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Latest comment: 3 years ago by John Yesberg in topic Move redress into its own step, perhaps


This essay has already been endorsed a fair bit on the wikimedia-l mailing list, but just chiming in here on the talk page as well to say that this is great. Thank you for creating a dedicated home for this essay on Meta-Wiki. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:26, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

+1. very good! --Atlasowa (talk) 14:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Page title[edit]

For the essay's title, "So you've made a public mistake..." may be a bit tighter/better than "So you've made a mistake and it's public..." but maybe not. I'll keep thinking on it.

I created redirects at mistake and mistakes so that I'll hopefully be able to find this page again in the future. (Mike Peel beat me to the So you've made a mistake and it's public [i.e., no trailing dots] redirect!) --MZMcBride (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Several years later... and I just came here successfully from one of those redirects. I forgot the precise title of the page, but knew it had that word in it somewhere :-) Wittylama (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Step 3[edit]

Should Step 3 include a note about apologizing? --MZMcBride (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

+1 to all positive notes about this essay. :) I tend to think it should, MZMcBride, when that mistake causes harm or inconvenience to somebody. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 17:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes, absolutely, thank you! Added. Ijon (talk) 18:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply


The category Category:Learning patterns was added and then removed in recent days. What's up? -Pete F (talk) 17:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I think Nemo was correct to remove it (though he might have explained). The page is correctly identified as an essay; learning patterns have a particular structure, which this essay does not follow. While there is (if I do say so myself) something to be learned from this essay, it does not make sense to group it with learning patterns and dilute the meaning of that term, while also not classing all the other essays, many of them instructive, as learning patterns. Ijon (talk) 11:55, 22 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Move redress into its own step, perhaps[edit]

I think this essay encapsulates some important wisdom.

Step 1 explores "why I made the mistake", and in an afterthought suggests also thinking about "what can be redressed/undone/reverted about this mistake." I think these are two quite separate steps. It would feel more logical to me to have a first-level section to discuss the redress:

  1. Acknowledge it happened
  2. Why did it happen
  3. How to fix it
  4. How to prevent recurrence
  5. Communicate
  6. Act

Interested to hear your thoughts.

--John Yesberg (talk) 08:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)Reply