Levelezőlisták

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A levelezőlisták áttekintését lásd itt.

A Wikimédia Alapítvány több levelezőlistát is fenntart, amelyek bárki által elérhetőek; a további információkat lásd alább. A legtöbb listán csak a tagok tehetnek közzé tartalmakat, azonban bárki olvashatja őket és feliratkozhat rájuk.

Kérjük, hogy a levelezőlistán tartsd be a wikikettet és kerüld a személyes támadásokat, főleg a tárgy rovatban, mivel ez minden válaszolónak megjelenik. Új levelezőlista létrehozását az itt leírt módon kérheted.

Általános információk

A levelezőlisták több formátumban is elérhetőek: webes archívumként, e-mailes formában vagy a Gmane átjáron NNTP-vel. A Wikipédia-levelezőlisták offline archívumai a következő linkeken érhetőek el: Gmane, MARC és MarkMail.

Bizonyos listák összefoglalói a listaösszefoglaló szolgáltatás lapján olvashatóak.

A legaktívabb felhasználók és egyéb statisztikák a Wikimedia Mail Stats oldalán érhetőek el.

Archívumok

Almost all mailing lists archive their posts and you can view these archives online by clicking the link on the main list information page. As in all forums on the internet, you're warmly encouraged to search and scan the archives for past discussions, before asking a question or making a proposal. Not doing so reduces the signal : noise ratio, hence it is considered uncivil and disruptive.

Using digests

Especially if you're not used to mailing lists (or bigger amount of emails in general) or you care less about some particular mailing list, it's useful to read messages in digests, which means you'll receive a single message containing e.g. all the messages of the day. You can set this in your mailing list options.

With digests it's way harder to actively participate in discussion (in particular the most heated ones): it's mostly for "read only" mode, voluntary or self-imposed. The next step is to disable distribution to your address and read only the archives when you have time (or even don't be subscribed). For your occasional replies, here are some tips to follow the mailing list etiquette and be sure your message will be put in the correct places and recognized by other list members:

  1. absolutely avoid top posting, which is most horrible when replying to long digests: include only the message you're replying to, if any;
  2. don't reply to the digest or create a new message to the list: instead, go to the web archives (for instance mailarchive:wikimedia-l), find the thread you're replying to, select a message (no need to waste time finding the exact one), and click the link after the name of the author at the top.


Specific lists

A word cloud of wikimedia-l discussions: now you know what they're about

An overview of all existing mailing lists is at overview subpage.

There is also an automatically generated list of public mailing lists, arranged alphabetically, at lists.wikimedia.org.

Wikimedia mailing list

wikimedia-l, formerly foundation-l, is the central mailing list for all Wikimedia-wide matters, whether they concern the projects, the Wikimedia Foundation, or the chapters. If you care about fundraising, starting new projects or debating global policy issues, this is the list for you. Posting in languages other than English is welcome, although English is a language most of the audience can understand. Multilingual posts (where the poster repeats the same text in another language) are also welcome.

Messages may be posted only by subscribers. Archives are publicly available.

Wikimedia Announcements mailing list

The Foundation also operates an Announcements only list WikimediaAnnounce-l. This list is meant to provide a simple, opt-in list where people can be rapidly notified of Foundation and Chapter announcements, news and upcoming events. The list is moderated and all replies go directly to wikimedia-l.

List administration

List administrators have complete control of every aspect of the mailing list, they can change individual list members' settings, moderate senders, change settings of the list, and more.

Please see mailing list administration for help operating the admin interface of mailman.

If you feel a list you are on does not currently have enough active admins to keep up with the workload, please first contact the existing administrators at <listname>-owner@lists.wikimedia.org. If they are inactive and don't respond, create a Phabricator task with your request and put it in the "Wikimedia-Mailing-lists" project (quick link).

Haladó kérdések és tippek

Splitting up the Daily Digests

Linux users can split up the daily digest:

Put the following 3 lines into your .procmailrc and activate procmail support.

:0:
* ^Subject:.*mailinglist.*Digest
| formail +1 -ds >>mailinglist

E-mailek törlése az archívumokból

Lásd még: wikitech:Remove a message from mailing list archive

Az e-maileket odatekintéssel kell a listákra továbbítani, mivel a minimális biztonsággal rendelkező archívumokból való törlés szinte lehetetlen.

Running bin/arch, as is commonly suggested, has the effect of renumbering all the messages, breaking all links to the archive. It's also buggy and has corrupted the list archives in the past. Because of this, our developers have made a policy of not performing any archive deletions. Instead, they will wipe the contents of the message but keep the message to keep the archives intact. However, this can still be problematic so please make sure you have a good reason for requesting an archive removal, bearing in mind that the email will still be in the Inbox of all the existing subscribers and in the archives not managed by the Wikimedia Foundation.

A Mailman fordítása

Ha a te nyelvedet még nem támogatja a Mailman, akkor segíthetsz a fordításban; ehhez kövesd a wiki.list.org lapon leírtakat.

Új lista létrehozása

To create a new mailing list, you have to request it in Phabricator. The bug should be placed in the Wikimedia-Mailing-lists project, direct link with all the information included.

Before making your request, you should familiarize yourself with the standardization policy.

Things to include:

  • requested name of the mailing list, ending in @lists.wikimedia.org
  • reasoning/explanation of purpose (and link to community consensus, if applicable)
  • initial list administrator's email address
  • secondary list administrator's email address (as a backup)
  • description of the list for the list info page (should include even if private list so ops and mailman admins know why it exists.)

Please note that all mailing lists are created public, and with public archives, unless stated/requested otherwise.

After submitting the bug correctly, your list should be created within the next few days. During that time you should read over the mailing list administration guide. Remember to add the mailing list to the Overview and to Gmane.