Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Miscellaneous/Kartographer icon improvements

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Icons urgently needed for Wikimedia maps
Some icons currently available, but of little use to Wikimedia maps
Currently, a skyscraper is an office, a capitol building is a town hall, a hotel is a bed, a church is a cross, and banks are credit cards?
  • Problem: There is no one clear set of icons dedicated to Wikimedia maps. Three things need to happen – (1) an established set of icons particular to Wikimedia mapping needs, (2) the rewriting needed in order to add this set of icons, and (3) better support to more easily add and modify icons in the future.
  • Background: Kartographer-based Mapframe maps work wonders to easily show maps in Wikipedia infoboxes and beyond. However the mapping tool really suffers from a lack of identifying icons. Especially for maps that show numerous features, editors are having to be creative to come up with icons that just barely associate with their topics. This is because MediaWiki uses an obsolete version of Maki icons, but even that still wouldn't fix all the problems relevant to Wikimedia spaces. The Maki icon set was designed for maps, though not for Wikimedia. Therefore it has numerous icons useless to Wikimedia spaces, and lacks icons essential to mapping here. There are at least 11 unclear icons, and at least 47 missing icons key to mapping here.
Other problems include, for accessibility, making more options for legibility. Right now, icons only display white. Icons should be able to be at least colored black, if not more colors, for increased contrast when the marker color is set to a lighter color. Markers should also have options for shapes other than the default teardrop shape, to allow for differentiation when using grayscale maps and for people with low color recognition (see task T131618).
  • Who would benefit: Innumerous Wikimedia spaces, primarily Wikipedia and Wikivoyage, but including numerous unique projects like Wiki Loves Monuments and Wiki Loves Earth, which need good mapping.
  • Proposed solution: Developing an additional entirely new set of icons, including many of the below missing or unclear examples:
Part one: coding
  • Code to allow for easy icon additions and improvements. This needs to happen now, and likely as Kartographer becomes more widespread on WMF projects, future changes will be necessary.
Part two: icon/marker formatting
  • Icons, currently only available in white, should be available at least in black as well, for increased contrast when marker-color is set to a light color
  • Markers should have more shape options behind the tear-drop shape.
Part three: fixing unclear icons
Part four: adding missing icons
  • More comments: The above set of icons proposed are only ones I have found immediately relevant; others in the current Maki set or elsewhere may prove to be as well. Careful care needs to be taken to ensure a non-Western view, as some instances of map icon bias have already been pointed out.
How this should best be solved needs investigation, whether it be adopting later Maki items, WMF or community creating new icons, utilizing existing free Commons files, or a combination of those options. Nevertheless, the technical function of adding and modifying icons needs to take place.

Discussion

  • I support this, because one of most painful limitation is task T141335 the impossibility to use 3 digits on markers. --Andyrom75 (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I support this, since this issue already lead to quite a lot of discussions on Wikivoyage. --Nw520 (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
  • It would be useful to have access to the MIL-STD-2525D and APP-6D installation icons, at the very least. Other subsets like Activities would also be useful.

Voting

  • Support Support It seems to be a minor fix that can return a huge impact for all project. I'm all for it. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 19:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 19:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support DerFussi 19:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Braveheidi (talk) 21:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sabas88 (talk) 21:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Huge improvement mainly for Wikivoyage but also for other wikis. Nw520 (talk) 22:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Evad37 (talk) 23:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Don-vip (talk) 23:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support -Another Believer (talk) 00:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Alkari (talk) 01:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Pharos (talk) 02:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · 04:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ottawajin (talk) 05:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Ita140188 (talk) 05:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Maps are important and need to be improved! :) OrCer (talk) 10:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 10:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Clarinetjo (talk) 12:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support I don't see why not, it would only be a benefit to maps on Wikimedia websites. As a frequent mapframe user, I've often have to make do with the wrong icon. epicgenius (talk) 14:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jts1882 (talk) 14:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Absolutely. Ján Kepler (talk) 14:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Urhixidur (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Supportputnik 18:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Create or give the author the possibility to upload icons TheAmerikaner (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support NMaia (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support YesY will improve every language Wikipedia, and Commons, and Wikidata in a visible way YesY reduces the cultural bias of the limited icon set YesY makes the Wikimedia platform more attractive to the off-wiki mapping community YesY choosing icons is a fun beginner activity in outreach YesY Wikipedia's maps are awesome and should look awesome. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:35, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support - Darwin Ahoy! 02:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support This is something nice to see Em-mustapha User | talk 06:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support JAn Dudík (talk) 08:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support carlinmack (talk) 14:35, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Libcub (talk) 19:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:32, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Srđan (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Michaelelijahtanuwijaya (talk) 03:17, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Strong support. BoldLuis (talk) 15:33, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Husky (talk) 16:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support czar 18:30, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support JonathanLa (talk) 18:53, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support expecially for 3 digits --Andyrom75 (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Xnet1234 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support  Michael Z. 2020-12-11 23:59 z 23:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Francois-Pier (talk) 12:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Rdyornot (talk) 22:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nemo Le Poisson (talk) 10:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support -- the wub "?!" 18:32, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support ~ Amory (utc) 13:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support The Grid (talk) 17:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jstalins (talk) 04:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support PinkPanda272 (talk) 08:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Papuass (talk) 21:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Épico (talk)/(contribs) 23:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Mmitchell10 (talk) 21:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Rehman 02:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support HLHJ (talk) 03:12, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support DutchTreat (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nachtbold (talk) 15:32, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Charles Alexis Gérard (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)