Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Wikisource/Create integrated interwiki mechanism for Wikisource

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Français: Créer un mécanisme interwiki intégré spécifique pour Wikisource.

• Problem: Interwiki mechanism based on a single Wikidata item used in Wikipedia is not suitable for Wikisource. Wikisource can present multiple editions of the same text as well as multiple translations to a single language, eg. made by various translators. The Wikidata model used to store information from Wikisource is two-level, based on "work" and "edition" Wikidata elements. The purpose of this proposal is to create an implementation of link-based interwiki system that used this model and is integrated with MediaWiki.

  Français: Le mécanisme interwiki basé sur un seul élément Wikidata utilisé dans Wikipedia ne convient pas pour Wikisource. Wikisource peut présenter plusieurs éditions du même texte ainsi que plusieurs traductions dans une seule langue, par exemple, fait par divers traducteurs. Le modèle Wikidata utilisé pour stocker les informations de Wikisource est à deux niveaux, basé sur les éléments "travail" et "édition" de Wikidata. Le but de cette proposition est de créer une implémentation du système interwiki basé sur les liens qui utilise ce modèle et qui est intégrée à MediaWiki.

• Who would benefit: All Wikisources

  Français: Tous les Wikisources

• Proposed solution: JavaScript based implementation is used in Swedish Wikisource. However, links created using JavaScript are visible only by browsers with JavaScript enabled. If the mechanism is integrated with MediaWiki, the links are available to any HTML parsing tool, eg. indexing machines. Another disadvantage of the Swedish solutiuon is that it needs to be maintained separately by each Wikisource. Wikisource communities are small and have no resources to do this. The suggested solution is to make the links integrated with page's HTML code by MediaWiki.

  Français: L'implémentation basée sur JavaScript est utilisée dans Wikisource suédois. Cependant, les liens créés en utilisant JavaScript sont visible uniquement par les navigateurs avec JavaScript activé. Si le mécanisme est intégré à MediaWiki, les liens sont disponibles pour n’importe quel fichier HTML, outil d'analyse, par exemple, machines d'indexation. Un autre inconvénient de la solution suédoise est qu’il doit être entretenu séparément par chaque Wikisource. Les communautés Wikisource sont petites et n'ont pas ressources pour le faire. La solution suggérée est de faire les liens intégré au code HTML de la page par MediaWiki.

• More comments: In pre-Wikidata interwiki implementation, multiple interwikis to a single wiki worked fine and were used in Wikisource. So invention of Wikidata became actually a degradation of interwiki system in Wikisources.

  Français: Dans l'implémentation interwiki antérieure à Wikidata, plusieurs interwikis sur un seul wiki fonctionnait bien et était utilisé dans Wikisource. Ainsi, l'invention de Wikidata est devenue en réalité une dégradation du système d'interwiki dans Wikisources.

• Phabricator tickets: phab:T128173, phab:T180304
• Proposer: Ankry (talk) 16:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

• Comment @Tpt: is this linked with T180303 ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 17:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

  Yes, except T180303 is about the other projects sidebar and not interlanguage links. But it should be fairly easy to implement if the interlanguage links have been fixed. Tpt (talk) 20:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

• Wikipedia have same problem as well. C933103 (talk) 02:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Voting

• Support <3 Matlin (talk) 19:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Libcub (talk) 11:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Peter Alberti (talk) 17:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support JAn Dudík (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:21, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Hatchiko (talk) 05:08, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Satdeep Gill (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਵਿਰਦੀ (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Armaan kakrala (talk) 07:13, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Harshaan Ghuman (talk) 07:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Simranjeet Sidhu (talk) 07:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Dugal harpreet (talk) 07:17, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Jagvir Kaur (talk) 07:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support @Lea Lacroix (WMDE): ;) VIGNERON * ^discut. 12:35, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 13:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Micru (talk) 14:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support - thought it was already worked on ^^--Hsarrazin (talk) 17:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Aristoi (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Ninovolador (talk) 20:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Thurs (talk) 20:22, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support maybe something with qualifiers on wikidata links can be used for this ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support I wholeleartedly support initiatives extended towards the wellbeing of Wikipedia's sister projects; Wikisource is vibrant in Polish and deserves support - one of the forms being this extension idea. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 21:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support PiotrekD (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Mend My Way 23:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Zdzislaw (talk) 00:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Candalua (talk) 06:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Toto256 (talk) 06:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Salicyna (talk) 18:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Alex brollo (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Vulphere 07:19, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 15:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Gce (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Balajijagadesh (talk) 18:46, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Bodhisattwa (talk) 01:11, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Kaviraf (talk) 11:44, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support --*j*jac (talk) 11:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 01:02, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support --Acélan (talk) 13:10, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Wuyouyuan (talk) 20:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Sturban (talk) 04:04, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Vieux têtard (talk) 07:59, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Cobalt~frwiki (talk) 10:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Krokus (talk) 13:02, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support — AfroThundr ^{(u · t · c)} 03:04, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support PMG (talk) 11:54, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Zeetendra ^») 13:54, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Viticulum (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Zyephyrus (talk) 18:19, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Obviously εΔω 17:48, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Edhral 07:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support Oh yes. Interwikis that are not 1:1 are very difficult to manage. For Wikisource we often have two translations, and I would really like to a) see both from the original, b) see link to original in both — NickK (talk) 15:51, 30 November 2018 (UTC)