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Welcome message.[edit]

If someone is so kind can they please leave a welcome message on the top of my talk page? I've never had one and think that they look nice. Thank you in advance. --Donald Trung (Talk 🀳🏻) (My global lock πŸ˜’πŸŒπŸ”’) (My global unlock πŸ˜„πŸŒπŸ”“) 12:38, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg done by a user  β€” billinghurst sDrewth 12:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  β€” billinghurst sDrewth 12:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Xiao'erjing Wikipedia.[edit]

"Need help on doing the Xiao'erjing Wikipedia![edit] Hello again, I am Muso Kortjass, I was wondering some languages of China have their own Wikipedia at the expense of the Sichuan Yi Wikipedia, Why don't I make Wikipedia in the Xiao'erjing language? Thank you!" Copied from here, this discussion seems more relevant here. Pinging @Muso Sholban: so people can give him/her advice how to suggest a new wiki-project here. --Donald Trung (Talk 🀳🏻) (My global lock πŸ˜’πŸŒπŸ”’) (My global unlock πŸ˜„πŸŒπŸ”“) 12:30, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

I see this as not likely to be eligible for a project on those terms. See en:Xiao'erjing: It seems to be not so much a language as a writing systemβ€”in which case, the normal approach would be to use a script converter, if possible, rather than to create a separate language.
One possible route forward: Min Nan, Min Dong and Hakka all have content in Latin alphabet, rather than Chinese characters. If there is a variety of Chinese having an ISO 639–3 code that is usually (even often) written in Xiao'erjingβ€”and if there is not already an open Wikipedia or test in that variety of Chinese, then a test project could be started at Incubator under that language code.
Whether or not LangCom will ultimately accept a separate project in a language already having an existing project (like Mandarin) whose only difference is the writing system (script) is unclear. Based on my reading of the rules, that kind of project would not be permitted. There is a Pinyin test of Mandarin on Incubator right now, but again I cannot say what LangCom will do if it comes to them. So I think you're far better off finding a variety of Chinese not currently in use and starting there. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

How to start a global unban discussion for Yahadzija?[edit]

Yahadzija has previously wished to return to editing, I personally see how they could benefit Bosnian Wikipedia and be severely sanctioned on other wiki's until they have proven to be sufficiently knowledgeable about various issues (mostly concerning copyright Β©), how would I have to start this unban request? Could Yahadzija comment in it? And can setting up a list of "provisional restrictions" may help the chances of having this person unbanned?

If there was any further abuse by this user then excuse my ignorance, I had only seen them want to return by a message they left here on Meta and they were subsequently banned giving me the idea that they're not allowed to request a global unban themselves. If there are people from Bosnian Wikipedia that want him back then I would love to co-ordinate a potential unban with them. --Donald Trung (Talk 🀳🏻) (My global lock πŸ˜’πŸŒπŸ”’) (My global unlock πŸ˜„πŸŒπŸ”“) 13:15, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Better to just create RFC rather than posting here. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:56, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, I would start an RfC I were actually convinced that this person understands the reasons for his ban properly and knows what copyright Β© is, a Global (Un)ban discussion at that point should only be a formality, but as I currently don’t have any way of contacting him I think that finding some sort of way where he can communicate with us would be preferred, in case of this user having been applied a global block with an exception to the Bosnian Wikipedia would've been preferred, but I just noticed that he added some extra information πŸ›ˆ on his home 🏠 village on Dutch Wikipedia that (thankfully) hasn't been reverted (oddly enough that same admin that patrols that page enforces global locks but not community global bans), my biggest issue with that is that this user barely has any understanding of any language that isn't Serbo-Croatian , but not all of their edits are bad. I still think πŸ€” that as long as they don't understand how copyright works that any request will fail. Personally I would’ve advised them to take pictures πŸ“· of their village themselves. Sent πŸ“© from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile πŸ“±. --Donald Trung (Talk 🀳🏻) (My global lock πŸ˜’πŸŒπŸ”’) (My global unlock πŸ˜„πŸŒπŸ”“) 18:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)