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Wikitext syntax highlighting is now live as a beta feature on all LTR wikis! Feel free to leave comments and questions here.

"File" with text in brackets inside it does not highlight correctly[edit]

This does not format correctly in test:Pride and Prejudice:

[[File:Houghton Typ 805.94.8320 - Pride and Prejudice, 1894, Hugh Thomson - Protested.jpg|thumb|left|180px|Illustration by [[Hugh Thomson]] representing Mr Collins, protesting that he never reads novels]]

I see everything up to and including "Thomson]]" with a light purple background, then the rest with a white background. Jonesey95 (talk) 00:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. That's tracked as phab:T108447. --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Broken for RTL[edit]

Thank you for implementing syntax highlighting for wiki syntax, this is really nice feature. However, please note that for right to left languages it is broken, for example the text direction is always left to right and browser switch text direction functionality ([Ctrl+Shift/Ctrl+Shift+X]) doesn't change the text direction compared to simple textarea. This is very important to RTL users as it is quite common to handle LTR embedded text within RTL content. eranroz (talk) 12:31, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Eran -- I've filed this as phab:T170001; we'll look into it. DannyH (WMF) (talk) 17:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Magic words localization[edit]

Yes check.svg Resolved.

Hello. Continuing Eran's post, there is another local problem: localisated magic words are highlighted as templates. IKhitron (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

IKhitron: Thanks for the report -- can you give me an example? DannyH (WMF) (talk) 17:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Sure, DannyH (WMF): {{DEFAULTSORT:AAA}} <-> {{מיון רגיל:AAA}}
Great, thanks IKhitron: I added that to phab:T170001. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Why, DannyH (WMF)? It's local problem, not RTL problem at all. IKhitron (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
IKhitron: Oh, I'm sorry -- you're right, I was distracted by two RTL examples in a row. :) I created a new ticket for the magic words: phab:T170004. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 17:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Category[edit]

Hello. As I understood, there is no way to highlight categorization as in wikEd. Is there a reason for this? Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 18:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@IKhitron: Actually, categories are highlighted, but they are treated the same as links. This is both to avoid "rainbow soup" and for performance optimization, but if there is demand for highlighting categories differently, we will definitely consider it. Kaldari (talk) 22:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I suggest you to consider creation of new CSS style for categories, designed the same as ordinary links. So it will look the same. But users or communities that want this, will change the design and see it. It is important to many people to see category link in the middle of the page, recognizing it should not be there. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 22:33, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Colors[edit]

Can you make the colors more like those of WikEd? Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:37, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Please, don't. The wikEd colors are awful. And Doc James, you can change the colors as you wish, using CSS. IKhitron (talk) 11:57, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
While I agree that the wikEd colors are not always as nice as they could be, I also think that the current colorset for this CodeMirror highlighting is like skittles to my eyes. There is so much going on, it makes it harder to read some of the text with all these different colors. It's important that things are recognizable, but that doesn't mean that everything needs to have it's own color in my opinion. But so far I'm so happy with this bikeshed, I don't want to argue about the colors just yet  :) —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 21:51, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
While the gadget could technically allow the user to select among a number of different coloring options. We could have a version for those who are red green color blind for example and a version for those who have become used to WikEd as well as the current version. Than EVERYONE could be happy :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:08, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Does this section here mean I can get Wikitext to color code the same as WikEd?[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:33, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

HTML comment next to a heading[edit]

If an HTML comment is on either side of a heading, the heading won't get highlighted and the size won't change. Give it a go here. Here's a .gif of it happening in case the previous link doesn't show it off properly. – Srdjan m (talk) 16:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@Srdjan m: Thank you for the detailed bug report! I've created a new Phabricator task for it. Ryan Kaldari (WMF) (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Change button icon[edit]

Hi. Is there a way to change the button icon, {}? It's not intuitive, and for our wiki looks almost the same as {{}}, the Template Wizard. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 18:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@IKhitron: What is the Template Wizard and which wiki is that on? If it's too similar, we'll see about changing the syntax highlighting icon to something else. What do you think about this icon: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F7946828? Kaldari (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Something as add template on VE, but on WE, and more powerful. You can add new template. Also, if you choose some template wiki code and press the button, you'll get a window with all the template parameters. Those in the code will appear in the fields, those from wikidata will be gray, the rest are empty. You can change them as you wish. It's on w:he:Mediawiki talk:Gadget-TemplateParamWizard, but also on Arab, I think. You mean the blue one? Looks very nice. IKhitron (talk) 22:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

LanguageConverter support[edit]

Would it be possible to add support for LC's syntax that's currently used on several wikis? – Srdjan m (talk) 15:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Another nesting problem[edit]

Hello again. Congrats for the deployment. We already talked about nesting problem, in files, and here is another one. Open the last Tech News issue and see the <tvar> tags. IKhitron (talk) 22:34, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the report. We just started a ticket for the tvar tags -- phab:T172456. I added your comment on the ticket. -- -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 22:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Can't you just support any tag - it should be much simplier. IKhitron (talk) 22:59, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Bidi[edit]

Hi. Great it's on again. Pay attention that bidi override does not work. IKhitron (talk) 22:39, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

IKhitron: Sorry, I don't understand. What's bidi override? -- -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 22:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Adding bidi=override css style to the editor window. For example, add the direction gadget, the first in language support section here on meta, and try the bidi=override button for some rtl text inside the regular ltr one, DannyH (WMF), with and without the highlighter. IKhitron (talk) 22:46, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
IKhitron: Oh, I see. Yes, we're having trouble making syntax highlighting work for RTL text. There are some changes that need to be made to the CodeMirror library; we're still figuring out how to approach this. That applies both to RTL wikis and embedded RTL text. We're tracking our progress on this ticket: phab:T170001. -- -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 17:02, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Of course I know this, DannyH (WMF). But I believe that this point should be tracked two, in the same ticket or elsewhere, because I'm not so sure that fixing this task will fix bidi too. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 17:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

"Discussion" link on beta features page does not link to this page[edit]

On en.WP at least, the Beta features section for this new feature provides links called "information" and "discussion". "Information" links to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting but "Discussion" links to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:CodeMirror. The links should go to pages that correspond to each other, like most XXXX/Talk page link pairs. Jonesey95 (talk) 16:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Jonesey95, the "Discussion" link on Beta features always goes to a mediawiki.org page, so that people reporting problems with the feature can use a Flow structured discussion page. We're pointing the "Information" link to the Meta page because it's got more up-to-date information. I agree that's a strange rationale. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 23:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Breaking an interface title in two messages[edit]

MediaWiki:Codemirror-popup-syntax and MediaWiki:Codemirror-popup-highlighting are combined to form the title "Syntax Highlighting", with the two words having different styling. That was not a good approach, as in some languages the natural wording is in opposite order (Greek: Επισήμανση Σύνταξης). I crossed the translations in the messages so it will not appear weird when it goes live, but this is a hack and not good approach (f.e. the translation memory of translatewiki will propose a wrong word for another message, or in some languages the translator may not take notice until it goes live on the interface). -Geraki TL 08:29, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Geraki, thanks for pointing this out -- we hadn't considered how that would impact the translation. I filed a bug ticket (phab:T174219), and I'll talk with the team about it. Thank you! -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 22:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Browser spell-checker doesn't work any more[edit]

Since I've activated the highlighter, the spell-checker in my browser doesn't work in this window any longer. What has changed to trigger this unwanted behaviour? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 19:57, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Sänger, thanks for reporting this. I've created a ticket for it (phab:T174223), and we'll see what we can do. Thanks! -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi DannyH (WMF). Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I already saw another phab ticket about this issue, a couple of days ago. IKhitron (talk) 00:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
IKhitron: Oh, you're right. I merged with phab:T95104. Thank you! -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 00:35, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
No problem. IKhitron (talk) 00:39, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
As I can't write anything in phab (I'm banned there for asking too pertinent for an answer from the devs back to the community), can someone please quote me there, that it's a very bad idea to invent the weel a second time and try to get e new spell-checker in wiki, while there is so good stuff out there already in the browsers. It's wasted money and resources, and will put even more load in the Wiki, that is already fully available in every browser. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 08:27, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
P.S.: I've reactivated WikEd for the time being, as especially here in a foreign language discussion working without a spell-checker is not funny. Could someone please ping me here (for example by posting something) once the solution is found and implemented? WikEd has other disadvantages (it currently makes the summary nearly unusable), so I'd like to have this one working. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 10:57, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Agree to gravity of the problem in non-native languages (probably a majority of users on Commons, Wikidata and other projects). For me at least lack of a spell checker is an exclusion criterion in most cases (unfortunately). --Marsupium (talk) 06:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Possibly connected technically and more a minor issue perhaps: The highlighter breaks the text suggesting in iOS, no idea how many are affected by this. :) --Marsupium (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello all. We have a possible fix for this issue. You can test it out on this page. It's not deployed anywhere as yet. There are some known issues with it which you can read about on phab:T95104. Feel free to comment there directly. Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 23:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
It worked for me (Linux/FF). Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 13:01, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Classes of rendered HTML[edit]

Would it be expensive to set something like .mw-redirect for redirects and .extiw for interwikilinks, too, like in the rendered HTML body? --Marsupium (talk) 21:54, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

I think that would be wrong because for example an external link is semantically different from wikitext representing it. Max Semenik (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
OK, then something like .cm-mw-redirect for redirects and .cm-mw-extiw for interwikilinks? --Marsupium (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Home / End keys cumbersome behavior[edit]

Yes check.svg Resolved.

The Home and End keys have an awkward behavior in this editor, ignoring word wrap of long lines within the text area and moving the caret all the way to the beginning or end of the whole paragraph. When the paragraph is wrapped into more than two or three lines long, this accounts for a very long jump, and makes it difficult to navigate to arbitrary places within the paragraph.

In all major browsers, pressing these keys within a text area will move the caret to the start or end of the current line of text in the screen, accounting for word wrap. I.e., if a paragraph of text spans several lines, pressing Home moves the caret to the first word of its current line, which may be located midway within the long paragraph. This way, it is easy to quick jump to the beginning of any row of text, and navigating the text within a long paragraph is much faster.

The deviation from the standard behavior makes the editor nearly unusable, as it forces me to switch to the mouse for quick positioning within the paragraph, or alternately requiring many more repeated word advances with ctrl + left/right. Even though I'm really liking of Syntax highlighting is working so far, I've disabled it in Beta preferences solely because of this unexpected behavior.

The funny thing is that it seems to happen only when enabling Syntax highlighting with the old wikitext editor. I've just tried it within the 2017 editor and it works as expected. I've tried it in several browsers, Chrome-based and Firefox-based, on Windows 10. Diego Moya (talk) 07:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Breaks searching[edit]

With the highlighter on, I was unable to search for text in the edit window. Search worked on text outside, but not inside. Also, the colors are too loud.--Auric (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

We've rolled out a fix for the search issues and you should be able to see it live on the wikis over the coming week. For the colors, you can customize them in your CSS file see - Community Tech/Wikitext editor syntax highlighting. You can find an example of how to do this here: User:NKohli_(WMF)/common.css. Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 19:14, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Fronteer between WYSIWYG and WikiText. More customizations of specific templates and colors needed?[edit]

We have a non Wikipedia wiki server in various languages and very specific nested templates. Without syntax highlighting it is not possible to edit the text(see below). With a Visual editor you would need recursive possibilities to enter and edit the two level nested templates. But this facility does not exist yet.

The only solution is the current wikitext editor with syntax highligting. But I wonder if the new wikitext can be customized in order to produce the following visual effect (or click on this edit page):


{{TextTerm|Demography|1|101|IndexEntry=demography}} is the scientific study of human populations primarily with respect to their size, their {{TextTerm|structure|2|101}} and their development; it takes into account the quantitative aspects of their general characteristics. It is the core of the {{NewTextTerm|population science|8|101|OtherIndexEntry=sciences, population ...}}, which in the broadest sense include interdisciplinary fields such as {{NonRefTerm|economic demography}} ({{Refnumber|10|4|1}}), {{NonRefTerm|social demography}} ({{Refnumber|10|4|2}}), {{NonRefTerm|population genetics}} ({{Refnumber|10|4|4}}), {{NonRefTerm|historical demography}} ({{Refnumber|10|2|1}}), {{NonRefTerm|mathematical demography}} ({{Refnumber|10|2|6}}) as well as contributions from the law, medicine, epidemiology ({{Refnumber|42|3|6}}), sociology, psychology, geography and philosophy. In statistical terminology any collection of distinct elements may be called a {{TextTerm|population|3|101}}, a word that is synonymous with {{TextTerm|universe|3|101|2}}. However, in demographic usage, the term {{TextTerm|population|4|101}} refers to all of the {{TextTerm|inhabitants|5|101|IndexEntry=inhabitant}} of a given area, though on occasion it may be used for part of the inhabitants only [e.g., the {{NonRefTerm|school-age population}} (cf. {{Refnumber|34|6|7}}), the {{NonRefTerm|marriageable population}} (cf. {{Refnumber|51|4|2}})]. Such groups are properly called {{TextTerm|sub-populations|6|101|IndexEntry=sub-population}}. The term population is often used to denote more specifically the {{TextTerm|population|7|101}}, i.e., the {{TextTerm|total number|7|101|2|OtherIndexEntry=number, total ...}} of the aggregate referred to in no. {{Refnumber|10|1|4}}.

{{Note|1|{{NoteTerm|Demography|IndexEntry=demography}}, n. - {{NoteTerm|demographic}}, adj. - {{NoteTerm|demographer}}, n.: a specialist in demography.}}

{{Note|4|{{NoteTerm|Population|IndexEntry=population}}, n. - Note that this term may also be used adjectivally as a synonym for demographic, e.g., in population problems, population analysis, population studies.}}

{{Note|5|{{NoteTerm|Inhabitant|IndexEntry=inhabitant}}, n. - {{NoteTerm|inhabit}}, v.: to occupy as a place of settled residence.}}


As you can see the boring templates are in dark colors and hard to read but the text to be modified by users is easy to read and to modify. I got that facility with a specific adaptation of DotsSyntaxHighlighter.

We have recent experience with editors of this dictionary. They were very reluctant to edit online but did agree with this facility (some of them). The text to be modified is in black on white without any color or special font. Only braces are colored with a color specific to the template. It was also important to separate the two parts, the main text of a section on top and its related notes below: therefore the editing of the notes is rendered in green color.

The output of this source code can be seen at http://en-ii.demopaedia.org/wiki/10/ .

I have read that the new wikitext is not using DotsSyntaxHighlighter but is much more customizable than current version of DotsSyntaxHighlighter for templates and nested templates.

But is the new wikitext editor enough customizable to produce such above visual editing? I don't think so. Before entering javascript again to fit my needs, I was wondering if such detailed customizations of templates (bracket colors, template names color, argument template text color) could be of interest for other mediawiki users?

Regards,

Syntax hightlighting will also work in LTR language like Arabic.

Syntax highlighting breaks DRV closure javascript[edit]

This is probably more of a problem with the script than with the syntax highlighting, but this breaks User:Lifebaka/closedrv.js. I described the problem here. RoySmith (talk) 13:02, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Conflict with TemplateScript[edit]

I love the new syntax highlighting, but I find that I can't use my TemplateScript scripts anymore. This is on the English Wiktionary. I click the buttons in the sidebar and they do nothing. I'm not sure if the problem lies with the syntax highlighting mechanism or with TemplateScript. My other editing scripts work fine, so perhaps the latter. Erutuon (talk) 20:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

the current color scheme is hard to read (which renders highlighting useless)[edit]

I really like CodeMirror, but the default color scheme is problematic. It makes almost any text harder to read.

Syntax highlighting should show up differences and group similar tags/elements together, yet the current color scheme disobeyes any rules for highlighting.

Just a few examples (there are a lot more issues):

  • ~~~~ and ---- are highlighted exactly the same, although they have nothing in common. I have to look twice to actually see what they are. Syntax highlighting should add color to do exactly that, so that I know right away, what those 4 characters are.
  • on the other hand links are highlighted different (internal, external, plain) which makes it really hard to read. I want to look at the text and have the links stand out. Not only do they not stand out, because the color scheme uses low contrast colors, they also look different and fade into the rest of the text.

With the current color scheme, syntax highlighting has the oppsite effect. It makes it not easier, but harder to parse and read the text. Tessus (talk) 22:53, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

It looks like there are a lot of different preferences for details of highlighting and it looks like no single option will satisfy everyone. A possible solution is to allow user customising. The default works well enough for me, for what I use it for most of the time, but clearly there are other uses, for which a different scheme would work better. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:38, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
There is user customising. IKhitron (talk) 15:44, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Cool, where do I find the instructions? Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:00, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Community Tech/Wikitext editor syntax highlighting#Color and style customization IKhitron (talk) 16:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
That tells me it can be done, not how to do it myself, so not useful to me as instructions Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:10, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Actually, it does explain how. What do you know about CSS? IKhitron (talk) 16:12, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Almost nothing, and therein lies the problem. I probably know about as much as most editors, so I don't think the instructions as they are will help many of us to customise our highlighting. I can read CSS code and much of the time see that it does what it does, without knowing enough to write it myself, or fix it if broken. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:57, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
I think it's good enough for you. Try this: Open the page [[Special:MyPage/common.cssjs]] on your wiki. Add a line
.cm-mw-list {background-color: green; color: red;}
at the bottom (the cm-mw-list comes from the second table line in the link I gave you). Save. Open some highlighted edit page and try lists - * and #. IKhitron (talk) 18:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
I followed your instruction and it worked in a way that was logical after the fact. This shows that there is a gap in the instructions, that is small but critical (in my case). Your tiny addition made it workable for me. A short paragraph of basic instruction of how to find/create your common.css page, where to put the code, and the synatax for colour specification can be added with the table so others can also do it. an example like yours and the expected display would also be worth adding. I am not sufficiently sure I could describe the procedure without errors, but will give it a try. Please check and correct if I provide misleading information. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
IKhitron, I accidentally put the code in /common.css, where it worked. I then noticed my error, and tried to put it in /common.js as you suggested, where I got an error message when trying to save. I therefore assume that you meant /common.css, which makes some sense, particularly since it worked. Please confirm. I now see that in the explanation at Community Tech/Wikitext editor syntax highlighting#Color and style customization it specifies common.css, which is probably why I did it. No worries.
I wrote an explanation at Community Tech/Wikitext editor syntax highlighting#How to do it for those who have very little understanding of css. Please check and correct where necessary. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I still think that a better out-of-the-box experience should be provided. While I do understand that it won't be perfect for everyone, at least it would be a better start for others to customize it themselves. Please talk to graphic and UI designers (and I do not mean me), who understand the rules of syntax highlighting, color contrast, and text flow. Currently everything is meshed up and the only thing one can see is a big blob of colors (with more sophisticated pages that is). Tessus (talk) 19:41, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
If it is too complex to allow tick-box options of the familiar sets of colours, it would be possible for sets of css code to be available which can be copied and pasted to emulate the other familiar colour schemes, and for that matter, any number of other preferences. I leave this as an exercise for someone who actually knows how to write css. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:17, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I am sorry. Of course, it was css. IKhitron (talk) 09:11, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Well, Peter (Southwood), I improved it a little. What do you think? IKhitron (talk) 09:32, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
IKhitron, Now we are cooking with gas! That is exactly the kind of improvement I was hoping for. Now we just need a few others to test the instructions and give feedback on whether they work for everyone, or a reasonable subset of everyone. Big improvement, thanks. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I like the idea of tick-box options to choose a theme - or a drop down box. I don't need 100 different ones, but the 4 they used in Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting#Color_and_style_customization would be a great start. CodeMirror comes with a bunch of themes in resources/lib/codemirror/theme/, so I don't really understand why choosing a theme was never implemented. Tessus (talk) 00:50, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Change “green and red” to “blue and red”[edit]

This section uses green and red as a sample color combo, but that can be changed to either blue and amber, or blue and red. Not nagging but let’s be inclusive for a color blind. —Omotecho (talk) 22:56, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Omotecho, The actual colours don't matter much. Tthis is an open wiki, you can change them to whatever will work best. Red and green actually show a good example of why one may wish to change the colours, but if you think it confuses the issue, just fix it and explain why. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:13, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Pbsouthwood, of course colors are of your choice. Speaking of how to make the documentation universal, I wish to update the shown sample in the bordered box. Could we update $code and show the same result as when applying <syntaxhighlight lang=css>.cm-mw-list {background-color: blue; color: red;}</syntaxhighlight> ? If I go ahead and change translation in ja, I’m afraid it doesn’t solve the issue; unless we update English documentation, proofreaders will correct such translation as not abiding to English text. Sorry but that’s how translating/proofreading works, and why I am asking this question. —Omotecho (talk) 19:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Omotecho, I have no objection to you updating the English version by changing the colours and text of the sample to one of the combinations you described for this reason. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 03:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Pbsouthwood, I’ll go ahead and update ja. Best, —Omotecho (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Me either. When I created this example, I just took the colours off the top of my head. IKhitron (talk) 22:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)