Stewards' noticeboard/Archives/2018-01

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Warning! Please do not post any new comments on this page. This is a discussion archive first created on 01 January 2018, although the comments contained were likely posted before and after this date. See current discussion or the archives index.

AAR2017

I've started Admin activity review/2017 and created Admin activity review/2017/Data. If you could please just take a look at this. Openbk (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Oversight information

On el:Βικιπαίδεια:Σημειωματάριο διαχειριστών/Αρχείο 2017/2 (which is an archive of the administrators' board in greek wikipedia) dozens of revisions have been oversighted, somewhere mid-December.

I request the following info:

  • Who requested to oversight these revisions.
  • What was the reason they stated.

-Geraki TL 11:18, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Geraki. That request probably can’t be fulfilled as this information is private and would be a mistake to disclose it. Do you have any reason to request this information?—Teles «Talk to me ˱C L @ S˲» 12:35, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

abusefilter/154 to be copied to active /153

... as my last word on this subject, please copy the test at /154 to /153 and implement. Having 153 as is is going to just duplicate /69 and is unnecessary and messy. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:09, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Ruslik (talk) 18:33, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Threat

Hi Stewards' recently I received AWB rights on English Wikipedia and I had installed JS wiki Browser on global.js . I can now use the script on all Wikimedia projects including one here at Meta. Since it is a tool that is used for making repetitive or continuous editing it can make huge edits. But I scare that it can also be used for vandalism on a very huge extend. This tool is used globally and if restrictions (as on enwp/Commons) than only specific people can use it orelse anyone can use it making as a free available mass vandalism tool. It has some check page that can only restrict its usage on that wiki. I request to find out a way that this tool and others similar (if any) has been made compulsorily asked local permission before usage on local project as a mass vandalism prevention step.

--Tiven2240 (talk) 07:35, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

There are easier ways of vandalizing than using AWB, and I don't recall any AWB vandalism on small wikis during my tenure. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. – Ajraddatz (talk) 08:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz: I completely agree that there are different ways too. But isn't mass vandalism possible by this tools? I had used it first on my local wiki almost 500 constructive edits but what about it if they were used for vandalism. In small wiki there are no frequently visiting administrators that can stop. Till the time they visit it would be a lot of disruptive edits. --Tiven2240 (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Mass vandalism can be reverted by stewards, global sysops, and global rollbackers nearly instantly using mass rollback scripts. We monitor small wiki recent changes using an IRC feed, and could respond very quickly. AWB does not pose a significant threat to small wikis. – Ajraddatz (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Personally, as someone who has fixed URLs crosswiki, I see this as a feature not a bug. --Rschen7754 08:16, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ajraddatz: am not reporting any vandalism here am just asking to find out a preventative measure. Is there a need for the vandalism to happen for taking any steps?. Can't we have some preventive steps for the issue I mentioned above? --Tiven2240 (talk) 08:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, as Rschen and Ajraddatz said this a) has its benefits and b) there is no problem. Thus a preventive action would not be warranted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Keep in mind the balancing of risk that would be needed as well with the work required to manage it; if you implement AWB controls on a wiki with little or no administrators, who is going to manage the legitimate access requests? I've personally fired up AWB to fix random templates, etc on small wikis that were causing Lint Errors - having to go through a registration process would have meant I would have just skipped it. — xaosflux Talk 20:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
This seems to be largely a solution in search of a problem.Whilst I appreciate OP's concern(s), I don't support any prohibition on AWB access on other-wikis.Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 15:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
As a Commons admin I have had to undertake crosswiki updates due to files, so having to seek permission on 00s of wikis to be able to edit would be butt-ugly, especially where there are no admins. As such I support the commentary about AWB and maintenance of the status quo. If we had an issue at a small wiki then it is a quick and easy measure to individually implement a stop measure at that wiki.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:57, 9 February 2018 (UTC)