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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Jagwar in topic Is article depth still a relevant metric nowadays?
Definitions
[edit]Where can I find a more precise definition for the depth value? Especially:
- In (Non-Articles/Articles): Which entries are counted as non-articles (user pages, other portals like Wiktionary etc.)?
- Is the Stub-ratio increasing or decreasing with a higher quote of stubs?
--JFKCom 10:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- I was wondering the same. What are the exact definitions for this formula? Samulili 19:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- I try to answer this to the best of my knowledge, but I am not involved in any way in determining depth, so I could be wrong:
- The values are derived from Special:Statistics.
- non-articles is the second row "Pages" - articles
- stub-ratio is just "first row/second row", so it's not really a measure of what we normally know as "stubs", but it is the relation of "articles" (in the definition of "no redirect, at least one link") to all pages. --::Slomox:: >< 16:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- One correction: stub-ratio is "first row/second row", but the formula calculates with "1 - first row/second row". Information can also be found at http://s23.org/wiki/User_talk:Mutante. --::Slomox:: >< 16:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for these hints! Now I understand. In fact, depth is depending on the following quantities:
- "good": number of "content pages", i.e. proper articles
- "total": number of pages in the wiki, including discussion pages, redirects etc.
- "nonarticles": total - good
- "edits": number of total edits in the wiki
And the formula is: (edits / good) * nonarticles ^ 2 / (total * good).
Now I also understand, why the results of the depth value are as erratic as evident from the statistical tables. In my opinion, the two main bugs in this formula are:
- (1) "edits" are edits on all articles counted for "total", "good" are a subset: A more reasonable quotient would be "edits / total".
- (2) The influence of "nonarticles" is valued with an at least quadratic measure, whereas "edits" are valued with a linear measure.
Issue (2) is especially important, because "nonarticles" is essentially a measure of "overhead" more than "maturity" of a wiki, as laid down by others in past discussions. For example, a wiki in which obsolete discussion pages or orphaned user pages are deleted, shrinks its depth, while retaining these useless contents conserves the depth value.
My proposal for a new depth formula: (edits / total) * (size_in_kB / total)
I am aware of the disatvantages of using size_in_kB (UTF code length etc.), but in my opinion the proposed formula supports more adequate results. --JFKCom 21:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
× (Non-Articles/Articles)
[edit]It always seems to me that the formula includes × (Non-Articles/Articles). Since non-articles don't actually create useful content, and the articles are the goal, we could just as easily call it x (Bureaucracy/Content).
Wouldn't content-ratio (i.e., x (article pages/total pages)) be better? Almafeta 03:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- You could also easily call it × (Images+Templates+Talk)/Articles) which is a positive metric since it measures the wiki's maturity. Your change would mean starting a Talk page or adding InfoBox for an article may reduce the wiki's depth. Also, a bot that just adds articles will increase the depth of the wiki. --MarsRover 02:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether "(Non-Articles/Articles)" or "(article pages/total pages)" is used. Both measures are seriously flawed and can only give a very rough indication about the state of a wiki. --::Slomox:: >< 16:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia!
- Here's the final word. The most essential thing about Wikipedia is that it's COMMUNITY-based. "Wikipedian quality" (as Depth is most concisely defined) means how lively the COMMUNITY behind each Wikipedia is. Therefore, this part of the formula, far from referring to "unuseful content", is actually essential. Again: Wikipedia is a living encyclopedia. That is, it's made of BOTH articles AND people (editors) with personal pages. AND their respective talk pages. IOW, the Depth formula is article+community-oriented.
- If you are narrowly devoted to pure article-orientedness (like pragmatic purpose-oriented and people-objectifying pre/anti-open_source Luddites and retro-tarded Britannica-worshiping snobs), and "[s]ince ... the articles are the goal", simply ignore the volunteer community and its "bureaucratic" Depth column and watch the article count column only, but let us watch the extent and Depth to which our "seriously flawed" community (or "bureaucracy") do their talk and work. The Depth formula does need change, but positive change. So you are clueless.
- If this still doesn't make much sense to you, please stick to aol://britannica.com before it goes bankrupt. You'll get articles only, no bureaucracy. Thank you.
- (Don't worry about my tone, it was just a rant.)
x Stub-ratio
[edit]What exactly is the formula for Stub-ratio? --MarsRover 02:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- See above. --::Slomox:: >< 16:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
how often?
[edit]the depth is not updated automatically it seems, if this is the case then how often is it updated, weekly, monthly or what? Thanks--Ramsis II 18:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Do not include images in depth computation
[edit]In my opinion the images should not be counted in the depth computation because in an ideal Wikipedia all their images should be stored in Commons. Best regards, Alpertron 22:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
small wikis
[edit]- 08:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Kanuri: 1 article, depth = 359870
- Muskogee - 2 articles, depth = 62867
- Afar - 6 articles, depth = 96140
- ...
- Cree - 116 articles, depth = 1541
- Lak - 109 articles, depth = 1431
- ...
- Burmese - 31760 articles, depth = 1421
- Sinhalese - 3696 articles, depth = 4642
- Gilaki| - 5959 articles, depth = 1295
- ...
- Citizendium... ?? :)
Non-Article pages... Przykuta 08:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- This should be part of the definition "Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant." --MarsRover 20:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Таблица
[edit]Ru:Состояние на 2008-2009 годы кочует из одной википедии в другую, производя гнетущее впечатление. Может, удалить?--AndreyA 09:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC) En:Delete table.--AndreyA 09:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think it is nice to have statistics for the past years. I have added now the current statistics also. -- Ace111 21:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
The stub ratio
[edit]"The stub ratio is (1-(Articles/Total)" ?? The stub ratio is here +/- Milions of user sandboxes + userpageges of users without edits + 1-element categories + stub_meta_subpages + thousands of file_pages =/= better quality. Przykuta 17:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
depth definition
[edit]Is "stub ratio" really the same as "nonarticles/articles"? If so, then the formula with the square of this value hardly makes much sense. Perhaps there's actually a different definition that actually looks at the number of stubs?
The current "depth" seems to do an OK job of sorting out the "real" large WP's from the "fake" ones (e.g. Volapuk, Waray-Waray) where evidently someone has just copied a large number of articles from elsewhere, but a terrible job of measuring some concept of overall encyclopedia quality when it comes to the smaller WP's. I suggest multiplying by the number of "active users". The # of active contributors seems like an important measure of "depth" by any reasonable definition of "depth". In addition, because the # of active contributors usually tracks closely the total encyclopedia size, it will help to downweight the very small encyclopedias (hence avoid the totally random depth ratings of the very small ones currently). In addition, it has a big advantage over any actual measurement based on encyclopedia size (e.g. log(#articles)) in that it won't get spoofed by small numbers of users using bots to auto-create lots of pages. Note, for example, that currently the Polish WP has a depth of 13 whereas the Volapuk WP has a depth of 12, which seems completely wrong; a measure of active users (5,265 for Polish vs. 49 for Volapuk) will clearly separate these two. Likewise, I doubt that the Serbian WP (143,000 articles, 4.6 million edits, depth 47) really has comparable quality to the Japanese WP (753,000 articles, 39.6 million edits, depth 53); the active user count (669 Serbian vs. 10,753 Japanese) will separate the two. At the same time, the active user count will help keep the depth relatively high for WP's which seem to have unusual activity for their size -- e.g. the Hebrew WP (depth 226), with only 119,000 articles but whose edit count (11.3 million) beats every one of the larger WP's up through Catalan (342,000 articles, depth 18, only 7.8 million edits), and whose active user count (2,105) is likewise high for its size (cf. Catalan's 1,602 active users). Likewise, the active user count is higher than average for the other mid-size WP's with high depths (e.g. Arabic, Turkish).
Benwing 01:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
BTW I went ahead and wrote a little program to compute new depth values from the current ones by multiplying by (active-users/1000). Results:
Lang Articles Edits Active users Depth New depth English 3651105 465937891 142855 607 86712.99 Spanish 765643 49833542 15075 167 2517.53 French 1111637 70031019 15960 144 2298.24 German 1240517 93926939 23227 89 2067.20 Russian 719424 36895648 12061 91 1097.55 Italian 807892 44819262 8663 81 701.70 Japanese 752615 38611597 10753 53 569.91 Arabic 148248 8211026 2224 227 504.85 Hebrew 119313 11302036 2105 226 475.73 Turkish 168295 10190810 2347 191 448.28 Portuguese 686282 26078612 5530 81 447.93 Chinese 359102 17028458 5356 82 439.19 Hungarian 191962 10128163 2069 89 184.14 Dutch 690308 26080074 5273 32 168.74 Persian 152912 6740512 1798 93 167.21 Swedish 398321 14881995 3122 48 149.86 Korean 163691 7724647 1932 70 135.24 Romanian 160687 5619538 1169 92 107.55 Indonesian 165235 5114748 1711 62 106.08 Thai 67540 3457276 822 125 102.75 Czech 196918 7071056 2148 37 79.48 Finnish 270170 10642804 1836 43 78.95 Malayalam 18297 1100065 255 295 75.22 Polish 806014 28293527 5265 13 68.44 Bengali 22238 1016893 166 410 68.06 Ukrainian 285074 7042407 1713 35 59.95 Norwegian (Bokmål) 303605 9359214 2195 26 57.07 Danish 150621 5216266 1252 36 45.07 Simple English 71247 3096554 767 58 44.49 Vietnamese 208197 4736596 1153 37 42.66 Serbian 143021 4589809 669 47 31.44 Greek 62332 2743116 778 40 31.12 Catalan 342425 7778131 1602 18 28.84 Latvian 34585 1364119 262 83 21.75 Bulgarian 117197 4304335 818 24 19.63 Bosnian 31306 1554097 173 102 17.65 Slovak 125030 3791951 595 22 13.09 Croatian 98006 3048816 601 21 12.62 Bavarian 4280 212720 84 132 11.09 Armenian 13817 502833 182 57 10.37 Slovenian 116923 3079564 669 15 10.04 Estonian 85068 2595046 371 27 10.02 Georgian 49309 1603969 242 41 9.92 Albanian 32558 1012299 287 28 8.04 Sinhalese 4716 158427 57 140 7.98 Lithuanian 133910 3491378 442 17 7.51 Aragonese 25815 1114754 121 62 7.50 Cantonese 15812 562060 109 67 7.30 Esperanto 146163 3620547 418 16 6.69 Icelandic 31487 1090012 175 36 6.30 Hindi 97070 1256807 214 28 5.99 Afrikaans 17950 818223 137 43 5.89 Bashkir 1378 60503 33 177 5.84 Norwegian (Nynorsk) 67572 1724701 228 24 5.47 Azerbaijani 64310 1323015 342 16 5.47 Tamil 32648 811177 188 29 5.45 Silesian 1931 136911 31 172 5.33 Oriya 1045 40140 33 154 5.08 Tatar 8625 423463 62 80 4.96 Anglo-Saxon 2630 119595 43 115 4.95 Galician 71830 1998614 265 18 4.77 Wu 2906 157885 51 92 4.69 Belarusian (Taraški 36605 1044502 159 28 4.45 Maltese 2825 156424 34 124 4.22 Latin 54264 1627848 245 17 4.17 Egyptian Arabic 7311 297541 73 56 4.09 Urdu 16784 433165 78 46 3.59 Crimean Tatar 1563 80128 24 142 3.41 Lojban 1125 77552 16 209 3.34 Navajo 2024 91714 21 155 3.25 Yiddish 8662 363487 41 72 2.95 Welsh 32508 1045949 118 25 2.95 Ossetian 7728 298428 38 75 2.85 Khmer 2716 71386 51 55 2.81 Mongolian 6231 197234 73 38 2.77 Occitan 27089 977008 88 31 2.73 Belarusian 29477 832000 169 16 2.70 Manx 3862 182729 29 90 2.61 Uzbek 7678 422555 39 65 2.54 Malay 119873 1814281 316 8 2.53 Alemannic 9866 351087 81 31 2.51 Irish 12563 479246 91 27 2.46 Wolof 1100 70078 14 173 2.42 Low Saxon 17437 529779 114 21 2.39 Serbo-Croatian 42375 793041 139 17 2.36 Tagalog 51579 881866 124 19 2.36 Basque 100915 2187678 292 8 2.34 Emilian-Romagnol 1346 43068 26 89 2.31 Marathi 33778 768805 100 23 2.30 Breton 37693 1015556 134 17 2.28 Pashto 2376 97059 26 85 2.21 Kirghiz 1532 47058 45 49 2.21 Assyrian Neo-Aramaic 1268 58585 25 80 2.00 Luxembourgish 32806 1160690 95 21 2.00 Limburgian 6658 275584 35 55 1.93 Northern Sami 3561 148529 44 43 1.89 Venetian 8950 393295 37 50 1.85 Fiji Hindi 3260 96594 47 39 1.83 Dutch Low Saxon 4483 206770 39 46 1.79 Aymara 1185 45882 27 66 1.78 Sicilian 16616 530027 57 31 1.77 West Flemish 4327 215559 26 67 1.74 Chechen 1299 49885 14 122 1.71 Kannada 10816 218036 85 19 1.61 Swahili 21604 646578 57 28 1.60 Interlingua 5485 331530 36 44 1.58 Somali 1959 64907 38 39 1.48 Asturian 14712 572471 87 17 1.48 Ladino 2595 106473 25 59 1.48 Tok Pisin 1025 49033 9 156 1.40 Gan 6012 234939 23 58 1.33 Min Nan 8702 307415 33 39 1.29 Faroese 4894 192830 30 42 1.26 Quechua 16442 436161 42 29 1.22 Cornish 2070 122966 17 70 1.19 Karachay-Balkar 1630 54467 12 98 1.18 Kashubian 2763 123013 52 21 1.09 Punjabi 1970 51247 15 71 1.06 Sardinian 2533 84549 22 48 1.06 Tibetan 2910 70372 27 37 1.00 Guarani 1400 58564 16 62 0.99 Meadow Mari 2340 59241 26 37 0.96 Lombard 20432 702945 45 21 0.94 Javanese 33400 512272 103 9 0.93 Upper Sorbian 6605 207679 34 27 0.92 Telugu 48003 618245 114 8 0.91 Extremaduran 1566 64711 23 39 0.90 Scots 6573 182065 49 18 0.88 West Frisian 20178 474248 71 12 0.85 Kurdish 16018 381258 53 16 0.85 Nahuatl 6540 276197 27 29 0.78 Greenlandic 1184 37656 17 46 0.78 Lingala 1710 77133 11 71 0.78 Ligurian 2830 108040 21 37 0.78 Sakha 7526 194214 31 25 0.78 Franco-Provençal/Ar 2152 146068 18 42 0.76 Divehi 3569 86246 26 26 0.68 Chuvash 12555 362948 47 14 0.66 Banyumasan 3606 111941 25 26 0.65 Scottish Gaelic 8351 320372 33 19 0.63 Burmese 5941 82509 51 12 0.61 Volapük 118854 2467408 49 12 0.59 Saterland Frisian 1771 63121 15 39 0.58 Kalmyk 1831 43845 16 36 0.58 Komi 2254 66943 21 27 0.57 Zazaki 3330 108152 17 33 0.56 Bihari 2691 89960 23 23 0.53 Romansh 3241 98759 21 24 0.50 Pennsylvania German 1761 68326 17 29 0.49 Papiamentu 1189 45265 14 33 0.46 Uyghur 2885 94516 13 35 0.46 Interlingue 1817 76564 18 25 0.45 Yoruba 12919 231488 37 12 0.44 Walloon 11957 244123 21 20 0.42 Corsican 6031 267671 20 19 0.38 North Frisian 1135 26070 15 25 0.38 Bishnupriya Manipuri 24752 579291 22 17 0.37 Sanskrit 4831 119531 37 10 0.37 Banjar 1156 20492 16 22 0.35 Acehnese 1525 40612 27 13 0.35 Sundanese 14779 307080 35 10 0.35 Amharic 10294 216268 31 11 0.34 Friulian 2889 122809 13 24 0.31 Picard 1573 19856 31 10 0.31 Kinyarwanda 1799 38648 17 18 0.31 Sorani 4138 62385 38 8 0.30 Tajik 9320 239337 32 9 0.29 Udmurt 2553 55594 16 18 0.29 Nepali 13878 115209 57 5 0.28 Kapampangan 7443 189590 21 13 0.27 Turkmen 4295 124539 17 15 0.26 Malagasy 16109 147112 28 9 0.25 Erzya 1425 52889 9 27 0.24 Norman 3458 167385 8 28 0.22 Samogitian 12732 239623 34 6 0.20 Komi-Permyak 1785 22538 25 8 0.20 Hawaiian 1769 42377 12 16 0.19 Kazakh 21492 244242 95 2 0.19 Tongan 1608 26616 6 30 0.18 Hakka 2121 53750 13 13 0.17 Newar / Nepal Bhasa 69548 596876 18 9 0.16 Novial 2584 137602 10 15 0.15 Võro 4684 118610 20 7 0.14 Ido 21729 631223 46 3 0.14 Ilokano 3788 101858 10 11 0.11 Mazandarani 3101 35242 17 6 0.10 Rusyn 2123 35324 14 7 0.10 Central_Bicolano 5049 90546 23 4 0.09 Zamboanga Chavacano 2408 52263 22 4 0.09 Cebuano 42684 977972 41 2 0.08 Piedmontese 39586 375511 40 2 0.08 Maori 6740 106558 12 5 0.06 Gujarati 20027 154968 57 1 0.06 Waray-Waray 101783 869483 53 1 0.05 Pali 2353 75935 13 4 0.05 Neapolitan 42419 508078 46 1 0.05 Hill Mari 4105 27877 27 1 0.03 Gilaki 5961 32378 13 2 0.03 Tarantino 8907 74798 13 2 0.03 Pangasinan 3415 33144 7 1 0.01 Haitian 53080 460669 33 0 0.00 Buginese 8584 58196 14 0 0.00 Ripuarian 2217 2074036 31 None 0.00 Aromanian 61689 121021 12 0 0.00 Classical Chinese 2523 187252 33 None 0.00 Western Panjabi 13000 130881 30 0 0.00 Macedonian 45974 2010290 309 None 0.00
Note that in this case there are no longer any weirdly high depth values for small WP's, and that some of the issues with Japanese and Polish vs. Serbian and Catalan have been fixed. Also, medium-large WP's with previously very high depths still retain that to some extent (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Turkish). In addition, languages like Waray-Waray and Volapuk where there's a lot of bot work have been way downweighted. In addition, the cases where the article size is high but depth is low are generally cases where there's a reasonable explanation: Malay probably has a lot of semi-automatic copying from Indonesian (since they're nearly identical); similarly for Serbo-Croatian vs. Serbian or Croatian, Galician vs. Portuguese, Nynorsk vs. Bokmal, Belarusian vs. Russian. Benwing 03:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
BTW I just did a bit of poking around on the WP's with depth values that seem higher or lower than what you might expect, basically checking them out using the "random article" button. Low-depth WP's with lots of articles (e.g. Latin, Basque) do indeed have a large number of small articles that have either been automatically generated (e.g. by copying geographic or taxonomic articles from English) or were created once by someone and then only edited since then by bots.
I also checked out Bengali, with a very high depth. I can't read Bengali, and on top of that I don't even have a Bengali font, so mostly I just see a lot of squares, so my conclusions are tentative. It actually looks quite similar in many ways to low-depth WP's like Basque or Latin, but with one critical difference: almost none of the Basque or Latin pages have corresponding Talk pages, whereas every single Bengali page does -- and they're almost all auto-created by "RagibBot". This alone is heavily spoofing the depth measure, even after multiplying by #active-users (which weights Polish way up and Bengali way down but still makes them have similar depth). This isn't all that surprising given that the (non-articles/articles) ratio appears squared in the depth formulas. This makes me think that
- We should definitely not be squaring this value
- We need to be filtering out edits by bots, and excluding pages whose only edits are by bots
- We should probably also be filtering bots out of the active user count (if it's not already done)
- Until we can do these things, we should consider squaring the #active-users to more heavily upweight WP's with lots of active users and more heavily penalize bot-heavy WP's.
Benwing 03:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
OK, I redid things so that we now compute the new depth in three ways:
- As I did before, i.e. old depth * activeusers (i.e. edits/total * (nonarticles/articles)^2 * activeusers/1000)
- Remove the squaring from nonarticles/articles (i.e. edits/total * nonarticles/articles * activeusers/1000)
- Remove the squaring, but add squaring of activeusers (i.e. edits/total * nonarticles/articles * (activeusers/1000)^2)
- Same as #2 but divide by arts/activeusers (i.e. edits/total * nonarticles/articles * activeusers/1000 / arts/activeusers):
I also added columns showing the nonarticles/articles and edits/total ratios, as well as edits/article and edits/activeuser.
Finally, rather than relying on the existing (rounded) old depth values, I compute them myself. I verified that my new computations are in fact the same as the old ones. Also, the old depth values assigned a value of "None" to three WP's that appeared to give totally bogus depth values (Macedonian, Ripuarian, Classical Chinese). I'm not currently filtering any of these out, so they'll appear in their "proper" places.
Here are the results:
Sorting by new depth #1 (old depth * activeusers = edits/total * (nonarticles/articles)^2 * activeusers/1000): Lang Articles Edits ActiveUsers NonArt/Art Art/ActUser Edit/Total Edit/Art Edit/ActUser Depth newdepth1 English 3651105 465937891 142855 5.604 25.558 19.324 127.616 3261.614 606.88 86695.29 Spanish 765643 49833542 15075 3.333 50.789 15.022 65.087 3305.708 166.86 2515.39 French 1111637 70031019 15960 3.034 69.651 15.616 62.998 4387.908 143.77 2294.63 German 1240517 93926939 23227 1.822 53.408 26.832 75.716 4043.869 89.06 2068.54 Russian 719424 36895648 12061 2.477 59.649 14.749 51.285 3059.087 90.51 1091.60 Italian 807892 44819262 8663 2.142 93.258 17.657 55.477 5173.642 81.01 701.78 Japanese 752615 38611597 10753 1.662 69.991 19.270 51.303 3590.774 53.25 572.57 Arabic 148248 8211026 2224 4.922 66.658 9.354 55.387 3692.008 226.56 503.86 Hebrew 119313 11302036 2105 3.142 56.681 22.870 94.726 5369.138 225.77 475.25 Turkish 168295 10190810 2347 3.954 71.706 12.224 60.553 4342.058 191.08 448.47 Portuguese 686282 26078612 5530 2.869 124.102 9.822 38.000 4715.843 80.84 447.06 Chinese 359102 17028458 5356 2.441 67.047 13.780 47.420 3179.324 82.12 439.84 Macedonian 45974 2010290 309 14.956 148.783 2.741 43.727 6505.793 612.98 189.41 Hungarian 191962 10128163 2069 2.386 92.780 15.582 52.761 4895.197 88.71 183.54 Persian 152912 6740512 1798 2.851 85.046 11.446 44.081 3748.894 93.05 167.30 Dutch 690308 26080074 5273 1.422 130.914 15.597 37.780 4945.965 31.55 166.38 Swedish 398321 14881995 3122 1.941 127.585 12.704 37.362 4766.815 47.86 149.42 Korean 163691 7724647 1932 2.165 84.726 14.909 47.190 3998.264 69.90 135.04 Romanian 160687 5619538 1169 3.407 137.457 7.936 34.972 4807.133 92.10 107.67 Indonesian 165235 5114748 1711 2.724 96.572 8.313 30.954 2989.333 61.67 105.51 Thai 67540 3457276 822 3.212 82.165 12.152 51.189 4205.932 125.40 103.08 Finnish 270170 10642804 1836 1.720 147.151 14.483 39.393 5796.734 42.85 78.66 Czech 196918 7071056 2148 1.638 91.675 13.614 35.909 3291.926 36.51 78.43 Malayalam 18297 1100065 255 5.753 71.753 8.903 60.123 4313.980 294.67 75.14 Ripuarian 2217 2074036 31 3.110 71.516 227.616 935.515 66904.387 2201.61 68.25 Bengali 22238 1016893 166 9.881 133.964 4.202 45.728 6125.861 410.32 68.11 Polish 806014 28293527 5265 0.811 153.089 19.383 35.103 5373.889 12.75 67.13 Ukrainian 285074 7042407 1713 2.113 166.418 7.934 24.704 4111.154 35.44 60.71 Norwegian (Bokmål) 303605 9359214 2195 1.446 138.317 12.603 30.827 4263.879 26.35 57.84 Classical Chinese 2523 187252 33 23.707 76.455 3.004 74.218 5674.303 1688.31 55.71 Danish 150621 5216266 1252 1.664 120.304 13.000 34.632 4166.347 36.00 45.07 Simple English 71247 3096554 767 2.002 92.890 14.479 43.462 4037.228 58.02 44.50 Vietnamese 208197 4736596 1153 2.312 180.570 6.869 22.751 4108.062 36.72 42.34 Greek 62332 2743116 778 1.522 80.118 17.452 44.008 3525.856 40.41 31.44 Serbian 143021 4589809 669 2.137 213.783 10.230 32.092 6860.701 46.72 31.25 Catalan 342425 7778131 1602 1.346 213.748 9.682 22.715 4855.263 17.54 28.10 Latvian 34585 1364119 262 2.832 132.004 10.294 39.443 5206.561 82.53 21.62 Bulgarian 117197 4304335 818 1.210 143.273 16.616 36.727 5262.023 24.34 19.91 Bosnian 31306 1554097 173 2.798 180.960 13.072 49.642 8983.220 102.31 17.70 Slovak 125030 3791951 595 1.285 210.134 13.274 30.328 6373.027 21.91 13.04 Croatian 98006 3048816 601 1.232 163.072 13.937 31.108 5072.905 21.15 12.71 Bavarian 4280 212720 84 3.438 50.952 11.198 49.701 2532.381 132.38 11.12 Armenian 13817 502833 182 2.246 75.918 11.212 36.392 2762.819 56.55 10.29 Estonian 85068 2595046 371 1.493 229.294 12.238 30.506 6994.733 27.27 10.12 Slovenian 116923 3079564 669 1.087 174.773 12.622 26.338 4603.235 14.90 9.97 Georgian 49309 1603969 242 1.905 203.756 11.198 32.529 6627.971 40.64 9.83 Albanian 32558 1012299 287 1.507 113.443 12.400 31.092 3527.174 28.18 8.09 Sinhalese 4716 158427 57 5.004 82.737 5.595 33.594 2779.421 140.12 7.99 Aragonese 25815 1114754 121 2.107 213.347 13.897 43.182 9212.843 61.72 7.47 Lithuanian 133910 3491378 442 1.180 302.964 11.962 26.073 7899.045 16.65 7.36 Cantonese 15812 562060 109 2.608 145.064 9.851 35.546 5156.514 67.03 7.31 Esperanto 146163 3620547 418 1.195 349.672 11.283 24.771 8661.596 16.12 6.74 Icelandic 31487 1090012 175 1.678 179.926 12.928 34.618 6228.640 36.39 6.37 Hindi 97070 1256807 214 2.931 453.598 3.294 12.947 5872.930 28.29 6.05 Afrikaans 17950 818223 137 1.550 131.022 17.876 45.583 5972.431 42.95 5.88 Bashkir 1378 60503 33 4.855 41.758 7.499 43.906 1833.424 176.75 5.83 Azerbaijani 64310 1323015 342 1.379 188.041 8.649 20.572 3868.465 16.44 5.62 Norwegian (Nynorsk) 67572 1724701 228 1.553 296.368 9.997 25.524 7564.478 24.11 5.50 Tamil 32648 811177 188 1.816 173.660 8.825 24.846 4314.771 29.09 5.47 Silesian 1931 136911 31 3.190 62.290 16.921 70.902 4416.484 172.20 5.34 Oriya 1045 40140 33 4.833 31.667 6.586 38.411 1216.364 153.80 5.08 Anglo-Saxon 2630 119595 43 3.302 61.163 10.570 45.473 2781.279 115.26 4.96 Tatar 8625 423463 62 2.324 139.113 14.769 49.097 6830.048 79.79 4.95 Galician 71830 1998614 265 1.196 271.057 12.668 27.824 7541.940 18.13 4.81 Wu 2906 157885 51 2.398 56.980 15.987 54.331 3095.784 91.97 4.69 Belarusian (Taraški 36605 1044502 159 1.579 230.220 11.063 28.534 6569.195 27.59 4.39 Maltese 2825 156424 34 2.984 83.088 13.897 55.371 4600.706 123.78 4.21 Latin 54264 1627848 245 1.080 221.486 14.423 29.999 6644.278 16.82 4.12 Egyptian Arabic 7311 297541 73 2.050 100.151 13.344 40.698 4075.904 56.07 4.09 Urdu 16784 433165 78 2.483 215.179 7.411 25.808 5553.397 45.67 3.56 Crimean Tatar 1563 80128 24 3.559 65.125 11.244 51.266 3338.667 142.44 3.42 Lojban 1125 77552 16 3.825 70.312 14.287 68.935 4847.000 209.02 3.34 Navajo 2024 91714 21 4.240 96.381 8.647 45.313 4367.333 155.47 3.26 Yiddish 8662 363487 41 2.424 211.268 12.256 41.963 8865.537 72.01 2.95 Welsh 32508 1045949 118 1.346 275.492 13.717 32.175 8863.975 24.84 2.93 Ossetian 7728 298428 38 2.668 203.368 10.529 38.616 7853.368 74.92 2.85 Khmer 2716 71386 51 2.824 53.255 6.873 26.284 1399.725 54.82 2.80 Mongolian 6231 197234 73 1.853 85.356 11.095 31.654 2701.836 38.10 2.78 Belarusian 29477 832000 169 1.100 174.420 13.439 28.225 4923.077 16.27 2.75 Occitan 27089 977008 88 1.459 307.830 14.667 36.067 11102.364 31.22 2.75 Malay 119873 1814281 316 1.069 379.345 7.316 15.135 5741.396 8.36 2.64 Manx 3862 182729 29 2.630 133.172 13.033 47.315 6301.000 90.17 2.61 Uzbek 7678 422555 39 1.833 196.872 19.425 55.035 10834.744 65.28 2.55 Alemannic 9866 351087 81 1.469 121.802 14.413 35.586 4334.407 31.10 2.52 Irish 12563 479246 91 1.276 138.055 16.760 38.147 5266.440 27.29 2.48 Basque 100915 2187678 292 0.850 345.599 11.718 21.678 7492.048 8.47 2.47 Wolof 1100 70078 14 3.489 78.571 14.192 63.707 5005.571 172.76 2.42 Serbo-Croatian 42375 793041 139 1.534 304.856 7.386 18.715 5705.331 17.38 2.42 Low Saxon 17437 529779 114 1.237 152.956 13.580 30.382 4647.184 20.79 2.37 Emilian-Romagnol 1346 43068 26 3.574 51.769 6.996 31.997 1656.462 89.34 2.32 Tagalog 51579 881866 124 1.722 415.960 6.281 17.097 7111.823 18.63 2.31 Breton 37693 1015556 134 1.175 281.291 12.388 26.943 7578.776 17.10 2.29 Marathi 33778 768805 100 1.613 337.780 8.710 22.761 7688.050 22.67 2.27 Kirghiz 1532 47058 45 2.302 34.044 9.302 30.717 1045.733 49.30 2.22 Pashto 2376 97059 26 2.821 91.385 10.690 40.850 3733.038 85.08 2.21 Luxembourgish 32806 1160690 95 1.131 345.326 16.602 35.380 12217.789 21.24 2.02 Assyrian Neo-Aramaic 1268 58585 25 2.449 50.720 13.397 46.203 2343.400 80.33 2.01 Limburgian 6658 275584 35 2.001 190.229 13.794 41.391 7873.829 55.21 1.93 Northern Sami 3561 148529 44 1.652 80.932 15.727 41.710 3375.659 42.92 1.89 Venetian 8950 393295 37 1.778 241.892 15.820 43.944 10629.595 50.00 1.85 Fiji Hindi 3260 96594 47 1.981 69.362 9.939 29.630 2055.191 39.01 1.83 Dutch Low Saxon 4483 206770 39 1.618 114.949 17.618 46.123 5301.795 46.12 1.80 Aymara 1185 45882 27 2.405 43.889 11.371 38.719 1699.333 65.77 1.78 Sicilian 16616 530027 57 1.586 291.509 12.333 31.899 9298.719 31.04 1.77 West Flemish 4327 215559 26 2.024 166.423 16.474 49.817 8290.731 67.49 1.75 Chechen 1299 49885 14 3.988 92.786 7.699 38.403 3563.214 122.43 1.71 Swahili 21604 646578 57 1.539 379.018 11.786 29.929 11343.474 27.93 1.59 Kannada 10816 218036 85 1.521 127.247 7.995 20.159 2565.129 18.50 1.57 Interlingua 5485 331530 36 1.283 152.361 26.480 60.443 9209.167 43.56 1.57 Asturian 14712 572471 87 0.918 169.103 20.287 38.912 6580.126 17.10 1.49 Ladino 2595 106473 25 2.129 103.800 13.114 41.030 4258.920 59.43 1.49 Somali 1959 64907 38 1.817 51.553 11.763 33.133 1708.079 38.82 1.48 Tok Pisin 1025 49033 9 4.060 113.889 9.453 47.837 5448.111 155.86 1.40 Gan 6012 234939 23 2.159 261.391 12.372 39.078 10214.739 57.65 1.33 Min Nan 8702 307415 33 1.739 263.697 12.899 35.327 9315.606 38.99 1.29 Faroese 4894 192830 30 1.691 163.133 14.643 39.401 6427.667 41.86 1.26 Quechua 16442 436161 42 1.713 391.476 9.779 26.527 10384.786 28.68 1.20 Cornish 2070 122966 17 1.818 121.765 21.077 59.404 7233.294 69.69 1.18 Karachay-Balkar 1630 54467 12 3.715 135.833 7.087 33.415 4538.917 97.82 1.17 Kashubian 2763 123013 52 0.973 53.135 22.563 44.522 2365.635 21.37 1.11 Sardinian 2533 84549 22 2.128 115.136 10.670 33.379 3843.136 48.33 1.06 Punjabi 1970 51247 15 3.503 131.333 5.778 26.014 3416.467 70.88 1.06 Tibetan 2910 70372 27 2.220 107.778 7.510 24.183 2606.370 37.01 1.00 Guarani 1400 58564 16 2.156 87.500 13.253 41.831 3660.250 61.63 0.99 Meadow Mari 2340 59241 26 2.129 90.000 8.091 25.317 2278.500 36.67 0.95 Lombard 20432 702945 45 1.149 454.044 16.007 34.404 15621.000 21.15 0.95 Javanese 33400 512272 103 1.122 324.272 7.229 15.337 4973.515 9.10 0.94 Scots 6573 182065 49 1.216 134.143 12.502 27.699 3715.612 18.47 0.91 Telugu 48003 618245 114 1.151 421.079 5.987 12.879 5423.202 7.93 0.90 Upper Sorbian 6605 207679 34 1.433 194.265 12.923 31.443 6108.206 26.54 0.90 Extremaduran 1566 64711 23 1.558 68.087 16.154 41.322 2813.522 39.22 0.90 West 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8.442 22.969 1738.000 25.00 0.37 Bishnupriya Manipuri 24752 579291 22 1.290 1125.091 10.219 23.404 26331.409 17.01 0.37 Sanskrit 4831 119531 37 0.854 130.568 13.346 24.742 3230.568 9.73 0.36 Banjar 1156 20492 16 1.907 72.250 6.099 17.727 1280.750 22.17 0.35 Acehnese 1525 40612 27 0.988 56.481 13.399 26.631 1504.148 13.07 0.35 Sundanese 14779 307080 35 0.976 422.257 10.514 20.778 8773.714 10.02 0.35 Amharic 10294 216268 31 1.039 332.065 10.305 21.009 6976.387 11.12 0.34 Sorani 4138 62385 38 1.084 108.895 7.235 15.076 1641.711 8.50 0.32 Friulian 2889 122809 13 1.084 222.231 20.393 42.509 9446.846 23.98 0.31 Kinyarwanda 1799 38648 17 1.439 105.824 8.810 21.483 2273.412 18.23 0.31 Picard 1573 19856 31 1.363 50.742 5.342 12.623 640.516 9.92 0.31 Udmurt 2553 55594 16 1.401 159.562 9.069 21.776 3474.625 17.80 0.28 Tajik 9320 239337 32 0.770 291.250 14.507 25.680 7479.281 8.61 0.28 Nepali 13878 115209 57 1.107 243.474 3.940 8.302 2021.211 4.83 0.28 Kapampangan 7443 189590 21 1.005 354.429 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208197 4736596 1153 2.312 180.570 6.869 22.751 4108.062 36.72 18.31 Bulgarian 117197 4304335 818 1.210 143.273 16.616 36.727 5262.023 24.34 16.45 Serbian 143021 4589809 669 2.137 213.783 10.230 32.092 6860.701 46.72 14.63 Malayalam 18297 1100065 255 5.753 71.753 8.903 60.123 4313.980 294.67 13.06 Macedonian 45974 2010290 309 14.956 148.783 2.741 43.727 6505.793 612.98 12.66 Croatian 98006 3048816 601 1.232 163.072 13.937 31.108 5072.905 21.15 10.32 Slovak 125030 3791951 595 1.285 210.134 13.274 30.328 6373.027 21.91 10.15 Slovenian 116923 3079564 669 1.087 174.773 12.622 26.338 4603.235 14.90 9.18 Latvian 34585 1364119 262 2.832 132.004 10.294 39.443 5206.561 82.53 7.64 Bengali 22238 1016893 166 9.881 133.964 4.202 45.728 6125.861 410.32 6.89 Estonian 85068 2595046 371 1.493 229.294 12.238 30.506 6994.733 27.27 6.78 Bosnian 31306 1554097 173 2.798 180.960 13.072 49.642 8983.220 102.31 6.33 Lithuanian 133910 3491378 442 1.180 302.964 11.962 26.073 7899.045 16.65 6.24 Esperanto 146163 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11.718 21.678 7492.048 8.47 2.91 Cantonese 15812 562060 109 2.608 145.064 9.851 35.546 5156.514 67.03 2.80 Belarusian (Taraški 36605 1044502 159 1.579 230.220 11.063 28.534 6569.195 27.59 2.78 Belarusian 29477 832000 169 1.100 174.420 13.439 28.225 4923.077 16.27 2.50 Malay 119873 1814281 316 1.069 379.345 7.316 15.135 5741.396 8.36 2.47 Classical Chinese 2523 187252 33 23.707 76.455 3.004 74.218 5674.303 1688.31 2.35 Welsh 32508 1045949 118 1.346 275.492 13.717 32.175 8863.975 24.84 2.18 Tatar 8625 423463 62 2.324 139.113 14.769 49.097 6830.048 79.79 2.13 Hindi 97070 1256807 214 2.931 453.598 3.294 12.947 5872.930 28.29 2.07 Egyptian Arabic 7311 297541 73 2.050 100.151 13.344 40.698 4075.904 56.07 2.00 Wu 2906 157885 51 2.398 56.980 15.987 54.331 3095.784 91.97 1.96 Breton 37693 1015556 134 1.175 281.291 12.388 26.943 7578.776 17.10 1.95 Irish 12563 479246 91 1.276 138.055 16.760 38.147 5266.440 27.29 1.95 Low Saxon 17437 529779 114 1.237 152.956 13.580 30.382 4647.184 20.79 1.92 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6.873 26.284 1399.725 54.82 0.99 Limburgian 6658 275584 35 2.001 190.229 13.794 41.391 7873.829 55.21 0.97 Kirghiz 1532 47058 45 2.302 34.044 9.302 30.717 1045.733 49.30 0.96 Crimean Tatar 1563 80128 24 3.559 65.125 11.244 51.266 3338.667 142.44 0.96 Fiji Hindi 3260 96594 47 1.981 69.362 9.939 29.630 2055.191 39.01 0.93 Lojban 1125 77552 16 3.825 70.312 14.287 68.935 4847.000 209.02 0.87 West Flemish 4327 215559 26 2.024 166.423 16.474 49.817 8290.731 67.49 0.87 West Frisian 20178 474248 71 1.028 284.197 11.589 23.503 6679.549 12.25 0.85 Javanese 33400 512272 103 1.122 324.272 7.229 15.337 4973.515 9.10 0.84 Lombard 20432 702945 45 1.149 454.044 16.007 34.404 15621.000 21.15 0.83 Assyrian Neo-Aramaic 1268 58585 25 2.449 50.720 13.397 46.203 2343.400 80.33 0.82 Somali 1959 64907 38 1.817 51.553 11.763 33.133 1708.079 38.82 0.81 Telugu 48003 618245 114 1.151 421.079 5.987 12.879 5423.202 7.93 0.79 Pashto 2376 97059 26 2.821 91.385 10.690 40.850 3733.038 85.08 0.78 Navajo 2024 91714 21 4.240 96.381 8.647 45.313 4367.333 155.47 0.77 Scots 6573 182065 49 1.216 134.143 12.502 27.699 3715.612 18.47 0.74 Faroese 4894 192830 30 1.691 163.133 14.643 39.401 6427.667 41.86 0.74 Min Nan 8702 307415 33 1.739 263.697 12.899 35.327 9315.606 38.99 0.74 Aymara 1185 45882 27 2.405 43.889 11.371 38.719 1699.333 65.77 0.74 Quechua 16442 436161 42 1.713 391.476 9.779 26.527 10384.786 28.68 0.70 Ladino 2595 106473 25 2.129 103.800 13.114 41.030 4258.920 59.43 0.70 Wolof 1100 70078 14 3.489 78.571 14.192 63.707 5005.571 172.76 0.69 Kurdish 16018 381258 53 1.215 302.226 10.748 23.802 7193.547 15.85 0.69 Chuvash 12555 362948 47 0.977 267.128 14.620 28.909 7722.298 13.96 0.67 Franco-Provençal/Ar 2152 146068 18 1.151 119.556 31.548 67.875 8114.889 41.83 0.65 Cornish 2070 122966 17 1.818 121.765 21.077 59.404 7233.294 69.69 0.65 Emilian-Romagnol 1346 43068 26 3.574 51.769 6.996 31.997 1656.462 89.34 0.65 Scottish Gaelic 8351 320372 33 1.002 253.061 19.159 38.363 9708.242 19.25 0.63 Nahuatl 6540 276197 27 1.249 242.222 18.779 42.232 10229.519 29.29 0.63 Upper Sorbian 6605 207679 34 1.433 194.265 12.923 31.443 6108.206 26.54 0.63 Gan 6012 234939 23 2.159 261.391 12.372 39.078 10214.739 57.65 0.61 Extremaduran 1566 64711 23 1.558 68.087 16.154 41.322 2813.522 39.22 0.58 Volapük 118854 2467408 49 1.076 2425.592 10.000 20.760 50355.265 11.58 0.53 Sardinian 2533 84549 22 2.128 115.136 10.670 33.379 3843.136 48.33 0.50 Sakha 7526 194214 31 1.598 242.774 9.935 25.806 6264.968 25.35 0.49 Ligurian 2830 108040 21 1.588 134.762 14.754 38.177 5144.762 37.19 0.49 Guarani 1400 58564 16 2.156 87.500 13.253 41.831 3660.250 61.63 0.46 Banyumasan 3606 111941 25 1.416 144.240 12.851 31.043 4477.640 25.75 0.45 Tibetan 2910 70372 27 2.220 107.778 7.510 24.183 2606.370 37.01 0.45 Meadow Mari 2340 59241 26 2.129 90.000 8.091 25.317 2278.500 36.67 0.45 Chechen 1299 49885 14 3.988 92.786 7.699 38.403 3563.214 122.43 0.43 Bihari 2691 89960 23 1.243 117.000 14.904 33.430 3911.304 23.03 0.43 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42375 793041 139 1.534 304.856 7.386 18.715 5705.331 17.38 0.22 Low Saxon 17437 529779 114 1.237 152.956 13.580 30.382 4647.184 20.79 0.22 Irish 12563 479246 91 1.276 138.055 16.760 38.147 5266.440 27.29 0.18 Luxembourgish 32806 1160690 95 1.131 345.326 16.602 35.380 12217.789 21.24 0.17 Tagalog 51579 881866 124 1.722 415.960 6.281 17.097 7111.823 18.63 0.17 Occitan 27089 977008 88 1.459 307.830 14.667 36.067 11102.364 31.22 0.17 Egyptian Arabic 7311 297541 73 2.050 100.151 13.344 40.698 4075.904 56.07 0.15 Asturian 14712 572471 87 0.918 169.103 20.287 38.912 6580.126 17.10 0.14 Marathi 33778 768805 100 1.613 337.780 8.710 22.761 7688.050 22.67 0.14 Alemannic 9866 351087 81 1.469 121.802 14.413 35.586 4334.407 31.10 0.14 Tatar 8625 423463 62 2.324 139.113 14.769 49.097 6830.048 79.79 0.13 Urdu 16784 433165 78 2.483 215.179 7.411 25.808 5553.397 45.67 0.11 Mongolian 6231 197234 73 1.853 85.356 11.095 31.654 2701.836 38.10 0.11 Wu 2906 157885 51 2.398 56.980 15.987 54.331 3095.784 91.97 0.10 Sinhalese 4716 158427 57 5.004 82.737 5.595 33.594 2779.421 140.12 0.09 Telugu 48003 618245 114 1.151 421.079 5.987 12.879 5423.202 7.93 0.09 Kannada 10816 218036 85 1.521 127.247 7.995 20.159 2565.129 18.50 0.09 Javanese 33400 512272 103 1.122 324.272 7.229 15.337 4973.515 9.10 0.09 Classical Chinese 2523 187252 33 23.707 76.455 3.004 74.218 5674.303 1688.31 0.08 Anglo-Saxon 2630 119595 43 3.302 61.163 10.570 45.473 2781.279 115.26 0.06 Sicilian 16616 530027 57 1.586 291.509 12.333 31.899 9298.719 31.04 0.06 West Frisian 20178 474248 71 1.028 284.197 11.589 23.503 6679.549 12.25 0.06 Kashubian 2763 123013 52 0.973 53.135 22.563 44.522 2365.635 21.37 0.06 Swahili 21604 646578 57 1.539 379.018 11.786 29.929 11343.474 27.93 0.06 Uzbek 7678 422555 39 1.833 196.872 19.425 55.035 10834.744 65.28 0.05 Silesian 1931 136911 31 3.190 62.290 16.921 70.902 4416.484 172.20 0.05 Khmer 2716 71386 51 2.824 53.255 6.873 26.284 1399.725 54.82 0.05 Northern Sami 3561 148529 44 1.652 80.932 15.727 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13.07 0.01 Occitan 27089 977008 88 1.459 307.830 14.667 36.067 11102.364 31.22 0.01 Yiddish 8662 363487 41 2.424 211.268 12.256 41.963 8865.537 72.01 0.01 Scots 6573 182065 49 1.216 134.143 12.502 27.699 3715.612 18.47 0.01 Franco-Provençal/Ar 2152 146068 18 1.151 119.556 31.548 67.875 8114.889 41.83 0.01 Cornish 2070 122966 17 1.818 121.765 21.077 59.404 7233.294 69.69 0.01 Greenlandic 1184 37656 17 2.122 69.647 10.186 31.804 2215.059 45.88 0.01 Ossetian 7728 298428 38 2.668 203.368 10.529 38.616 7853.368 74.92 0.01 Guarani 1400 58564 16 2.156 87.500 13.253 41.831 3660.250 61.63 0.01 West Flemish 4327 215559 26 2.024 166.423 16.474 49.817 8290.731 67.49 0.01 Luxembourgish 32806 1160690 95 1.131 345.326 16.602 35.380 12217.789 21.24 0.01 Serbo-Croatian 42375 793041 139 1.534 304.856 7.386 18.715 5705.331 17.38 0.01 Limburgian 6658 275584 35 2.001 190.229 13.794 41.391 7873.829 55.21 0.01 Meadow Mari 2340 59241 26 2.129 90.000 8.091 25.317 2278.500 36.67 0.00 Chechen 1299 49885 14 3.988 92.786 7.699 38.403 3563.214 122.43 0.00 Hindi 97070 1256807 214 2.931 453.598 3.294 12.947 5872.930 28.29 0.00 Faroese 4894 192830 30 1.691 163.133 14.643 39.401 6427.667 41.86 0.00 Picard 1573 19856 31 1.363 50.742 5.342 12.623 640.516 9.92 0.00 Sardinian 2533 84549 22 2.128 115.136 10.670 33.379 3843.136 48.33 0.00 Venetian 8950 393295 37 1.778 241.892 15.820 43.944 10629.595 50.00 0.00 Tibetan 2910 70372 27 2.220 107.778 7.510 24.183 2606.370 37.01 0.00 Marathi 33778 768805 100 1.613 337.780 8.710 22.761 7688.050 22.67 0.00 Interlingue 1817 76564 18 1.132 100.944 19.769 42.138 4253.556 25.31 0.00 Sicilian 16616 530027 57 1.586 291.509 12.333 31.899 9298.719 31.04 0.00 Papiamentu 1189 45265 14 1.451 84.929 15.534 38.070 3233.214 32.70 0.00 Ligurian 2830 108040 21 1.588 134.762 14.754 38.177 5144.762 37.19 0.00 Bihari 2691 89960 23 1.243 117.000 14.904 33.430 3911.304 23.03 0.00 Burmese 5941 82509 51 1.459 116.490 5.647 13.888 1617.824 12.02 0.00 Pennsylvania German 1761 68326 17 1.302 103.588 16.858 38.800 4019.176 28.56 0.00 Komi 2254 66943 21 1.513 107.333 11.819 29.700 3187.762 27.05 0.00 Upper Sorbian 6605 207679 34 1.433 194.265 12.923 31.443 6108.206 26.54 0.00 Sanskrit 4831 119531 37 0.854 130.568 13.346 24.742 3230.568 9.73 0.00 Tagalog 51579 881866 124 1.722 415.960 6.281 17.097 7111.823 18.63 0.00 Banyumasan 3606 111941 25 1.416 144.240 12.851 31.043 4477.640 25.75 0.00 Tok Pisin 1025 49033 9 4.060 113.889 9.453 47.837 5448.111 155.86 0.00 West Frisian 20178 474248 71 1.028 284.197 11.589 23.503 6679.549 12.25 0.00 Divehi 3569 86246 26 1.729 137.269 8.856 24.165 3317.154 26.47 0.00 North Frisian 1135 26070 15 1.721 75.667 8.442 22.969 1738.000 25.00 0.00 Saterland Frisian 1771 63121 15 1.724 118.067 13.085 35.641 4208.067 38.89 0.00 Min Nan 8702 307415 33 1.739 263.697 12.899 35.327 9315.606 38.99 0.00 Sorani 4138 62385 38 1.084 108.895 7.235 15.076 1641.711 8.50 0.00 Swahili 21604 646578 57 1.539 379.018 11.786 29.929 11343.474 27.93 0.00 Nahuatl 6540 276197 27 1.249 242.222 18.779 42.232 10229.519 29.29 0.00 Javanese 33400 512272 103 1.122 324.272 7.229 15.337 4973.515 9.10 0.00 Banjar 1156 20492 16 1.907 72.250 6.099 17.727 1280.750 22.17 0.00 Chuvash 12555 362948 47 0.977 267.128 14.620 28.909 7722.298 13.96 0.00 Scottish Gaelic 8351 320372 33 1.002 253.061 19.159 38.363 9708.242 19.25 0.00 Komi-Permyak 1785 22538 25 1.220 71.400 5.689 12.626 901.520 8.46 0.00 Romansh 3241 98759 21 1.346 154.333 12.988 30.472 4702.810 23.54 0.00 Gan 6012 234939 23 2.159 261.391 12.372 39.078 10214.739 57.65 0.00 Karachay-Balkar 1630 54467 12 3.715 135.833 7.087 33.415 4538.917 97.82 0.00 Punjabi 1970 51247 15 3.503 131.333 5.778 26.014 3416.467 70.88 0.00 Kalmyk 1831 43845 16 2.197 114.438 7.491 23.946 2740.312 36.15 0.00 Kurdish 16018 381258 53 1.215 302.226 10.748 23.802 7193.547 15.85 0.00 Lingala 1710 77133 11 2.278 155.455 13.761 45.107 7012.091 71.40 0.00 Kinyarwanda 1799 38648 17 1.439 105.824 8.810 21.483 2273.412 18.23 0.00 Sakha 7526 194214 31 1.598 242.774 9.935 25.806 6264.968 25.35 0.00 Telugu 48003 618245 114 1.151 421.079 5.987 12.879 5423.202 7.93 0.00 Lombard 20432 702945 45 1.149 454.044 16.007 34.404 15621.000 21.15 0.00 Quechua 16442 436161 42 1.713 391.476 9.779 26.527 10384.786 28.68 0.00 Kazakh 21492 244242 95 0.591 226.232 7.142 11.364 2570.968 2.50 0.00 Zazaki 3330 108152 17 1.628 195.882 12.357 32.478 6361.882 32.76 0.00 Zamboanga Chavacano 2408 52263 22 0.530 109.455 14.186 21.704 2375.591 3.98 0.00 Corsican 6031 267671 20 0.895 301.550 23.422 44.383 13383.550 18.76 0.00 Friulian 2889 122809 13 1.084 222.231 20.393 42.509 9446.846 23.98 0.00 Udmurt 2553 55594 16 1.401 159.562 9.069 21.776 3474.625 17.80 0.00 Tajik 9320 239337 32 0.770 291.250 14.507 25.680 7479.281 8.61 0.00 Uyghur 2885 94516 13 1.715 221.923 12.066 32.761 7270.462 35.49 0.00 Erzya 1425 52889 9 1.305 158.333 16.105 37.115 5876.556 27.41 0.00 Hawaiian 1769 42377 12 1.209 147.417 10.846 23.955 3531.417 15.84 0.00 Hakka 2121 53750 13 1.042 163.154 12.411 25.342 4134.615 13.47 0.00 Yoruba 12919 231488 37 1.186 349.162 8.197 17.918 6256.432 11.53 0.00 Nepali 13878 115209 57 1.107 243.474 3.940 8.302 2021.211 4.83 0.00 Amharic 10294 216268 31 1.039 332.065 10.305 21.009 6976.387 11.12 0.00 Turkmen 4295 124539 17 1.013 252.647 14.403 28.996 7325.824 14.79 0.00 Võro 4684 118610 20 0.676 234.200 15.108 25.322 5930.500 6.91 0.00 Sundanese 14779 307080 35 0.976 422.257 10.514 20.778 8773.714 10.02 0.00 Novial 2584 137602 10 0.687 258.400 31.560 53.252 13760.200 14.91 0.00 Ido 21729 631223 46 0.371 472.370 21.182 29.050 13722.239 2.92 0.00 Kapampangan 7443 189590 21 1.005 354.429 12.707 25.472 9028.095 12.82 0.00 Central_Bicolano 5049 90546 23 0.617 219.522 11.094 17.933 3936.783 4.22 0.00 Samogitian 12732 239623 34 0.722 374.471 10.931 18.821 7047.735 5.69 0.00 Rusyn 2123 35324 14 0.870 151.643 8.895 16.639 2523.143 6.74 0.00 Pali 2353 75935 13 0.407 181.000 22.934 32.272 5841.154 3.80 0.00 Mazandarani 3101 35242 17 1.012 182.412 5.648 11.365 2073.059 5.79 0.00 Norman 3458 167385 8 1.093 432.250 23.126 48.405 20923.125 27.63 0.00 Walloon 11957 244123 21 1.603 569.381 7.843 20.417 11624.905 20.16 0.00 Hill Mari 4105 27877 27 0.490 152.037 4.557 6.791 1032.481 1.09 0.00 Gujarati 20027 154968 57 0.457 351.351 5.312 7.738 2718.737 1.11 0.00 Ilokano 3788 101858 10 0.869 378.800 14.391 26.890 10185.800 10.86 0.00 Malagasy 16109 147112 28 1.614 575.321 3.494 9.132 5254.000 9.10 0.00 Tongan 1608 26616 6 2.518 268.000 4.705 16.552 4436.000 29.83 0.00 Bishnupriya Manipuri 24752 579291 22 1.290 1125.091 10.219 23.404 26331.409 17.01 0.00 Volapük 118854 2467408 49 1.076 2425.592 10.000 20.760 50355.265 11.58 0.00 Cebuano 42684 977972 41 0.316 1041.073 17.417 22.912 23852.976 1.73 0.00 Maori 6740 106558 12 0.738 561.667 9.095 15.810 8879.833 4.96 0.00 Piedmontese 39586 375511 40 0.554 989.650 6.105 9.486 9387.775 1.87 0.00 Western Panjabi 13000 130881 30 0.223 433.333 8.231 10.068 4362.700 0.41 0.00 Neapolitan 42419 508078 46 0.268 922.152 9.445 11.978 11045.174 0.68 0.00 Gilaki 5961 32378 13 0.775 458.538 3.060 5.432 2490.615 1.84 0.00 Tarantino 8907 74798 13 0.670 685.154 5.029 8.398 5753.692 2.26 0.00 Waray-Waray 101783 869483 53 0.283 1920.434 6.659 8.543 16405.340 0.53 0.00 Pangasinan 3415 33144 7 0.392 487.857 6.970 9.705 4734.857 1.07 0.00 Buginese 8584 58196 14 0.238 613.143 5.477 6.780 4156.857 0.31 0.00 Newar / Nepal Bhasa 69548 596876 18 1.644 3863.778 3.246 8.582 33159.778 8.77 0.00 Haitian 53080 460669 33 0.132 1608.485 7.665 8.679 13959.667 0.13 0.00 Aromanian 61689 121021 12 0.054 5140.750 1.861 1.962 10085.083 0.01 0.00
It seems tentatively that "new depth #2" is the best. This is the simplest formula, without any squaring, and seems to give the most reasonable value for English depth vs. the next highest (German or Spanish), about 13x, versus 35x for "new depth #1" and 84x for "new depth #3".
Other possibility for best is "new depth #4". This is similar to "new depth #2" but divides by arts/activeusers. The theory here is that a large value for articles/activeusers means that relatively few active users are spread thin on a large number of articles, with less consequent depth. But "new depth #4" is basically "new depth #2" * activeusers/arts, and activeusers/arts already appears in the "new depth #2" formula, so we're basically just squaring these values, meaning that we aren't adding anything fundamentally new to the formula. Again this suggests "new depth #2".
These ratios also help spot cases where bot activity will spoof the results. Note that the only WP's where nonart/art is greater than the English WP are Classical Chinese, Macedonian and Bengali, and the only WP where edit/art is greater than English is Ripuarian. These four are exactly the three for which someone previously felt compelled to assign "None" to the depth, plus the one (Bengali) where I noticed lots of bot-created nonarticle pages.
Benwing 07:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hello @Benwing. Your suggestions are very interesting, and if one of the new formulas is applied, would likely motivate local communities, especially in small Wikis, to seek genuine growth, instead of just adding automated pages and edits. I don't know why this hasn't been applied yet, and I was actually looking around on meta to see if someone had made a suggestion for an alternative measure of the quality of a Wiki project, until I found your comments above. Ideophagous (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Splitting article and non-article edits
[edit]It seems to be that what we really need is to have separate counts of both article and non-article edits. The sort of "quality" that we're trying to measure by "nonarticle/article", i.e. how much "discussion" and such there is about particular articles, should simply be qualified directly by total # of non-article edits, to tell us how much discussion activity there is == how much collaboration. This might possibly combined with some sort of nonarticle/article value to make sure that discussion isn't just concentrated in one or a few places, but I suspect that might not even be needed.
On top of that, we really need to have separate consideration for bot and non-bot edits. I'm pretty sure there is a special flag or other such thing inside the settings that indicates whether an account is a bot; at the very least, many of these accounts have a name ending in "...Bot".
Benwing 08:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- In pl wiki we talk not only by talk pages, but we often use IRC or instant messaging (Gadu-Gadu, the most popular in Poland), readers/newbie use special page pl:Wikipedia:Zgłoś błąd w artykule to inform us about errors (it is used in ru, pt, be, ce and es wikis). But I think that number of talk pages (+ wikiprojects + meta_pages and their talk pages) are good indicator, because it could built NPOV. If depth = quality, this is quality of NPOV. We could add for quality of NOR sourced articles/articles. So, in several wikis we have flagged revions option (many action by wikipedians to check articles and new newbie edits) and they are vandalism free. 212.87.229.4 09:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I don't fully understand how this indicator is calculated. What counts as "non-article"? On the Dutch Wikipedia articles are discussed all over the place. The village pump, user talk pages, articles for appraisal/deletion-pages... If really only talk pages of the article pages are taken into account, then the article depth is extremely unreliable. Hiro (talk) 07:46, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Measuring spoofing
[edit]The previous discussion led me to try and come up with a measure that would indicate cases where bot activity is likely to be spoofing our new or old depth values. Again, this whole issue might go away entirely if we had access to the values I mentioned in the previous comment (split bot vs. non-bot values and split article-edit vs. non-article-edit values). But in the meantime, I considered these five measures of spoofing:
- Spoof #1: nonarticles/articles / activeusers/1000"
- Spoof #2: nonarticles/articles / sqrt(activeusers/1000)"
- Spoof #3: nonarticles/articles * edit/activeusers / 1000"
- Spoof #4: nonarticles/articles * edit/activeusers / activeusers/1000 / 1000"
- Spoof #5: nonarticles/articles * edit/activeusers / sqrt(activeusers/1000) / 1000"
Division by 1000 is generally for scaling. We scale activeusers as a raw value down by 1000 to avoid it being too big; similarly, we scale spoof values 3-5 by 1000 to avoid them coming out too big (meaning that a high value of e.g. 1,000 is OK but a high value of 100,000 or 1,000,000 is too high).
The idea of #1 is that lots of nonarticles should legitimately only occur when there are lots of active users; otherwise you've got a lot of bot-created nonarticles.
For #2, I noticed doing #1 that small WP's almost uniformly got high spoofing values, since evidently one of the first things they do is create a whole lot of nonarticles; so I took the sqrt() of activeusers to reduce the effect of size.
This works decently, but Ripuarian ends up pretty low (remember, for Ripuarian, it was edit/activeusers or edit/something that was way too high, rather than nonarticles/articles). So I tried instead multiplying the two figures where if either one is very high, it indicates spoofing. That works well in pushing all the known spoofing WP's (Ripuarian, Classical Chinese, Macedonian, Bengali) up high, but also puts English #21 out of 281 or so.
So that led me to spoof #4, again dividing by activeusers, and from there to #5 with a sqrt(), since once again without it the small WP's swamped the others.
Results for #5 are as follows (along with the values for "new depth #2" and "Depth2/Art", which is actually "NewDepth#2 / articles * 100000" for reasonable scaling):
Sorting by spoof #5: nonarticles/articles * edit/activeusers / sqrt(activeusers/1000) / 1000: Lang Articles Edits ActiveUsers NonArt/Art Art/ActUser Edit/Total Edit/Art Edit/ActUser Depth#2 spoof#5 Depth2/Art Ripuarian 2217 2074036 31 3.110 71.516 227.616 935.515 66904.387 21.94 1181.80 989.84 Classical Chinese 2523 187252 33 23.707 76.455 3.004 74.218 5674.303 2.35 740.53 93.15 Newar / Nepal Bhasa 69548 596876 18 1.644 3863.778 3.246 8.582 33159.778 0.10 406.35 0.14 Norman 3458 167385 8 1.093 432.250 23.126 48.405 20923.125 0.20 255.71 5.85 Volapük 118854 2467408 49 1.076 2425.592 10.000 20.760 50355.265 0.53 244.77 0.44 Tok Pisin 1025 49033 9 4.060 113.889 9.453 47.837 5448.111 0.35 233.19 33.70 Bishnupriya Manipuri 24752 579291 22 1.290 1125.091 10.219 23.404 26331.409 0.29 229.03 1.17 Macedonian 45974 2010290 309 14.956 148.783 2.741 43.727 6505.793 12.66 175.04 27.55 Karachay-Balkar 1630 54467 12 3.715 135.833 7.087 33.415 4538.917 0.32 153.94 19.38 Lingala 1710 77133 11 2.278 155.455 13.761 45.107 7012.091 0.34 152.29 20.16 Bengali 22238 1016893 166 9.881 133.964 4.202 45.728 6125.861 6.89 148.57 31.00 Wolof 1100 70078 14 3.489 78.571 14.192 63.707 5005.571 0.69 147.61 63.02 Lojban 1125 77552 16 3.825 70.312 14.287 68.935 4847.000 0.87 146.57 77.72 Gan 6012 234939 23 2.159 261.391 12.372 39.078 10214.739 0.61 145.40 10.22 Tongan 1608 26616 6 2.518 268.000 4.705 16.552 4436.000 0.07 144.20 4.42 Walloon 11957 244123 21 1.603 569.381 7.843 20.417 11624.905 0.26 128.60 2.21 Navajo 2024 91714 21 4.240 96.381 8.647 45.313 4367.333 0.77 127.79 38.04 Chechen 1299 49885 14 3.988 92.786 7.699 38.403 3563.214 0.43 120.09 33.09 Uyghur 2885 94516 13 1.715 221.923 12.066 32.761 7270.462 0.27 109.36 9.33 Ossetian 7728 298428 38 2.668 203.368 10.529 38.616 7853.368 1.07 107.47 13.81 Yiddish 8662 363487 41 2.424 211.268 12.256 41.963 8865.537 1.22 106.13 14.06 West Flemish 4327 215559 26 2.024 166.423 16.474 49.817 8290.731 0.87 104.07 20.04 Cornish 2070 122966 17 1.818 121.765 21.077 59.404 7233.294 0.65 100.88 31.48 Uzbek 7678 422555 39 1.833 196.872 19.425 55.035 10834.744 1.39 100.57 18.09 Venetian 8950 393295 37 1.778 241.892 15.820 43.944 10629.595 1.04 98.24 11.63 Punjabi 1970 51247 15 3.503 131.333 5.778 26.014 3416.467 0.30 97.70 15.41 Manx 3862 182729 29 2.630 133.172 13.033 47.315 6301.000 0.99 97.32 25.74 Novial 2584 137602 10 0.687 258.400 31.560 53.252 13760.200 0.22 94.57 8.39 Friulian 2889 122809 13 1.084 222.231 20.393 42.509 9446.846 0.29 89.85 9.95 Min Nan 8702 307415 33 1.739 263.697 12.899 35.327 9315.606 0.74 89.16 8.51 Ilokano 3788 101858 10 0.869 378.800 14.391 26.890 10185.800 0.12 88.47 3.30 Quechua 16442 436161 42 1.713 391.476 9.779 26.527 10384.786 0.70 86.78 4.28 Corsican 6031 267671 20 0.895 301.550 23.422 44.383 13383.550 0.42 84.69 6.95 Lombard 20432 702945 45 1.149 454.044 16.007 34.404 15621.000 0.83 84.64 4.05 Limburgian 6658 275584 35 2.001 190.229 13.794 41.391 7873.829 0.97 84.20 14.51 Erzya 1425 52889 9 1.305 158.333 16.105 37.115 5876.556 0.19 80.81 13.27 Silesian 1931 136911 31 3.190 62.290 16.921 70.902 4416.484 1.67 80.02 86.66 Zazaki 3330 108152 17 1.628 195.882 12.357 32.478 6361.882 0.34 79.45 10.27 Nahuatl 6540 276197 27 1.249 242.222 18.779 42.232 10229.519 0.63 77.75 9.68 Crimean Tatar 1563 80128 24 3.559 65.125 11.244 51.266 3338.667 0.96 76.70 61.45 Maltese 2825 156424 34 2.984 83.088 13.897 55.371 4600.706 1.41 74.46 49.92 Swahili 21604 646578 57 1.539 379.018 11.786 29.929 11343.474 1.03 73.14 4.79 Franco-Provençal/Ar 2152 146068 18 1.151 119.556 31.548 67.875 8114.889 0.65 69.65 30.39 Pashto 2376 97059 26 2.821 91.385 10.690 40.850 3733.038 0.78 65.31 33.00 Tatar 8625 423463 62 2.324 139.113 14.769 49.097 6830.048 2.13 63.76 24.68 Faroese 4894 192830 30 1.691 163.133 14.643 39.401 6427.667 0.74 62.75 15.18 Kapampangan 7443 189590 21 1.005 354.429 12.707 25.472 9028.095 0.27 62.58 3.60 Guarani 1400 58564 16 2.156 87.500 13.253 41.831 3660.250 0.46 62.40 32.66 Interlingua 5485 331530 36 1.283 152.361 26.480 60.443 9209.167 1.22 62.25 22.29 Sicilian 16616 530027 57 1.586 291.509 12.333 31.899 9298.719 1.12 61.79 6.71 Bosnian 31306 1554097 173 2.798 180.960 13.072 49.642 8983.220 6.33 60.42 20.21 Maori 6740 106558 12 0.738 561.667 9.095 15.810 8879.833 0.08 59.85 1.20 Saterland Frisian 1771 63121 15 1.724 118.067 13.085 35.641 4208.067 0.34 59.23 19.11 Sinhalese 4716 158427 57 5.004 82.737 5.595 33.594 2779.421 1.60 58.26 33.84 Ladino 2595 106473 25 2.129 103.800 13.114 41.030 4258.920 0.70 57.34 26.89 Turkmen 4295 124539 17 1.013 252.647 14.403 28.996 7325.824 0.25 56.93 5.78 Sakha 7526 194214 31 1.598 242.774 9.935 25.806 6264.968 0.49 56.84 6.54 Ligurian 2830 108040 21 1.588 134.762 14.754 38.177 5144.762 0.49 56.36 17.38 Aragonese 25815 1114754 121 2.107 213.347 13.897 43.182 9212.843 3.54 55.82 13.73 Sardinian 2533 84549 22 2.128 115.136 10.670 33.379 3843.136 0.50 55.15 19.72 Occitan 27089 977008 88 1.459 307.830 14.667 36.067 11102.364 1.88 54.60 6.95 Scottish Gaelic 8351 320372 33 1.002 253.061 19.159 38.363 9708.242 0.63 53.57 7.59 Malagasy 16109 147112 28 1.614 575.321 3.494 9.132 5254.000 0.16 50.68 0.98 Urdu 16784 433165 78 2.483 215.179 7.411 25.808 5553.397 1.44 49.36 8.55 Malayalam 18297 1100065 255 5.753 71.753 8.903 60.123 4313.980 13.06 49.15 71.38 Bashkir 1378 60503 33 4.855 41.758 7.499 43.906 1833.424 1.20 49.00 87.19 Kalmyk 1831 43845 16 2.197 114.438 7.491 23.946 2740.312 0.26 47.59 14.38 Upper Sorbian 6605 207679 34 1.433 194.265 12.923 31.443 6108.206 0.63 47.47 9.53 Sundanese 14779 307080 35 0.976 422.257 10.514 20.778 8773.714 0.36 45.78 2.43 Luxembourgish 32806 1160690 95 1.131 345.326 16.602 35.380 12217.789 1.78 44.84 5.44 Anglo-Saxon 2630 119595 43 3.302 61.163 10.570 45.473 2781.279 1.50 44.29 57.07 Romansh 3241 98759 21 1.346 154.333 12.988 30.472 4702.810 0.37 43.69 11.33 Dutch Low Saxon 4483 206770 39 1.618 114.949 17.618 46.123 5301.795 1.11 43.43 24.80 Amharic 10294 216268 31 1.039 332.065 10.305 21.009 6976.387 0.33 41.16 3.22 Cantonese 15812 562060 109 2.608 145.064 9.851 35.546 5156.514 2.80 40.74 17.71 Pennsylvania German 1761 68326 17 1.302 103.588 16.858 38.800 4019.176 0.37 40.12 21.18 Banyumasan 3606 111941 25 1.416 144.240 12.851 31.043 4477.640 0.45 40.09 12.61 Papiamentu 1189 45265 14 1.451 84.929 15.534 38.070 3233.214 0.32 39.64 26.54 Marathi 33778 768805 100 1.613 337.780 8.710 22.761 7688.050 1.41 39.22 4.16 Hawaiian 1769 42377 12 1.209 147.417 10.846 23.955 3531.417 0.16 38.96 8.89 Yoruba 12919 231488 37 1.186 349.162 8.197 17.918 6256.432 0.36 38.57 2.78 Udmurt 2553 55594 16 1.401 159.562 9.069 21.776 3474.625 0.20 38.49 7.96 Kurdish 16018 381258 53 1.215 302.226 10.748 23.802 7193.547 0.69 37.95 4.32 Hakka 2121 53750 13 1.042 163.154 12.411 25.342 4134.615 0.17 37.78 7.93 Hindi 97070 1256807 214 2.931 453.598 3.294 12.947 5872.930 2.07 37.21 2.13 Cebuano 42684 977972 41 0.316 1041.073 17.417 22.912 23852.976 0.23 37.17 0.53 Emilian-Romagnol 1346 43068 26 3.574 51.769 6.996 31.997 1656.462 0.65 36.71 48.29 Assyrian Neo-Aramaic 1268 58585 25 2.449 50.720 13.397 46.203 2343.400 0.82 36.29 64.68 Greenlandic 1184 37656 17 2.122 69.647 10.186 31.804 2215.059 0.37 36.06 31.04 Interlingue 1817 76564 18 1.132 100.944 19.769 42.138 4253.556 0.40 35.87 22.16 Divehi 3569 86246 26 1.729 137.269 8.856 24.165 3317.154 0.40 35.56 11.15 Tibetan 2910 70372 27 2.220 107.778 7.510 24.183 2606.370 0.45 35.21 15.47 Chuvash 12555 362948 47 0.977 267.128 14.620 28.909 7722.298 0.67 34.81 5.35 Tagalog 51579 881866 124 1.722 415.960 6.281 17.097 7111.823 1.34 34.78 2.60 Welsh 32508 1045949 118 1.346 275.492 13.717 32.175 8863.975 2.18 34.72 6.70 Tarantino 8907 74798 13 0.670 685.154 5.029 8.398 5753.692 0.04 33.80 0.49 Komi 2254 66943 21 1.513 107.333 11.819 29.700 3187.762 0.38 33.28 16.66 Wu 2906 157885 51 2.398 56.980 15.987 54.331 3095.784 1.96 32.88 67.29 Oriya 1045 40140 33 4.833 31.667 6.586 38.411 1216.364 1.05 32.36 100.50 Tajik 9320 239337 32 0.770 291.250 14.507 25.680 7479.281 0.36 32.20 3.84 Bihari 2691 89960 23 1.243 117.000 14.904 33.430 3911.304 0.43 32.06 15.83 Egyptian Arabic 7311 297541 73 2.050 100.151 13.344 40.698 4075.904 2.00 30.92 27.31 Meadow Mari 2340 59241 26 2.129 90.000 8.091 25.317 2278.500 0.45 30.09 19.14 Bavarian 4280 212720 84 3.438 50.952 11.198 49.701 2532.381 3.23 30.04 75.57 Extremaduran 1566 64711 23 1.558 68.087 16.154 41.322 2813.522 0.58 28.91 36.97 Latvian 34585 1364119 262 2.832 132.004 10.294 39.443 5206.561 7.64 28.80 22.08 Võro 4684 118610 20 0.676 234.200 15.108 25.322 5930.500 0.20 28.35 4.36 Samogitian 12732 239623 34 0.722 374.471 10.931 18.821 7047.735 0.27 27.59 2.11 Northern Sami 3561 148529 44 1.652 80.932 15.727 41.710 3375.659 1.14 26.59 32.10 Belarusian (Taraški 36605 1044502 159 1.579 230.220 11.063 28.534 6569.195 2.78 26.02 7.59 Piedmontese 39586 375511 40 0.554 989.650 6.105 9.486 9387.775 0.14 25.99 0.34 West Frisian 20178 474248 71 1.028 284.197 11.589 23.503 6679.549 0.85 25.77 4.19 Georgian 49309 1603969 242 1.905 203.756 11.198 32.529 6627.971 5.16 25.67 10.47 Kinyarwanda 1799 38648 17 1.439 105.824 8.810 21.483 2273.412 0.22 25.08 11.98 Afrikaans 17950 818223 137 1.550 131.022 17.876 45.583 5972.431 3.80 25.01 21.15 Icelandic 31487 1090012 175 1.678 179.926 12.928 34.618 6228.640 3.80 24.98 12.05 Aymara 1185 45882 27 2.405 43.889 11.371 38.719 1699.333 0.74 24.87 62.31 Norwegian (Nynorsk) 67572 1724701 228 1.553 296.368 9.997 25.524 7564.478 3.54 24.60 5.24 North Frisian 1135 26070 15 1.721 75.667 8.442 22.969 1738.000 0.22 24.42 19.20 Breton 37693 1015556 134 1.175 281.291 12.388 26.943 7578.776 1.95 24.32 5.17 Ido 21729 631223 46 0.371 472.370 21.182 29.050 13722.239 0.36 23.76 1.67 Serbo-Croatian 42375 793041 139 1.534 304.856 7.386 18.715 5705.331 1.57 23.47 3.72 Alemannic 9866 351087 81 1.469 121.802 14.413 35.586 4334.407 1.71 22.37 17.38 Irish 12563 479246 91 1.276 138.055 16.760 38.147 5266.440 1.95 22.28 15.49 Pangasinan 3415 33144 7 0.392 487.857 6.970 9.705 4734.857 0.02 22.21 0.56 Pali 2353 75935 13 0.407 181.000 22.934 32.272 5841.154 0.12 20.86 5.16 Asturian 14712 572471 87 0.918 169.103 20.287 38.912 6580.126 1.62 20.48 11.01 Scots 6573 182065 49 1.216 134.143 12.502 27.699 3715.612 0.74 20.40 11.33 Waray-Waray 101783 869483 53 0.283 1920.434 6.659 8.543 16405.340 0.10 20.15 0.10 Banjar 1156 20492 16 1.907 72.250 6.099 17.727 1280.750 0.19 19.30 16.09 Fiji Hindi 3260 96594 47 1.981 69.362 9.939 29.630 2055.191 0.93 18.78 28.39 Rusyn 2123 35324 14 0.870 151.643 8.895 16.639 2523.143 0.11 18.56 5.11 Mongolian 6231 197234 73 1.853 85.356 11.095 31.654 2701.836 1.50 18.53 24.09 Telugu 48003 618245 114 1.151 421.079 5.987 12.879 5423.202 0.79 18.49 1.64 Tamil 32648 811177 188 1.816 173.660 8.825 24.846 4314.771 3.01 18.07 9.23 Serbian 143021 4589809 669 2.137 213.783 10.230 32.092 6860.701 14.63 17.92 10.23 Galician 71830 1998614 265 1.196 271.057 12.668 27.824 7541.940 4.02 17.53 5.59 Khmer 2716 71386 51 2.824 53.255 6.873 26.284 1399.725 0.99 17.51 36.45 Javanese 33400 512272 103 1.122 324.272 7.229 15.337 4973.515 0.84 17.38 2.50 Estonian 85068 2595046 371 1.493 229.294 12.238 30.506 6994.733 6.78 17.14 7.97 Low Saxon 17437 529779 114 1.237 152.956 13.580 30.382 4647.184 1.92 17.03 10.99 Gilaki 5961 32378 13 0.775 458.538 3.060 5.432 2490.615 0.03 16.93 0.52 Mazandarani 3101 35242 17 1.012 182.412 5.648 11.365 2073.059 0.10 16.09 3.13 Esperanto 146163 3620547 418 1.195 349.672 11.283 24.771 8661.596 5.64 16.01 3.86 Central_Bicolano 5049 90546 23 0.617 219.522 11.094 17.933 3936.783 0.16 16.00 3.12 Somali 1959 64907 38 1.817 51.553 11.763 33.133 1708.079 0.81 15.92 41.45 Romanian 160687 5619538 1169 3.407 137.457 7.936 34.972 4807.133 31.61 15.15 19.67 Thai 67540 3457276 822 3.212 82.165 12.152 51.189 4205.932 32.09 14.90 47.51 Armenian 13817 502833 182 2.246 75.918 11.212 36.392 2762.819 4.58 14.54 33.17 Latin 54264 1627848 245 1.080 221.486 14.423 29.999 6644.278 3.82 14.50 7.03 Sanskrit 4831 119531 37 0.854 130.568 13.346 24.742 3230.568 0.42 14.34 8.73 Lithuanian 133910 3491378 442 1.180 302.964 11.962 26.073 7899.045 6.24 14.02 4.66 Neapolitan 42419 508078 46 0.268 922.152 9.445 11.978 11045.174 0.12 13.81 0.27 Kannada 10816 218036 85 1.521 127.247 7.995 20.159 2565.129 1.03 13.38 9.56 Belarusian 29477 832000 169 1.100 174.420 13.439 28.225 4923.077 2.50 13.18 8.48 Arabic 148248 8211026 2224 4.922 66.658 9.354 55.387 3692.008 102.38 12.18 69.06 Basque 100915 2187678 292 0.850 345.599 11.718 21.678 7492.048 2.91 11.79 2.88 Hebrew 119313 11302036 2105 3.142 56.681 22.870 94.726 5369.138 151.26 11.63 126.77 Kirghiz 1532 47058 45 2.302 34.044 9.302 30.717 1045.733 0.96 11.35 62.90 Turkish 168295 10190810 2347 3.954 71.706 12.224 60.553 4342.058 113.43 11.21 67.40 Malay 119873 1814281 316 1.069 379.345 7.316 15.135 5741.396 2.47 10.91 2.06 Slovak 125030 3791951 595 1.285 210.134 13.274 30.328 6373.027 10.15 10.61 8.12 Burmese 5941 82509 51 1.459 116.490 5.647 13.888 1617.824 0.42 10.45 7.07 Haitian 53080 460669 33 0.132 1608.485 7.665 8.679 13959.667 0.03 10.16 0.06 Kashubian 2763 123013 52 0.973 53.135 22.563 44.522 2365.635 1.14 10.10 41.33 Albanian 32558 1012299 287 1.507 113.443 12.400 31.092 3527.174 5.36 9.92 16.48 Nepali 13878 115209 57 1.107 243.474 3.940 8.302 2021.211 0.25 9.37 1.79 Simple English 71247 3096554 767 2.002 92.890 14.479 43.462 4037.228 22.23 9.23 31.20 Sorani 4138 62385 38 1.084 108.895 7.235 15.076 1641.711 0.30 9.13 7.20 Azerbaijani 64310 1323015 342 1.379 188.041 8.649 20.572 3868.465 4.08 9.12 6.34 Acehnese 1525 40612 27 0.988 56.481 13.399 26.631 1504.148 0.36 9.04 23.43 Vietnamese 208197 4736596 1153 2.312 180.570 6.869 22.751 4108.062 18.31 8.85 8.80 Zamboanga Chavacano 2408 52263 22 0.530 109.455 14.186 21.704 2375.591 0.17 8.49 6.87 Buginese 8584 58196 14 0.238 613.143 5.477 6.780 4156.857 0.02 8.35 0.21 Hungarian 191962 10128163 2069 2.386 92.780 15.582 52.761 4895.197 76.92 8.12 40.07 Croatian 98006 3048816 601 1.232 163.072 13.937 31.108 5072.905 10.32 8.06 10.53 Persian 152912 6740512 1798 2.851 85.046 11.446 44.081 3748.894 58.68 7.97 38.37 Finnish 270170 10642804 1836 1.720 147.151 14.483 39.393 5796.734 45.74 7.36 16.93 Bulgarian 117197 4304335 818 1.210 143.273 16.616 36.727 5262.023 16.45 7.04 14.04 Komi-Permyak 1785 22538 25 1.220 71.400 5.689 12.626 901.520 0.17 6.95 9.72 Ukrainian 285074 7042407 1713 2.113 166.418 7.934 24.704 4111.154 28.73 6.64 10.08 Korean 163691 7724647 1932 2.165 84.726 14.909 47.190 3998.264 62.37 6.23 38.10 Indonesian 165235 5114748 1711 2.724 96.572 8.313 30.954 2989.333 38.74 6.22 23.44 Danish 150621 5216266 1252 1.664 120.304 13.000 34.632 4166.347 27.08 6.20 17.98 Slovenian 116923 3079564 669 1.087 174.773 12.622 26.338 4603.235 9.18 6.12 7.85 Greek 62332 2743116 778 1.522 80.118 17.452 44.008 3525.856 20.66 6.08 33.15 Portuguese 686282 26078612 5530 2.869 124.102 9.822 38.000 4715.843 155.83 5.75 22.71 Western Panjabi 13000 130881 30 0.223 433.333 8.231 10.068 4362.700 0.06 5.62 0.42 Swedish 398321 14881995 3122 1.941 127.585 12.704 37.362 4766.815 76.98 5.24 19.33 Gujarati 20027 154968 57 0.457 351.351 5.312 7.738 2718.737 0.14 5.20 0.69 Catalan 342425 7778131 1602 1.346 213.748 9.682 22.715 4855.263 20.88 5.16 6.10 Aromanian 61689 121021 12 0.054 5140.750 1.861 1.962 10085.083 0.00 4.99 0.00 Picard 1573 19856 31 1.363 50.742 5.342 12.623 640.516 0.23 4.96 14.35 Kazakh 21492 244242 95 0.591 226.232 7.142 11.364 2570.968 0.40 4.93 1.87 Norwegian (Bokmål) 303605 9359214 2195 1.446 138.317 12.603 30.827 4263.879 40.00 4.16 13.18 Italian 807892 44819262 8663 2.142 93.258 17.657 55.477 5173.642 327.64 3.77 40.55 Czech 196918 7071056 2148 1.638 91.675 13.614 35.909 3291.926 47.89 3.68 24.32 Chinese 359102 17028458 5356 2.441 67.047 13.780 47.420 3179.324 180.17 3.35 50.17 French 1111637 70031019 15960 3.034 69.651 15.616 62.998 4387.908 756.23 3.33 68.03 Hill Mari 4105 27877 27 0.490 152.037 4.557 6.791 1032.481 0.06 3.08 1.47 Dutch 690308 26080074 5273 1.422 130.914 15.597 37.780 4945.965 116.97 3.06 16.95 Spanish 765643 49833542 15075 3.333 50.789 15.022 65.087 3305.708 754.73 2.84 98.58 Russian 719424 36895648 12061 2.477 59.649 14.749 51.285 3059.087 440.66 2.18 61.25 Polish 806014 28293527 5265 0.811 153.089 19.383 35.103 5373.889 82.77 1.90 10.27 Japanese 752615 38611597 10753 1.662 69.991 19.270 51.303 3590.774 344.45 1.82 45.77 English 3651105 465937891 142855 5.604 25.558 19.324 127.616 3261.614 15470.03 1.53 423.71 German 1240517 93926939 23227 1.822 53.408 26.832 75.716 4043.869 1135.42 1.53 91.53
Here we see that the big WP's are mostly all at the bottom, like we'd expect, and the "known" spoofers (Ripuarian, Classical Chinese, Macedonian, Bengali) are all in the top #11/281. We also catch near the top some known bogus WP's (e.g. Volapuk) and some others that look likely bogus due to their very high edit/activeuser count (Nepal Bhasa, Norman, Bishnupriya Manipuri).
The idea of Depth2/Art is that generally the Depth should increase with #articles. High depth relative to #articles ought to indicate high quality (cf. English with 423.71, vs. Hill Mari with 1.47, also at the bottom of the spoofing list). A high Depth2/Art along with a high spoofing factor indicates a definite problem, where we need to take action, either reporting no depth at all or downweighting the depth.
Benwing 09:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Depth calculation diluted by hollow talk-pages
[edit]The "depth" calculation (in "Wikipedia article depth"), while it might have been valid years ago, has been hindered by the creation of "hollow" talk-pages (especially in enwiki) which merely tag the article's talk-page for a particular WikiProject (often noted as "unrated" and not even edited to improve the slightest errors). A true stub factor (for size < 500 bytes, as 71 words?) could adjust for hollow talk-pages. This problem can be proven mathematically by looking at the single factor "Non-Articles/Articles"; hence, as the count of "Non-Articles" increases (faster than #Articles), the "depth" figure would rise. Also, note that if there were almost zero talk-pages, then the factor "Non-Articles/Articles" would approach zero, sending the resultant depth to zero. Thus, with no talk-pages (or such), depth would indicate almost zero collaboration. Instead, edit-summaries are often used to "talk" about intentions when the revision is saved (as a form of collaboration), but collaboration in edit-summaries is hidden within the revision counts. A better measure would only count talk-pages with 3+ edits, as in "question-response-concur" being 3 minimal edits to a talk-page. Avoid 1 or 2-edit talk-pages, which could be either: an unanswered question, or 2 WikiProject tag-edits, or a question+reword, or a tag+question (unanswered), or a 2-edit question+answer which ruined further discussion. Of course, a study of talk-page edit-counts might indicate that only 4-edit talkpages indicated constructive collaboration. I have seen numerous 2-edit talkpages as years-old WikiProject tag+question (unanswered), or a 2-edit question+shutup, "That question is off-topic or should not be asked here". Bottomline: only count non-article pages with 3 or more edits. A 2-edit page is not much evidence of "collaboration" but rather, level of "housekeeping" by creating hollow pages as tracking devices. Of course, the "uncounting" of hollow-pages could be done as a statistical factor, such as multiply by "0.12" to indicate only a 12% average of talk-pages are non-hollow (with 3+ edits). The non-hollow factor should be redefined for each Wikipedia language, based on statistical samples of how "hollow" the talk-pages are at each wiki. If the non-hollow factor applied to all non-article pages on enwiki, then a depth of 660 would be lowered to 660*0.12 ~= 79, due to most non-article pages being hollow housekeeping entries, rather than discussions by collaborating users. Meanwhile, the depth-metric is mainly about collaboration quality, since it approaches zero when few talk-pages exist. -Wikid77 (talk) 14:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Certainly at first sight, it seems peculiar to square the second term in the formula. I can't see any inidication either here or elsewhere of why 1-Articles/Total is considered to be a good proxy for the stub-ratio, which should presumably be 1-Number_of_Stubs/Number_of_Articles, which would be 0 if all articles were stubs or 1 if no articles were stubs. Since stubs usually have talk-pages with one or more banners indicating that the article is a stub within the scope of certain wiki-projects, and since stubs can and do have associated redirect pages, I can't see why 1-Articles/Total should have any significant correlation with the stub-ratio.Havelock Jones (talk) 16:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
What is the depth of Bengali Wikipedia
[edit]Hi, The Bengali Wikipedia is showing no depth in the list of this page. Can anyone rectify that? Bodhisattwa (talk) 19:41, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorting this table
[edit]... is a bit annoying, because it has to be done manually each time. I thought of redoing it like in this article, then default sorting would be by language name, but ranks wouldn't be messed up if you sorted by depth. I think it's intuitive enough not to cause confusion. Any objections? — Yerpo Eh? 13:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Depth for Belarusian tarashkevica
[edit]somebody please fix the value for Belarusian taraskevica (be-tarask, formerly be-x-old). --Jarash (talk) 09:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Persian in Trends Section
[edit]Depth rank of Persian (with more than 500,000 articles) in wikis more than 200,000 articles is 5 and in wikis more than 100,000 article is 7 and in wikis more than 10,000 article is 10, however it is not mentioned in "Trends" section among 30 largest languages!! --برسام (talk) 08:36, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
- The table refers to the 30 largest Wikipedias in November 2008 (see note). --Antonio1952 (talk) 11:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
- thanks, so it should be updated! --برسام (talk) 13:36, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Mistake
[edit]Hi User:Andrybak, Thanks for the details in comments and sorry for my mistake: I was only simplifying (N/A)*(1-A/T) into (N^2)/(A*T), different from the (N^2)/(A^2) of the second line, without noticing that the E/A on the 1st line becomes E/T in the second, therefore balancing the equation. SenseiAC (talk) 16:10, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- SenseiAC, I'm not sure what you mean by "I was only ...", because your edit consisted only of addition of pair of brackets around the formulas. My edit (and its summary) is a response to your edit's summary, and not the edit itself. Addition of random brackets without the wikilink was rolled back in a separate edit. —andrybak (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- Andrybak, I mean that I was simply doing the computation in my head and I mistakenly miss that the beginning of the two lines were different. My edit was only to highlight that (I thought that) there was a problem. Please let me know the correct model to use here in this case. SenseiAC (talk) 16:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- SenseiAC, the correct model to use is to just edit the pages :-) and/or to leave a message on the talk page to start a discussion. Adding broken wiki markup might attract attention of other editors (as it did in this particular case), but is not the best solution. Cheers.
- P.S. See also fuller version of that essay in English. —andrybak (talk) 16:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Second largest depth wiki
[edit]I'm trying to understand how and why sh.wiki has the second largest depth of all wikis. I don't see that much activity in their recent changes, that many changes in some random popular articles, and barely any popular/controversial content discussions. My first edit on sh.wiki was in 2020, yet my user page was created by a bot in 2014. Is that how you get such a high depth (it's nonarticles-squared, remember)? Or is it some bot that made most of 40M edits? The depth number defined like this is, in my opinion, pretty much meaningless measure of wikipedia-something, yet it is used as a relevant argument in the 2021 WMF report on hr.wiki, Croatian Wikipedia Disinformation Assessment-2021. Why does the formula that is supposed to show "how frequently articles are updated" even depend on the number of nonarticles-squared (and not, for example, the number of non-bot *edits* to those articles). Ponor (talk) 13:09, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ponor I agree it is strange indeed and I think Wikimedia Foundation Research team should know better. Maybe this calculation formula can be improved. --Zblace (talk) 04:41, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Depth is a completely irrelevant measure which can be easily manipulated. If you look at the methodology for its calculation, you can raise depth by increasing the number of edits and/or the number of non-article pages. You can simply run a but to make cosmetic edits to articles which will increase the number of edits and thereby depth. You can also run a bot to create talk pages by adding a template to the top which will increase the number of non-article pages as well as the total number of edits and thereby depth. On the one hand, it's good to have a measure with clearly explained methodology; on the other hand, when you know the methodology, you can easily find ways to manipulate it. It's a two-edged sword, so we have to take these measures with a pinch of salt.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:24, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- In Vietnamese Wikipedia Tuanminh01 (a former admin) here has also created welcome pages for IPs therefore increasing the depth of Wikipedia (the bot of Tuanminh01 made approximately half of Viwiki edits) and make the people here blank it out. Thingofme (talk) 01:31, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- Depth is a completely irrelevant measure which can be easily manipulated. If you look at the methodology for its calculation, you can raise depth by increasing the number of edits and/or the number of non-article pages. You can simply run a but to make cosmetic edits to articles which will increase the number of edits and thereby depth. You can also run a bot to create talk pages by adding a template to the top which will increase the number of non-article pages as well as the total number of edits and thereby depth. On the one hand, it's good to have a measure with clearly explained methodology; on the other hand, when you know the methodology, you can easily find ways to manipulate it. It's a two-edged sword, so we have to take these measures with a pinch of salt.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:24, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Table
[edit]I personally think the numbers should be included with the table to the right. It makes it easier to rank the entries. Thanks, Caehlla2357 (talk) 06:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Edit:It is (relatively) fine on computer versions, with a difference of only ~1 line, but may get horrible on the desktop version on mobile. Caehlla2357 (talk) 06:33, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
This page needs to be updated the rankings
[edit]The 30 largest wikis are not updated since 2008, and now the ranks are changed dramatically since then. Also we can calculate depth of other Wikimedia projects:
- Wikidata: 0.03
- Commons: 0.64 (edits are not often)
- English Wiktionary: 0.195
Other Wikimedia projects have less depth than Wikipedia, mostly below 1. Thingofme (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- Meta, if count in this algorithm will result in a number of 18,833 depth (highest) Thingofme (talk) 10:11, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- On the other hand Wikidata has a low depth, about 0.03. Commons, even welcoming all users the depth is only ... 0.64. Thingofme (talk) 16:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- The largest depth in 200 largest Mediawiki wikis is Metawiki, with a number of 18,800. The lowest is probably sh.wiktionary at approximately 4.55*10^-5, about 400 million times smaller than Meta. So that means by an point of view, Meta is 400 million times larger than sh.wiktionary? Thingofme (talk) 02:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- On the other hand Wikidata has a low depth, about 0.03. Commons, even welcoming all users the depth is only ... 0.64. Thingofme (talk) 16:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Depth Calculator
[edit]I have added Article Depth Calculator in 'External link and it would helpful to small wiki to analysis and plan to increase the article depth. AntanO 19:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Is article depth still a relevant metric nowadays?
[edit]For quite a while now, we've had an easy and frequently-updated -- but not realtime-updated -- metric of word count on content pages. Isn't using the word count per content page a more interesting metric than the obscure calculation on content/non-content ratios? The calculation is simple: word count divided by content pages, and that should give us an average word count per article, which would be a better quality metric than the current depth that we have. Not that I intend to replace depth with this metric, but rather supplement whatever quality indicator we have now with this. —Jagwar • grrrr... / homewiki 17:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)