Talk:List of articles every Wikipedia should have/Expanded/People

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A catastrophy[edit]

This list is a catastrophy. 100 "Artists / Architects, visual", 135 "Authors / Poets"? Not much in 5000 years human history. But 120 (!!!) "Actors and Actresses", a medium, that's 120 years old? And then - mostly american or english speaking people. Dinah Shore? Ed Sullivan? (not much people outsite the USA know him, he's not important worldwide!) William Shatner? Deborah Kerr? (I love her, but she's not that important to be listed here) and so on. But at the Artist no Exekias, no Euphronios, no Berlin painter, no Polykletos, no Kresilas, no Lysippos, no Praxiteles, no Scopas, no Phyromachos. There's no Apelles or Polygnotos. What's with Hermogenes or Mnesikles? All in all the ancient art is unbeleavable unterrepresented. Why? It's the fundament of the western culture! But who knows Richard Meier? And I better not start to talk about the mixing of historical periods. The western System with Prehistory - Ancient Times - Middle Ages - Modern Age is only fitting for the western world and it don't fit also for Sub-Sahara Africa, Pre-columbian America or Far East. It's an old view of the world, an collonial view! Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC) PS: Same in sports. The people of the english speaking countries are so much more than all the others - it's not realistic. And because this is the list with articles ALL Wikipedias should have: dear US-Americans: no American Footballer or Baseballer. The most of the world is not interested in these sports. And Paul Bunyan also knows nearly nobody outsite the english speaking world. Why "Hänsel and Gretel" are "Mythical and legendary people" but "Snow White" should be a "Fictional/cartoon character" - both comes from Grimms fairy tales. And Homer Simpson don't need an article in every Wikipedia - the main article depending the Simpsons should be enough.

Reggie Williams - are you kidding?GrV (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I think for this list. If you mention what you want to do and nobody complains bitterly. You can go ahead and make the change. And so far nobody has complained about these changes. They seem fine to me. --MarsRover 07:35, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Sports and olympic people sorted[edit]

I've sorted the sportspeople into their different sports her: User:Santac/sandbox1. If no-one complains I'll change it on this page. --Santac (talk) 06:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorting would be a great improvment. Boivie (talk) 08:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Sports and olympic people - notable?[edit]

After having sorted the sportspeople it's hard not to notice the very biased selection. I dont' know much of the american sports but I've tried to set stars on the must hae articles. I hope that thess stars can be used to sort out some of the entries. I want to sort them out in order to add some athletes. Since i don't know much about the american sports I would prefer if someone else sorted them out. e.g. Figure skating: remoce 90%, Baseball: remove 50%, Basketball: remove 50%. --Santac (talk) 06:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I think it's hard to know what sports are important on a global level. But I'll make a guess, and say that Baseball is the most overrepresented sport in the list, and that it could be reduced by 60%. Then I would think American football, Basketball, Figureskating and Tennis each could be reduced by 30%. I think Soccer is the sport that would need the biggest increase, being the #1 or #2 sport in basically all countries around the world except the US and Canada. I also would add some to Motorsports. Like you, I wouldn't know which specific persons to remove, and if noone else are willing to sort them out, there's always a possibility to use some kind of statistics, like the size of the articles at enwiki, or the number of languages who has an article. Boivie (talk) 08:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Now I checked the list at enwiki, en:Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Expanded/People#Sports figures, 134, and it seems to be better balanced. Boivie (talk) 09:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I think we should copy the list from en:vital_articles to this page and delete the sports entries that are now. Then we can add the 66 articles from that to get to 200 (if thats the limit). --Santac (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I've deleted 50% of the baseball entries (and Reggie W from basketball), none of them was on en:vital articles. Then I added the people listed below. --Santac (talk) 05:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Sailing[edit]

Soccer[edit]

From http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1794901-30-best-international-players-of-all-time/page/32

Bicycle[edit]

equestrian[edit]

Athletics[edit]

Sources[edit]

All athletes: http://www.thetoptens.com/athletes/
Athletics: http://observer.theguardian.com/toptens/story/0,,1079054,00.html
Cycling: http://listverse.com/2009/05/08/top-10-best-road-cycle-racers-of-all-time/
Olympic games: http://list25.com/25-most-remarkable-summer-olympians-of-all-time/2/
Sailing: http://www.topendsports.com/events/summer/medal-tally/rankings-sports-sailing.htm
I've deleted some more; Figure skating and American football was cut in half. Then I added various sports eg badminton. Since the list was so obviously US-biased I've made the changes without debating who to delete/add. There's still more work to do on the list, but now it's a lot more balanced. --Santac (talk) 09:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Great! Keep on making changes to these lists wherever you find need for improvements. Boivie (talk) 17:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I've tried to further reduce US-centrism, also added some sports like biathlon, gymnastics, nordic skiing and field hockey. Partly folowed en:Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Expanded/People#Sports_figures.2C_113--Sporti (talk) 10:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Additions[edit]

I have boldly added

Is this OK? I think their importance is clear e.g. from the current English articles (except in the case of Roland). I also took one out, from among mythical and legendary people --

  • en:Cassiopeia (mythology) (a very minor figure, and there are too many from Greek mythology: she remains as a constellation, elsewhere in the 10,000)

Please tell me if I need to explain more! Andrew Dalby (talk) 15:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I support all these, and strongly support la:Cicero and en:Pāṇini. A. Mahoney (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. But I didn't realise, when I did this, that the total of 10,000 has already been reached. I ought therefore to propose some deletions to match, and I will do so at Talk:List of articles every Wikipedia should have/Expanded. Andrew Dalby (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Very few chemists[edit]

People like Linus Pauling, Gilbert Lewis, Fritz Haber, Robert Burns Woodward, ... made very important contributions to humankind and are not on the list. Ariel C.M.K. (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, add them in and see if anybody complains. --MarsRover 09:02, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Done. Ariel C.M.K. (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Actors[edit]

We have a preliminary discussed quota of 70 for actors, but 125 actual. Therefore some cuts are inevitable. What we can do for now is moving some less notable actors to Candidates subpage. I am not competent enough to make any changes to actors list, but i have asked user:Horim who is an active editor on movies to make some suggestions (see his talk page, unfortunately only in Russian). Now i will make cuts according to his suggestions, but even some more are necessary.--Abiyoyo (talk) 11:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

What is also important is to add some more asian (chinese, indian, japanese etc), african, maybe australian and european actors. For now there is a dominance of US actors, which is fair (for Hollywood importance and influence), but it should be not that overwhelming. Therefore even more cuts in american actors in favour of others is necessary.--Abiyoyo (talk) 12:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Current political leaders, 13[edit]

In section Current political leaders, 13 instead of G8 countries, plus Brazil, China, India shouldn't it be G7 plus BRICS? --° (talk) 17:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

One in, one out[edit]

I wanted to add the most significant Romanian author, en:Mihai Eminescu. I feel we have too many English-speaking and too many science fiction authors so I took out Clifford D. Simak. If anyone wants to suggest a different change, please say! Andrew Dalby (talk) 21:03, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Directors[edit]

I will do the changes discussed in [1], if no one is opposed.--Jglamela (talk) 09:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)