Talk:Spam blacklist
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- Please provide evidence of spamming on several wikis. Spam that only affects a single project should go to that project's local blacklist. Exceptions include malicious domains and URL redirector/shortener services. Please follow this format. Please check back after submitting your report, there could be questions regarding your request.
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- Please check our list of requests which repeatedly get declined. Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their value in support of our projects. Please consider whether requesting whitelisting on a specific wiki for a specific use is more appropriate - that is very often the case.
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Proposed additions
[edit]This section is for proposing that a website be blacklisted; add new entries at the bottom of the section, using the basic URL so that there is no link (example.com, not http://www.example.com). Provide links demonstrating widespread spamming by multiple users on multiple wikis. Completed requests will be marked as {{added}} or {{declined}} and archived. |
Spam at ro.wiki
[edit]meandertravel.com
Tgeorgescu (talk) 14:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Declined not problematic enough to justify global listing. Defer to w:ro:Mediawiki talk:spam-blacklist. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 14:39, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
javaburn.usa-live.com
[edit]usa-live.com
Latest spambot spam target, I can only see two of them ([1] [2] [3]), but I'm pretty sure that most of the spambots today were attempting to spam the link. ClumsyOwlet (talk) 17:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, [4] might be better. ClumsyOwlet (talk) 13:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @ClumsyOwlet: Added to Spam blacklist. --XXBlackburnXx (talk) 14:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
mostbet-bk
[edit]mostbet-bk.de
mostbet-bk.com
- Regex requested to be blacklisted:
mostbet
Spambot gambling spam ([5] [6]). ClumsyOwlet (talk) 22:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @ClumsyOwlet: Added to Spam blacklist. --XXBlackburnXx (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
ekran.mk
[edit]ekran.mk
Compromised content farm used to facilitate cross-wiki spam, controlled by (see explanation) the hrtwiki/Мкдвики cluster (SRG archive; en SPI; nl overview). Pages at the names targeted by this cluster have been deleted in many language editions (recent deletions: bs, el, es, fr, hu, simple, ro (AfD), sl; less recent, repeated: it; many on enwiki, see instead titleblacklist and the related discussion), but they are still being created (recent creations at nl:Aleksandar Sasja Trajkovski and it:Bozza:Saša Trajkovski) and they invariably contain links to ekran.mk, i.e. rely on such self-created spam to create an illusion of independent coverage (see example of recent addition at hr:Special:Diff/7028973). Other content on the content farm which does not immediately bear a connection to the described activity is not credible and not useful.Alalch E. (talk) 23:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- looking at this soon. I did a CU on nlwiki as well, but found nothing interesting. -XXBlackburnXx (talk) 04:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Proposed removals
[edit]This section is for proposing that a website be unlisted; please add new entries at the bottom of the section. Use a suitable 3rd level heading and display the domain name as per this example {{LinkSummary|targetdomain.com}} . Please do not add the protocol part of domain name, eg. http
Remember to provide the specific domain blacklisted, links to the articles they are used in or useful to, and arguments in favour of unlisting. Completed requests will be marked as See also recurring requests for repeatedly proposed (and refused) removals. Notes:
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theofficialboard.com
[edit]theofficialboard.com
This website contains valuable financial information for many companies. Peter.Pielmeier (talk) 07:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
youtu.be
[edit]youtu.be
Discussion continued from en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#youtu.be_blacklist.
When you use the share button on youtube it uses the official url shortener. Blocking that makes no sense, it is only inconvenient. Let's say we have https://youtu.be/Zl8BIUx8QW0?feature=shared&t=1 then we can simply change it to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl8BIUx8QW0#t=1 and then it suddenly is allowed. But of course many people don't know that. This url shortener cannot be used for malicious purposes because it only redirects to youtube, so it is more like a domain alias than an url shortener. Polygnotus (talk) 21:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't that youtu.be creation service embed tracking tokens in the default generated link though - something we normally want to discourage. — xaosflux Talk 00:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: No, it doesn't. It only adds ?feature=shared, which track usage of the feature but is not a tracking token. Polygnotus (talk) 00:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, based on this it seems likely that it did a year ago, but it doesn't currently. Polygnotus (talk) 00:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm, so I just went to a YT page, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEgfuhuRwRI, and hit the "share" button - what generates is: https://youtu.be/HEgfuhuRwRI?si=jOnhNOOTYjr8E39y. Notice all that extra ?si= stuff? — xaosflux Talk 00:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Hm, it doesn't for me, and I have never seen that parameter before. I get https://youtu.be/HEgfuhuRwRI?feature=shared Possibly because we live in different jurisdictions? I live in the old world, do you live in the new world? We can use a bot that removes the tracking parameter, or even a regex that blocks its inclusion (ideally with a better explanation for the enduser). But I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Polygnotus (talk) 01:06, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I also get the si parameter. I live in the old world. Alalch E. (talk) 01:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Alalch E.: It could be a GDPR thing. You live outside the GDPR area, right? Polygnotus (talk) 01:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's not the law of the land here (does not apply domestically with respect to activities that are domestic in reach). Alalch E. (talk) 02:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Over here it very much is the law of the land. I think that solves the mystery. Polygnotus (talk) 02:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's not the law of the land here (does not apply domestically with respect to activities that are domestic in reach). Alalch E. (talk) 02:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Alalch E.: It could be a GDPR thing. You live outside the GDPR area, right? Polygnotus (talk) 01:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I also get the si parameter. I live in the old world. Alalch E. (talk) 01:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Hm, it doesn't for me, and I have never seen that parameter before. I get https://youtu.be/HEgfuhuRwRI?feature=shared Possibly because we live in different jurisdictions? I live in the old world, do you live in the new world? We can use a bot that removes the tracking parameter, or even a regex that blocks its inclusion (ideally with a better explanation for the enduser). But I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Polygnotus (talk) 01:06, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm, so I just went to a YT page, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEgfuhuRwRI, and hit the "share" button - what generates is: https://youtu.be/HEgfuhuRwRI?si=jOnhNOOTYjr8E39y. Notice all that extra ?si= stuff? — xaosflux Talk 00:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support removing - this seems to have been blacklisted based on "No URL shorteners" as a dogma and seems to get in people's way without solving a clear problem. * Pppery * it has begun 03:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- The domain was blacklisted at the time not only because it’s a redirector, but also due to its widespread abuse by spambots. The spam blacklist was the only effective tool to manage the spam. Also, if I or anyone else were to blacklist a specific youtube.com link, then the spammers could use the youtu.be domain to circumvent the listing. That is why redirectors are ultimately listed as they provide a way to bypass the blacklist. Just giving my 2ct :). Pinging Beetstra, who originally listed the domain. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 04:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @XXBlackburnXx: in the discussion on enwiki, linked at the top of this section, the proposed solution was to blacklist the video id, which ensures that both the youtu.be/%id% and /watch?v=%id% format are blocked. Polygnotus (talk) 04:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Troubleshooting and problems
[edit]Discussion
[edit]This section is for discussion of Spam blacklist issues among other users. |