Talk:QW2022

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Anyone can comment here[edit]

Thanks! Bluerasberry (talk) 16:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Call for project manager[edit]

There is QW2022/call for project management

I advertised this on wiki at

I talked with external vendor

and have contacted

and some individual consultancies that I will not name yet. If anyone has referrals then please share. Bluerasberry (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Bluerasberry (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Candidacy of Education@Internet (E@I)[edit]

The organization Education@Internet (in which I am working and volunteering) have candidated for the position of project management and providing the conference platform for WQ 2022. E@I has a more than a decade long experience of organising in-person conferences, seminars and meetings, and since 2020 also experience of organizing virtual conferences of its own and for other organisations (most notably Virtual Congress of Esperanto in 2020 for the World Esperanto Assotiation with cca 1 800 registered participants, and also smaller meetings for e.g. World Esperanto Youth Organisation and International League of Esperantists Teachers with hundreds of participants). That inlcudes the general organisation, event and project management, program compilation, marketing, bookkeeping, managing volunteers etc. E@I has developed its own online platform for such conferences - Retevent - and can provide it for QW 2022.

Members of the team also have a wikimedia community experience, notably organising the Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2013 together by E@I and WMSVK (in which I was responsible for organising) and organizing WMSVK's Slovakian WikiConference 2015 and 2017 (both of them organized by me).

E@I has a long tradition of supporting Wikimedia movement. E.g. both of the books in language Esperanto about Wikipedia are published by E@I, E@I have organised the first succesful article-editing competition in the Esperanto Wikipedia and for years is providing office, post address and mentoring for Wikimedia User Groups Wikimedians of Slovakia and Esperanto and Free Knowledge. I, as a long time active wikimedia community organiser (many article-editing competitions, founding and leading organisation, engagement, IT for WM organisation etc), am personally involved in E@I and its candidacy for project management role for QW. --KuboF Hromoslav (talk) 16:10, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

conference dates?[edit]

is there a date for the conference? Or any indication of what month it will be in? thanks --MassiveEartha (talk) 17:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MassiveEartha: October. Bluerasberry (talk) 01:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikimania platform post[edit]

Choosing an online platform for Wikimedia events is challenging because of our community's accessibility needs.

See this recent post about Wikimania's platform https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/07/20/the-platform-powering-wikimania-2022/ Bluerasberry (talk) 14:21, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Postponement[edit]

Queering Wikipedia 2022 is postponed. The new target is early 2023.

We continue to seek applicants for project management.

Two roles and likely two different managers:

  • set up all technical aspects of this online conference, including website and video streaming
  • Wikimedia community management, including support for the volunteer communities for program, communications, moderation, and administration

The Wikimedia community is good at presenting Wikipedia. Our community of volunteers is not good at event administration, which is why we have paid roles. Apply through the link above. Thanks. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Where can we read about the reasons for the postponement? Peltarion (talk) 02:28, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Our appeal for project management was poorly focussed, meaning that the bids we had were more directed at the technical aspects than the project management and event management aspects. As we were getting increasingly close to the proposed date of the conference and our internal volunteer capacity is low, we discussed with our partner in the Grants team and agreed to postpone the external-facing parts of the conference, so that we can ensure it gets organised properly. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 07:22, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Whilst I agree that Beeblebrox's comment above serves no obvious purpose apart from harassment, I think that the more sensible people here should think about how the involvement of more than one person who has been banned or long-term blocked from their home Wikis reflects on this and other LGBTQ+ projects within Wikimedia. Some of us have avoided getting involved in the past because of the presence of certain individuals. Openly disassociating yourselves from certain types might make it easier to recruit those queer Wikipedians that want to avoid them. 82.45.168.246 16:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm with the other anon. Wikimedia LGBT is basically synonymous with Fae - who seems to be on every committee, attend every meeting, and run every communications channel the UG has. There are plenty of queer Wikimedians, myself included, who've suffered from Fae's harassment, bullying and hounding in the past and are never going to feel safe in a space run by Fae. But there seems to be no way to raise this issue safely with the UG when you have a bunch of "safe space" policies written by one of the biggest harassers in the movement that direct you to committees on which they also sit. The sooner the User Group stops digging this hole the better tbh, and the only way to get out of it is to make it clear that Fae doesn't occupy any positions of authority in the group. 2A02:C7F:BD0C:F700:910E:250:98D9:C305 16:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Off-topic, allegations that a user is abusing multiple accounts belong at RfCU, any other behavioral concerns may be addressed at Meta:RFH. More general discussion of concerns with the organization belong at Talk:Wikimedia LGBT+, this talk page is not a forum for general discussion 131.128.76.50 19:49, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Where can we read more about Fae creating one exceedingly obvious sock after another in the name of avoiding harassment? Beeblebrox (talk) 16:19, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your continued harassment of Fæ on and off wiki is a frustrating timesink. I'm not going to write about their involvement without their consent, but I will remind you that the user group is a Foundation Affiliate in good standing and that neither AffCom nor the Grants team, nor Community Resilience & Sustainability (Trust & Safety) nor the User Group's governance team share the concerns you and others keep raising on Wikipediocracy. Perhaps we could all maybe try to focus on improving encyclopædic content rather than what appear, from outside at least, to be years-long personal vendettas? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 07:40, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PS: Incidentally, when I get up to go to the toilet at 4am and notice harassment that I revert, I tend to go back to bed, rather than answering other questions I hadn't previously seen.
  • Yeah, this is just absurd. Owen has acknowledged right here that he knows as well as all the rest of us that these accounts are all Fae. So, what's the point? Fae is a poison on this user group. Fae quit every other aspect of involvement with this movement. They don't contribute anything anymore except to pop up with a new sock every few months to make edits about this user group. The socks aren't for protection, they are for maintaining the premise that Fae is "on strike" while continuing their years-long quest to squeeze some cash out of their involvement with the Wikimedia movement. Fae is using you all for their own agenda, and it's sad and alarming that some of you can't seem to see it. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:58, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Again, the talk page of an event is not the appropriate place to make accusations of harassment or of improper behaviour of an Affiliate that the Foundation considers to be in good standing and about whom the Grants teams have no concerns. If editors, logged in or otherwise, want to make such accusations, they should do so through the appropriate channels. Allegations that a user is abusing multiple accounts belong at RfCU, any other behavioral concerns may be addressed at Meta:RFH. More general discussion of concerns with the organization belong at Talk:Wikimedia LGBT+, this talk page is not a forum for general discussion. — OwenBlacker (Talk), on behalf of the User Group Governance Committee. 20:45, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Budget change[edit]

Along with the postponement, the budget for project management increased from $30,000 to $40,000, which reflects the expanded scope of project management required for QW22. While justified, this is a significant change to the budget. How is this increase being funded? Is it additional funds from WMF? If it is being funded by a reallocation of the existing budget, where can we see what aspects are being decreased? Peltarion (talk) 01:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Peltarion: It may either be an increase from the WMF or a reallocation. Our grants officer communicated that either is an option. For now it is an undetermined reallocation, then if more money is needed to make the conference a success, then the WMF will provide.
I want to be forthcoming with information but it is challenging for me to guess what is useful. Feel free to ask more as you like. One bit of context, if it is not clear: we are all volunteers lacking professional experience in this space. We, and the Wikimedia Movement in general, are anticipating a future where professional conference managers take on more responsibility in presenting more Wikimedia community conferences. It has been hard to guess what rates people and organizations would quote in the market place, and how they would respond to the unique needs of the wiki community.
When you are thinking of these budget questions, you might also wish to reflect on the big picture: Wikimedia community groups like ours would prefer to get $0, and instead just have referrals to adequate staffing to administer conferences. This is a challenge for us and not standardized among the 15-20 Wikimedia conferences which happen annually, and which are increasing in number. We have the LGBT+ side covered, and we have volunteer activities covered. What we lack is everything not LGBT+, and that which volunteers will not do. I wish that I could show you the Wikimedia community's proven conference budget which works, so that for any given conference, it would be easy to see what is normal. This conference is doing a lot of new things so norms are not established.
And if you know a person or organization who can run a conference for 40k, then send them over. I wish it were easy to hire professional services to do this. Bluerasberry (talk) 12:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]