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Sidebars in other languages[edit]

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This system message on this site, depending on the user-specified interface language:

  • en (English): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1]]
  • af (Afrikaans / Afrikaans): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/af]]
  • ar (العربية/Arabic): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/ar]]
  • bg (Bulgarian / Български): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/bg]]
  • da (Danish / Dansk): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/da]]
  • de (German / Deutsch): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/de]]
  • eo (Esperanto / Esperanto): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/eo]]
  • es (Spanish / Español): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/es]]
  • eu (Basque / Euskara): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/eu]]
  • fr (French / Français): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/fr]]
  • fy (West Frisian / Frysk): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/fy]]
  • ia (Interlingua): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/ia]]
  • it (Italian / Italiano): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/it]]
  • la (Latin / Latina): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/la]]
  • li (Limburgian / Limburgs): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/li]]
  • nl (Dutch / Nederlands): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/nl]]
  • no (Norwegian / ‪Norsk (bokmål)‬): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/no]]
  • pl (Polish / Polski): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/pl]]
  • pt (Portuguese / Português): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/pt]]
  • ru (Russian / Русский): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/ru]]
  • sv (Swedish / Svenska): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/sv]]
  • ta (Tamil / தமிழ்): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/ta]]
  • jbo (Lojban / jbobau): [[:MediaWiki:Sidebar/Archive/1/jbo]]

Maybe exists another translations — see autogenerated language list below:

Languages:

pages in the MediaWiki namespace regarding this message

translations in translatewiki regarding this message

Suggested (Longer) Sidebar design[edit]

  • main page
    • mainpage|mainpage
    • [mainpage]|mainpage
    • currentevents-url|currentevents
    • recentchanges-url|recentchanges
  • foundation
    • wmf-url|wmf
    • board-url|board
    • departments-url|departments
    • localchapter-url|localchapter
    • press-url|press
    • misc-url|minscellanous < "stuffs" servers, partners, ...
  • project coordination
    • allproject-url|allproject
    • translation-url|translation < TR
    • mediawikihelp-url|mediawikihelp < MediaWiki help front page
    • mediawikiversion-url|mediawikiversion < release note ...
  • help
    • helppage|help
    • sitesupport-url|sitesupport

How about modified naviagion box as above - it will be more vislble for everyone than relying on templates on particular pages. --Aphaia++ 10:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I think that would end up much too long. I'm not convinced the sidebar is the place for this. Angela 10:20, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
yep, it is a bit long; for usefulness it would be better to reduce in size.
I have convinced this ida for the foundation wiki originally since I had found some pages were almost dead-end (like "developers") on the site, I attemped to improve German and later Japanese pages with navigation footer but not yet convinced it works well. On the other hand, Wikimania wiki for non registered user seems to work well as for navigation. --Aphaia++ 10:56, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I think that would end up much too long - why then do you want a long navigation template? I rather like Aphaia's idea - I support it. Dan100 11:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Because those are useful on specific pages used that are intended to be used by people who would find those links useful. The sidebar is relevant to everyone, so needs to be more general. Angela 06:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Agreed - so how about reducing to a few additional links following the four major role of meta on Meta:About;
  1. Babel (general discussion)
  2. Foundation page (perhaps Wikimedia Foundation
  3. (Essays - but I don't think we need it)
  4. Multilingualism or more practically Translation requests for coordination
  5. a certain tech cenralized page
So the sidebar can be kept not so long - just five or four additional links. --Aphaia++ 19:51, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Is there any objection to adding a "permalink" in this sidebar. Since permanent links to the current version are now possible, I think it would be a useful addition for people who want to link to a version that they can be guaranteed is not vandalism. See MediaWiki:Permalink-url. Angela 06:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Sounds not a bad idea, but the link seems not to work. Aphaia++
It works for me. What happens for you? An alternative is to have this permalink in the toolbox instead. See en: for example - it's below the "printable version" link. Angela 18:27, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
It worked for me but I didn't understand the feature of permlin at that time ;( Anyway, it is already available on toolbox. --Aphaia++ 05:18, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

This Sidebarthing doesn't work[edit]

  • I've created an article called "Sidebar" and entered the links I want.

Nothing happened. I've really tried everything. I moved the Article to the namespace of my wiki. I've used the translated version of my links. I've also tried it with the array in Localsettings.php (which shouldn't work with 1.5.0 any more)

Nothing worked. I'm still seeing the default navigation.

What else could I do? Or what did I do wrong?

Ah, the Namespace has to be "MediaWiki", despite of the Namespaces in your own Wiki.

That's correct. All mediawiki-special pages must exist in the reserved namespace "MediaWiki:" to avoid conflicting with articles. -24.61.76.204 01:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I have edited the existing MediaWiki:Sidebar page and added a new link.

It works in local on my machine, but it does not work when moving all the wiki on a www.free.fr account. Is it a known problem? Is there another way to change this navigation menu? - 15 May 2006

different kind of a problem[edit]

i also do have problems with the mediawiki:sidebar - suddenly i cannot access the page. it's not like the side was restricted or blocked. i even cannot load the page. i get a blank page. i also cannot edit and save the current sidebar. or maybe i can save it but i cannot return to it.

edit: i cannot do anything with the sidebar but only when i am logged in. when i am not, i see the sidebar. wtf?

any ideas? thnx for help

Do you have a different skin selected? Maybe not logged-in people are seeing a different skin, and there's a problem with your selected skin (check in your user preferences) -- Harry Wood 13:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Linking to sections[edit]

On my website exampleproblems.com in the last version of wiki I could link to a section with a pound # but it doesn't work in 1.5.6. Here's a slice of code that used to work:

  1. Complex_Variables|Complex Variables
  2. Complex_Variables#Exponential_and_Log|---Exp and Log
  3. Complex_Variables#Residue_Calculus|---Residue Calculus
  4. Complex_Variables#Complex_Integration|---Complex Integrals
  5. Integral_Equations|Integral Equations

Now they all link to Complex_Variables. Thanks for any help.

--Tbsmith


mediawiki 1.5.5[edit]

how do i customize the navigation bar of mediawiki 1.5.5(i tried with MediaWiki:SideBar but i was not able)? any ideas ?

Not able? Could you find the MediaWiki:SideBar page. See also Manual:Navigation_bar -- Harry Wood 13:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

change the color of the text[edit]

How do I change the color of the text for the words "navigation", "search" and "toolbar"??

This should possible as a simple CSS change, but not sure actually. I notice the HTML doesn't give these bits a CSS class, so you may need to make HTML changes too
  <div class="portlet" id="p-navigation">
 		<h5>Navigation</h5>
		<div class="pBody">
-- Harry Wood 13:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. Now I've tested it out. The following works as a straightforward CSS change:
#p-navigation h5 { color:ORANGE }
#p-tb         h5 { color:ORANGE }
#p-search     h5 { color:ORANGE }
More elegant would be a CSS class for these three headings, but that's an HTML change.
See also skinning question on mediawiki.org (changing the colour of the links) -- Harry Wood 01:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Substitution[edit]

I substituted the contents of all these auxiliary MediaWiki pages. The resulting sidebar is the same. If there was a good reason for them except historic, we can change it back.--Patrick 09:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Those MediaWiki messages were important. After removing them users using other languages see the Sidebar only in English. Please change it back. stv 21:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I did not realize that. I have changed it back.--Patrick 00:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Editing the sidebar[edit]

I am the admin for my wiki and yet I still cannot edit the sidebar information. In particular, I want to add the "upload file" function to the toolbox. I did make all the changes necessary for the uploading of files, btw.

Any ideas?

Thanks everyone.

You have to edit your LocalSettings.php. WgEnableUploads = true;

Unable to edit sidebar via MediaWiki:SideBar in MW 1.9.2[edit]

I have created the page MediaWiki:SideBar on my wiki but changes to this page do not show up in the actual sidebar. I tried clearing the page cache, both in my browser and in MediWiki itself, as per the suggestions in the MediaWiki sidebar manual, but that didn't work. I want to change the text of the link that points to my home page to say "Main page", but, sadly, I can't (*sigh*).

Any help is greatly appreciated.


I just wan't to say ditto to our MediaWiki:SideBar. My problem is that I can't split our navigation sidebar into sections. I can edit the text, and add new items, but it doesn't recognize new sections. Once I create a new section in the code, everything else below it is invisible to our wiki. In other words, if I type in the following:
  • Heading
    • Item 1
    • Item 2
  • Heading 2
    • Item 3
    • Item 4

Heading 2 through Item 4 isn't recognized by our wiki. Obviously I'm missing something. Any ideas? I can change Items 1 & 2, or even add more items in that top section, but nothing after "Heading 2" will show up. I've tried the cache thing, too, and that isn't the problem. I sure could use your help. 24.2.84.39 03:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

This seems to be a common problem. Sysop, administrators, and beauracrats cannot edit sidebar. (They should be able to, so apparently we're all seeing a bug.)

Translation sidebar items&links on russian language (for use with rus. interface)[edit]

Need create mediawiki messages for some sidebar items - for use with russian interface (translating labels & change links on translated pages): I create required ttext on talk pages this messages. Please remove next "Mediawiki Talk:*" in "Mediawiki:*":


Thanks. --Kaganer 12:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm weird I thought all language had "MediaWiki:Mainpage" setting. Anyway, it's a nice idea. I'll follow you :) --Aphaia 21:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit]

Aphaia, Donate us --> Donate to us :-) Hillgentleman

Ah :( Thank you for your correction. By the way, it sounds a bit long. How about "Support us"? Or is it better to express that money matters explicitly? --Aphaia 21:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Either way is fine (Support us or Donate to us). Cbrown1023 talk 22:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I replaced the character "Donate" with "sitesupport" ([[[MediaWiki:Sitesupport]]), since the latter may give you your language version one but the former gives only "Donate" in every language setting. So if you prefer "donate", just modify MediaWiki:Sitesupport instead of this page directly. --Aphaia 22:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Ah good idea. Majorly (talk) 22:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Translations link[edit]

The translations link should point to translations instead of translation requests. The first is the most used and updated. The second seems to be deprecated. --Massimiliano L. 17:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Yes check.svg Done--Nick1915 - all you want 17:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh-oh I am not happy with this change. Do you mind me to revert it? --Aphaia 17:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
the old link seems to be very obsolete... are you sure?--Nick1915 - all you want 17:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I would love to see why you think it obsolated. It is our portal page. For already involved people, it might be useless, but there are links to FAQs and contact information; information we want newly coming people to know. If the link is moved, links to those pages should be put in a different way. Without such changes, I don't think it appropriate to make it orphan. --Aphaia 17:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok np, I'm not a translator... you know surely which is most convenient :) Thanks--Nick1915 - all you want 17:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I see that links are useful. But what about transfering them on the translations page head? Keeping that informations splitted on two pages is not so useful and it might be bewildering to new translators. --Massimiliano L. 18:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Point taken: and if Translations contains those information, I have no reason to oppose your proposing change :) Could you please try to merge them? --Aphaia 18:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Check it now. Is it ok? I think translations pages need a cleanup because now are quite confused. Maybe I'll propose on Meta:Babel some changes to tidy up them. --Massimiliano 23:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. Thank you for your help, and I'm looking for your proposal :) --Aphaia 01:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Translation for new section (russian)[edit]

Please create new MediaWiki messages for showing full translated sidebar in russian interface.

Please also change content in MediaWiki:Babel/ru on "Вавилонская башня" (without quotations) - for diffference name from Meta:Babylon.

Thanks! --Kaganer 10:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

List updated for new items. I wait and hope ;) --Kaganer 13:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for late update. Fixed. --Aphaia 14:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! All OK. --Kaganer 15:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Please remove a couple of items so search is on the main page[edit]

Of all the side links, I use search most of all, as do probably 99% of the visitors here. This new format causes the search to be off the main page, requiring scrolling down. If just three items were removed or condensed, then the search would then be on the main page, alleviating the necessity of scrolling. Odessaukrain 17:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I think a better solution would be to move the search box higher in mediawiki:monobook.css rather than removing items from the sidebar. Angela 11:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Angela, from what I have read, I actually don't think that is technically possible. Everything below the search bar is controlled by modifying PHP (which few people have access too, and which is described as difficult to modify).
Everything above the search bar can easily be changed by modifying MediaWiki talk:Sidebar, if you are an administrator, that is.
User:Krog got a Barnstar from me after giving me a personal solution which will work for anyone who doesn't like this set up:
"you may personalize your "monobook" (for example, you can hide the menu "beyond the web" by adding the code #p-Beyond_the_web { display: none; } in your subpage monobook.css), or even the search directly in your browser (depending on its capabilities)."
It works.
I am so grateful that User:Krog was able to assist me, after months of trying to change this on two wikiprojects (www.mediawiki.org also).
From the icy or indifferent reception I got from both projects, everyone else who doesn't like this set up is simply out of luck, but at least, thanks to User:Korg, I'm satisfied.Odessaukrain 11:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Odessaukrain, I went to my /skins/MonoBook.php and switched the positions for the sections of php code for the sidebar and for the search form (around line 120 for mediawiki-1.11.0) and the search form has gone on top. I don't know what the developers think, but the problem may be that all wikimedia projects are currently using the same monobook skin and it is not easy to get wikimedia-wide consensus on this issue. I don't know. But I agree with you, and it may worth trying. Hillgentleman 17:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

overload[edit]

The sidebar is overloaded. The sidebar should contain links which most people use. Links to special interest groups can be provided on the Main Page. Hillgentleman 17:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

And I argue that "Goings-on", "Translations" and "Wikimedia News" should not go under the heading "navigation", which should contain only the principal links. They are more useful for "community" or "beyond the web". Hillgentleman 22:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I propose to remove the links to the help pages in Deutsch and Francais, unless people think they are very useful. These pages are accessible one more click away from the "other languages" bar at the top of help:help. Hillgentleman 22:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Localized links should be on their respective localized sidebars (like MediaWiki:Sidebar/de). —{admin} Pathoschild 01:26:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Link to ru.planet.wikimedia.org[edit]

Please create MediaWiki:Planet-url/ru with link to http://ru.planet.wikimedia.org/ . Thanks! --Kaganer 13:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Done, but I am afraid it doesn't work as we expected? --Aphaia 13:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, it doesn't work :( It saddened me :( --Kaganer 23:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Nah, it doesn't. I think however we can employ another way: User:Alexsh gave a way for Wm2007: in a complicated way. See also Wm2007:User:Alexsh/sidetrans. --Aphaia 04:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Requests of Korean translation[edit]

--Ficell 11:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

With a little tweaks here-and-there, all Yes check.svg Done :-) Cbrown1023 talk 14:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Plese rename localised caption messages[edit]

Plese rename localised caption messages:

--Kaganer 17:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Done but ... I'm afraid I was better to do nothing?? --Aphaia 09:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - all OK! --Kaganer 13:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

Under the navigation section, could there be a link to the user list with:

I would prefer not, it seems unneeded and we have been trying to get the sidebar smaller. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 19:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I see. Never mind then. Thanks anyway. Maximillion Pegasus 19:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Requests of Korean translation (2)[edit]

There are some mistranslations.

--Ficell 05:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reporting, however, these translations are taken from betawiki:, so it should be corrected there, because it affects all wmf-projects if someone choses ko in his preferences.
Please see betawiki:MediaWiki:Portal-url/ko and betawiki:MediaWiki:Currentevents-url/ko
If You still don't have an account there, please create one, then go to betawiki:Betawiki:Translators and request translatorstatus (which is granted very fast).
Thanks for Your help, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 12:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
If the text is "Portal" and "Current events", betawiki's translation is correct. But in meta, the text is "Goings-on" and "Wikimedia news". That's why it is mistranslations. --Ficell 10:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Should be Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 01:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Dutch translation[edit]

Here's the Dutch translation:

That's it, I think. And btw, maybe you could change MediaWiki:Translations-url to "Translation requests" because the current one is a redirect. Thanks, SPQRobin (inc!) 12:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You! The Translations-url did not change for some strange reason and I saw that it had been changed to ..requests and back again already, maybe it is used somewhere else too. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 13:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Communication Projects Group[edit]

Is it still active? Should it stay on the sidebar? Hillgentleman 01:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we're planning on continuing another large project with Jay very soon. Cbrown1023 talk 22:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

slimming down the sidebar[edit]

Despite just adding another link to the sidebar, for Requests, I'd like to see a handful of links be merged or go away...

  • Translations/Babylon and WM Forum/Babel could preferably be merged (see how en:wp manages many village pumps via one parent page for instance).
  • Goings-on, Wikimedia News, Planet Wikimedia, and CommProjGrp can be merged somehow into a more useful news + updates portal
  • Meet Wikimedians, Events, and Wikimania : likewise!
  • 'DVDs' is out of place and not terribly informative -- it should be part of a larger page on wikimedia content offline, with links to all the options for same : offline readers, cds, dvds, books, &c
  • perhaps Requests should be part of a larger category too but I can't think of a better name or target.

-- sj | help translate |+ 18:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

So do it :D  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese translation[edit]

This is the sidebar in Portuguese:

  • PESQUISA
  • navegação
    • mainpage|Página principal
    • portal-url|Portal comunitário
    • currentevents-url|Eventos atuais
    • translations-url|Traduções
    • recentchanges-url|Mudanças recentes
    • randompage-url|Página aleatória
    • helppage|Ajuda
  • Comunidade
    • Wikimedia Forum|WikimediaForum-text
    • Meta:Babel|Babel-text
    • Meta:Babylon|Babylon-text
    • Meta:Requests and proposals|Requests-text
    • planet-url|Planeta Wikimedia
    • Communication Projects Group|ComProj-text
  • Além da web
    • Meetup|Meetup-text
    • Events|Events-text
    • Wikimedia chapters|Chapters-text
    • Wikipedia on CD/DVD|DVD-text
    • Wikimania 2009|Wikimania-text
    • sitesupport-url|sitesupport

And some other messages to translate:

Helder 13:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done/Yes check.svg Feito. Obrigado, Helder. Alex Pereira falaê 14:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Eu é que agradeço... ;-) Só tenho uma pergunta: depois de criadas as versões em pt/pt-br, é preciso fazer alguma coisa para que as mudanças apareçam? Eu limpei o cache por exemplo, mas continua em inglês para mim. Já está funcionando contigo? Helder 14:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Normal demorar um pouco, já que é o cache dos servidores que deverá ser atualizado, mas é só aguardar... Saudações. Alex Pereira falaê 14:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah tá... eu não sabia... Valeu, e desculpe a pressa! Helder 14:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar click-through stats?[edit]

Here's a novel idea. Before a re-design of the sidebar, is there any data on actual usage (click-through) statistics that might inform our decisions, rather than just spewing out notions and hunches? -- Thekohser 03:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Russian localisation for new items[edit]

Please create two new localised items:

--Kaganer 16:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. --Az1568 (talk) 05:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Reports[edit]

  1. Please change "Reports" caption to "Reports-text" (for translation ability).
  2. Please create
    1. MediaWiki:Reports-text with text "Reports"
    2. MediaWiki:Reports-text/ru with text "Отчёты"

--Kaganer 21:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Chapters-text/ru[edit]

Please improve Russian translation to

Региональные организации

This more correct version, corresponding with new version of page wmf:Региональные организации (former wmf:Местные отделения). Thanks. --Kaganer 09:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 09:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia style?[edit]

Is there a custom way of creating a command user-enabled to add a link on the sidebar that links to another wiki? The only difference from Wikipedia is that it'll be another WikiMedia wiki, so I'd like something as [[en:Page in english]], and my wiki's pagename would be "Página em português", so adding that command specifying "en" in the beginning would generate a sidebar link to the English wiki.

To be more clear my friend has a wiki about an upcoming MMORPG called Guild Wars 2, it's in portuguese and most of the content we translate from the official english wiki, and I'd like to reference every page to the official wiki's page. Since there may be variations in the *page name* I'd like that link to be synchronized accordingly.

One example at Wikipedia: Example (the 'Languages' tab)

I hope you understood, and help me! Thank you so much! :) - 177.0.27.252 06:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)