User talk:Deryck Chan

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New Tech Ambassadors Phabricator board[edit]

Hello!

You have listed yourself as an active Tech Ambassador, thank you for that!

We have recently set up a board on Phabricator so that you can learn about tasks and updates that are potentially interesting for your community, and take action when necessary. During the pilot phase we are currently in, to avoid confusion, only Wikimedia Foundation's Community Liaisons will mark tasks so that they end up in the various columns. Thanks for your understanding!

Please follow this Phabricator board (learn how to). You'll receive "notifications" for updates in all tasks listed there. In case you choose to receive them as email; we currently expect the volume to be fairly low, but in any case you can learn how to manage it.

If you have any feedback about this board, please leave your questions and comments on the Ambassadors talk page.

All the best, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Next steps for the wish “confirmation prompt for the rollback link”[edit]

Logo Feedback round in the Technical Wishes project.png

Hello, a while ago you participated in a feedback round about a proposal how accidental clicks on the rollback link could be avoided. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and ideas!
Looking at the feedback and the rollback situation in different wikis, the development team decided how to approach this wish: As a default, most wikis won’t have a confirmation. But users who wish to have one, can enable it in their preferences, which will add a confirmation prompt to the rollback link on the diff page and on the list pages. The prompt won’t be a pop-up, but an inline prompt like for the thanks confirmation. You can read more about the planned solution and what influenced this decision on the project page. -- Best, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 09:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Community Wishlist Survey[edit]

Hi,

You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania 2019[edit]

Hi Deryck,

How are you? As you've presented in previous Wikimanias, would you happen to know if scholarship applications have opened? I remember they used to be around this time of year previously.

Thanks,
cmɢʟee::τaʟκ 13:59, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think it opens in February. See wikimania.wikimedia.org . Deryckchan (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Deryck. I'll look out for it. cmɢʟee::τaʟκ 17:39, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CivilServant Research Summit: Partial scholarship waitlist[edit]

Hello Deryck,

Thank you again for your interest in attending CivilServant's Research Summit in Stockholm on August 19th and for your application for a partial scholarship.

We were overwhelmed with the caliber of applicants, each of whom have demonstrated tremendous commitment to their Wikipedia projects and many of whom have over a decade of experience and leadership in their communities.

We are delighted to give you a spot to join us at the Summit. However, due to the large response and because we had to prioritize applications received by June 10th, we are not able to offer you a partial scholarship at this time. We hope it is okay, however, to add your name to a waitlist in case an additional scholarship becomes available (if declined by another participant). We will follow up in a week's time to let you know if that is the case.

In the meantime please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.

Thanks so much, --Juliakamin(cs) (talk) 18:54, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Juliakamin(cs). Let me know if you have further details. Deryck C. 16:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Deryck. I got your note and - yes - we do have space left in the Summit so we would love your wife to join us. Can you ask her to DM me her email address so I can include her on communications (coordinating details, etc.)? (And, for that matter, would it be possible to DM me your email address as well?) Thanks! --Juliakamin(cs) (talk) 14:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:香港獨立萬歲[edit]

Hello, Deryck Chan. Nice to meet you. I want to ask you a question. I am reviewing lock of user 香港獨立萬歲. Regarding this user, I would like to ask you what the community on zh-yuewiki thinks of this user and how he edited on zh-yuewiki. It would be very helpful for me to answer, and I would also appreciate it. Thank you. --Sotiale (talk) 04:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sotiale: Thanks for asking. I think the latest consensus at the Cantonese Wikipedia regarding this user is that we understand why the Chinese Wikipedia and Commons have opted to ban this user, but as far as the Cantonese Wikipedia is concerned we will welcome this user back anytime (see yue:Wikipedia:管理員留言板/2020年#希望各位管理員幫吓我). Indeed I understood from Ruslik0 that the user is not forbidden to have a clean start at Cantonese Wikipedia under a different username as long as said person does not participate in the Chinese Wikipedia or Commons. However, as far as I'm aware, this person has not taken up the offer. I would welcome a review of his global lock. Deryck C. 23:30, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Community Wishlist Survey 2021: Invitation[edit]

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021[edit]

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of Functions followup[edit]

Hi there, I'm a researcher for the Wikilambda project. Last month we held a naming contest and I'm following up with those who voted to see if you might be willing to provide some feedback to help guide the project.

This would be a 45 minute conversation about your past experience with other Wikimedia projects and thoughts about the future of this new initiative. I'm hoping to gather a wide range of perspectives so I'd be interested in your opinion regardless of whether you plan to have further involvement.

As a way of saying thanks, the research team is offering a $35 gift card (in your local currency) for participation. We could chat by phone or through a website for audio conferencing.

If you're interested just pick a time slot from this calendar link:
https://wikilambda-voter.youcanbook.me

Hope to hear from you soon!

// jeff (design researcher) (talk) 08:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extensive range blocks[edit]

Hello, Deryck. It has become a grave matter of concern that extensive range blocks are now imposed upon the largest ISPs (both landlines and mobile networks) in Hong Kong. As you may know many Hong Kong Wikipedians do not contribute to the Wikipedia encyclopedia project over fixed accounts now since by doing so their edit history may easily be tracked down (to the extent that some editors already shy away from putting Hong Kong in the country field in infobox, even though this word is never entirely synonymous with independent sovereign nations). The recently imposed extensive range blocks across so many different, and largest, networks have meant many dedicated Hong Kong editors are now excluded from contributing to the project. Is there any way that a. these range blocks may be lifted, b. the admins can be convinced this isn't meatpuppetry but out of genuine concern, and c. fellow Wikipedians may operate from multiple, time-limited accounts if editing from semi-static IPs is no longer considered an option because of the extensiveness of range blocks? 219.76.24.215 12:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can see there's a rangeblock on your IP range on the English Wikipedia and presume you've come to my talk-page on Meta because you have been following relevant discussions there. As I wrote before at en:Talk:List of lighthouses in China, it is in the interests of an editor's anonymity to create an account so their IPs and therefore offline identities won't be exposed to external authorities. For as long as editors like you don't create an account, there will never be accurate data on how many of you there are who are potentially affected and we can't get a grip on the problem. Deryck C. 13:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that people don't want to be tracked down. If they edit from permanent accounts they expose themselves with their edit histories. Would point c. above be a possible way forward? 219.76.24.202 10:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I wrote before, creating an account helps you dissociate your real-life identity from your on-wiki identity if you so wish (see e.g. w:Wikipedia:Why create an account?#Username and privacy). Participation in on-wiki negotiations requires trust between editors, which is built through the track records of one's edit history. It is (English) Wikipedia policy that each account may only be used by one person, and each person may only have one account except in specified circumstances (w:Wikipedia:Multiple accounts). If you do not want to accept such accountability amongst fellow editors, then I'm afraid you will not be afforded the privilege of having your voice counted in editorial disputes. Deryck C. 13:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be possible for editors from this country to conceal from the authorities their previous time-limited accounts, if they opt for new accounts from time to time to conceal their edit histories which are sensitive to the authorities? Have Wikimedia got any policies on how they deal with requests from law enforcement authorities? You certainly wouldn't want edit histories admitted as evidence in trials would you? Hctts 10:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile I found this article-specific a lot more helpful and much less damaging than blanket extensive blocks. [1] Hctts 13:21, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if you are the same person as any of the comments above, so I'm unsure about the context of your question. In any case, the relevant guidance can be found at w:WP:SOCKLEGIT and foundation:Privacy_policy#share-legal-reasons. Deryck C. 15:19, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'd consider concealability from the authorities a legitimate reason to sock as far as WP:Socklegit has provided for. The green light is clear enough - given that even editing within a certain social circle would be a legitimate reason to sock according to Socklegit. But then on the other hand Wikip/media would have to have a clear(er) policy on, say, for how long IP addresses and other information would be retained, and whether they'd share any information with some certain jurisdictions. Hctts 11:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Hctts: This is best taken up by contacting WMF Trust & Safety by email (ca at wikimedia dot org). Deryck C. 15:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

一則請求[edit]

哈佬,我知呢度係原維基 大部分都係用英文去溝通,我呢度就用粵文去溝通算。話說,我早年(2017年)寫《我是歌手》系列嘅文嗰陣遇到一啲非議,喺中粵英 維基都發生過。而我早年啱啱入嚟維基嗰陣未熟習啲規矩,所以係英維都做過啲冇禮嘅嘢,之後就被個度嘅管理員indef封咗,佢哋話就話我嘅英文能力欠奉(睇呢度),同埋話我一路繼續加埋啲冇參考嘅內容(而實則上嗰啲咁嘅歌單 作詞人 作曲家 編曲家 歌名 全部都係照搬節目內容),一向唔適宜喺嗰個位加,而佢哋外行人又唔明 就亂咁掛模,之後我拎走個模 再補番內容,就畀佢哋屈我一路加埋啲unsourced content(即係佢哋做法官僚)。之後我嗰陣就轉咗嚟寫粵語維基,同樣都係因為中維嗰陣觀感唔好,再加埋入過嚟粵維嘅Dabao嚟搞針對(同上面條link一樣)(雖然嗰個Dabao去到2021年呢家都繼續咁做 冇停過),佢都冇實質證據證明啲ip係我嚟(即係誣告),就亂咁憑HK IP威嚇話要global lock埋我(呢句係en wiki封我嗰個Alex Shih講嘅)(我估你應該睇到佢哋兩個明顯係玩緊夾殺 所以我依家先主力寫粵語維基)。

所以,依家時隔4年,我都仔細睇過維基旗下嘅方針同指引,我又見你係英文維基嘅管理員,所以請求睇下可唔可以解封我en wiki個邊。我個邊嘅討論頁都被鎖咗,申訴唔到。多謝。我唔知喺呢度申唔申訴到,定抑或要用電郵先得,我都打住段字先。特克斯特 (talk) 18:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

順帶睇埋:嗰位叫Alex Shih都試過用“英文程度似乎不足夠參與複雜的編輯”去封埋其他編輯者,嗰個係叫JassonTodd 佢依家都喺中文維基有唔錯嘅編輯,都係唔合理咁畀Alex indef封咗。所以喺呢度我懇請您去睇下佢用嗰個理由封我去indef程度罰則係實在太重。特克斯特 (talk) 18:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

特克斯特:我解封咗。睇返你俾人封嘅過程,直接 indef 相對稀有,而其他編輯又話係 indef block 唔係 permanent ban,英維慣例係一至兩年後可以申請解封。既然事隔四年,Alex Shih 2019 年又已經退隱,所以我認為可以俾個機會你,而 Alex 點諗我就唔評論喇。我喺你英維傾偈版留咗言,希望你小心行事。Alex 當年直接 indef 你或者過份重手,之後另一個編輯話你唔登入修改,究竟係咪真係你就只有你自己先知,但係都係四年前嘅事喇。緊要嘅係,英文維基百科對參加者嘅英文能力要求好高,對文章內容同引用來源嘅準則亦好高,如果有其他編者唔滿意你嘅貢獻,希望你從善如流。Deryck C. 22:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

後加:元維基冇官方語文,溝通到就得。你知道我同你都識粵文,喺度用粵文溝通,符合元維基作為一個「跨語言站點」嘅習俗。Deryck C. 22:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK,了解,我依家先睇到。另外可唔可以幫我歸檔埋en:User talk:特克斯特?(好似粵維咁歸檔 有個合仔咁樣)我應該唔會喺個度活躍啦。特克斯特 (talk) 11:16, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

滾攪[edit]

以下係喺meta提交俾粵維行政員同其他持份者等可公開閱覽嘅書面檔案,本編相信過往提及咗嘅預見等係會繼續發展,亦會根據返事態變化以為咗WM、社群同wiki長久嘅方向,適時繼續盡力公開提交予所有有心人閱覽嘅意見書,以忠實返飽經風塵嘅wiki同多社區等一路仲未徹底遺忘嘅core value。以下先提交嘅係本編本次意見書第一版本。


呢度先向閣下表示對唔住:喺本編可能無意但表面有些微觸及部分角色嘅情況下、發表咗一啲本編相信本編經已嚴格遵守維基人各種唔成文同成文嘅傳統&守則&規例等而做出嘅編輯活動,希望閣下理解本編僅為恪守返前述各項同堅持咗獨立思考等而公開留低記錄在(維基站點)案,而為便後來人有意深入嘅時候可徹底了解返唔同時期所有嘅唔同意見同記錄等。希望閣下可理解。

謹此之後,本編呢度可能係對閣下係第一次正式嘅留言而並唔係選擇咗喺任意分站點度做出,因為本編認為以下嘅留言、係可關乎咗部分關聯到meta同cantonses wiki兼可能仲有wiki站外一啲對於wiki瀏覽者並唔了解而正可能發生咁嘅情況,呢啲會係同由WMF近排做出影響咗關聯語文社區啲行動同宣佈、會有相當大嘅pattern相似度同關聯度可尋,如本編亦將呢次留言,作為一個含粵維、中維同絕對獨立嘅成員身份所遞交嘅準意見書,如條件公正允許,期望喺公正咁轉交可絕對信賴同持平審視嘅WMF持份者嘅時候,同樣作為一份對應嘅記錄、以反映呢個變化時期一啲獨立嘅意見在案:

謹先附上關鍵本站記錄,作為本編在案言論基礎同繼續嘅基礎,表明本編同部分可能本編未有獲受權而嘗試歸結嘅意見;如有必要而條件公正允許、可進一步尋求本編可能代表嘅其他人身嘅獨立意見,並補充返去本編本在案下方或其他可公開鏈接參考嘅位置;

本編相信本編牽涉上述附上嘅記錄度可能針對本編發言嘅總結、係完全唔合乎本編確實發言嗰時經已清晰明言嘅所有睇法同總結,上述附上嘅記錄度任何其他可能關聯而有被人身針對嘅發言人嘅總結,亦相信同本編經已喺度強調嘅一樣、並唔係事實全貌,牽涉上述附上嘅記錄度無論係針對本編或其他人身針對嘅任何推斷亦無任何嘅事實基礎會支持返。

而本編相信牽涉上述附上嘅記錄度可能針對本編或其他人身針對嘅人士,由記錄可見,所產生嘅推斷、評價或辨識嘅成個過程,經已牽涉、抵觸到咗維基無論分站或主站都明文同社區周知嘅禁止起底(暴露人身)等全域通用法則,直接咁同WMF近排所關注而採取咗行動嘅針對目標係有相當嘅吻合度,即係可能利用接觸同暴露編輯實際身份背景等嘅方法取代站內衡常編輯活動方式去到達成編輯目的——呢一點相信經已同建設維基百科嘅目標係背道而馳、係可作為粵維活動進程中一重大記錄而在案嘅。

本編亦遺憾認為,WMF即使回應咗眾望而直接做出一個值得中維同關聯社群度銘記嘅決定,實際上係未有根本扭轉到唔論係WMF、關聯社群或本編由唔同方面同角度度所認知同指出過嘅相當多嘅問題,包括咗本編經已喺粵維仲有中維等站點度唔論依家或舊底所留低過嘅一啲睇法同嘗試總結等,

即係似一致而勢如群狼方式參與唔同議案進程嘅模式,同埋一致而直接針對特定人身同人身站內關聯活動達致圍攻嘅形勢方式,係喺關聯社區部分成員認識度根深蒂固咗、而唔再係WMF今次所針對少數嘅「專利」,由牽涉上述記錄同本編所見等、係認為呢點將繼續成為由WMF行動結果公佈人所指出嘅一樣長久纏繞著社區嘅負面課題。

而同一時間對於呢啲情況,維基唔論全域或分站,喺先察、制衡、干預同補救等方面可應對嘅自治機制同社群理解環境度,就著上述同依家本編獨立己見嘅認識睇,相信係非常之落後同不足而導向著同WM目標徹底唔同嘅方向——一個並唔係本編獨立己見嘅認識係以共建個自由、全面而包容咁吸納唔同文明既有知識嘅平台為目標,而淪為咗係群體化以共建呢個時代部分群體唯一認識同力量所佔有嘅平台為目標,呢點亦係本編相信需要後續更多其他方面嘅參與同制約去到應對返。

本編相信,唔論本編亦或上述附上嘅記錄度可能被針對人身嘅人士,都唔會自居成為上述本編所提出問題嘅參與人之一,亦期望本編上述附上嘅記錄度嘅直接留低記錄人等、唔會徹底淪入咗上述本編所提出問題嘅過程度,因為呢個過程係仲可以有扭轉嘅空間同未來、只要係WM所期望嘅終極目標自身仲繼續由到我哋持續發掘同把握返,

希望閣下同其他閱者、同本編潛在最後需予提交直接閱覽嘅關聯人等,可立即理解到本編上述所提出同留低嘅記錄,並可因應循例同實際挑戰、轉變同後續,而做出可確實保證到後續邁向確實合乎WM最後目標嘅方向,亦可迴避咗上述所提出嘅各樣問題同未來可出現嘅危關。

本編亦願意祝愿維基全體包括上述提及嘅各關聯人,可持續共議向前而唔需要再討論檢視依家時刻、纏繞著WM同社區全體嘅長久問題,但願閣下、持份者同其他本編期望理解嘅各方,都可明晰本編謹記錄在案以上嘅記錄,以協助返維基同我哋所愛同珍視嘅事物,都可以一齊協力互進帶攜後世。


謹上 你忠實嘅 Longway22 27 September 2021 (UTC)(喺本站嘅初始記錄時間)


私人補充返:唔論個人嘅心情或睇法同各位具行政員角色嘅維基人有幾多分別,本編希望有牽涉角色嘅維基人喺明白到以上本編意圖表明嘅同時,可避免各角色本身嘅決定會係正有其他未必合乎wiki核心價值同WMF呢次發佈度講明咗嘅潛在利益或立場等所影響——亦希望如果一定係要尋找一個人身嘅視角(標籤化)去到睇待返本編依家嘅留底,謹建議以「User:維基百科最忠誠的反對者」作為參照(雖然本編亦相信同呢位維基人都係有各自獨立嘅思考),

本編謹慎思考再後,亦推薦返若果有意繼續了解唔同情況,可聯繫呢位User徵求意向、將呢位嘅一啲有深度同具參照意義嘅睇法再整理作為另一獨立意見書備察,因為公開記錄度目前所見係得呢位同本編,都有非常清晰同嚴謹咁貫徹咗一個維基人嘅準則價值、持續咁記錄低呢個時刻真正嘅隱憂同思考,呢啲都應該係持份者們可以審視嘅記錄。(當然聯繫返呢位嘅時候,都最好再徵求返呢位嘅獨立意見)即使兩個嘅專注同涉足等並唔係一致,但喺呢次可牽涉返跨站長遠福祉嘅時間點度,謹認為係有必要聯繫返唔同嘅重要異議角度去為未來挑戰而繼續裝備返維基人嘅視野同廣度。

補充謹如上,你同全體維基人們忠實嘅 Longway22 (talk) 00:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


補充:上述記錄或可能都仲會有涵蓋唔完整嘅地方,就似唔係話本編同User:維基百科最忠誠的反對者閣下外、相信都有唔少好似WMF提及嘅唔知名維基人,都有多角度睇到舊底同依家同未來都發生著嘅情況,呢度再追加推薦返另一位部分議題度本編都試過副知嘅User:Wpcpey閣下,本編信賴亦係一個涉獵唔同方面而相當有見地嘅獨立維基人。當然聯繫返呢位嘅時候,都最好再徵求返呢位嘅獨立意見。如有其他不足但願閣下同各維基人都多多包涵,願意繼續共議各種發展咁嘅課題同路線。——Longway22 (talk) 04:31, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


  • @Deryck Chan and Shinjiman:,鑑於有關可能正有進一步直接訴諸人身可能具威脅同騷擾等嘅意圖活動,唯有臨時請求緊急指示,同係咪可副知其他可信賴同公允檢視嘅人士或部門等?感覺到正受到合乎維基騷擾威脅指引所指出嘅威脅活動而影響本編繼續參與嘅安全感同意欲,如容許請容許本編唔再參與任何可受對方跟踪同針對嘅維基活動、同請確保有關機制發展可繼續改進以保障其他維基人唔會面對返同樣嘅可能威脅。——Longway22 (talk) 13:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)另請容許本編副知@WikiCantona: 因為經可能呢次記錄,會明確會有長期針對多個人身嘅跟貼活動,而會影響多個維基人專注嘅唔同專業方面同影響維基百科嘅構築進路,同時亦希望唔論本編或wikicantona或其他可能會被針對嘅獨立維基人成員,可繼續堅持維基人嘅價值觀、盡力保持公允同克制並避免到陷入如維基呢次行動所明確必須轉變嘅方向——可以感覺到呢次記錄變化夾前邊脈絡嘅變化、係會有之前似ROY17紛擾部分嘅觀感度,呢部分暫時希望先同上述意見書分開記錄在案,呢一部分授權由行政員決定係咪同上述擺埋一齊嘅部分。同時本編會獨立保留返根據變化再修正本次意見書或增加其他文本嘅選擇。——Longway22[reply]
    • 睇晒你嘅留言,多謝分享。我想答嘅嘢,喺粵維幾個相關討論已經講晒。大家睇到嘅唔係有一個特定派系大一統打壓異己,而係你因為一兩個編輯拗撬唔同意個結果,就上綱上線走去反對同你打對台嘅編者嘅其他行動,同埋支持佢哋嘅編者。而家粵維嗰種名從主人、文章主要作者喺冇社群擴大共識嘅時候有優勢嘅做法,正係抗衡大一統嘅政策,仲有收錄標準裡面嘅「粵地豁免」。要繼續維繫呢個文化,就要編輯喺唔同議題之間互相讓步。Deryck C. 10:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Sound Logo project[edit]

Wikimedia Sound Logo project

Hello, the Wikimedia sound logo project is in an early development phase -- this stage is for asking all kinds of questions, developing and fielding ideas, finding themes and shaping the direction of the project. Here is a link to the meta page for the project: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Sound_Logo

Your input is welcome. Thank you.

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 15:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Victor, thanks for the message. I'd be interested to know the outcome, though I don't think I have any expertise or ideas to contribute at this stage. Deryck C. 18:25, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Climate denial review[edit]

Hello! As part of the cross-wiki climate denial review, a request was made on the Chinese Wikipedia to remove and update some content. For instance, the article now contains a comparison of Al Gore to Hitler. There has not been much of a response. I was wondering if you would be willing to have a look at the article? Femke (talk) 10:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Femkemilene: I've edited the "causes" section and replied to the discussions on Meta and the article talk page. I should warn you that I have a bit of a reputation as a cross-wiki POV warrior on zh.wp: Standard Chinese is a language I can use fluently but zh.wp is not my main wiki of contribution, and most of my edits in the last few years have involved me parachuting into a hot topic on cross-wiki requests. So don't be too surprised if someone reverts me... Deryck C. 10:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]