Stewards/confirm/2011/Magister Mathematicae

Magister Mathematicae

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English:

• Languages: en, es and halfunderstand several other romance languages
• Personal info: Hello. Before anything, to clear any confusion, yes I'm the user who used to go by the name "drini", but I changed it due to off wiki reasons.

  I've served community another year as steward and humbly request your comments about my steward work™ (and as always I also welcome comments about my other duties, feel free to drop them in my user talk to keep things organized).

  To those reviewing my work this year I acknowledge I was less active over 2010 than previous, and the reason is that I'm on the final track of my PhD work and that sadly took wiki time away. However I should be more active soon as I close that cycle. I also had a few of bloopers mostly due to the username change (after many years the brain gets hardwired) but I've got things sorted out now.

  I'd be thrilled to listen your recommendations and comments but mostly I'd be honored if you would grant me your patience and trust for another year. es:Magister Mathematicae 00:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

español:

• Idiomas: es, en y medioentiendo varios otros idiomas similares al español
• Información personal: Hola, antes que nada aclaro cualquier posible malentendido: sí, soy el usuario que se llamaba "drini" pero lo cambié por razones ajenas a la wiki.

  Ha pasado otro año en el que sirvo de voluntario a la comunidad como mayordomo, por lo que te solicito comentarios sobre mi labor como mayordomo™ (como siempre también agradezco comentarios sobre mis otras funciones, siéntete libre de dejarlas en mis discusiones para mantener las cosas organizadas).

  A los que revisen mi trabajo del año, reconozco que fui menos activo durante 2010 que en años anteriores y la razón e que estoy en la etapa final de mi doctorado y ello desafortunadamente me quitó tiempo de la wiki, pero al cerrar ese ciclo volveré a tener la misma actividad. Tuve también varios gafes, principalmente relacionados con el cambio de nombre de usuario (después de tantos años, la costumbre pesa) pero ya parece estar todo bien.

  Me encantaría escuchar tus recomendaciones y comentarios, pero más que nada me honraría si me otorgaras tu paciencia y confianza un año más. es:Magister Mathematicae 00:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Nederlands:

• Taalvaardigheid: es, en en ik versta verschillende op Spaans gelijkende talen redelijk
• Persoonlijke informatie: Hallo. Allereerst dit, om verwarring te voorkomen: ja, ik ben de gebruiker die bekend stond onder de naam "drini", maar dat heb ik veranderd om buiten wikipedia gelegen redenen.

  Ik heb de gemeenschap het afgelopen jaar opnieuw als steward ondersteund en verzoek nederig om uw commentaar op mijn stewardwerkzaamheden™ (en zoals altijd verwelkom ik ook commentaar op mijn andere activiteiten, voel u vrij om die op mijn overlegpagina te plaatsen om de zaken overzichtelijk te houden).

  Aan degenen die mijn werk het afgelopen jaar beoordelen geef ik toe dat ik in 2010 minder actief was dan voorheen, en de reden daarvoor is dat ik in de laatste fase van mijn PhD-werk zit en dat kostte helaas wikitijd. Zodra die cyclus voorbij verwacht ik actiever te worden. Ik heb ook enkele vergissingen begaan als gevolg van mijn naamswijziging (na een aantal jaren roesten de hersenen wat vast) maar ik heb alles weer rechtgezet.

  Ik zal graag naar uw aanbevelingen en commentaar luisteren, maar het meest van alles zou het me een eer zijn als u me opnieuw voor een jaar uw geduld en vertrouwen wilt schenken. es:Magister Mathematicae 00:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

русский:

• Языки: en
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Tiếng Việt:

• Ngôn ngữ: en, es và hiểu được đôi chút một số ngôn ngữ nhóm Roma khác
• Thông tin cá nhân: Xin chào. Trước tiên tôi cần phải làm rõ, để tránh nhầm lẫn về sau, vâng, tôi là thành viên đã từng sử dụng tài khoản "drini", nhưng tôi đã đổi tên vì một số lý do ngoài wiki.

  Tôi đã phục vụ cộng đồng với vai trò tiếp viên trong một năm và thật sự muốn bạn nói vài lời bình luận về công việc tiếp viên của tôi™ (và như thường lệ, tôi cũng hoan nghênh các ý kiến phản ánh về mình, cảm thấy thoải mái hơn nếu chúng được viết vào trang thảo luận cá nhân của tôi để giữ mọi thứ có tổ chức).

  Xem xét về công việc của tôi trong năm nay, tôi thừa nhận là mình đã ít hoạt động trong năm 2010 hơn so với trước đây, và lý do là tôi đang kết thúc công trình tiến sĩ của mình và thật đáng buồn là phải hy sinh thời gian ở wiki đi. Tuy nhiên tôi đã tích cực hơn ngay sau khi công việc của mình hoàn tất. Tôi cũng mắc phải một số sai lầm liên quan đến đổi tên thành viên (sau nhiều năm không còn minh mẫn như trước) nhưng bây giờ tôi đã sắp xếp mọi chuyện ổn thỏa.

  Tôi rất vui mừng khi được nghe những khuyến nghị và bình luận của các bạn, nhưng chủ yếu là vinh dự nếu các bạn trao tặng tôi sự tín nhiệm và kiên nhẫn thêm một năm nữa. es:Magister Mathematicae 00:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments about Magister Mathematicae

• —DerHexer (Talk) 00:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC) A new user name but still a good steward!
• Keep & strongly. One of the best stewards in my opinion. No objections. Provides good advice too. Deals with permissions and all kinds of disruption. Magister Mathematicae has my full trust. -- Dferg ^{☎ talk} 00:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Keep for sure but i liked your old username much more that this Mardetanha ^talk 00:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• keep. Nixón 00:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Edmenb ( Mensajes ) ^{Wikipedia en Español} 01:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep, good steward, strong commitment and great job. Marinna 01:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• -- Màñü飆¹5 ^talk _es 01:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC) Keep doing a great job, as always! retract.-- Màñü飆¹5 ^talk _es 03:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Grunny (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• behold Thank you for doing this job. I like your new name, btw ;) Finn Rindahl 01:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep -FASTILY ^(TALK) 02:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Probably one of the more committed stewards on the project Saloca 06:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep, of course --Jan eissfeldt 08:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Good work --Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:10, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 11:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep mickit 14:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Renames are confusing, but otherwise he is a very active steward doing good work. Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 14:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Miaou ?' DarkoNeko 15:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep - Maximillion Pegasus 16:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Excelent steward doing excelent work ;) Savh^ñ 16:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Melos 17:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --WizardOfOz ^talk 19:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• confirm for good work, but the name is impossible to remember! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep -Barras 20:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep - Trijnstel 20:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep — Tanvir • 03:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Barcex 16:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep -- Avi 18:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Ecemaml 21:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Mar del Sur 22:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. A good steward, but not perfect. The Stewards policy says that the stewards should avoid conflict of interests. Conflict of interests may not occur only on a homewiki. If an user is a sysop of a project we can conclude that he has a stronger connection with this project than the others. Somebody just tell me if I'm saying anything wrong but a steward shouldn't perform any steward action on projects where he has this kind of connection to avoid conflict of interests. He is a sysop on es.wikiquote, es.wiki, es.wikinews and es.wikibooks. Nevertheless he performs stewards actions in these projects (es.wikiquote, es.wikinews, es.wiki and with the previous name es.wiki, es.wikiquote, es.wikinews, es.wikibooks). In my opinion, he fails on this part of the steward policy, because if it says "avoid" you should "avoid".” T_ele^s (T_alk @ C G) 01:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm also a enwiki sysop, while I don't consider it anymore a homewiki (I quit editing there as I became steward). I have sysop on many wikis due to historial reasons but fact is that I'm inactive in pretty much all those wikis you mention. But I agree with you, I'm no perfect and certainly don't claim to be. I can provide explanations on why I did those changes I did, and certainly there's a remark about non controvertial actions on the guidelines...es:Magister Mathematicae 01:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I honestly think you are a good steward; that is why I hope you {{keep}}. I would never demand you to be perfect, since nobody is, but there is some actions that can be reviewed. For example, this is also a non controversial request, since there is a community decision, but the steward preferred to request other steward to do something that he could do. I'm not saying that you did anything wrong with that actions. I'm sure they were all done according to the rules, but conflict of interest is something that should be avoided when there is the minimum possibility we think on it. I admit the possibility that I'm wrong, since I am very less experienced than you. Sorry if I am, but that is my opinion. By the way, if you are inactive as a sysop on those projects, why do you still have the flag? Thanks again.” T_ele^s (T_alk @ C G) 01:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Because some projects don't desysop due to inactivy and.. who knows? some day it may be useful to have the bit in order to help on something they may need. es:Magister Mathematicae 02:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Es.wikipedia is between the projects I mentioned above. Are you inactive on es.wiki too? You have some flags there and your contributions and sysop logs are very recent with more than 2000 edits last month. Wouldn't it be better to ask another steward to perform steward's actions on this project? Regards.” T_ele^s (T_alk @ C G) 09:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm not, but I'd be glad to explain you any particular entry you may have doubts about, in my talk page (although there is only one instance over whole past year (2010) and this one I'll explain here: there was some task to be done on eswiki relating deletion of tousand of pages, which was flooding RC. We were looking for a solution and I was doing a quick check to see if the flood flag would help (therefore first changes on [1]), and then I compared it with the actual bot flag. Local bureaucrats cant' set flood flag, by the way. After seeing that flood flag wouldn't work but bot flag did, I immediately removed the rights. The 2 entries on [2] for 2010 correspond to the same issue (notice the same date and timing). The explantion is that I just had changed my username and I was used to the earlier one, so by inertia I wrote my earlier username and it was until I did it I realized I made a mistake. I also made a reference to this memory slips on the opening text for this page.

Now, I think the page you quote so much states: stewards should use their judgement to avoid conflict of interests, and in every case you point I've exercised my judgement not to be in conflict of interests (which is much more than being careful "not to look in COI") , I've never been involved in controversial steward actions on my home (or any other wiki for that matter) where it could be argued that using my steward tools was in conflict of interests.

In that regard, I've been much more careful than the "follow-the-letter-not-the-spirit" than you think. Stewards could use their tools in COI on any wiki if they're reckless and judgement is necessary to avoid it anywhere. The active wiki thing is a rule of thumb (very sensible) but bottom line is: judgement is more than automatic rule following.

I really thank you for assuming good faith on me anyd my judgement, and anytime you have questions about why I do something (steward or no steward related), feel free to drop me a message and I'll be willing to explain myself. I'm not the kind of users that denies or hides things, nor the kind of user that refuses to explain misunderstandings. es:Magister Mathematicae 15:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe in each word you wrote above. Thank you for answering paciently.” T_ele^s (T_alk @ C G) 20:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

• Keep --Ensada 01:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Lobo 03:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep--Nick1915 - ^{all you want} 09:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep--Jusjih 09:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep, active steward --Mercy 12:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Aleposta 21:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Jaontiveros 01:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep  fetchcomms☛ 02:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. Helpful, trustworthy, active. Jafeluv 09:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --birdy geimfyglið _(:> )=| 16:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Alex Pereira ^falaê 17:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep - Romaine 20:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. Good job. VonTasha 22:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. --Erwin 12:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Mjbmr ^Talk 15:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Vituzzu 23:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep MoiraMoira 22:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Jon Harald Søby 17:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
• Remove I´m not convinced that having you as a steward would be a good thing. The problem is that you seem to be uncooperative with other people.--Snaevar 22:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment, but if you don't provide me specific examples on what makes you think that, I can't improve. Thank you anyway. es:Magister Mathematicae 22:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

• Keep Would be willing to see more Drinis among stewards :) --Millosh 17:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep--Shizhao 13:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

* Remove Tener un cargo significa tener un poder lo que significa costes para los objetivos base de los proyectos. Si no tienes tiempo, es mejor relevarte o prescindir de otorgarte estos poderes. Por otra parte, la forma con la que poco usas esa experiencia no me satisface. Además, ¿por qué haces si no el gasto de cambiar tu nick por lo que dices? No me gusta, me parece tendencioso y parcial. Quizá también incluye mi ideología (Emporio's policy). --†Emporio2012 22:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

In English (guess literal translation): Remove Have a position means to have power that means costs for the base objectives of the projects. If you don't have time, is better to relive you or to go without confer you this powers. Moreover, the form with wich you little use that experience doesn't satisfy me. Also, why do you do if not the spending of change your nick by you say? I don't like, I think is tendentious and partial. Perhaps also includes my ideology (Emporio's policy). --†Emporio2012 01:13, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Reply: [3] es:Magister Mathematicae 02:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

::::Could you kindly explain me what's a sockpuppet in Wikimedia? Stewars only work for negative things with the users? Who can explain me the policies and help me? Why you reproduce this words? Why you do not response the message I gave you in your page? --†Emporio2012 03:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Keep Esteban 22:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
•  Oppose unable to trust a user whose makes edits like this, their only edit to a project is to make a big deal about nothing over someone they had a previous negative history with. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Kettle... es:Magister Mathematicae 02:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

When was I made a Steward, an individual who should be the most trusted of members of the WMF community? Where also did I post on projects in that way with no history at that project? Ottava Rima (talk) 03:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

You're right. My apologies for poor judgement. I understand you don't trust me, I appreciate you letting me know. es:Magister Mathematicae 08:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

A steward is one who is supposed to be above all petty politics, a reserved servant who is trusted to objectively act. It is a given up of a lot of freedom for some power as that is the only way to ensure that the power is used properly. One has to choose between the two and that is all that is really at issue. The more authority you have, the more intimidating your actions can become, and intimidation is the number one way to destroy open communication and collaboration. I hope you understand that. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

For the record, you have a profund misunderstanding about wiki roles. A steward position is not a power position, au contrarie, it has a lot of restrictions. You're conflating ability with power. I do have the ability to lock an account, but it's not a power I have nor it gives me more authority.

It's misunderstandings like yours that cause some users to become involved in power plays or games, furthering the misconception that a 'service position is an authority one.

The steward role is a pure service one, and more so the fact that the mantra is "stewards don't decide" (unlike other roles like bureaucrats or sysops where they have more flexibility in criterion application)

Finally, stewards don't stop being regular users, it's a fallacy to pretend that stewards only act a stewards and nothing else. That's why I leave quite clear on the opening that this is about my steward work (and not, for example the way I close a deletion on a particular wiki).

Howver, you don't trusting me is a perfectly valid reason for your comment (remembering we're not voting on this page, I avoid calling it "your vote"), I just want to point a misunderstaning and flaw in your reasoning. es:Magister Mathematicae 19:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Remove User fail to see the difference between a personal conflict and other processes. Misuse of importupload feature in global-steward bit (maybe to flame?) -- Màñü飆¹5 ^talk _es 03:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC). -- Màñü飆¹5 ^talk _es 07:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Béria Lima ^msg 17:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Zyephyrus 06:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Poco a poco 20:39, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Laura Fiorucci 03:51, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
• Keep - Hoo man (talk) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)