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Meta-Wiki has a small active community. When a normal user requires the assistance of an [[<tvar|sysop>Special:MyLanguage/Meta:Administrators</>|administrator]] or [[<tvar|bureaucrat>Special:MyLanguage/Meta:Bureaucrats</>|bureaucrat]] for some particular task, it is not always easy to find one. This page helps users find one when they need one; asking specific admins directly via their talk pages is one way to elicit a fast response. It is only for assistance required at Meta-Wiki, help for other wikis needs to be requested at those wikis.

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Removing of ´crat flag

Could someone remove my flag please, at the moment there are enough helpful hands. If needed I can reactivate. Thanks --WizardOfOz ^talk 14:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. Let us know when you want it back :) Jafeluv 14:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your work, WizardOfOz. Hope to see you back! Best, -- Marco Aurelio 21:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Aww, I hope you're not taking a wiki-break? Thanks for being an awesome crat and a great community member. Hope to see you around. Theo10011 22:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Could someone please grant the flag again? As it looks, I will have much free time probably until the end of the year, so wuld be glad to help out. --WizardOfOz ^talk 20:15, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Quentinv57. --WizardOfOz ^talk 20:21, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

No problems. Welcome back ! ;-) -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:23, 24 September 2011 (UTC))

Comment Frankly, I think it is a very, VERY, poor misuse of the tools to get them and then ask the to be removed for small period. Such actions often seem pointy/whiningly. Flags are not playthings. I have to take time off (Afghanistan and Libya), and with bombs and bullets firing shot at me, yet I've still manage act as a steward for WMF (even perma-banning; using IRC and via emails. The problem, as I (and many others) see it is one if childishness. He said, She said. 99% of issues are stupid and based on. Remember, Wikipedia is JUST a website. Not, a warning People that can not converse in neutral and civil will find themselves banned for the discussion. (I bind other stewards to do likelise) fr33kman 00:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Answer to Fr33kman: We have spoke enough about my health constellation on IRC. Therefore, I wanted to retire at all, because in case of cancer I wouldn´t be able to do nothing and removing of crat flag was the second step (already removed admin bit on bswiki). But as it looks things are going better, and the worst case has not occured. So I´m feeling psychically better now and can look forward to be more active. Thats why asked for the flag back. But if you think that such requests shouldn´t be done, feel free to remove the flag (even if meta is not that beaurocratic in this case) and i can run for it again. --WizardOfOz ^talk 10:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

YES, well, don't I feel a heel now. :( Sorry! fr33kman 18:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Https security compromised by global message

Hi,

The current and future global notice messages visible on all wikimedia project seems to compromise the HTTPS security because of some URL using the http: prefix (See bugzilla:31446).

Can anyone remove the http: prefix from all messages in order to use protocol relative URL ?

--DavidL 10:42, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

If I understood it correctly, someone should remove every http: and https: occurrency from the MediaWiki namespace, and protocol-relative URLs would always work. If it's confirmed to work, someone should just run a bot for it. I thought Roan was going to do it? Nemo 09:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes it should be removed from all messages ; I was thinking first about Special:NoticeTemplate where these messages are visibles on multiple projects, so HTTPS security is compromised everywhere.

It is OK to use protocol relative URL because now http and https Wikimedia servers are the same:

• upload.wikimedia.org
• meta.wikimedia.org
• wikimediafoundation.org
• bits.wikimedia.org

...

But http: prefix should be kept only for links to other servers if no https equivalent exist (links do not compromise HTTPS security) :

• wikimedia.limequery.org (https certificate has wrong site: *.limequery.com)

--DavidL 11:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Using bot is not necessary for Special:NoticeTemplate. Removing http: can be done manually.

--DavidL 11:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

ངག་དབང་བསོད་ནམས།

Our this respected user has created many pages in Tibetan language but all of them were deleted because rest of us failed to understand the contents and purposes of them. Both administrators and other users asked him many times to explain a) what were those, and b) why they should be on Meta, but unfortunately he never talks. He also modified comments of other users (translating the signature) and he was warned for that. In 18 August 2011, I blocked him for 1 day because he was continuing with creating those off-topic pages (as it seemed). Today I have deleted another newly created pages (that one was also in Tibetan). Now, I cannot decide what to do exactly. We can block him indefinitely, but maybe he wants to be useful by translating something in Tibetan which we do not understand. On the other hand it is his duty to explain his edits. Please help by sharing your thoughts. Thank you. — [ Tanvir | Talk ] 03:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree we can't block if we're not sure if it's vandalism/disruptive. Nobody else that can check the Tibetan? Savh^ñ 09:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Sadly I see no one here. :/ — [ Tanvir | Talk ] 10:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Would be worth a try to ask at bo:Wikipedia:Community Portal. Sadly, no online translator I've found can make the slightest headway with Tibetian. Courcelles 20:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Seems bo:User:Beaukarpo is very active --Bencmq 20:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Blacklist exemption

Apologies if the wrong place to ask, but I'm trying to use the url http://www.newsonnews dot net/radio/12048-bbc-condemns-umbroy-usmonov-verdict.html in citing a source on Wikinews. It's being caught by the spam blacklist. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:30, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

The right place to ask would be Talk:Spam blacklist. Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 14:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, someone else has pointed out this is a copyvio of a BBC presser anyway. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Deletion request in own userspace

Seems the {{delete}} template doesn't work on a .js page. Can a sysop delete User:CharlieEchoTango/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js? Thank you. [[CharlieEchoTango]] 20:24, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

That was quick. Thanks --[[CharlieEchoTango]] 20:26, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Done, deleted. Greetings, Savh^ñ 20:27, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

For your information, yes the template does work on .js pages as well. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:28, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Move of two move protected pages

• Template:Wikimedia Foundation -> Template:Main Page/Wikimedia Foundation/Code done.
• Template:Sisterprojects/ia -> Template:Main Page/Sisterprojects/ia done.

The move protection should perhaps be removed. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 21:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Was there any discussion or consensus regarding this? Tiptoety ^talk 06:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I do not believe such a thing is necessary on matters concerning the meta main page as there is little interest to the point where most of the main pages were outdated by several years before the unification efforts. You can observe this on Talk:Main Page where replies are scarce. A comment posted there typically gets ignored. This is part of the general unification of the main page. Only two pages listed above remain to be moved.

Do you have an actual objection because this is the first time on meta I have observed someone looking for discussion or consensus regarding page moves. The absence of a "requests for page move" is for a reason.

-- とある白い猫 ^chi? 07:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) No there wasn't. I have asked the user not to proceed with these changes on IRC and was ignored, then I was told he couldn't stop anymore because everything was done, with a smiley. When asked if there was consensus for the move, he said he didn't bother to ask, as nobody "cared about the main page" (Text is mine, as I'm not publicly posting the logs of IRC). Later on, when asking any admin on IRC to move these pages, he didn't provide a reason for the move, and informed me he would ignore me permanently on IRC, when I asked him for a reason. In my opinion, this user tries to solve problems that don't exist, causing a mess in Recent Changes and IRC. Savh^ñ 08:11, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Have you posted something to my talk page? Have you posted something to the talk pages of any of the involved templates? In fact have you posted anything on the wiki regarding the changes? You are under the impression I have highlights turned on, when in fact they are turned off. I do not use highlights. Also, I will ignore people on IRC as I see fit. As I told you on IRC before ignoring you, if you have an objection raise it on the relevant wiki page. Don't demand a discussion or consensus for the sake of having one. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:20, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. When asked something on IRC, I consider it very unpolite to evade the answer and ignore me, what you are doing here again. Savh^ñ 08:22, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't see your question. You are saying that the pages shouldn't be moved because it "isn't necessary". Do you have a strong objection or are you objecting for the sake of objecting? -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I am asking you a reason for the move, and objecting because there isn't one at the moment, as far as I've understood. Savh^ñ 08:30, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

The move is part of the main page unification. It will simplify the explanation to translators as to which pages and subpages they need to edit as well as making it easier to establish which templates relate to the main page. Furthermore it will simplify the code of the templates increasing its readability. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:33, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually it looks to me like it was done yesterday? --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Currently Template:Main Page/Wikimedia Foundation/Code is unfortunately a copy paste of Template:Wikimedia Foundation. I would want it to preserve edit history. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:38, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I think this is quite subjective, and a discussion should have taken place. How can "simplifying the code of the templates increase its readability"? I don't think you need to be an expert in codes to read the main page, or even to find out how to translate it. Savh^ñ 08:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Right. Which is why now it is as simplified as clicking a few edit links rather than trying to figure out what an entire block of code supposed to mean. As you can see it is much easier to tell which part of the code relies on sub pages of the main page when they are all marked as such through their names.

Main page has been translated to about 50 languages already and are up to date with the information as they all will present the same information even if new information is added. If anything, translation is a lot easier now as changes to the English page shows up on all translations immediately prompting editors what exactly is new and in need of translation. Before the unification languages remained outdated by several years up to half a decade on few occasions.

-- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:40, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

So templates that aren't sub pages of the main page shouldn't be translated? Savh^ñ 08:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I do not know how you reached that conclusion. I clarified my above post in the meanwhile. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I've completed the two requested page moves cause I can indeed see an improvement (though it's very small and it's questionable to spend so much time and to do so many changes for such a small improvement), furthermore he already did so many changes that reverting everything would be much more work and would have resulted in an even worse mess than just completing the two requested page moves. But I can agree that such things should be discussed first. - Hoo man (talk) 18:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Semiprotect request Template:EditUrl

Because Template:EditUrl generates an edit link it should perhaps be semi or full protected. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 09:08, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Not done, no reason for protection. Not even main page is recursively protected, by the way. Nemo 10:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem I I fear this may open people for phisihing or spam. The template is mass transcluded and appears like a regular "edit" link. Like main pages it should at least be semi protected but if you do not see a reason for it, that is fine too. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 14:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Supporting the Translate extension on Meta

Hoi, the Translate extensionr has been enabled on Meta. As a consequence there is a new type of user, the Translation administrators. As it makes sense to provide help with both documentation and instruction, I request bureaucrat rights that will enable me to do so. Thanks, Gmeijssen 13:02, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmm where is the need for those tools? Can you be more clear? Providing documentation and instructions doesn´t seem to be a good reason for me. --WizardOfOz ^talk 15:10, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

PS: Next time use this account so i know who I´m talking to :D. How long would you need it and which account should be granted with this tools? --WizardOfOz ^talk 15:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

• Having good tooling for translators IS essential. The current toolset is not flexible. Does not support statistics and changes in documents.
• Providing support for the Translate is something I will be doing as a Wikimedia Foundation employee. That is why I will do it as Gmeijssen and not GerardM. Gmeijssen 07:36, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

PS it will still be me who is doing it :)

If you need bureaucrat access (as member of the foundation staff), you may make an informal RfB on m:RfA. -Barras 07:39, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Per Barras, request it please on m:RfA and add how long it will be needed. --WizardOfOz ^talk 16:33, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

It's very nice that we have the Translate extension on Meta! I don't understand how it's going to be used. Are we still in a test period? We need to write down some guideline about it, in any case. Translation administrators should follow the usual request for access page with some (simple process). Moreover, we should probably give pagetranslation permission to all sysops and/or allow sysops to add the group. Nemo 17:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)