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Renan Feitosa

Olá boa tarde, gostaria que me tirasse uma dúvida... Qual o modo estrutural que existe para atualizações na Wikipédia, além de atualizações feitas por pessoas que tem o cadastro para os conteúdos disponíveis, fundamentando minha dúvida que seria ter conhecimento se existe algum tipo de sistema que recebe ou busca atualizações dos conteúdos expostos aos internautas? Grato desde já por sua atenção, aguardo seu contato!

Editing window layout in classic toobar version vs. enhanced toolbar version

I have switched from the enhanced/WikiEditor toolbar to classic toolbar, i.e. enhanced toolbar currently disabled. Then I realized that the editing window in the "classic" version is also different from the "enhanced" one. The text and spaces are smaller especially to read in the "classic" version than the "enhanced" one. What can be done about the difference in the editing window? --George Ho (talk) 22:42, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@George Ho: Here's a screenshot of what I see, which is only a difference in the leading (aka line-spacing). I can make them look the same by adding this to my Special:MyPage/global.css: #wpTextbox1 {line-height: 1.1em;}

If you see further differences, it would help if you could provide either screenshots or precise typographical terminology (I think you're referring to the w:en:leading and font-size). Thanks. Quiddity (talk) 17:32, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh... I didn't realize the description refers to "(line) leading". (Well, a jargon (no offense); thanks for letting me know, Quiddity.) Yeah, that's exactly what I was referring to by looking at the screenshots. No need to explain any other differences, though I noticed that, by switching to "classic" mode, there are more buttons in enWP than at Meta-wiki. Personally, I don't need a personal script for special treatment, but thanks. If filing a Phabricator task is too soon, maybe I'll wait for the upcoming Community Wishlist Survey. Fair? --George Ho (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC); see below, --05:26, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I changed my mind. I created my own "global.css", Quiddity. I tested both 1.1em and 1.5em. I find the "1.5em" setup more readable than the "1.1em" setup. I created more screenshots to confirm my studies. --George Ho (talk) 05:26, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

This old editing environment is being removed from MediaWiki (maybe later this month). It will shortly stop being supported by the WMF and no longer be in your preferences. If you are using it, then no toolbar will appear (but everything else will be the same). I believe that some editors at the French Wikipedia plan to convert the old toolbar to a user script/gadget. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing: If the old toolbar will be gone and... vamoosed, what about the line-spacing that I raised earlier and showed in screenshots? Can it be upgraded all over wikis? BTW, I guess I'll miss that old toolbar. --George Ho (talk) 23:42, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Users will default to the oldest wikitext mw:editor. The line spacing in it can be changed with sitewide CSS, and the change that you made will probably work in the oldest editor, too. Local admins can do this for everyone (if they know how to write CSS, obviously).

There is an effort to replace the 2006 wikitext editor with a user script (probably one that already exists at the French Wikipedia). Assuming that works out, you should be able to switch to the user script and have almost the same thing anyway. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the whole reply, Whatamidoing. If I want the site-wide line-spacing change, must I ask at a Community Wishlist for consensus or file a Phabricator task? Or can the line-spacing be changed right away? --George Ho (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Each wiki can adjust this. For example, at the English Wikipedia, you would ask for this to be changed at w:en:WP:VPT. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Fresh edits

For a long time I can not get to the page "Fresh edits" in the Chechen Wikipedia gives this. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 10:26, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

By "fresh edits" you mean ce:Special:RecentChanges? Ruslik (talk) 20:16, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Timeline date range of Editor Interaction Analyzer

The Editor Interaction Analyser works all right. However, its date range seems to be broken or something, and it has been for months. I sampled some "timeline" pages, but the pages are blank when clicking "timeline". I tried on both IE11 and Chrome, but the issue still persists. I'll ping its operator Σ about this. At first I was going to raise this at enWP, but then I realized that the issue extends to other projects as well. Therefore, I'll raise it here instead. --George Ho (talk) 04:20, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not see any problem. Ruslik (talk) 19:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Have you tried clicking "(timeline)" links yet, Ruslik0? --George Ho (talk) 20:56, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes. When I click "(timeline)" a form appears. Ruslik (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Yep it's broken. Here when you click "timeline" you get a link [1] (where is &startdate=20160101000000) when the link should be [2] (&startdate=20160101). Stryn (talk) 14:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

@Σ: want to look? Stryn (talk) 17:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that Σ (talk) 02:54, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Improvements coming soon to Recent Changes

Hello

Sorry to use English. Please help translate to your language! Thank you.

In short: starting on 26 September, New Filters for Edit Review (now in Beta) will become standard on Recent Changes. They provide an array of new tools and an improved interface. If you prefer the current page you will be able to opt out. Learn more about the New Filters.

What is this feature again?

This feature improves Special:RecentChanges and Special:RecentChangesLinked (and soon, Special:Watchlist – see below).

Based on a new design, it adds new features that ease vandalism tracking and support of newcomers:

• Filtering - filter recent changes with easy-to-use and powerful filters combinations, including filtering by namespace or tagged edits.
• Highlighting - add a colored background to the different changes you are monitoring. It helps quick identification of changes that matter to you.
• Bookmarking to keep your favorite configurations of filters ready to be used.
• Quality and Intent Filters - those filters use ORES predictions. They identify real vandalism or good faith intent contributions that need help. They are not available on all wikis.

You can know more about this project by visiting the quick tour help page.

Concerning RecentChanges

Starting on 26 September, New Filters for Edit Review will become standard on Recent Changes. We have decided to do this release because of a long and successful Beta test phase, positive feedback from various users and positive user testing.

Some features will remain as Beta features and will be added later. Learn more about those different features.

If your community has specific concerns about this deployment or internal discussion, it can request to have the deployment to their wikis delayed to October 1, if they have sensible, consistent with the project, actionable, realistic feedback to oppose (at the development team's appreciation).

You will also be able to opt-out this change in your preferences.

Concerning Watchlists

Starting on September 19, the Beta feature will have a new option. Watchlists will have all filters available now on the Beta Recent Changes improvements.

If you have already activated the Beta feature "New filters for edit review", you have no action to take. If you haven't activated the Beta feature "New filters for edit review" and you want to try the filters on Watchlists, please go to your Beta preferences on September 19.

How to be ready

Please share this announcement!

Do you use Gadgets that change things on your RecentChanges or Watchlist pages, or have you customized them with scripts or CSS? You may have to make some changes to your configuration. Despite the fact that we have tried to take most cases into consideration, some configurations may break. The Beta phase is a great opportunity to have a look at local scripts and gadgets: some of them may be replaced by native features from the Beta feature.

Please ping me if you have questions.

On behalf of the Global Collaboration team, Trizek (WMF) 15:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

I think it should support the translate extension before making it default. Stryn (talk) 16:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)