Talk:Wikimedia Clinics

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Digest[edit]

Thank you very much for publishing notes about the calls, that's very useful. Nemo 07:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback! Asaf (WMF) (talk) 11:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Awareness[edit]

Hi,

Just dropping my early $0.02 that this page, and thus the clinics, are pretty hard to find out about. A little easier to find on meta-front page and perhaps a few village pump equivalents (obviously while it's in English, that would put a focus on en-wiki and simple-en). I couldn't make it to the last one, but it seems like a good idea, and would be a shame to lose it just for a lack of participation. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback! I announce the calls on "push" channels such as the Wikimedia-l mailing list, regional mailing lists, the Wikimedia General channel on Telegram, and the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group. I accept your suggestion to also publish them on the Meta calendar, though it has been my experience that that reaches far fewer people. Asaf (WMF) (talk) 11:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Title[edit]

The word "clinics" has strong connotation linked with hospital, is it intended? Infovarius (talk) 02:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I named the program in an allusion to legal clinics, but I understand the medical connotation is stronger for most people. Asaf (WMF) (talk) 06:33, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

FOSS options[edit]

Have options been explored that would not use Google Meet and instead use a w:FOSS alternative? Killiondude (talk) 16:20, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

No. What have you found reliable and easy for attendees? (e.g. not requiring installing software) Asaf (WMF) (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I was also not a google meet fan, with a notable issue that I couldn't find anyway to change the given name from what it picked up from my email account, which obviously releases some personal data. Nosebagbear (talk)
I have been looking at Jitsi and it seems like a great alternative with some features not found in Google Meet. More customization is available should wmftech install its own instance of it. Killiondude (talk) 17:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
@Killiondude: They did. --Yair rand (talk) 18:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
@Yair rand: That is great. It also makes me sad that there seems to be a lack of communication about communication tools within the WMF staff. Killiondude (talk) 18:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both for the reminder! Since sent invitations for the upcoming clinic (in Spanish) already include the Google Meet link, I won't change that one, but I'll schedule the next clinic using Wikimedia Meet and see how it goes. If it works well for us, that'll become the default for these meetings. Asaf (WMF) (talk) 18:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Wonderful :) --Yair rand (talk) 06:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
As promised, the upcoming calls will be in the Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet service. Asaf (WMF) (talk) 20:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Next Clinic in English date?[edit]

Hi,

Great to see that the WMF are trying out the clinics in other languages, but not speaking Spanish, I was wondering if the next date/time for a Clinic occurring in English had been decided yet? Since these often overlap when I'd normally be doing other things, more forewarning helps me try to nudge them a little to let me attend more of the clinic.

Cheers, Nosebagbear (talk) 12:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

They have now been scheduled, and additional dates will be added soon, including some for other languages. Stay tuned! Asaf (WMF) (talk) 20:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Should the program be renamed?[edit]

A few people have expressed puzzlement at the name "Wikimedia Clinic" (intended to evoke the concept of a w:Legal clinic rather than any medical connotation), and others have been troubled by the medical connotation in this era of pandemic. I am open to renaming the program to something easier to comprehend and less potentially triggering.

While I will not regard this as a binding vote, do feel free to suggest and endorse appropriate names for this program below, or contribute to the pros and cons sections. Asaf (WMF) (talk) 15:18, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Not a proposal, but, assuming User:Bluerasberry (or anyone else, I suppose) intends to continue the Wikimedia Café, perhaps the Clinic could be rebranded as something implying it to be sort of a "WMF-sponsored version" of the Cafe. --Yair rand (talk) 05:54, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion #0: Wikimedia Clinics[edit]

(status quo; leave it as it is)

Pros: it is status quo. It has gained a little bit of recognition/reputation already. It implies taking care of things, being able to bring pain points or problems and receiving meaningful help.

Cons: perhaps more people think of disease or the pandemic than of a pleasant, helpful place.

Endorsements: (for no change)

  1. When I saw it, I loved it - the name is ideal. he just needs a logo - a great logo. to get a clear picture in your head... --Mohammed Bachounda (talk) 14:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion #1: Video Village Pumps[edit]

Pros: clear wiki connection; differentiated from wiki village pumps by 'video'; evokes the get-together meeting-hall sense intended.

Cons: perhaps implies policy-making or decision-making off-wiki, which is certainly not the intent.

Endorsements:

  1. Ziko (talk) 19:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
  2. ...

Concerns:

  1. I would guess that "village pump" is not a very good cross-cultural name. Even as a white American, I didn't understand it for a few years. If we want to be welcoming to new folks, I think the name should be meaningful on its own. Also, I don't know how widely the term is used across our language projects, and in non-Wikipedia projects. Libcub (talk) 23:13, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
  2. ,,,

Suggestion #2: WMF Live calls[edit]

Pros: emphasizes the guaranteed presence of WMF staff, which is the main characteristic of these calls as distinct from other online calls

Cons: a bit bland; may be confusing with other WMF calls such as individual team "office hours"

Endorsements:

  1. Libcub (talk) 23:06, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
  2. ...

Suggestion #3: Wikimedia Coffee Break[edit]

Pros: It implies something informal: a conversation without clear agenda happening between sessions or (serious) work, during a coffee break :)

Cons: As any change, it might be not comfortable at first

Endorsements:

  1. --アンタナナ 15:44, 1 August 2020 (UTC)


Suggestion #4: ...your idea?...[edit]

Pros:

Cons:

Endorsements:

  1. ...