Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Toba Batak

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This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Approved by the language committee, awaiting creation: phab:T350320 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code bbc (SIL, Glottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Toba Batak Language name in English
Language name ᯅᯖᯂ᯲ ᯖᯬᯅ / Batak Toba Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33017 - item has currently the following values:
 Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL bbc.wikipedia.org langcode.wikiproject.org

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Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipedia usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Parhataon ni Wikipedia "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
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Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Asia/Jakarta "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Proposal[edit]

Toba Batak (Hata Batak Toba) is an Austronesian language which is spoken by the Toba Batak people. It is a part of the Batakic languages. That language used to be written in Surat Batak, but nowadays it is written in the Latin alphabet.

The native land of the Toba Batak speakers is located in North Sumatra, Indonesia, especially regencies surrounding Lake Toba and Samosir Island such as North Tapanuli, Toba, Samosir and Humbang Hasundutan. The Toba Batak speakers can also be found in other areas of North Sumatra such as Medan, Dairi, Simalungun, and Pematang Siantar, and other areas of Indonesia such as Riau, Riau Islands, Jakarta, and West Java.
The Toba Batak language is a part of the Toba Batak culture. The existence of Wikipedia Batak Toba is important for preserving the Toba Batak language and also spreading knowledge about Toba Batak, Indonesia and the universe for the Toba Batak people in their own language.

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Discussion[edit]

Arguments in favor[edit]

English: Toba Batak; local name: Batak Toba. Wirjadisastra (talk) 05:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against[edit]

Other discussions[edit]

I'm always for a new viable Wikipedia, but I'm always uncomfortable when a bunch of supports pop up on a request for a new Wikipedia. It does not need a bunch of people saying support, it needs a lot of people working in the Incubator over a period of time, and then working on the Wikipedia once it gets moved out of the Incubator. (In specific, not that I know it to be true in this case, it needs a lot of people who know the language, not who want to support the language.) Go. Build.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20:20, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosfilaes Well, you can't just expect everyone to build despite having millions of speakers that know the language, not everyone has free time to contribute over time or even has access to internet. Take a look at Indonesian incubator projects such as Wikivoyage Indonesian or Wikinews Indonesian; despite having roughly 200 million people who know the language, they are still stuck in incubator for like a decade long. Veracious (talk) 02:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't matter. Again, "it needs a lot of people working in the Incubator over a period of time, and then working on the Wikipedia once it gets moved out of the Incubator." There can be hundreds of millions of people who speak the language, and it doesn't matter if there's nobody who wants to work on the project.--Prosfilaes (talk) 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that the approval is considering: [1]. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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