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* Hello, I wish the bot flag to be set on [[:commons:User:File Upload Bot (Korrigan)]], which I am going to use on Commons only, to upload FR pronunciation files. And maybe to offer a File Upload Service for French-speaking users. Thanks ! [[User:Korrigan|le Korrigan]] [[User_talk:Korrigan|<small>''bla''</small>]] 15:49, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Hello, I wish the bot flag to be set on [[:commons:User:File Upload Bot (Korrigan)]], which I am going to use on Commons only, to upload FR pronunciation files. And maybe to offer a File Upload Service for French-speaking users. Thanks ! [[User:Korrigan|le Korrigan]] [[User_talk:Korrigan|<small>''bla''</small>]] 15:49, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**did you ask the community at commons? where can i find it? [[User:Oscar|<font color="red">o</font><font color="orange">s</font><font color="yellow">c</font><font color="green">a</font><font color="blue">r</font>]] 23:35, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)


* Hello, i'm from the spanish wikipedia, and i'm asking for permission. Please give bot status to my bot [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Nyxbot Nyxbot]. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9#Bot.
* Hello, i'm from the spanish wikipedia, and i'm asking for permission. Please give bot status to my bot [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Nyxbot Nyxbot]. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9#Bot.
**done. [[User:Oscar|<font color="red">o</font><font color="orange">s</font><font color="yellow">c</font><font color="green">a</font><font color="blue">r</font>]] 23:35, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)


*Hello, I am an administrator of Turkish wikipedia, and I am requesting bot flag for my bot [[:tr:User:Dbl2010bot]]. The annoucement about this bot has been placed on our [http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:K%C3%B6y_%C3%A7esmesi#.C3.87al.C4.B1.C5.9Fmalar VillagePump]. It will be our first bot, and perform interwiki corrections, category moves, etc. TIA --[[m:User:Dbl2010|<font color=green><b>DBL2010</b></font>]]<sup>[[m:User_talk:Dbl2010|<font color="31639c">talk</font>]]</sup> 20:41, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Hello, I am an administrator of Turkish wikipedia, and I am requesting bot flag for my bot [[:tr:User:Dbl2010bot]]. The annoucement about this bot has been placed on our [http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:K%C3%B6y_%C3%A7esmesi#.C3.87al.C4.B1.C5.9Fmalar VillagePump]. It will be our first bot, and perform interwiki corrections, category moves, etc. TIA --[[m:User:Dbl2010|<font color=green><b>DBL2010</b></font>]]<sup>[[m:User_talk:Dbl2010|<font color="31639c">talk</font>]]</sup> 20:41, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**done. [[User:Oscar|<font color="red">o</font><font color="orange">s</font><font color="yellow">c</font><font color="green">a</font><font color="blue">r</font>]] 23:35, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)


*Hoi, I run the interwiki.py bot on the py wiktionary. People appreciate that I run the bot, but they have asked me to have it given botstatus. As on other wiktionaries, I run it with the user RobotGMwikt .. [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 21:33, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Hoi, I run the interwiki.py bot on the py wiktionary. People appreciate that I run the bot, but they have asked me to have it given botstatus. As on other wiktionaries, I run it with the user RobotGMwikt .. [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 21:33, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Gaeilge Wiki Admin problem

Hello, I want to draw your attention to the admin situation on the ga: wikipedia. At the moment, there is one active admin and bureaucrat, ga:Úsáideoir:Gabriel Beecham. It's been that way since the beginning of the wiki. There have been three seperate requests for adminship, see here: ga:Vicipéid:Riarthóirí(click 'plé' to see requests), as well as on the admins talk page, here: ga:Plé úsáideora:Gabriel Beecham. One person, even mae a request on his english page, here: en:User talk:Kwekubo. The first of these requests were made in Oct of last year. After all these numerous requets, some with votes and none with opposition, no one has been made an admin. Getting sick of the situation, I came here asking for adminship, which I got, but then, a steward took it away again, not realising(I didn't realise either) that the wiki already had a bureaucrat. The steward told me to ask the bureau if I wanted to be admin. I explained to the steward why I went here in the first place almost a week ago, the steward hasn't got back to me. So, I left another note on the bureau's page and in a seperate talk page he said he was in the process of writing me a note about adminship, that was three days ago. I have not got any note. So, hoping you understand the situation, will you please make me a bureaucrat so I can make more admins and hopefully clean up the ga wiki a bit. Thank You. My user page on ga is: ga:Úsáideoir:Dalta- Dalta 11:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Dalta, I'm not a steward but read your message by chance and have a question - on ga:Vicipéid:Riarthóirí there are some requests (without opposition nor support but I'm not sure) but not your own request and approval. If you could provide a link to your own vote, perhaps it would be helpful. --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 15:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well... For me, I'm not sure what should I do about your current situation. I understand both you, a user who doesn't know exactly what the bureaucrat is thinking, but I also understand Gabriel - the three admins got only two votes per self, that really isn't too much. If it is really urgent to make anyone a sysop/bureaucrat on your Wiki, first please wait four more days for a reply from Gabriel. If you won't get one, I'll try to contact him personally, and then do something about your current problem. If you have any issues with vandalism, inform us as quick as you can, and we won't hesitate to make you at least a sysop, to temporally deal with this problem. Datrio 16:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Alphaia - I had a request there, but I deleted it when I became admin the time previous. I must've forgot to revert the page. I think I had one vote. The thing about only havnig two votes, there's only about 5, maybe 10 at most active people on the Wiki and even they're not over-active(I don't mean to criticise them, I know not everyone can devote too much time to wikipedia), so getting two votes is preety good. And I think Gabriel can use his better judgement to see that these guys are hardly going to destroy the wikipedia, from their behaviour and words on the wiki, they clearly(especially Meabhar and myself) have a desire to improve the language and help the wiki as best they can. More bureaucrats and admins can only help the wiki, there's more likely to be someone around to improve things and two heads are better than one. Until I became admin, there was a huge amount of very basic grammar mistakes on most of the interface pages, there's still a large amount of grammar mistakes around that I've missed that need to be cleaned up. Some of these have even been pointed out and he doesn't correct them(I think one, maybe two exceptions to this). I understand your action Datrio, thanks for looking into it. - Dalta 18:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I'm Meabhar who has been requesting admin status since last October and beyond. I still have no clear indication of being appointed, though I was given it once, a password which stopped working after a period. I can say I have been the main contributor over long periods, as well as being a fluent native speaker, something the "original" admin is very clearly not. I say this as I want to clean up the site, make it comprehensible and pleasant to read, not to knock anyone. I gave my support to other candidates for admin, based on their contributions, but over the past year got very, very tired trying to have the site instructions, etc, corrected to a comprehensible form - the discussion takes place, in my case anyway, in Irish. I imagine the low number of votes is due, at least partially, to the fact there are few active Wikipedians in Irish, and some give up, certainly in terms of cleaning up the site, as we are told to go to Gabriel Beecham for status. And he has repeatedly ignored requests to grant status, repeatedly failed to act on corrections, including full pages of corrected instructional and interface material given repeatedly, over the past 9 months. And Gabriel was appointed before there was anything approaching a viable site. In summary, I wish to be appointed admin, and eventually Bureaucrat, as one of the most active, most fluent, writers who takes the trouble to correct even grammatical errors in much of our material to make it digestible. Incidentally, I have been less active lately, as I moved from the US to Ireland, and only this week am I getting my computer back. Meabhar 16:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I originally made Dalta an admin but Gabriel Beecham objected to this. Realising there was an active local bureaucrat on the wiki, I reverted myself since Stewards are not meant to act when the wiki already has a bureaucrat. I've spoken to Gabriel about this on IRC, and I believe he was intending to make Evertype an admin there. He has some concerns regarding other candidates, and about updating of the interface, which he wanted to do via the language.php file rather than the MediaWiki namespace. I think it would be best to try to discuss this within the community at ga since stewards are not meant to override the decisions of the local bureaucrats. Angela 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Then why doesn't he make Evertype an admin? I've no problem with someone other than me being made admin, but I would like a second bureaucrat there. Anyone to clean up the many interface problems. Any plans he has can be discussed with the new admins or before they're made admins. Wikipedia is supposed to be a democratic project? There's a clear desire to get another admin. No one's going to destroy the wiki or do anything to Gabriel. Gabriel's contribution has been recognised and is appreciated by all the Gaeilge Wikipedians. Now we want to move on, to do that we need to make more admins. By the way, Gabriel hasn't been seen there since he said he'ld write me that note, which also hasn't been seen(obviously). It makes discussion that bit harder. How long more do we have to wait to get action on this? - Dalta
Has Gabriel still not responded? Do any other stewards have an opinion on this? Angela 01:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well I asked on his userpages with links to here and I haven't seen him. It doesn't look good if someone doesn't answer in my opinion. He might just not have the time. Although he has editted a lot since than, so I am starting to doubt things. Waerth 13:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Excuse me for not having posted here sooner - I've been on and off ga, and there's been a message on my user page there saying that my time for dealing with Wikipedia affairs would be very limited - I have exams at the moment and will have very little time until the end of June. I emailed Evertype with regard to the request, and am waiting for him to get back to me or to post a reply at ga. To explain the situation with the interface to you, Dalta: corrections to almost all the MediaWiki messages have been made, but they are so numerous that it would be preferable to overwrite them all at once with a fresh version of the LanguageGa.php file. (At any rate, two of the namespaces need to be renamed, and this can only be done through the php file). A version has been ready at LanguageGa.php for months, and was graciously tested by Amgine, but the request for update seems to have gotten lost in Bugzilla. It's now quite out of date again, but as I've said I just wont have time to deal with it for the next fortnight. Perhaps you could try adjusting it, but the markup is quite different to wiki and you really need to be sure of what you're doing. --Kwekubo 13:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. I understand what the story is now. But, I expect things to get going in around two weeks and I would like at least one other admin, preferably a few to be around in case something like this happens again. And, I don't speak for Meabhar, he might have something else to say. - Dalta 13:03, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I recommand one of the three candidates to adminship ask to be a bureaucrat as well; ãnd the other admin candidate support him to be bureaucrat. If a bureaucrat is not doing his job, or refusing to do it in a small community where there will be obviously a limited number of editors, then, a bureaucrat is more detrimental than beneficial. Get a second one. Anthere 10:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The problem is that Gabriel is not responding to requests for administratorship, or if he is he is not communicating it. He is very quick to give his own often idiosyncratic version of Irish, and impose it on the site. He has repeatedly offered to take up offered versions of site instructions, prompts, etc, but has a pattern of then ignoring what is offered to him in real Irish, with, as a result, an interface that would scare off many Irish speakers - we do still exist, and care. We are all working on this project. I supported Evertype, as he has worked on the project consistently, even though he does not have fluent Irish, and his edits are mainly in the way of corections. Equally, I have no problem with Gabriel continuing. But I do have a problem with Gabriel refusing on his own admin requests for others, when there have been several longstanding unanswered requests for adminship to him, and apparently these can only go through him. And I agree with the note above from Anthere - in the case of ga, having one bureaucrat has proven detrimental to the wiki. Gabriel's contribution is acknowledged, but there needs to be imput to the site material from someone with fluent Irish - and I am willing to put it on record that Gabriel's Irish is anything but fluent despite his assertion on his own page. Meabhar. June 17, 2005.

Meabhar, I have never put forward at ga, at en or anywhere else that I am a fluent Irish speaker. This is why I have listened to and submitted to, by and large, the suggestions you and other users have made as regards the interface - you can see the results yourself at LanguageGa.php. I spent a lot of time working on this file, and it's even been tested, but it's now months out of date, and as I have said above it would be best to synchronise it with the latest version of Language.php before uploading it. If someone else wants to do that, let them do it - as I've said, I just don't have time for the next fortnight (I shouldn't even be here writing this). I'll explain now the situations with the three candidates seeking (or previously having sought) adminship. I've gone through some of this with Angela already, but here's a more complete version:
This is symptomatic of what is and has been my main problem with you seeking adminship at ga - you have on occasion acted and replied on innuendo rather than fact, to the detriment of the project, and you have a tendency to enforce your point of view in a hostile manner rather than discuss things. Take for example the Alba/Albain dispute, or ga:Athrú Creidimh/ga:Reifirméisean - you have more than once cut and pasted the contents of one page onto the other, rather than discuss the matter fully on the talk page first. This cuts the page history in half, and goes against key ideas about how Wikipedia accountability policy works. You know that that happens, but you keep on doing it. I do agree with you that Alba is the correct title, but saying that "tá breall ar aon duine a thugann Albain uirthi" (anyone who calls it Albain is making a fool of himself) and cutting and pasting is not justified given the near-universal use of Albain in dictionaries. You've called people "dim" because they use standard vocabulary from the most widely accepted dictionaries ("Alba ceartainm na tíre sin, cuma cad deir de Bhaldraithe, an Cumann Aistriúcháin, agus na daill a lean iad"). You've attacked a German Wikipedian for writing in English to invite ga.wikipedia to take part in the International writing contest. This is why I do not feel that you are ready to be an admin at ga at this time. But I think that you could be - you are an extremely prolific contributor, despite faults, and I hope that you will become again a central contributor to the project.
You've said that you now support Evertype as an admin - so would I, but he has not replied to three emails that I have sent him (this is probably a problem with my Yahoo! account), so I've left a note on his user page. His last ga edit was 6th February, though, and I'm not sure whether he's still interested.
I've already explained to the third candidate, Dalta, that I think he would be a good admin, but that he has only been at Wikipedia for a short time and should probably learn more before he is made one. I would be happy for him to be an admin soon, though.
I hope that this clears up the matter for the non-gaelophones (and indeed gaelophones) here. I really have to be going now, though, as study calls tomorrow... --Kwekubo 23:37, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
A few points to Gabriel and others. Firstly, I would not translate "breall" as you do- to me it has a significant difference from the meaning you apply to it. And where do I call someone dim? And I think few would agree I "attacked" a German wikipedian about the translational projects - I deleted the comment from my own page, with the comment, which I'll stand by, that we have to create more basic articles and correct matters at the site first as a priority. This doesn't stop you or anyone from working on the projects of the week, which to most will be somewhat esoteric articles still missing from the major language wikis. I'm glad you are seeing there is some sense in my stand on "Alba" - again, I always explain my alterations, except when it is fully explained and I have to rework it. And if I have made reversions without what you call full discussion, I think I can say the same for you and others. Aren't you at times assuming a mantle of authority on matters that is not conferred by being an admin. And I do object to you being the only arbiter of who's fit to be an admin, when you have for a long time not been responding to requests, and did not carry out work you undertook to, esp when it involved me spending considerable effort in producing respectable translations. As to language ability, ok, but I have noted in certain areas of the site, maybe not recently, people's rating of their lang abilities - let's leave it at that.
As regards "you are an extremely prolific contributor, despite faults, and I hope that you will become again a central contributor to the project", this makes me smile. It must be good to be without faults. And I think there will be lots of prolific contributors such as myself, esp if the site is cleaned up, and some admins appointed to help to do so. It seems you are worried by disagreements you've had with others, and are using that to block others. I understand it is official policy to give out adminship generously, but apparently not under your stewardship. And I think the site needs the imput of more than one person to effectively monitor a small site like ga:, as suggested by Anthere. Le meas - Meabhar 00:49, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I do agree entirely with Anthere's comment, not least because I don't have the time at the moment to do a proper job. At this point in time, though, Evertype is the only candidate for membership that I'm personally totally happy about being made a bureaucrat - I've already asked for his response. I don't want us to get bogged down in semantics and tone of statements, etc - I'll just say that some things that you say come across as hostile. As an admin I feel I've always tried to act following the community's wishes, not to impose my own opinions. I'm not faultless though - I'm only human, like yourself, a chara. And don't take my word for it - all the suggestions made on ga Bug reports are here on meta in LanguageGa.php - they just aren't live yet, for reasons I've explained above. I do not have a clue what you're referring to about disagreements I've had with others, I'm too tired at the moment to infer things properly and my computer is making very unhappy noises at me. Can we please stop arguing? To sum up all this section - I've contacted Evertype for a fourth time and am awaiting his response (delay is probably due to email problems). --Kwekubo 01:11, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Not sure whether this should be addressed here or not, but I can account for at least one interface problem in ga: and I know that the language module probably needs a refit. The {{subst}} function does not work in Irish Wikipedia; and taking a look at the language module, nor does the {{fothea}} ga replacement for {{subst}}--which I doubt is actually what we want there anyway, because the note beside it says substring rather than substitute which is what subst stands for. Bastique.
I can assure you, Bastique, that the whole thing is pretty unstable, and is liable to become more so unless things are taken carefully. The Template and Category namespaces need to be redifined, and a number of messages need to be added, removed or altered. See Bugzilla for a partial list. --Kwekubo 00:39, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This has reached my radar. I will respond shortly. Gabriel, I received no mail from your Yahoo account. Evertype 10:18, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am still willing to be an administrator, and I am willing to be a bureaucrat if that means corrections can be made to the interface more easily. I care very much about the interface, and in particular I care that it use standard terminology. Sábháil is the standard word for Save, for instance and it isn't Béarlachas (a bad coinage from English). Cuir i dTaisce (currently used for Save) is a technical term according to the standard terminology, but it means Put in a Cache. Which isn't Save. Múnla is a mould, not a template; for that we have another word, Teimpléid, which is, yes a borrowing from English. But then so are seacláid, buicéad, cairpéad, cóirséad, paicéad, pláinéad, seaicéad, and ticéad (chocolate, bucket, carpet, corset, packet, planet, jacket, and ticket).

Meabhar and I have disagreed about this point. My point is that the Vicipéid has been scorned by a number of Irish speakers, for a number of reasons. Poor grammar is one thing (and should be corrected); non-standard terminology in the interface is another (and should be corrected). While I am not a native speaker of Irish, I am one of Ireland's few professional book typesetters (I have typeset many books for Coiscéim)--you don't have to be a native speaker to know terminology and spelling. I am a fluent speaker of Irish, insofar as I am happy to speak Irish on a number of topics, and do so, daily, with authors while preparing their books, and so on.

I was also involved, in the early 1990s, in the localization of Mac OS 6 and 7 into Irish, which involved the creation of a great deal of computer interface vocabulary (working together with an expert in Irish dialects who did the actual coining of terms). Firefox, now available in Irish, uses, with few deviations, the same terminology, as do the computer terminology dictionaries.

I would not support Meabhar's elevation to administrator at this time. Native speaker or not, he doesn't use standard Irish consistently enough for him to be granted access to the interface. One may say led' thoil but one writes, certainly in an encyclopaedia, le do thoil. One may say Tá's aige but one writes tá a fhios aige. To be credible, the Vicipéid must use standard Irish. Standard Irish does not mean "fake" Irish, and doesn't mean that the articles can't be lively and interesting. But the public interface should not deviate from standard vocabulary.

When Meabhar has disagreed with me here, he has been a bit of a hothead. He left this on my user page: Measaim féin nach bhfuil cumas éisteachta ar E, ach gur fearr leis a bheith ar rá linne Gaeilgeoirí conas ár dteanga féin a labhairt agus a scríobh, gan é a bheith i ndán é a chur ar phár nóé a labhairt i gceart é féin. (I don't believe Evertype is able to listen, but that he would rather be telling us Irish-speakers how to speak and write our language, without being able to put it on paper or to speak it correctly himself.'--This should be gan é a bheith in ann í a chur ar phár nó í a labhairt i gceart, since teanga is a feminine noun.)

I would like to encourage Meabhar to do what he does best: to add value to the Vicipéid by writing and improving articles. I hope that when people do make corrections to spelling or terminology, that he won't take it personally, as he has seemed to do in the past.

I understand Meabhar's frustration with the correction of grammatical errors in the interface; that should be corrected. I do not wish to replace Gabriel; I too am busy. But I will help, if you like. Evertype 16:47, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just to reiterate, overwriting the MediaWiki messages manually would not be the most efficient way of updating the interface, as each one would have to be individually changed. The interface is more or less correct at LanguageGa.php, and that file could be uploaded today, but there have been several updates to Language.php since the file was last synchronised, and since the file needs to be uploaded anyway to redefine the templates, why not put all the changes into the php file and then overwrite all the MediaWiki messages at once? --Kwekubo 17:38, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Am I to be an admininstrator, then? I am happy to help with LanguageGa.php. I think the interface problems are probably the most significant. Evertype 15:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We have the willingness... let's get this underway. The interface problems are becoming annoying to even those of us who don't know more than 20 words (Yes! The vocabulary is growing!) of Irish. A. It would be nice to have characters with accents on the post window. Among other things... Bastique/Basteagh 12:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Since no-one's voiced any concerns after 48 hours, I've made Evertype a sysop at ga. --Kwekubo 17:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

hmmmm, so... might we consider the discussion to be archived ? Anthere

Not quite, I still don't like how Kwekubo is the only bureaucrat and it's his decision who becomes admin or not. If Wikipedia is democratic, then there should be about five different admins. Kwekubo didn't pick Meabhar, this is off his own bat, rather than the general populace of the wiki not wanting Meabhar. I'ld like another bureaucrat and all new admins to be decided by public vote. For such a small wiki, perhaps any vote against could be enough to stop the applicant becoming admin. Basically, it's Kwekubo's pet project, which isn't right, dar liom. - Dalta 01:11, 23 June 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not necessarily a democracy. That doesn't mean that I decide who becomes an admin, it means that consensus is more important than votes. At the moment, agreement has not been reached by public vote at ga.wikipedia as to other users seeking adminship. I am not the only one to have voiced concerns about Meabhar - Evertype clarified his opinions above, and a user from IP 83.70.234.66, whom I believe to be Dalta ([1]), removed Dalta's vote of support for Meabhar (I've since rolled back the edit and left a note on Dalta's talk page). All new admins are decided by discussion already, but the system has not been codified yet and is in a messy situation at the moment - there are no time limits for voting as of yet, for one thing, and the system will have to be brought into line. As to another bureaucrat - again, the place for discussion, nominations etc. is at ga and not here, but I see no reason not to have one, if there is a suitable candidate. --Kwekubo 12:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now I am confused. I thought I was being made a bureaucrat. Perhaps I am not clear on the terminology sysop/administrator/bureaucrat vs riarthóir/?/?. I am be interested in being able to help change the interface, to improve and standardize it. Clarification?
The various usertypes include: normal logged-in users; system operators (or sysops, admins), who can block users, lock pages, and edit locked pages; bureaucrats, sysops who can make other sysops; stewards, who practically have full access; and developers, who practically have more than full access. Since the interface is on locked MediaWiki messages, anyone from sysop upwards can alter the interface. But as I stated more than once on this page, there are a lot of messages that need updating. I am currently working on synchronising LanguageGa.php with the latest version, my exams having finished yesterday. When that is done, it will be uploaded and the MediaWiki messages present on the site will be overwritten. Then, further problems can be corrected by updating the MediaWiki messages, and LanguageGa.php can be updated in the background. But please don't make major changes to the MediaWiki messages yet, as they will be overwritten! --Kwekubo 18:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Meabhar had an application up to be an admin for almost a year, there were no objections. Granted there were no approvals either but that's because of the tiny community there. If you had an objection, it should have been made public rather than you hiding it away and just ignoring him when he asked to be an admin. Evertype had an application up for a good while too, since October also and has only just been made an admin. It's clearly up to you, rather than a consensus, whether or not someone becomes an admin. I'm not saying I should immediately become an admin, if you and Evertype have doubts then fair enough, but I would like another bureaucrat and for all admin decisions to be done through the admin page from now on. Since you think it's not properly managed, I'm going to create a discussion page on it to discuss how it should be managed properly. - Dalta 00:16, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There were, of course. objections to Meabhar's becoming an admin, most notably from Evertype and myself (Evertype, Meabhar and I were the only continuous contributors for many months). I have no place speaking for Evertype, but I have personally made my feelings crystal-clear - at the moment, Meabhar is too quick to hostility when dealing with disputes. There are several problems with the election system - there are no time limits and no rules about application or voting - but again the place to discuss these things are at ga, and not here. --Kwekubo 23:09, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Right so, go to ga:Vicipéid:Riarthóirí/Rialacha Faoi Vótáil for a discussion about the voting system. - Dalta 23:25, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gagana Samoa (Samoan-language Wikipedia)

I have made contributions to the above. Until very recently I was the only registered member to contribute an article. It could use a sysop or two. See

You may consider my record at WP Maori: http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaMI.htm

Robin Patterson 02:01, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Done. Yann 15:57, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I oppose. Please see some of the actions Robin Patterson has taken at this Wikipedia, he is not and has never been the only active user, and he strives primarily to fill it with English content. --Node ue 20:20, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Undone. Since there's seems to be some comflict, I would like to read some more comments from both of you. --Snowdog 21:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Japanese Wikibooks

I would like to request sysop-adminship on Japanese Wikibooks, with 5/5 supports through 9+ days voting on b:ja:Wikibooks:管理者への立候補#こいつぅ.--b:ja:user:こいつぅ(User:K12u)20:23, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

there is a bureaucrat on ja:wikibooks, called Tietew. did you appeal to him already? oscar 07:16, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I had not contacted him at that time. He left his contact e-mail address and the message he would be inactive for months. I mailed him a request yesterday. Now we are having a vote for/against my beraucrat adminship. I would request it later waiting for Tietew's operation or the vote result (that might require a further request for a bureaucrat set-sysop), again. Thanks.--K12u 06:08, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
good, we'll wait for the outcome of that :-) oscar 14:12, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Turkish Wikipedia

I am currently active user and administrator on Turkish Wikipedia. I am requesting bureaucrat status because we have only one bureaucrat (tr:User:Volkan) and he is not active (conversation at Angela's page), which causes delays on permission requests. TIA... --DBL2010talk 18:27, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

is there consensus on tr: about you becoming a bureaucrat there? also, i advise you to first discuss among each other the appointment of two new bureaucrats (instead of one), to avoid similar situations in the future. oscar 12:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There is no consensus yet about my status change. We are totally 9 administrators and almost 7 of them are missing. Users do not attend much on administrative things yet. :( So having a consensus on this is almost impossible. This idea came up from the user tr:User:Citrat, who is the latest administrator of tr wikipedia. This request is not urgent but necessary.--DBL2010talk 15:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
even if there are few people, i strongly recommend a joint decision on tr: first. oscar 15:14, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Võro Wikipedia

I am currently active user on Võro Wikipedia (fiu-vro:user:Võrok). I'm also user of Estonian (et:user:Võrok) and English (en:user:Võrolang) Wikipedias.
I am requesting admistrator status in Võro Vikipedia because Võro has no administrators yet (see fiu-vro:Wikipedia:Kõrraldajaq). Languages I can edit are: Võro, Estonian, English, Finnish, Russian, a bit Hungarian. -- Sulev Iva, e-mail juvasul@ut.ee Võrok 11:56, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Almost done. Just please provide me your user ID on that Wikipedia. Also, please translate the message I posted at fiu-vro:Wikipedia talk:Kõrraldajaq and post information on your new status in the local village pump. Datrio 12:10, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Removal of access

Self-deadminship, or removal of bot flags from your bot can be requested here, and will be granted immediately. You may be asked to prove you are the same user on meta as on your local wiki first. To request the removal of sysop access from another user, please gain consensus on this on your own wiki first. All discussion must be kept on your local wiki. When it is finished and there is a community consensus to desysop a user, a trusted person from that wiki should just provide a link here to the discussion and a very brief explanation of what the results of that were.

en:user:TheCustomOfLife recently changed usernames to en:User:Mike Halterman and wants to 'move' his sysop powers. I have promoted the new name, but the old one needs to be desysopped. Raul654 04:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Done. Datrio 08:11, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Requests for Bot status

To register a bot, please mention its name and the local wiki on which it will work here and make a public announcement about your intention on the local wiki and add a link to this annoucement here. The status will be given after one week if there is a rough approval.

Warning : for some big wikipedias, such as en:, you will need to specifically request an authorization over there. See en:Wikipedia talk:Bots for approval by a sysop and then ask for the bot flag here. Bot policy on Wiktionary (in particular en.wiktionary) is under discussion so bots should not be made without approval of the appropriate wiki. See Beer parlour.

Bot policies: de en fr simple (about bots, and how to get status)

Can you pse set my BotFlat aktive for af,de,he and perhaps en. Problems solve here. --FlaBot 14:40, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There are still objections to this at en, where it has been requested the bot run without a flag. I don't know about the situation at de, but since Fantasy removed its bot status there, I assume there was also a problem on that wiki. Has that been resolved? Angela 13:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
in de there was no problem with the bot. and in af-wiki and he-wiki i cant bot without a flag. I wrote a interwiki-link-tool and so i need a bot-status for putting in the links. I think the problems came from backlinks.py with had a problem and of an vandal-user with used a name looking simular to my bot-name. If you can set Bot-flag per language pse set all Flabot-flag excapt en-wiki back. --FlaBot 21:42, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Granted on en and es (just lookout for their spanking ;). I'll still wait a few days to see if there're no objections on vi and simple. Datrio 10:25, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I reapplied rights on en, I somehow didn't noticed the comment of Datrio and checked again on the talk pages. Totally agree with Datrio. --Snowdog 23:15, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
me 2 :-) oscar 01:10, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Done on vi. As Netoholic said, we'll wait some time until the community of this Wikipedia will give you permission to run the bot with a flag. Please list any further requests when you'll be done with them. Datrio 13:10, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
re: simple, would prefer to have it run without a flag, for at least a little while. -- Netoholic @ 05:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Hello, I wish the bot flag to be set on commons:User:File Upload Bot (Korrigan), which I am going to use on Commons only, to upload FR pronunciation files. And maybe to offer a File Upload Service for French-speaking users. Thanks ! le Korrigan bla 15:49, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • did you ask the community at commons? where can i find it? oscar 23:35, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Hello, I am an administrator of Turkish wikipedia, and I am requesting bot flag for my bot tr:User:Dbl2010bot. The annoucement about this bot has been placed on our VillagePump. It will be our first bot, and perform interwiki corrections, category moves, etc. TIA --DBL2010talk 20:41, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • done. oscar 23:35, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Hoi, I run the interwiki.py bot on the py wiktionary. People appreciate that I run the bot, but they have asked me to have it given botstatus. As on other wiktionaries, I run it with the user RobotGMwikt .. GerardM 21:33, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Current temporary sysops for emergency or technical purposes

Following a request, I have made BjarteSorensen, Datrio, and Aphaia temporary admins on the English Wikipedia for the purpose of editing the protected Wikimedia elections page for the duration of the election. This adminship should be used only for editing that page. Angela 13:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

en.wikibooks: Made myself tempsysop to block vandel and Amgine to clean up vandalism. Waerth 06:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

de-sysopped myself waiting for amgine. Waerth 06:56, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

(note to myself .... undo in 2 or 3 hours or so)

I've granted myself temporary sysop status on the Polish Wikimedia projects to translate information about the 2005 elections in the MediaWiki namespace. Datrio 08:47, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Done on Wikipedia and Wikibooks, I'll do it later on Wikinews, Wikiquote and Wiktionary. Datrio 10:18, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Malayalam Wikipedia

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