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Translation progress[edit]

Hey, Minorax and Hasley

First of all thank you for all the work in preparation of translation of SWViewer and SWViewer/header.

I am just opening this thread to track translation progress. I see that you guys are fixing little issues. Please ping me once the page is actually ready and have no issues left, so that I can announce it at various places to get translators.

I have also added you two to SWViewer/members, in case you don't want feel free to remove yourself.

To other translators or who wish to help with documentation, if you wish please add yourself to SWViewer/members too. Thanks in advance! ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The latest version looks good from my eyes, but perhaps needs a little tweaking. CC 1997kB and Minorax. Sgd. —Hasley 21:54, 25 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1997kB and Hasley: I've added a see also section to link to mediawiki. --Minorax (talk) 04:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Minorax: Btw it was already linked in header. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:51, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1997kB: It isn't prominent enough though. --Minorax (talk) 04:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Minorax: this version seems stable, I think we can proceed now, but would like to suggest changing enwiki articles to Wikidata items. (P.S.: 1997kB, dummy edits are no longer needed. You can mark this page at Special:PageTranslationSWViewer → mark for translation.) Sgd. —Hasley 14:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help with translation[edit]

‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[ADDITION]: Gender[edit]

Type Addition
Setup unknown
  The translation was done in French on translatwiki.net, then others came in to put gender in the sentences. Example: When closing in French: « Êtes-vous sûr ? » or « Êtes-vous sûre ? ». Previously this gave « Êtes-vous sûr{{GENDER||e}} ? ». I corrected as long as there was not the m / fem difference. Kind regards.

Eihel (talk) 19:52, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

(banana library ?)Reply[reply]

Text has been updated after new translation import. cc: User:Eihel ‐‐1997kB (talk) 17:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: Dubious edits[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  What about adding a feature where could be reported dubious edits and dubious newly-created pages (if an user si unsure whether a certain edit or newly-created page is vandalism or not, other users could verify those edits and pages)?

--NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 18:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NGC 54: Are there any pages onwiki where people do such requests or you asking it to be added in SWViewer? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To be added in SWViewer. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 14:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It could look like the log where there are written the last edits/actions made with SWViewer (reverts, warnings, undos...). --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 14:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: Enable patrolling[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Enable patrolling of the displayed edit/diff. This should be available only for patrollers (if not possible, add an option to disable it i.e. remove the button). Maybe a button for this action can be placed at the 1st position (as most of the edits are usually fine). Here's a link to the API reference: MediaWiki API help: action=patrol

StanProg (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support Support. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 12:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[OTHER]: Rollback pings[edit]

Type Other
Setup unknown
  Recently I made an improvement to config.json, preventing users from being pinged, but today someone reported that they got pinged, so I guess my change hasn't been processed yet. My question is: when will SWViewer load the new config?

bdijkstra (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tracked in Phabricator:
task T281033
defaultRollbackPrefix — is parameter for custom rollback: default prefix + custom reason. But here was used normal rollback. String is configured by the MediaWiki, not SWViewer.—Iluvatar (talk) 11:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
UPD: see nlwiki and enwiki. You need to ask about settings of MediaWiki for nlwiki on Phabricator. Sorry for my English.—Iluvatar (talk) 12:09, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see, so apparently both use the same string, but the MediaWiki rollback suppresses the ping. Otherwise I would have received pings from those. So I think this is an issue with SWViewer. --bdijkstra (talk) 12:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bdijkstra, No MediaWiki doesn't supress pings. I get them all the time when people revert to my edits. I guess it's depends upon notification settings. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:39, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This isn't about user A receiving a ping when user B reverts their edit, this is about user C receiving a ping when user B reverts an edit by user A to the last revision by user C. In my notification settings, I have mention pings turned on, but I haven't received this kind of ping in ages, except recently with SWViewer. Presumably this user had the same experience. --bdijkstra (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: Popup notifications[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Hello! I'm enjoying SWViewer, but one thing that I would like added is popup notifications, so that I can see notifications as they come in without having to check the menu. Thank you for the tool!

Tol (talk | contribs) @ 20:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Support. Vukky (talk) 07:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There used to be pop-up notification before we implemented this panel. They used to be very interfering as mostly you get notifications for the edits that has been reverted already by bots or people faster than you and checking them was just waste of time. Even if you do 50 revert with current system, and you get 20 failed reverts, 15-18 of them fails just because someone else has reverted before you. So IMO it's not a good idea to add those in user flow. cc: @Tol and Vukky:. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    1997kB, it'd still be nice to have the option, though. I didn't notice the notification that allowed me to report a user until I checked my notifications much later. Vukky (talk) 09:52, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Is this just your experience or some statistic? Because this vastly depends on which wiki you are patrolling. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    17:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It was not just my experience, other users also reported the issue of delay the previous system used to make. But those statistics were just to make a point. I also forgot to mention is that with the notifications panel we were able to make swviewer considerably faster because now we can process actions in background and don’t have to freeze UI until we get response from wiki about the status of any action. This is significant because if you notice that when you rollback the time it takes to show notification is very high. @1234qwer1234qwer4 @Vukky ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: Thanking[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Could the ability to thank editors be added (from the diff), to spread the WikiLove?

Qwerfjkl (talk) 21:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: Script/Language filter[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Give the ability to filter by the language or the script the Wikis are using. Even though sometimes is easy to see blatant vandalism in unknown scripts or languages, most of the time you'll have no idea what has happened if the change is in a script you cannot understand at all. If language filter may seem too restrictive, I believe a script filter would be overall beneficial.

Klein Muçi (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Klein Muçi, done. Language filter. Iluvatar (talk) 08:24, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iluvatar, thank you! How do I access it exactly? - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Klein Muçi, create/edit preset => Language set. [1] Iluvatar (talk) 10:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! :)) - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iluvatar, maybe these should be proposed on a new thread but I'm going on here just because we already have context provided.
Currently when you add a new language to the filter you created or any other entry on the existing filters, you have no way of knowing if you added it correctly or not. The filters accept every value you provide for them, no matter if they work or not. I tried that out by adding random characters and they still accepted them. It would be good if you were told when the value you provided wasn't correct or made no sense (was unknown) from the SWViewer part.
Secondly, the presets part has always been a bit too underground, at least for me. I keep pressing either the button for queue settings or the other button for the general settings. The little up and down arrow beside the preset name, while elegant in looking, isn't that intuitive in usage. I'd advise for some changes in regard to that:
  1. Make a general interface change to make it more understandable that you have other options in the preset name (like editing the default one or creating new ones).
  2. When you double click on the preset's name, it opens it up for edit. Maybe when you right click on it, it can open it up for a quick rename.
  3. [Important] Add a scroll bar when working with presets popups. 50% of its options don't appear for me in my laptop and if I accidently click outside of them, it closes the popup. Only option to scroll down is with the keyboard. Klein Muçi (talk) 11:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
About the second part, I happens to disagree. There is always going to be a learning curve when using a new software. But what it offers is that we have a less populated interface which also fits nicely when people use SWViewer on small screen devices, for eg mobile. And double click is unnecessary when we have a button to edit the used preset (the Queue setting button works individually for each preset). There’s no scroll bar because preset isn’t too long, but mouse scroll or double finger touchpad scroll works with it. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Klein Muçi ^ ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1997kB, thank you for providing opinions and for the tag!
I don't want to populate the interface either. I'm just thinking of a adding or changing certain minor elements. For example, if we want to keep the up and down arrow style, we can put an underline below the name preset to make it more understandable that it's something you've chosen and that you can change it (choose something else) if you so want. Or, a more heavy-addition, (which can go into the "populate the interface" territory): We can add the word "Preset:" in front of the preset, which only shows if you've already clicked the up arrow to "close" the stream.
As for the other 2 details... I believe double-clicking and right-clicking can be considered subjective ideas (even though I believe having multiple ways to accomplish something could be beneficial) but I would consider the scrollbar a cry for help. I don't have a mouse for my laptop and I've never, so far, used double-finger touchpad scrolls. I went to try it now that you mentioned it and after 5 failed tries, I gave up. I think I might have disabled that option ever since I've gotten the laptop. For the moment, I can only scroll down either by the keyboard or by selecting down all options in the popup and unselecting once the page has reached its bottom (a primal way to do it). I highly doubt adding scrollbars would cause any harm, interface wise or not. Klein Muçi (talk) 10:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Klein Muçi, about the first part. Yes check.svg Done. 1 Iluvatar (talk) 16:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iluvatar, thank you! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[FEATURE]: See past pages[edit]

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  If we switch from a page to another one from the stream that page/edit is gone forever. It would be nice to be able to restore it into the edit screen somehow.

Klein Muçi (talk) 09:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another side effect of the warning is that you can't return to older edits if there's a deleted one between them and the current one. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 09:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[BUG]: Report function adds improper newline before report[edit]

Type Bug
Setup unknown
  See diff on English Wikipedia: it's a list, so a blank line in between the list items ends the list and starts a new one, instead of adding an item to the list. This is minor, but it'd be nice if it was fixed. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 05:06, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Tol Seems no issues and these are unbulleted list after all and I think some noticeboard prefer newline and that's why it was added. (Don't remember exactly which require it). ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:18, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1997kB, this is per English Wikipedia's w:en:WP:LISTGAP guideline section and for accessibility in general; this is problematic because it creates a new list instead of adding another item to the existing list. Would there be any way to change this just for English Wikipedia? Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[ADDITION + FEATURE]: About warnings on eswiki and enwikiquote[edit]

Type Addition + Feature
Setup unknown
 
  • Addition: First of all, on enwikiquote there are some vandal warnings yet to be added: For Spam, Level 1 and Level 2 (Last). Promotional/Advertising Spam: Only warring. Vandalism: 1 (more like for test edits in general), Level 2 (vandalism in general), Level 3, Level 4, there's also another warning, but it should be used only by admins, Lvl 5. Please add them, they're necessary. Also: vandals who passed the 4th or only warning, should be reported on q:Wikiquote:Vandalism in progress, with the following syntax, for IP addresses: * {{IPvandal|INSERT IP ADDRESS}}<br> Vandalism after the last or only warning. ~~~~ and * {{Vandal|INSERT USER}}<br>Vandalism after the last or only warning. ~~~~ for accounts. The header or thread text should read: New report {{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTTIME}}
  • Feature: On the other hand, I noticed that there's a problem with the speed deletion warnings in Spanish Wikipedia. SWViewer is using speedy deletions warnings from Huggle, which are now outdated and we now use the following syntax: {{subst:Aviso destruir|PAGE NAME HERE|REASON HERE}} ~~~~. The other speedy deletion criteria can be found in es:WP:CBR.

-Alabama- (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@-Alabama- All of these can be changed by anyone. You just need to edit SWViewer/config.json. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[TEST REQUEST]: Request for testing SWViewer in Edge[edit]

Type Test request
Setup Microsoft Edge
  Could anyone test SWviewer and see if it works properly on Microsoft Edge?

105.105.60.55 14:44, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It does. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[BUG]: SWViewer transmits no user agent[edit]

Type Bug
Setup WMCS
  The hosted version of SWViewer on WMCS (formerly labs) sends no user agent information

Guerillero Parlez Moi 10:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]