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Traducción
Hola. Acabo de ver que has empezado a traducir WMF Global Ban Policy/es. Esto me genera dudas. Yo no soy europeo, como lo había dicho antes (y lo digo de nuevo por las dudas), y creo que desconozco si está bien traducido "Appeals". Desde donde vivo se dice "Apelaciones", pero para ti, ¿Está bien traducido lo que has puesto o de todas formas está bien? --Stïnger （会話） 01:23, 3 February 2019 (UTC).
- Hola Stïnger. Cuando traduzco, opto por no hacer traducciones literales. Tampoco es que me invente la traducción, pero obviamente escribo tal y como estoy acostumbrado a hablar :-) La razón por la que elijo "recursos" en vez de "apelaciones" es porque lo que se trata de indicar en esa sección es precisamente la no recurribilidad de la resolución. Además, donde yo vivo "apelación" es un tipo específico de recurso que resuelve un órgano judicial superior. Técnicamente podríamos hablar de "reposición", pero sería demasiado técnico incluso para mi zona geográfica salvo que tuviesen conocimientos de Derecho. Dicho esto, yo estoy a favor de hacer las traducciones lo más inclusivas posible para que podamos entender las páginas sin problemas, así que estoy abierto a sugerencias. Incluso podríamos renombrar la sección a "No recurribilidad", "No se pueden recurrir", "Irrecurribilidad" o algo parecido. Quizá podamos ocuparnos de estos pequeños detalles una vez hayamos terminado de traducir el texto completamente. ¿Cómo te suena "irrecurribilidad"? Un saludo y perdona por no contestar antes; he estado bastante fastidiado estos días y todavía no estoy bien del todo. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- No hay problema, espero que te mejores. Irrecurribilidad me parece un buen término; pero en cuanto lo que has dicho sobre "recursos" creo que eso ya acaba de aclarar la situación, por lo que podría quedar como está. Saludos. --Stïnger （会話） 12:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC).
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [1]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).
Meetings
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You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
RE: Felicidades
Gracias, Marco. Sí, estos días parece ser atareados debido a los numerosos casos que se ha de resolver, espero que para la mitad de mi período se aligeren las cosas :) Un saludo, --Galahad (sasageyo!)(esvoy) 04:46, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Removal of access
Hola Marco. Espero que estés bien. Quería pedirte que me retires el permiso de renombrador globlal. Al estar inactivo no puedo usar este permiso. Igualmente estoy en las lista de correo relacionadas con este permiso. Me gustaría abandonar dichas listas. Bueno, si no puedes o no es el lugar, avísame para poder solicitarlo en el lugar correcto. Un abrazo para ti, Jmvkrecords ⚜ (Intra talk) 12:02, 7 February 2019 (UTC).
- Hola Jmvkrecords. Espero que igualmente estés bien. Puedo ocuparme de todo lo que me pides. ¿Quieres que espere un poco para hacerlo efectivo, por si cambias de opinión? Un saludo, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:09, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Gracias Marco. Siempre tan gentil (!). El tiempo es una formalidad, y no hay prisa... aunque la petición sigue firme. Un abrazo, Jmvkrecords ⚜ (Intra talk) 23:41, 9 February 2019 (UTC).
- Hola de nuevo Jmvkrecords. Tras tu confirmación te he retirado el permiso de renombrador y te he vuelto a añadir el de autoverificado. Te he retirado igualmente de la lista de correo interna de renombradores de eswiki y pediré que te retiren de la lista de renombradores globales próximamente. Un saludo y gracias por tu tiempo. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:59, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Gracias Marco. Siempre tan gentil (!). El tiempo es una formalidad, y no hay prisa... aunque la petición sigue firme. Un abrazo, Jmvkrecords ⚜ (Intra talk) 23:41, 9 February 2019 (UTC).
Suggest "2306015" into AF/200
My thoughts only, though as a big lad you can make the decision, either to do it, or, to tell me to do it. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:55, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: Maybe it's lack of caffeine this morning but I'm trying to guess what 2306015 is. But given that you have more clue with filters than me, feel free to do whatever you think it is appropriate (although please don't leave me with the intrigue :-) ). Regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:10, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- the line "equals_to_any" and then look back to this page. I am being purposefully coy, otherwise I will catch you via IRC — billinghurst sDrewth 11:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Green light to do that from me & thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 17:33, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- the line "equals_to_any" and then look back to this page. I am being purposefully coy, otherwise I will catch you via IRC — billinghurst sDrewth 11:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can use the
amboxCSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you useamboxthere are classes you can use.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 February. It will be on all wikis from 14 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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18:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Wiki Jelajah writing competition
Dear MarcoAurelio, Wikimedia Indonesia will organise writing competition in Indonesian Wikipedia. I already made a request in meta. Could you please to set up the Central Notice? This is the link for the Central Notice request. Thank you Hillun Vilayl Napis (talk) 12:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. No promises though :-) —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Growth team updates #5
Welcome to the fifth newsletter for the new Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
New projects for discussion
We began the "Personalized first day" project with the welcome survey so that we could gather information about what newcomers are trying to accomplish. The next step is to use that information to create experiences that help the newcomers accomplish their goal – actually personalizing their first day. We asked for community thoughts in the previous newsletter, and after discussing with community members and amongst our team, we are now planning two projects as next steps: "engagement emails" and "newcomer homepage".
- Engagement emails: this project was first discussed positively by community members here back in September 2018, and the team how has bandwidth to pursue it. The idea is that newcomers who leave the wiki don't get encouraged to return to the wiki and edit. We can engage them through emails that send them the specific information they need to be successful – such as contact from a mentor, the impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?
- Newcomer homepage: we developed the idea for this project after analyzing the data from the welcome survey and EditorJourney datasets. We saw that many newcomers seem to be looking for a place to get started – a place that collects their past work, options for future work, and ways to learn more. We can build this place, and it can connect to the engagement emails. The content of both could be guided by what newcomers say they need during their welcome survey, and contain things like contact from a mentor, impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?
Initial reports on newcomer activity
We have published initial reports on each of the team's first two projects. These reports give the basic numbers from each project, and there are many more questions we will continue to answer in future reports. We're excited about these initial findings. They have already helped us define and design parts of our future projects.
- Welcome survey: the initial report on welcome survey responses is available here. Some of the main findings:
- Most users respond to the survey, giving it high response rates of 67% and 62% in Czech and Korean Wikipedias, respectively.
- The survey does not cause newcomers to be less likely to edit.
- The most common reason for creating an account in Korean Wikipedia is to read articles—not for editing—with 29% of Korean users giving that responses.
- Large numbers of respondents said they are interested in being contacted to get help with editing: 36% in Czech and 53% in Korean.
- Understanding first day: the initial report on what newcomers do on their first day is available here. Some of the main findings:
- Large numbers of users view help or policy pages on their first day: 42% in Czech and 28% in Korean.
- Large numbers of users view their own User or User Talk page on their first day: 34% in Czech and 39% in Korean.
- A majority of new users open an editor on their first day – but about a quarter of them do not go on to save an edit during that time.
Help panel deployment
The help panel was deployed in Czech and Korean Wikipedias on January 10. Over the past four weeks:
- About 400 newcomers in each wiki have seen the help panel button.
- About 20% of them open up the help panel.
- About 50% of those who open it up click on one of the links.
- About 5% of Czech users ask questions, and about 1% of Korean users ask questions.
We think that the 20% open rate and 50% click rate are strong numbers, showing that a lot of people are looking for help, and many want to help themselves by looking at help pages. The somewhat lower numbers of asking questions (especially in Korean Wikipedia) has caused us to consider new features to allow people to help themselves. We're going to be adding a search bar to the help panel next, which will allow users to type a search that only looks for pages in the Help and Wikipedia namespaces.
How to create a good feedback page?
What is the way to built a good help page? What blocks you when writing an help page? Your replies will help to create better help contents to newcomers, that would be used on Help panel.
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- This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [2]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [3]
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23:14, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.
We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.
We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.
We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.
We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.
You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
- First, sign up your group here.
- Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
- Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
- When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
- What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
- What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
- What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
- What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
- Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.
You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.
Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.
You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.
Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.
Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Debiit returned to its incorrect reversals
Hello, I have a general complaint with the editions that I have made in the pages of Tomoko Kawakami and recently Rica Fukami, as I mentioned before in the previous message, Debiit continues with its reversals by changing and adding the birth data of these voice actors from Japan without indicating sources that say that they were born in decades and I continue with that story. The only thing he does all the time is to conquer the vandalism having now that he is still having a war of editions with several users and the IPs that correct what was wrong in the past and yet they do not listen to us, he continues with his tantrum and insists on keep in the same previous edition.
See here all the articles visited in several languages, for example:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_Shindō
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/真堂圭
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/신도_케이
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشي_ناكامورا
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中村千绘
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ماساكو_كاتسكي
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кацуки,_Масако
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/勝生真沙子
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشيكا_أنزاي
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/安濟知佳
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%A4%E5%B1%B1%E8%B2%B4%E5%AF%A6%E5%AD%90
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimiko_Koyama
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B7%B1%E8%A6%8B%E6%A2%A8%E5%8A%A0
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
152.0.134.136 16:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.
We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.
We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.
We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.
We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.
You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
- First, sign up your group here.
- Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
- Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
- When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
- What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
- What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
- What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
- What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
- Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.
You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.
Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.
You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.
Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.
Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Debiit returned to its incorrect reversals
Hello, I have a general complaint with the editions that I have made in the pages of Tomoko Kawakami and recently Rica Fukami, as I mentioned before in the previous message, Debiit continues with its reversals by changing and adding the birth data of these voice actors from Japan without indicating sources that say that they were born in decades and I continue with that story. The only thing he does all the time is to conquer the vandalism having now that he is still having a war of editions with several users and the IPs that correct what was wrong in the past and yet they do not listen to us, he continues with his tantrum and insists on keep in the same previous edition.
See here all the articles visited in several languages, for example:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_Shindō
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/真堂圭
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/신도_케이
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشي_ناكامورا
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中村千绘
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ماساكو_كاتسكي
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кацуки,_Масако
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/勝生真沙子
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشيكا_أنزاي
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/安濟知佳
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%A4%E5%B1%B1%E8%B2%B4%E5%AF%A6%E5%AD%90
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimiko_Koyama
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B7%B1%E8%A6%8B%E6%A2%A8%E5%8A%A0
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_Fukami
152.0.134.136 16:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Scope
As mentioned in my LRfA statement, I mentioned that I would like to improve upon the filters available at Meta-Wiki, which means that I'll be editing those filters as well. I also plan to edit pages in the MediaWiki namespace as mentioned there. I say this because your approval statement mentioned my scope for "viewing abusefilters", which confused me. Thanks. Leaderboard (talk) 10:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry, I was in a bit of a rush to leave and I didn't wanted to keep you waiting for your RfA to be closed. I'll amend the statement shortly. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions. [4]
Changes later this week
- When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [5]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 February. It will be on all wikis from 28 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.
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21:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Renombrador global
Hola MarcoAurelio. Estos meses estuve considerando postularme para renombrador global (de hecho, aquí en meta he estado ayudando [6] (ver las secciones "Nasibili95" "MattLongCT" y "Luca M") pero hay un problema. Antes de que Jmvkrecords renunciara como renombrador global, le he hecho este comentario y me gustaría saber tu opinión al respecto. No me gusta que la gente censure borre el apoyo del otro; por eso dejé de tratar de ayudar en mi homewiki. --Stïnger （会話） 11:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC).
- Hola. Perdón por la tardanza en responder. Personalmente no me opongo a los comentarios constructivos en CNU de usuarios con experiencia que puedan ayudar a agilizar el funcionamiento de la página (aunque es:Special:Diff/112020860 creo que no era necesario pues si no hay problemas se realiza directamente). Por otra parte también entiendo que quizá por inercia o por eficacia (por si existe disparidad de criterios) se prefiera que CNU sea un lugar en la que solo exista conversación entre solicitantes y renombradores al estilo TAB. No sé qué posición tiene Ontzak al respecto pero asumo buena fe por su parte y descarto, por ende, el término censura; que casi siempre implica connotaciones negativas y peyorativas. Al respecto de tu cuestión sobre si postularte a renombrador, es una decisión personal y no puedo decirte sí o no. Deberás valorar si te gustaría el trabajo de renombrador y a partir de ahí será la comunidad la que decida si te otorga las herramientas o no. Un saludo, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:57, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Más adelante lo haría. Pero con esto yo considero que de momento no puedo hacerlo. Ninguna política impide que los usuarios con experiencia se expresen o ayuden en eswiki (en CNU por supuesto), asique considero como totalmente injustificado los borrados de aportes de usuarios que Ontzak hace. Yo entiendo muy bien la política de gr; pero de todas formas, gracias por tu comentario. --Stïnger （会話） 03:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC).