdeaLab proposal is proudly displaying an Oppose section on the main page of the proposal, because it is an excellent way to see the exclusionary and frightened reactions of Wikimedians who would rather not "waste" $40 per person to build knowledge of an area previously undiscovered. - Thekohser (talk) 15:57, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
The problem is that there's no policy on this as of now. Some Opposition sections are pushed into Discussion, some aren't. To prevent edit wards between the camps, we need a judgment on this from whoever is running the IdeaLab. --Doveofsymplegades (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree a idealab page policy/guideline regarding this kind of issue is needed to avoid problems or bias on controversial ideas that may have opposition or concern --WiZaRd SaiLoR (talk) 06:43, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I think the point of this sort of campaign is to pursue a bandwagon effect where some ideas will get enough traction to be able to burn some grant money. --Nemo 09:19, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Pinging User:I JethroBT (WMF): I think this needs to be discussed and resolved for the sake of clarity. What's your take on this? --Doveofsymplegades (talk) 10:10, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

See Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat#IdeaLab_and_staff_conduct for a centralized discussion. I'll be following up there later today. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 18:50, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
It was moved to Grants_talk:IdeaLab/Inspire/Meta#IdeaLab_and_staff_conduct The Quixotic Potato (talk) 15:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Real people[edit]

You lost my edit where is it? Please find it. In brief. Please check my edit of Prague Spring and let me know if you believe that my addition is relevant, interesting and amusing.

I firmly believe that ALL contributors should be real people and should have to prove themselves to be so to Wikipedia.

Wikipedia should be held accountable not only for the fair application of its Terms and Conditions but also to the laws that apply in the jurisdictions in which it operates (e.g. Slovak Constitution, European Convention on Human Rights).

All contributors that are not from REAL people and are clearly operatives of Governments or their Intelligence Agencies should be treated as hostile and their contributions and actions should be monitored closely.

If I am talking to Mojo Hand, please note that I have not made any edits to Prague Spring since our last exchange. I currently do not have any intention of making further changes to the article on Prague Spring.

My name is Stephen Fraser-Ward. I am a U.K. citizen and a permanent resident of the Slovak Republic.

Thank you for your kind attention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stephen Fraser-Ward. (talk) 16:13, 8 June 2016‎

I belive you are Wrong, please read the Wikimedia fundation Terms of use [1]. also as you mention wikipedia, you should read that acording to wikipedia
Jurisdiction and legality of content.
Publication of information found in Wikipedia may be in violation of the laws of the country or jurisdiction from where you are viewing this information. The Wikipedia database is stored on servers in the United States of America, and is maintained in reference to the protections afforded under local and federal law. Laws in your country or jurisdiction may not protect or allow the same kinds of speech or distribution. Wikipedia does not encourage the violation of any laws, and cannot be responsible for any violations of such laws, should you link to this domain or use, reproduce or republish the information contained herein.

Wikipedia. General disclaimer.

Also i see there is already a page on idealab that is related to one of the issues you mention, you can find it at Grants:IdeaLab/Real_Names
I hope that this info helps --WiZaRd SaiLoR (talk) 06:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Last updated[edit]

Just curious. The main page prominently features 2 sections that show up with "Last updated: 1 March 2015" and "3 March 2015." The markup is a jumble of templates that I can't navigate at the moment so I don't know what is being pulled. I am wondering why have this "last updated" section at all? Just to show it has been dead and inactive for over an year? This doesn't seem like something one should call attention to. Perhaps the staff can overhaul or update the main page? if not, at least remove the mention of when the page was last updated. Theo10011 (talk) 20:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Should be all set; the page just needed to be marked for translation to allow it to update. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Stem the flood of low/no quality proposals(?)[edit]

I've noticed that the number of very low quality proposals is substantial and seems to be on the increase. These proposals can be subdivided into:

  • those that consist of just a few sentences about some general idea, if even that
  • those that provide a rough description of some concept, but do not have any information on how this concept is going to be used
  • those that are entirely off-topic, i.e. have nothing to do with harassment
  • a combination of the above

Here the proposals that I would consider to be of (very) low quality from yesterday and today (based on "Last updated" date):

Proposal Problems
Grants:IdeaLab/CULKIT Just a few lines, foreign language, seems to be nonsense or off-topic
Grants:IdeaLab/improve_freedom_in_the_world Literally only has a title
Grants:IdeaLab/Contra_el_acoso Idem
Grants:IdeaLab/Alternative_To_Optimisms Idem
Grants:IdeaLab/Ideas_by_type Idem
Grants:IdeaLab/Rohit_Bhusal Off-topic nonsense
Grants:IdeaLab/Iptek_Membuat_dunia_semakin_Kacau Just a few lines, foreign language
Grants:IdeaLab/ДУАЛІЗМ_ВІКІПЕДІЇ._(Dualism_Wikipedia. Incoherent nonsense, just a title
Grants:IdeaLab/Evolve Very vague, just a few lines
Grants:IdeaLab/new_exchange_of_ideas Idem
Grants:IdeaLab/References_from_online_streaming_TV_Latest_news Idem, also off-topic
Grants:IdeaLab/Sustainable_Environment Off-topic, just a few lines
Grants:IdeaLab/Some_ideas_for_avoid_bullying_among_wikicolaborators Vague

I think it would be desirable to increase the signal to noise ratio some way. This would cut down on the number of proposals as well as needless discussions that are due to proposals being insufficiently fleshed out. In my opinion, the best way to do this is simply to inform the proposer somehow that he is expected to how given his proposal some proper thought, that it contains has concrete, actionable steps to implementing it, etc. We could also decide that we're okay with this amount of noise. Best regards, Doveofsymplegades (talk) 10:10, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Promotion and proxying[edit]

I'm currently blocked from the English Wikipedia. I know of a lot of good ways my coworkers could publicize our idea, things that I don't think have occurred to them. Am I allowed to tell them or would that be interpreted as block evasion or proxying? I am not topic-banned from any of the places I have in mind. ...our idea is actually for a noticeboard/help desk where editors could ask questions of this kind. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


Sory who can help me to criet one page on Wikipedia proget? Kialunda Domingos (talk) 13:16, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Here is the fastest way:
  1. Go to the Wikipedia project that you want (Spanish Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, Wiktonary, etc.)
  2. Type the title of the thing you want to create into the search bar.
  3. You should see a page saying "That doesn't currently exist; would you like to create it?" with either the title or the word "create" in red. (Example, when I try to create an ecyclopedia article called "Kialunda" on the English Wikipedia, I see this: [2])
  4. Click on red title or "create."
  5. This may take you to another page. On the English Wikipedia, it gives me the option of "Start the Kialunda article," which would let me add raw code, or "Use the Article Wizard," which would be more like filling in a form.
If you are making a new encyclopedia article, remember that it must be properly sourced and formatted, or other editors may delete it. Remember that not all Wikiprojects have the same rules. For practice, click on Your Sandbox, click where it says "edit this page" and mess around until you feel you have something presentable. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:33, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Meet whom?[edit]

I don't know how the "Meet me in the lab!" feature is selected, but I note that it is currently showing an entry dated March 2015 relating to Grants:IdeaLab/Fhocutt (WMF), whom I believe to have left the WMF some months ago [3]. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 20:12, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so. It is still showing me the same entry. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 19:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC) But it has changed now. Thanks. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 21:19, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

In vain[edit]

The side bar "recent activity" at Grants:IdeaLab/Ideas#idealab-new currently has a listing Rogol Domedonfors asked for participants to join this idea: A place to work together Last activity: 14 August 2016. This is not correct. My only involvement with this idea was to comment on its talk page. Why is this request being attributed to me in this way? Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 09:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Rogol Domedonfors I'm not sure. The activity feed runs off when particular categories are added to a page. In this case, the relevant category is Category:IdeaLab/Ideas/Participants. Sometimes the cat_add_date field in the database is updated when a page is touched (not just when it's edited). But that alone wouldn't explain this error. Probably has something to do with some decision/mistake I made years ago. More to the point, the GrantsBot code is old and I don't have much time to maintain anymore. However, I JethroBT (WMF) will likely begin maintaining it actively in the Fall. Pinging him so he can note the error. Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for that. Would somebody please either fix the code or stop the bot from attributing things to me that I have not said? Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 19:33, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

French translation of Grants:IdeaLab[edit]

Hello, i'm trying to translate IdeaLab in french but my modifications doesn't appears. I've already translated a few messages which still appears without any translation text. I hope i haven't done anything wrong. If someone can help or guide for this translation, it will be great because the french interface for IdeaLab does not seem to work properly. Thanks. Youni Verciti (talk) 16:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Variable geo messaging[edit]

I'm one of the regulars at the London meetup. We have a large group of regular and semiregular attendees, we also get the occasional newish editor needing a bit of help. We currently promote the event through watchlist notices, but people don't get a watchlist notice until they have been editing long enough to discover their watchlist. Also our watchlist notice has to be worded to attract regulars as well as newbies. I would like to experiment with a geotargeted ad that would be shown to logged in editors with 10-100 edits in the London area. Something like "Any questions about editing Wikipedia? London Wikipedians have a Wiki surgery on October the 9th." WereSpielChequers (talk) 16:19, 25 September 2016 (UTC)