User talk:Quentinv57

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Archiving bot

Hey, Quentin. Would you be interested in running a bot on pt.wiki for archiving our block requests page? We still do it manually. We can do it in other requests pages too if it works fine.

We mark each answered request like this, so it can be archived (example of archive). In a discussion related, was raised the possibility to leave an answered request on page for a day and only after that it would be archived. Is it possible?

What do you think?—Teles «Talk to me ˱_{@ L C S}˲» 06:14, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Of course, it's possible and I would be really happy to help you. However, I'm really really busy at the moment and already have thousands of things to do for Wikimedia when I'll have some time IRL. So I can do it if you give me a delay, if it's urgent I'm sorry I can't do this right now... -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 08:05, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, Quentin! It is not really urgent. There is an ongoing discussion, but that I think it is not controversial that we could use a bot. I just brought that to know what is possible and what is not (especially the delay on archiving per request). Take your time and if you need any info, please, tell me. Regards.—Teles «Talk to me ˱_{@ L C S}˲» 22:16, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Looks like we have consensus to use a bot for this purpose. Please, tell me if you still want to help us and what would you need from me or community to do it. Thanks.—Teles «Talk to me ˱_{@ L C S}˲» 00:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Teles. For sure, I still want to help you but it's just a matter of time. The thing is that I should move my bots from the Toolserver to the WMF Labs but this is just going to take a while. However, if you really need it quickly, I still could do this right now, but I won't have enough time to monitor what the bot will do once launched, so can you please check it from time to time ? Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 07:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

It is not urgent. We can keep archiving manually. It is just boring. Would be nice if you could tell us when do you think you can run it approximately, so community will know how much time we will need to wait. Do you have an idea?—Teles «Talk to me ˱_{@ L C S}˲» 07:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I know that if I don't do it right now there will be a big delay (some months at least). Just tell me exactly what has to be archived (providing some diffs would make it easier for me) and I'll take some time to do it.

The main questions are :

• Which pages do you need to archive ? Where ?
• How does the bot know that a thread is done ? There must be some templates (or at least patterns) that are always in a thread that has to be archived and never in a thread that has not to be archived (for example : {{status|done}} for a steward request).
• How long should the request stay on the page ? (time after the last comment)
• How much requests should wait the bot to archive ? You may not want the bot to edit the pages if there is only one request to archive. By the way you can also set a maximum size, which will override this number of requests to archive (I had to do it for the steward's requests for global permissions, as some had a really big size and had to be archived solo).

Quentinv57 ^(talk) 08:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Quentin! I will try to answer your questions.
1. Pages to be archived: pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Bloqueio (archive of February, of March, yet to be created).
pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Proteção - Archive of February, of March, yet to be created.
It is all the same for pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Restauro, pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Desproteção, pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Guerras de edição, pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos/Páginas protegidas. Their archive title follow the same pattern: Wikipédia:Pedidos/<variable name>/Arquivo/<year>/<month>
2. We use a template on answered requests (diff or diff). Will the bot recognize both of them or should we use only one way?
3. Request should remain on page for 24 hours after last comment.
4. I'm not sure about this one... perhaps I should ask community. But, well, I think the bot can wait for ten requests before archiving? We have less than ten requests each day, which may vary. A single request is never too much big, so I don't think we should set a maximum. Those are not exactly talk pages; only requests and evidence that supports (or not) the block. So, sections tend not to be too large.

I hope I didn't miss anything. If there is anything left, please let me know. Btw, I think a bot flag wouldn't be required, right? Thanks a lot!—Teles «Talk to me ˱_{@ L C S}˲» 09:37, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Expire date

Hello, you removed some rights from Wikidata users, who's rights haven't expired yet. I think that we should wait until they actually expires (I mean the expire date). --Stryn (talk) 09:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Stryn. Are you sure ? It's written on their confirmation page Admin right to be removed.... -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 09:22, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but rights should be removed after three months, not any days before. That's ok for all. I think that we don't have any rules about it (at least I don't find, only this), but I think it's fair to wait until three months has gone. This has been done in the past also. --Stryn (talk) 09:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

OK thanks, I understand it. I did this based on the fact that these people don't have anymore the support of the community to hold adminship rights. Anyway, next time I will wait for the term of 3 months to expire. Do I need to give adminship back for the remaining three days ? Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 09:55, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, don't put rights back, because of this. Maybe everyone agree this, regards --Stryn (talk) 09:56, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Steward requests/Checkuser archiving query

Hi, 3 requests were archived: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steward_requests%2FCheckuser&diff=5242648&oldid=5240073, but the Collingwood request had an active question which was pending response. Could this please be un-archived? Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk 05:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. The request was archived because it was marked as "done" and there was no answers for more than a week. I don't think somebody would have answered, even if the request would have stayed some months more... Moreover, you are asking for private information, which I would personally not deliver as a steward. But maybe others see things differently, so I invite you to ask directly on the Steward's noticeboard, where you'll be more lucky to get an answer. Best regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 19:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice and help. I've asked here: Stewards' noticeboard#Collingwood@en.wikiversity -- Jtneill - Talk 20:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Let's see how this evolved in July. It depends on what each wikis damaged think, and not only on me unfortunately. Feel free to remember me if I forget about this. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 12:47, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Unattached accounts

Sorry for bother you, but I don't understand what means unattached accounts and why, after changing my name from Nini00 to DocElisa, en:WP and fr:WP are unattached. Thank you. Regards, DocElisa (talk) 15:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi DocElisa. You have a unified account among every WMF projects, which means that once you created an account on one WMF project, you have an account on every WMF wikis. So when you log in on a project, you are automatically logged in everywhere. If you need some more info on this, please visit this page.

In your situation, what I would advise to attach the accounts to your global account is to visit the special page Special:MergeAccount once logged in, and follow the steps of the assistant. If you need any more help, feel free to ask. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 09:43, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Searching for a username I got SQL error

http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo Searching for a username I got SQL error Warning : The SQL server s2 is down or having issues. Consequently, the following wikis won't be displayed : thwiki, plwiki, eowiki, nlwiki, enwikiquote, idwiki, zhwiki, ptwiki, trwiki, fiwiki, bgwiktionary, svwiki, cswiki, bgwiki, nowiki, enwiktionary and itwiki.

Hi. This comes from the Toolserver database itself, and I'm not able to fix it myself. Generally it takes a short delay to be repaired, it should be working in some hours if you try too. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 09:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. It's working today. Regards, -- Slevers (talk) 18:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Yet Another Edit Counter

Dear Quentinv57,

I want to ask you, would you like to fix the program that you created in "toolserver.org", please.
The program name is “Yet Another Edit Counter” and the problem is located on the giving "namespace" as follows :

• The namespace "Unknown namespace 100" should be named "Portal".
• The namespace "Unknown namespace 101" should be named "Portal talk".
• The namespace "Unknown namespace 828" should be named "Module".
• The namespace "Unknown namespace 829" should be named "Module talk".

Thank-You Very Much for Your Kind Attention, Your Help and Your Concern.

May GOD Bless You Always!

Best Regards,
Erwin Mulialim^(talk) 13:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

Hi. I'm not the owner of this tool, so I cannot fix this. I would advise you to contact User:VasilievVV to report this problem, or to use an other edit counter. You could use this tool I wrote (there might be some problems because it's still a test version). Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

• Thank-You Very Much for Your Kind Attention, Your Help and Your Concern.

May GOD Bless You Always! ~~ Erwin Mulialim^(talk) 19:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC).

Sysop abuse

Hi, could you please take a look at to this request?Thanks.--Gomada (talk) 11:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gomada. I have read this, but I don't have enough time to check this out. From what I've understand there is an internal war at your wiki, but it is impossible for me to understand what happened exactly because I don't speak your language. Maybe it would be worth opening a new RfC to sum up all the abuses. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 12:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention. I can show you some examples of abuse; User:Mirzali insulted me and admin Xosere.(here, in turkish language) Mirzali tried to block new user without any reason. Mirzali calls user, racist and ignorant. He attacked admin and calls him idiot, traitor, despot, grandchild of Yezit, he insulted another user as well. He tells users to leave the project. He blocked me today. That is the situation. And some old example from Mirzali; (here) The problem is that, we have 4 users (+Mirzali) who speak Zazaki and we dont want to lose them. Users; Neribij, Azadi, Xosere and i can speak Zazaki, in other side. Mirzali is againist of all those users. We just dont want Mirzali to attack users and force them to leave the project. Its several years, Mirzali controls the wiki as he wanted. Im afraid; If it will be same, none of users will stay there. And i dont want to spend my time with non-sense discussions anymore, coz we already disccused in Zazaki wiki.Gomada (talk) 12:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I've left him a message. Please see at SRP. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest. I dont want to talk about politics and waste our time. i just want to contribute on diqwiki and help to develop but it seems impossible. Instead of the pressure/command on me and other users, i would prefer to not contribute there.Gomada (talk) 09:09, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Quentinv57, we are waiting for your solution. Mirzali's last message, here. About insulting, he says its a truth. I think nobody has right to insult users as above or? That means, there is no border for him, he thinks, he is free for all his abuse. And what does I am an honorable man and I don't need tricks like you mean? Will we be insulted all the time and nobody wil stop this abuse? I dont want waste my time with him, coz he doesnt know what he is saying. Therefore, i wait for your solution. Regards.Gomada (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Quentinv57, i write you once again because our problem is still in progress. I dont know if Mirzali's adminship is more important than future of Zazaki wiki. But, since his last blocking; user Neribij, user Ghybu,user Azadi, user Seyidxan, user Gomada, user George Animal, and admin Xosere dont contribute anymore. Now Mirzali and his co-turkish speaking user contribute on diqwiki. Is it really normal that an admin is abusing his adminship and nobody does anything? If stewards will not solve this problem, then you should let those users to contribute in another project for their language. There are diqwiki and kiu incubator (another wiki of Zazaki), both are under control of Mirzali. (btw zza.wiki project is rejected, coz its nothing new, user is copying article from diqwiki and pasting to zza.wiki and Mirzali wants to start it again some example of copy-paste) Is this fair? One person contols 2 projects and other can not contribute for their language. I hope, you solve the problem soon. Its a pity if we lose those users.Regards.--Gomada (talk) 15:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Gomada,

I'm not comfortable with removing the status of Mirzali. He certainly had a bad behaviour and should not have insulted you. But this is not enough to remove his sysop status without a community consensus. If he insults or threaten you, feel free to request an other admin to warn or even block him. But I think that it won't be necessary : you should both make efforts to cooperate. I know that it's not easy at all, but that's the only way to put an end to this problematic situation.

As far as I understood, there are two groups at diqwiki, and each have at least one active sysop. It is something cool because it regulates the wiki. Mirzali does not own or control the wiki at all because Xosere (which is on your side, from what I understood) can control what he does and revert him if any abuse is done. I hope you understand my point of view. Stewards have to implement consensus and are not a global arbitration commitee. Best regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 23:34, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I understand your sensibility. But we cant keep fight forever. I cant waste my energy for something like that. Sorry but i dont want to contribute under command. He has blocked me twice without valid reason. We cant wait for Xosere to revert his all edits. Then wiki turn into a battleground. I know the situation of diq.wiki for a long time. For years, none of new user could keep to contribute there.(please check it now, why there are only Mirzali and his turkish-speaking friend?) There are new users again and it seems, they have been already alienated from diq wiki. There are users who want to develop diqwiki and on other side there are Mirzali and Asmen (Asmen is coming when Mirzali needs help). We cant keep diqwiki as a family project. We need change for sure. (Btw, diqwiki means, it should be written in Dimili version of Zazaki. Mirzali and Asmen are native speaker of Kirmanjki not Dimili. As i told you, there is also kiu.wiki (kirmanjki). New users are native speaker of Dimili.) We should give a chance to Zazaki this time. Nobody tells Mirzali to leave the project. (Even if he tells me and other users to leave the project, but im aganist chasing away coz wiki projects are free, everybody can contribute) But, when he is an admin, diqwiki doesnt develop. You can appoint a steward to check diqwiki for a month. We will write on users page that they can contribute freely(if they are still on diqwiki) and only 1 month, if nothing change then you can say, all those users lie and Mirzali is right. Zaza users need a chance. I think, they deserve it. Mirzali and Asmen have nothing to lose. Coz one of them will be admin for sure. This is not a personal problem, i want to see that people contribute freely in diqwiki. Thanks.Gomada (talk) 01:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Can you please share your idea here. Should we just forget that, Mirzali insulted and blocked us? i also started discussion here. Regards.Gomada (talk) 10:50, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. What Ruslik tried to tell you is that we are not competent to solve local conflicts. We are no global arbitration commitee. I never said that Mirzali's behaviour was perfect, but this issue can be handled locally. There is a community and local sysops who can discuss this matter and decide to warn him, to punish him or whatever else. As Ruslik does, I feel that this wiki can self-regulate itself, and that there is therefore no need to intervene. If we remove Mirzali's sysop status, then we remove every sysop on this wiki. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 10:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but Mirzali doesnt care our warning. He still says, its not unsult, its a truth. No apologize. At same time, Ruslik says, there is no consencus. How it will work then? Because, when we leave like that. Who will contribute there? Some steward could at least could say him, dont insult and block users please and let users to contriuteGomada (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I will do this, but I want you to promise that you will also do efforts to avoid him as much as possible (and when possible) and to be always tolerant and respectful. I know you do not like him and that it will not be easy, but it's the only way to cooperate. In other words, don't insult or even provoke him. Can I trust you on this ? -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 12:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Come on, you have talked as i insulted him.(He insulted 3 users) Anyway, i dont need to insult him and i will not. I dont even need to communicate him, if he doesnt block/disturb me or other users. This is not only for me, he should not insult any users or not block them without consensus. He should let users to contribute freely. Btw, if he keeps to abuse, i will report all. Thank you for your understand.Regards.Gomada (talk) 19:31, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, i hope you didnt forget. Regards.--Gomada (talk) 10:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I just left him a message here. Sorry for the delay. Please tell me if there are some changes, good or bad. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 14:48, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Quentinv57. Thank you for your message to Mirzali. But he doesnt care, coz he has blocked user Neribij today without warning or disscusion. Wikipedia is not a game-zone to block users when they want or? (PS:Mirzali has blocked Neribij that, user Neribij can not even ask Mirzali, why he blocked. In short, Mirzali blocked Neribij's all edit rights. So, Neribij doesnt even has right to defend him/herself?)--Gomada (talk) 15:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Bureaucrat discussion

Hello. A bureaucrat discussion has been opened to decide the outcome of this request for de-adminship. It is opened for more than three days now and it has only received one comment so far. If you could please pass by and leave your comments over there it would be really appreciated. Best regards.

— Delivered via Global message delivery on behalf of MarcoAurelio, 15:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

My views and List of my efforts on mr-wikipedia

Dear stewards User:Shizhao, User:Quentinv57 and other stewards,

1) Since SRCU is still open I am planning to present my view on issues in Marathi Wikipedia to steward User:Quentinv57,if he is willing and interested to receive my details.If you also want to know about them please let me know.This statement I am plannng to present on User talk:Quentinv57 talk page since he had querried about background issues.On personal talk page because otherwise entire SRCU page will get filled up with my long statements and lists.The link can be given on SRCU page.

2) I am planning to present entire list of my efforts against vandalism on mr-wikipedia on your (User:Shizhao)'s talk page ,if you are interested and if you permit.On personal talk page because otherwise entire SRCU page will get filled up with my long statements and lists.The link can be given on SRCU page.

Please do guide me , I will present the facts and views to best of my knowledge.

Regards

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 08:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Of course I'm interrested. It will be easier for me to know the different point of views on what's happening at mrwiki. If there's anything more or less private, you can also send me an email. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 07:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Error in SRCU archival

Dear Steward and user Quentinv57 primarily there is some error while archiving on SRCU.SRCU is partially archived and partially still there.The request is to either keep entire SRCU or archive entire.Right now it is half way in between.

Secondly,at the SRCU to breach my privacy and again defend it wrongfully User polkhol has even used circular refence to data mirroring by a blog.After community awareness on mr-wiki we can remove private data on our own but on Meta we are helpless .Please do guide .

Warm regards

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 12:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Mahitgar,

I just restored and reopened the request. I know Shizhao did not answer the raised concerns, so I will do it as soon as I'll have some time to read and understand everything. As for the private informations that you mention, just contact a steward privately (IRC, mail or OTRS) to ask him to remove the private data you are concerned about (please read the oversight policy if you want to know what can be suppressed or not). Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 07:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your valuable guidance.Actually I am not necessarilly looking for complete oversight but a simple deletion so that private info does not come in direct search results.I am a Gandhian by principle as many times people make mistake that many times I educate them, I belive in educating and awareness and i want to send signal to community about what is right and what is wrong. For stewards ref I have given fresh statement at SRCU I hope that will make my request more clear.

Regards

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 14:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Mahitgar, the private info have been removed and the request reviewed. If you need any clarification, please let me know. I also heard while reading each statements that there are regular abuses on mrwiki. So feel free to ask our help if an investigation is needed. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 22:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Point is noted . Will discuss and keep you informed on this.When studied archival page found some error still exists on archival page.Pl. look into the same as time perimts.

Rgds

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 05:24, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Fundraising translation feedback

Hey Quentinv57,

I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.

To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback in french using This Link

Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Many Thanks

Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 07:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I just read it and gave my opinion. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 17:54, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Requesting help from fr-wikipedia edit filter experts.

Dear user:Quentinv57,

We are looking for help in resolving one of edit filter issue (if resolved will be helpfull to Marathi and many other unicode using wikis) regarding Word boundry parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words . To my knowledge French language wikipedia faced simmiller problem in the past.A bug 946773 ) is filed on bugzilla.If you see the bug probablly you also may compare with fr-wiki's implemented solution and guide us or Help from fr-wikipedia edit filter experts would be a welcome.

Rgds

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 05:32, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I've just tried to fix this and left a note on the bugzilla page. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 11:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Synchbot#Kolega2357

Please create a global script, waiting long time. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 23:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

When will it be done, but a long wait. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Kolega, I'm extremely busy at this moment in real life. Though I still can spend some time for regular tasks, I don't have the time to run a bot and to check that everything worked fine. Unless it's really urgent, I will wait a little bit before running SynchBot again. Sorry for that. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:44, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Now, can you do this? I need a global Twinkle faster to get it. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 07:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Renaming username

I hereby request renaming my old username "XJamRastafire" to new name "XJaM" on meta.wikimedia.org and sl.wikipedia.org. Thank you in advance and best regards. --XJaM (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

renaming

Hi Quentinv

could you look here.--Regards--85.176.136.252 16:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I've just answered you and need a confirmation link before renaming. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

About hidden username

Those LTA:ISECHIKA's inappropriate accounts include living people, private name, suspect and victim's name, or other inappropriate personal information.--Lanwi1 (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Is simply hiding from public lists okay, or do you think this should be removed completely ? If this does not involve private info about members of the community, there should be no problem if privileged users can see it. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 11:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, privileged users only can see it.--Lanwi1 (talk) 13:27, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

SUL Info

Add new wiki please: ukwikivoyage, hewikivoyage --RLuts (talk) 09:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure. This will be done as soon as they will be added to the Toolserver. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 08:09, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

SUL Upgrade

Hey, I was wandering, if it is possible to add a new row with the total amount KB added by user per project? Since the edits can be counted, maybe it won't be hard to calculate the KB added and substracted by user, what do you think?.3BRBS (talk) 15:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, but it won't be possible, at least part of this tool. Now my tool checks the number of edits on every projects. What you're asking for requires to check every edition and to compare it to the previous version to calculate the added size. This would take a lot of time and resources to handle, for a limited interest. Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 17:52, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Oki, I though it was very interesting, since one can make few edits with a lot of KB's, or hundreds very light, anyways, I see it can be complicated, thanks for the prompt reply!--3BRBS (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Policy of diq-Wikipedia?

Dear Quentinv57! It was not me, but Xosere with this alleged policy reason as follows. According to the policy of this Wikipedia, we only write in Zazaki. For communications in English (or any other questions other than in Zazaki), please write on our Embassy page. I just pointed out as his friend asked me for a reason. It is his work and there's no voting about it. My real warning to the blocked person (Neribij) was "Please, stop Kurdish ethnocentric deformation!". A day earlier, the user Takabeg was blocked by Xosere, because Takabeg accused justifiably him and his Kurdish oriented friend Neribij pushing of Kurdish ethnocentric POVs. This message was also deleted by Xosere and he opened himself an embassy side with the above mentioned reason. Greetings! -- Mirzali (mesac)

• Hi, Quentinv57. diq:Karber:Mirzali's comments above are right. Mirzali blocked Neribij because of his/her Kurdish ethnocentric deformations. User:Neribij abused and is abusing SOAPBOX, NPOV. Even in Turkish Wikipedia, Neribij abused and continues abusing SOAPBOX, NPOV and his/her ethnocentric behaviors were reported here and we are discussing on interproject Kurdish ethocentric actions of Neribij and Gomada. I'm neither Zazaki native speaker, nor Turkish native speaker. But I've learned Turkish language and most of all users at Zazaki Wikipedia know Turkish language. And I'm learning Zazaki language now. But I cannot make sentence in Zazaki language at the moment. So I communicated in Turkish language with other users on Zazaki Wikipedia.

• Yesterday Neribij, Gomada, Xosere deformed the article diq:Kurdistan (rojname) with their Kurdish ethnocentric POVs, contradictory to provided sources. Xosere wanted to introduce to prohibition of communication with other language and realized it, off course there is not such policy. And then Xosere removed my explanation from talk page of diq:Kurdistan (rojname) and transfer to embassy. Xosere wants to make me hold my tongue.

• Xosere blocked my account with claim of my harming the article diq:Kurdistan (rojname) without warning. However, the real users who harm that article with Kurdish ethnocentric POVs are Neribij, Gomada, Xosere and I only tried to neutralized article according to provided sources. As you know Xosere don't have any rights to block my account because of en:WP:INVOLVED. Unfortunately Xosere doesn't know policies and doesn't try to learn policies. Moreover he abuses en:Wikipedia:Neutral point of views and doesn't stop his Kurdish ethnocentric biased edits. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 07:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

What a pity! You both (Mirzali and Takabeg) turned Wikipedia to a game-zone. Sorry, Quentinv57 for distrubing. I really dont want to waste time anymore with Takabeg. He is not Zaza, but he wants to criminalize Zaza users. What is Kurdish ethnocentrism? Zazas live as they are, stop to blame them. If you will have comment about Mirzali's abuse, you can comment here. No more discussions on Quentinv57's page. (PS: Takabeg, plz dont try to decieve people anymore. If Quentinv57 could understand Zazaki, he could see it easier what you do. For example; in article of Kurdistan (rojname) Xosere and i reverted your edit (but you kept to revert without discussion), coz there is already information in article but for your propoganda, you repeat same info, so you just have duplications in articles. You dont care the quality. See 1, 2, If you could speak Zazaki, you would stop to copy-paste. Dont forget please, Wikimedia projects are no materials for your propaganda, if you want something political, you can have your own website or blog.)--Gomada (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I've already understand that there is a war on your local wiki between two groups, but I'm not the one who's going to solve it. Simply because I'm not member of an arbitration commitee and I don't understand your language so I cannot see who's right and who's wrong. But, for goodness sake, please solve your problems by discussing. You clearly don't need to use sysop tools to block others. The only way to stop this would be to start a productive and cooperative discussion. I hope you are wise enough to do this. If you need some help to do this, feel free to ask. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Quentinv57. Its good to be hopeful but today the wiseman (user:Mirzali) insulted me in turkish again. (If its not problem to tell, i would really like to know Mirzali's age. Adult people solve problems by insulting?) His wise turkish speaking friend/advocate can translate Mirzali's swearwords for you. Lets be hopeful one more time that, Takabeg can once tell Mirzali stop to insult users. As i said, i keep to report his abuse here.Regards.--Gomada (talk) 21:37, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. It's a good idea to continue to report everything going wrong to the RfC to keep a trace of what's going on. If Mirzali insults people, it's still a local affair that has to be solved locally. While speaking a language is not a good reason for blocking, repeated insults after warnings is clearly one. About Mirzali's age, it is a private information so it cannot be revealed without his consent. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 22:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

SRP Archives

Hi Quentin, could you change your bot so that it also recognizes the template {{removed}} on SRAT? Currently it seems to ignore it, because it doesn't touch the requests which are marked with it. --MF-W 13:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I think it'd be simpler if folks respected the long stablished syntax stated in the header of the page (cf. SN#SRAT). The {{removed}} template was designed for spam blacklist issues. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, even better. To my defense I never used the template :D --MF-W 14:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

SUL

Hi - I use and like the http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/SatuSuro SUL info - it is very helpful to keep tabs of things, but I am curious about my wikidata status - the edits dont show up. Not sure what the issue is. cheers sats (talk) 15:42, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

True, it's not as if you had 3 edits on Wikidate :D. I just checked, and it comes from the Toolserver database, which is not currently up to date. I'm sorry but I can't hardly do something here, this should be reported to a Toolserver admin. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 18:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

no problems - thanks for the reply - just thought id check - so pleased with the sul - never had this before - thanks sats (talk) 01:01, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there

I assume you wrote to me due to a complaint from Rodrigo. Let me explain something. We have only two admins, and the other one is basically never around. "Regras para imagens" has been unprotected for a long time now and was never protected for more than a day. The problem is actually Rodrigo, who is not interested in following the manual of style or many other existing policies. These are not typical "edit wars" of opinion, but rather the issues are things which are already settled by our manual of style or other policies, and occur because he insists that the rules are illegitimate, non-existent, or that he should be allowed to break them without having his contributions corrected (at which point he begins reverting them to his non-conforming version). This user has been blocked numerous times on wikipedia and had complaints filed about him on meta for various issues, particularly rudeness, and on WV he has made a lot of ruckus trying to throw out pretty much every guideline we have, including nominating various policy pages for deletion (including our image policies, first-person pronouns policy, HTML policy, and even our nomination-for-deletion system itself), and fought hard against a lot of other rules that keep our site presentable and consistent. In every case I have tried to discuss with him, pointing out our process of discussion and consensus when guidelines need to be changed, but he has refused to go about things that way, preferring instead to attack me personally (and other contributors), ad hominem rants with swear words, making many and repeated false accusations (such as accusing me of sock puppetry), and in general trying to defame me as an admin so he can get his way. Incidentally, he has been rude with a number of users on en:wv as well. This user is essentially behaving like a troll, and I am doing my best to control the damage. I have been an admin over this project for about 7 years now, on both en: and pt:, and have never been accused of abusing my tools. I am a highly respected contrubutor on both sites, and have never had major problems with anybody until this Rodrigo came along. As I see it, due to the very low traffic on the site at the moment, I am basically alone in keeping things in order there, and to not revert this guy's changes would amount to indefinitely keeping undiscussed policy changes and non-MoS-compliant editions. I'm doing my best here. If you know of another way to single-handedly deal with a persistently rude editor who does not wish to follow our guidelines or respect our collaborative processes, please let me know, preferably on my en:wv talk page. Texugo (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your point of view, Texugo. I will answer on your ptwikivoyage page because the issue has nothing to do with enwikivoyage.

It's hard to understand who's right and who's wrong here. It's never easy to be the only sysop on a project, because you sometimes have to do what you should not do as a good sysop... Can you just prove me that the rule you're adding here has been properly accepted by the community ? If true, the page can be left protected. If not, the protection has to be removed and the last revision restored. Thanks. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 13:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

As I stated, the page has not been protected for a long time. Here is the story:

From the beginning in 2005 or 2006, pt: has always adopted the same image policy as en:. At that time, the image policy was translated from en:. Neither site had an explicit policy against montages, but in practice montages were never allowed on either en: or pt: - they have been consistently disallowed from the beginning. In 2009, en: finally put this into writing on their image policy page (no discussion was had there either, since it was well-established practice). On pt: however, the practice has always continued of not allowing montages, but this was never formally put into writing as it was on en:. This is evidenced by the fact that none of our pages contain montages. When I added that line to the image policy page, I was not creating any new practice, only explaining the existing practice. Allowing montages now by default, for the first time in the history of the project, would represent a real change in direction for the content of the site. Rodrigo would like to use such technicalities to introduce montages (and other things we have never allowed), but in reality the change would involve the sitewide introduction of something that has never been allowed, so it should be discussed and consensus reached before we introduce it.

The site as we inherited it from WT is our starting point, and if we are going to change the way we do things, we need to have good reasons and good consensus for changing them. Rodrigo does not accept this and would like to argue that we should simply throw out any and all guidelines and practices which have not gained a new consensus. However, we do not have a robust enough community to discuss anything thoroughly at the moment, and throwing out all our policies by default would simply result in anarchy, and would completely destroy all the consistency of our current content. Texugo (talk) 13:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I see your point. But Rodrigo's opinion has also to be taken into consideration, and is not stupid. You just disagree and need to find an agreement, that's all. What I can advise you is to officially propose to the community to discuss and vote to adopt the following rule :

All rules from the main project en.wikivoyage will be adopted by default, and would not require a specific vote here.

If the community wants a rule set on en.wikivoyage not to be applied at pt.wikivoyage, they will have to start a vote, and if less than 50% agree with the rule, it will not be adopted. If the rule is new (adopted on en.wikivoyage less than 2 months ago), it won't be applied to en.wikivoyage before the end of the debate.

This statement is to be removed as soon as the community of ptwikivoyage is big enough and show a consensus to remove it.''

Just talk with other people and explain your point of view. I talked with Rodrigo, he's not stupid, he should understand it and cooperate. Please keep me posted ;-) -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 10:34, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Listen, I think your response would be completely reasonable if we had enough of a community to discuss such things, but basically we only have me and Rodrigo, plus two guys who generally barely get involved much in these conversations. I can already tell you that Rodrigo responds to any idea from en: with total disdain and that proposal will not get anywhere. Even it if passed, with only two people interested in discussing things, it would give license for Rodrigo to throw out any rule he wished. I wish we had more people to discuss things calmly and rationally. I don't think he is stupid, but he has a total lack of respect for my opinions and has called me stupid and worse plenty of times - He has already shown that he is not capable of a calm rational discourse without insulting people, making false accusations, cursing, and trying every nasty trick in the book to get his way. If you could read all the many discussions Rodrigo and I have already had, you could easily understand that encouraging him amounts to feeding the troll. While his line of argument continues to be that all 90+ policy pages are somehow obviously illegitimate and idiotic and should all be eliminated until further notice, we are not going to reach any kind of agreement.

Without a community large enough to have balanced discussions or reach a consensus on anything, we really shouldn't be trying to enact sitewide changes, not by 2-person consensus, and certainly not by the technicalities of omission. Wikivoyage has always had a strong status quo bias where introducing new changes that affect large numbers of pages requires consensus. Rodrigo needs to accept that his desired changes (montages, use of first person pronouns, changing formatting of listings, use of html, change in deletion process, etc.) are big changes that affect all our content, and thus need to be discussed and agreed upon beforehand, and that this low-traffic, low-participation time is probably not the best time for high expectations in that regard. Moreover, what he needs to learn is how to discuss such issues based on logic and reasoning, not on character attacks, insults, indignation, and generally disparaging the opinions of others. Texugo (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Incidentally, the current status quo is that content on pt: is currently compliant with en: policies, since that is how it has always been done, albeit without the written clause you proposed. Texugo (talk) 11:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Also, I don't much like that fact that Rodrigo is talking to you in private at an undisclosed location while I am talking to you here out in the open. I would like to see exactly what accusations are being made so I can perhaps send you (and Google translate) to specific discussions for further reading of how Rodrigo has behaved on these topics. Texugo (discussão) 11h52min de 30 de abril de 2013 (UTC)

See also Requests for comment/WY-pt rules infringements, abuse by the sysop. Texugo (talk) 13:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikivoyage

Hello Quentinv. I'm the other sysop in pt.wikivoyage and i've been i bit busy studying. I want to help with the situation there. The problem is that both users are stubborn in their opinions. If I can do something leave me a message as pt.wikipedia or pt.wikivoyage. Thank you. Gusta (talk) 01:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Gustavo, the difference is that I am stubborn in following the guidelines and practices and the processes for changing them, and Rodrigo is stubborn in refusing to follow or even acknowledge them, trying to subvert them, and trying to change them through any means other than rational discourse and consensus, all while being exceedingly rude about it. Do you really not see this difference? Texugo (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You guys can't reach consensus, that's why stubborn. I did not meant to offend anyone. Gusta (talk) 15:43, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

No offense taken. For what it's worth, en: has been unable to reach consensus for change on the same issues, despite having far more contributors. On pt: where we have only 2 and occasionally up to 4 people discussing, it is not really surprising that we haven't come to an agreement on those topics. Moreover, one of the problems with Rodrigo is that he aggressively tries to enact changes which have not reached consensus, by trying to deny, delete, or delegitimize policies and practices he does not like rather than discuss rationally to build a consensus for changes. . Texugo (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gusta. I'm really happy to see you comming back. If you could solve this problem by being a neutral arbitrator, it would be really nice. I'm sure you will be far more suitable than me for this role, because you know the language and the project. I would like to know if Texugo and Rodrigo agree with the proposed solution. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 19:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate Gusta's involvement, but I would really appreciate it if you would continue to participate in the analysis of these problems as well, as they are far more complex than a simple "let´s compromise", and you have a great deal more experience at these kinds of things than Gusta does, and as a temporary sysop with low involvement in the project, it is hard to say how familiar Gusta may be with the project and its policy implementations. Plus, I do not even know what a neutral position would be between a sysop who is just following the policies and a rude guy who actively and aggressively opposes the existence of policies. Texugo (talk) 19:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Texugo, I know the project. I would like Quentiv as well but if he is too busy I can naturally do it. No offense taken by being only a temporary sysop. Gusta (talk) 20:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Of course I can still help here if needed, but I just don't have enough time right now to completely understand who is wrong/true. Anyway I think that nobody is wrong : you just simply have different opinions and have to agree on something. For example, I think that creating own rules is not more stupid than importing the rules from an older project. By the way, the word "rude" isn't really needed here if you want to cooperate... -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:40, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so i'm going to do it, and then if I need help i talk with you, ok? Gusta (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Just try to stay as neutral as possible. If you could bring new contributors to the project, it may also help. A biggest community would maybe solve this, as we just need more input to give reason either to Rodrigo or to Texugo. Feel free to come if you need any help -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 07:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I would like you to know that I was using the word "rude" in the strictly objective sense- someone like Rodrigo, who will tell you to "f. off" in an edit summary and who regularly uses curse words in discussion is actually rude, and there is no other word to describe it. I would like you to consider the possibility that you are giving him too much credit. He contacted you and pretended to be an honest nice-guy victim, but he is actually trying to use you to get what he wants. In his dealings with the community, he is actually extremely aggressive, viciously combative, does not assume good faith, and yes, he is rude. Offensively so.

As to "nobody is wrong", well I agree with you to an extent - creating our own rules would not be more stupid than importing the rules from an older project, and I am completely willing to discuss any proposed new rules or changes to existing ones. What I am not willing to do is instantaneously throw out our existing practices and 90+ policy pages and let the site denigrate into a free-for-all until some distant future where we have a community robust enough to discuss and reimplement policies one by one, and Rodrigo is the only one essentially clamoring for us to do that. While it may not be objectively "wrong" to hold that opinion, it certainly does not put him in the position of being a useful contributor who respects the site as it currently exists. There may be technically no "right" or "wrong" opinion, but there is certainly such a thing as right or wrong behavior, and Rodrigo's actions fall squarely in the "wrong" category. He brings an amazing amount of negativity to the site, does everything he can to subvert our foundations, curses, attacks everyone who disagrees with him, tries to frame people, makes blatantly false accusations, and generally behaves as if he has the right to do anything he wants. As I have stated elsewhere, practically every edit he has made since January has been hostile protest or intentional violation of one guideline or another. I am not really sure what even keeps him coming back; he seems to vehemently hate almost everything about the site. I and others have tried many many times to have reasonable conversations with him, but it always comes back to his complaints, insults, and angry demands for a site with no rules where he can do what he wants. It is very difficult to deal with this guy.

If you have not read my responses to his accusation page and the remainder of the conversation you started on my WV talk page, please read them if you get a chance. Thanks for your help! Texugo (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Texugo (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I do have already read your answers. By the way, it's not because he insults you that you have to do the same. If he's insulting or attacking you in any way, feel free to come and see me (or Gusta). He may have a different point of view from yours, no problem with that at all, but has no right to attack you. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 07:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Please note that I have never insulted him in any way. Rodrigo claims that any time he is being called out on his bad behavior and asked to stop, that he is the victim of insults and personal attacks, always trying to dramatically revert the blame and play the victim. It's not only me, either. Typical exchanges amount to this:

Other user: Rodrigo, it is rude and unacceptable to curse here.

Rodrigo: I'm insulted! How dare you call me rude! You've attacked me!

Other user: Rodrigo, stop saying X about me. It is not true.

Rodrigo: Oh my god, I've been called a liar! Stop insulting me!

Other user: Rodrigo, your behaviors X, Y, and Z exactly fit the wikipedia definition of a troll and are therefore unacceptable. Please do not continue this behavior.

Rodrigo: You, you've attacked me! You called me a troll! Why do you always attack me?

In no case has he ever stopped to apologize for his behavior, or to consider or change it, and usually he tries to, as soon as possible, find a situation in which he can try to use the exact same language of criticism to make false claims against his "opponent", sometimes even verbatim.

I'm sure that at least users Ibaman and Teles could back me up on this. That I am aware of, there is not any user who does get along with Rodrigo. All of us including Gusta have been the object of his attacks.

I would encourage you to be less sympathetic to Rodrigo's claims of being a victim. Texugo (talk) 11:11, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I never said that Rodrigo was a victim, just that he may not be totally wrong. As I already said, if he attacks you or somebody else, just come and see me with a link to the insulting message if nobody wants to handle this locally. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 11:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Will do. But I would like you to consider the possibility that he may indeed be wrong. We are not a huge wiki, but we do have over 3000 articles and a lot of what we do have is well-developed, consistent, and rigorously curated, and everybody else is following our policies. For Rodrigo to simply call it all a "pile of crap" and go about insisting on non-compliant edits and reverting others' corrections as if the entire organization of the wiki up to this point is completely illegitimate and does not apply to him - that is not acceptable behavior on any wiki. He is certainly free to believe that a wiki with no rules or organization would be better, but on any wiki which is already established to this degree, it is clearly wrong to stay around acting as if no rules apply to him. I cannot think of any other wiki where blatant disregard and repeated refusal to comply with well-established policies and style manual would not be considered "wrong". Texugo (talk) 12:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Steward_requests/Bot_status#Kolega2357-Bot.40avwikipedia and Steward_requests/Bot_status#Kolega2357-Bot.40smwikipedia

Can you give me a flag of the two Wikipedia does not have active user communities. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 16:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I commented the request, and am not comfortable to grant this kind of access anymore. Sorry, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 18:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Help

Hello. i'm going to translate a part of what Rodrigo said: "And what about the person that hides his name with the institution (Rodrigo mentions Ibaman, Ibama is the name of the institution) that works. Suit me then :)"

• I guess that is a legal threat. I already warned him. Gusta (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• And he just called me mongol. Gusta (talk) 16:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

  Thanks for the information. I took the necessary measures. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 16:52, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

About block

Do not think it was abuse, but I think you erred in using the tool. Because administrative tools should not be used as punishment, but a way to protect the community, which was not the case, which would not be repeated, because I was already living.

Another thing, it became clear that several rules were imposed, without any discussion, and somehow you instead of solving the problem may have encouraged this kind of action, because now it's as if you had said, it's okay to do what they do, but this is wrong counter attack that...

The Wikivoyage-pt became less salutary to editing all Wikimedia Movement, and there is nothing being done to fix this, thank you for encouraging this. Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 04:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, Rodrigo. Please note that I didn't encourage one or another point of view (and you can read the long discussion just above, when I repeated it a lot). What I couldn't do is letting you insult other contributors freely, without saying anything. I can tell it one more time : you are free to contribute to this project and to give your opinion, but you have to respect other users. If you do not, I can't do much for you. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 08:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Suite me, is not a legal thread, this was stupidity... he acted like an idiot, and I have no patience for this kind of thing, and if you knew Portuguese, you would know that this word has the same weight of silly. And that's what I told you via IRC, stewards should ask the community before acting, and Texugo could have done something, he is active.

And no, I can not freely contribute to the project, all my edits undergo revision, and if unauthorized, are summarily removed without discussion, and if I start a discussion, I am attacked, and when I asked you to do something, you have reinforced my non-participation.

I'm exhausted, I've done this community come to the fore to become what it became, this is a crap... Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 18:03, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I ask permission to elaborate on this discussion. I present myself Ibaman, an active user of the community, also a Brazilian federal civil servant, assigned to law enforcement duties. I testify in good faith that user R T A has never behaved in an acceptable way as a member, and has even committed in print several offences of the Brazilian Penal Code, willingly and repeatedly. I stand ready for any further questioning anyone may have concerning this matter. Regards, Ibaman (talk) 23:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC) 00:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

And this is a legal thread, as he did in wy-pt 3 or 4 times... and for that I said "suit me". And this is the environment that we edits... Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 04:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear Ibaman, thanks for sharing your point of view. Of course you're free to participate, but I would prefer if you could be logged in for the next answers, to show that the messages really come from you.

Rodrigo, I still don't see a legal threat in this... and even if it was one, I assume that somebody has still the right to say that he wants to sue somebody else. At least in my country, this kind of things is neither forbidden nor perceived as a personal attack... On the contrary, calling people "mongols" and "idiots" clearly is. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 04:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I comply and stand by my words. Ibaman (talk) 07:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• Rodrigo is showing bad faith in erasing all the messages sent for him by me, in one summary he says: taking bullshit (bobeiras in portuguese) away. Rodrigo is not trying to discuss, as i see he is just offending everyone. Gusta (talk) 17:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
• pt:Wikivoyage has just sustained a severe vandalism attack; the pages attacked, and patterns of attack, smell of clear evidence pointing to user R T A. The IP number responsible, blocked for 1 day at 01h45, is consistent with similar identical attacks performed yesterday. Ibaman (talk) 04:56, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

  OK. Thanks for the information. I have to go now, but will look into this while back. Gday, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 05:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Do the check user with you want... I know you need my permission to run for an IP, there is, authorized.

and this? This not a thread? Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 17:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

At least it is unnecessary provocation. I would really like you (Rodrigo and Ibaman) to be a little more cooperative. Remember that you are both vounteers to help this project growing up. It's okay to spend some of my free time to help you resolve your conflicts, but I'm not here to play the police. Good night, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 21:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Renommage

Bonjour L'opération de renommage des utilisateurs me pousse à te demander conseil. Mon nom d'utilisateur est "adamantane" sur WP comme ailleurs . Sur en , il existe un utilisateur dormant - sans page utilisateur lors de ma dernière connexion - qui a pris le même pseudo, ce qui m'a empêché d'utiliser ce pseudo sur en, où je me suis inscrit avec "beryll". Comment puis-je faire pour conserver mon nom d'utilisateur actuel, et Ue ce soit mon homonyme anglophone qui soit renommé. Mon nom d'utilisateur est actuellement généralisé sur les autres WP et les autres projets. Merci, et bien amicalement.Adamantane (talk) 11:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)