Talk:Coolest Tool Award

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Questions[edit]

Is there some place we can see which tools have been nominated to avoid duplication? Do more nominations affect the likelihood of a tool winning? - PKM (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

All nominations will be kept private, so you won't be able to see the list of nominated tools. And, more nominations, the better it will be for a tool unless they are duplicate submissions :) SSethi (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarifications! - PKM (talk) 03:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

What will happen to the nominated tools? Masum Reza 13:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Masumrezarock100: The nominated tools will be reviewed by this year's committee & the nominations will help the committee to find & select the top tools to be presented at Wikimania. Hope that answers your question? :-) - BMueller (WMF) (talk) 14:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes. Masum Reza 14:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Wouw* that was very short time! Were this only technicians / WM people the target group? (I've not voted) -- User: Perhelion 09:14, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, no, everyone was invited to nominate tools. I'm sorry if you missed it/or if it wasn't clear that everyone can recommend tools :( It was not a classic vote though, but a call for nominations to help the committee to find & select the coolest tools. It got announced via Tech News, some mailing lists, Facebook, Twitter, and afaik a few people also shared it on other places (for example I've seen it here: de:Vorlage:Beteiligen). The timeline was/is quite tight though, as we had to wait until the Wikimania submission got accepted before starting with the actual preparation & call for nominations. I would hope once it becomes an established tradition, calls for nominations can also start a bit earlier & stay open longer. It's the pilot year :-) Best, --BMueller (WMF) (talk) 13:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
I talked to TheDJ, and he said there wasn't much nominations. Only few people have subscribed to tech news and other mailing lists. So they didn't know about this. My point is that it should have been publicized more in English Wikipedia and other wikis. Masum Reza 17:52, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
@Masumrezarock100: sorry, i only noticed this now. My comment back then was specifically on tools regarding English Wikipedia. Also we had quite a few last minute submissions, that I was not yet aware of at that time (because for privacy reasons i didnt have direct access to the submissions). We had a very successful event at Wikimania and we hope that this will return next year, with even more enthusiasm, more tools and hopefully even more nominations and more time to make those nominations. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 18:32, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
I didn't know about this but that is probably on me, I'm trying to keep up but it's not easy, and I may well have skimmed over the announcement and missed it.
I think it's a great idea, and hope it continues. while I was familiar with many of these tools, some were new, and at least one (page views analysis) seems to have new features I had noticed before so I'm happy to see that.--Sphilbrick (talk) 19:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you :-) this is great to hear! --BMueller (WMF) (talk) 05:26, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Award[edit]

I don't have the technical skills to do this but I hope someone could coordinate with those editors with graphical skills to either create a specific barnstar for these awards or some other way to create something that could show up on an editor's use of page to acknowledge this award.--Sphilbrick (talk) 19:13, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sphilbrick, we did that :-) we created a userbox template for the awarded tools and added them to the project pages of the tools, like here. Best, BMueller (WMF) (talk) 05:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Wonderful! Thanks.--Sphilbrick (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Very happy to see the creation of such award[edit]

I'd love to say such award is a great recognition for the technical contributions. It's really a great idea! Here is some of my suggestions:

1. Let's do it next year as well!

2. I think as more people start to take this award seriously, we can start to also recognize "nominees" and "honorable mentions" just like other academy awards.

3. Set up a public process for either the judgement process or the judgement committee selection will help advance award.

4. Consider invite the award recipient back to present next year award / be sitting on the next year's judgement committee, to create a sense of traditiony-ness

Again, great idea!

Xinbenlv (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Xinbenlv thank you very much for all the great ideas :-) - 1. yes! 2. we had that idea in mind for this year too, but had to drop it out of logistic reasons - but for next year it would be nice to have 3./4. - sounds good, we'll definitely consider that! Thanks again, and sorry for the late reply - I was out on vacation & had no internet access for a while! Best, --BMueller (WMF) (talk) 11:09, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Review[edit]

Tried my best to spread the word about first CTA in Ukrainian https://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2019/09/26/coolest_tool_award/ --Anntinomy (talk) 11:12, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

@Anntinomy: Wow, this is so cool! I added a link to your blog post to the materials section :) best, BMueller (WMF) (talk) 12:53, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Maybe a multilingual page.?[edit]

Thrilled to see inventive people get recognized and mentioned. Then, are we happy to turn the page translatable? Kindly push for translation, both yr2019 and yr2020 (: --Omotecho (talk) 08:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey User:Omotecho, I've talked to a variety of people about the possibility, but the situation is kind of complex since we want to keep the current edition in the top level page Coolest_Tool_Award, and that section is going to be edited and change while the award is ongoing, to finally be extracted to its own page next year when the new edition is planned. The rest of the page (the intro you marked, and from Coolest_Tool_Award#How_does_it_work downwards are going to be fairly stable and would be great to have translated.
The advice I've heard is that having most of a page translated, but keeping a section without translating is confusing when reading the page in other languages, and requires having justification in the source wiki text and maybe a visible notice about why a section isn't translated, and that isn't great.
Another option I've heard is moving certain sections to sub-pages, like Coolest_Tool_Award#How_does_it_work, and make them translateable there, and then transclude them into the main page. Kind of cumbersome but could be done.
Other options I've heard aren't great either, lots of tradeoffs really if a page isn't very stable and not going to change much.
The 2019 edition page 100% for sure should be marked for translation, as it is not going to change at all.
For now we left the main page as single language because there is no clear solution and the page is going to be changing, which is a valid reason for keeping a page out of translate.
Do you have thoughts about a good way to approach this? --JHernandez (WMF) (talk) 11:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Interesting challenge. There is not so many text...What exactly is getting changed? Can it be reduced to tool list and few lines? Zblace (talk) 12:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Basically the Coolest_Tool_Award#Coolest_Tool_Award_2020 section is what is going to be changing a bit for the next month. During the duration of the award (~2 months), that section goes through 6 stages more or less:
  1. Last year results
  2. New edition announced
  3. Nomination process open
  4. Nomination process closed
  5. Award ceremony announced
  6. Awards published
The changes are not tremendously big, but I was advised to not mark the page for translation if it was going to be frequently edited like this. It would be great to hear from experienced translators or translate admins about what would be a good way to proceed about this. --JHernandez (WMF) (talk) 15:32, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Who is the Coolest Tool Academy?[edit]

Who is the Coolest Tool Academy? Who did it get started? ChristianKl❫ 19:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:ChristianKl, the Coolest Tool Academy 2020 are زكريا, Neslihan, Masssly, Magnus Manske, Krishna, me and Birgit. It got started last year in the first edition in 2019. They original members are listed in Coolest_Tool_Award/2019: Birgit, Bodhisattwa, Brooke, Ladsgroup, Srishti, TheDJ, زكريا. You can read here how the Academy is formed. Let me know if I can clarify anything else. --JHernandez (WMF) (talk) 15:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)