User talk:LZia (WMF)

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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello, LZia (WMF). Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

-- Meta-Wiki Welcome (talk) 00:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Orphans[edit]

Hello, thanks for creating new pages on Meta-Wiki! It's generally useful not only to categorise them but also to link them from at least one other page, otherwise they're so-called "orphans". I just de-orphaned your creation. ;-) --Nemo 10:04, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

IRC cloak request[edit]

Hello LZia,

you or somebody claiming to be you filed a request for a Wikimedia IRC cloak some time ago. However, this request did not contain a valid diff (the diff provided did not come from the production cluster. If you still need a Wikimedia cloak, could you please file a new request with a new diff? If there are any issues, please let me know on my meta talk page or on IRC (I am user QueenOfFrance). Kind regards, Snowolf How can I help? 07:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

@Snowolf:, thanks for your message. I needed the cloak to access #wikimedia-staff channnel but is resolved now. I will submit a new clock request if needed.

Data retention[edit]

As to be seen in Research talk:Increasing article coverage, e-mail addresses of users who have disabled their e-mail function (as Andreas Werle) or changed their settings (as Chricho) have obviously been retained and even given to external persons. However, the page Data retention guidelines says that "personal information" like "account settings" (as an example "e-mail address" is given) is only retained "until user deletes/changes the account setting". This is a clear violation of this guideline. What do you intend to do about that?--Mautpreller (talk) 19:08, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Mautpreller. No email addresses were given to external persons. Bob, who is a researcher on this project is a research fellow at the Foundation and has signed an NDA, Ellery and myself are WMF employees. Jure does not have access to non-public data. All email addresses were kept on WMF servers.
We have queried user table. Do you think that it is reasonable to exclude all users that have indicated they do not want to be contacted by other users via their preferences? Which other groups do you recommend we exclude? --LZia (WMF) (talk) 19:59, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
It is good that no email addresses were given to external persones. But you don't address the central point of what I said. At least two of the said e-mail addresses simply should not have been retained by WMF! They should have been deleted! Nobody should have these e-mail addresses! I am afraid there is an ongoing violation of data protection rules on the side of WMF. - I'd recommend that you use talk pages for a first contact if you are really determined to push on with the project. If people say: Okay, I'd like to participate in such a project, there is no problem to send an e-mail. I'd rather wish that you stop the project altogether as I think it will rather cause harm than benefit, but that's only my opinion. That there is a breach of privacy and data retention rules is, however, not only an opinion. --Mautpreller (talk) 20:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I answered one question/comment and I asked another question. Let's follow up on the corresponding threads in the Talk page. I'd like to keep all the discussions in that page for future references. --LZia (WMF) (talk) 21:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Greetings[edit]

Greetings. I saw your comment here. You seem very smart but technically inexperienced (I mean that as a compliment). Usually, it's the other way round. It's refreshing to see two staff members in the same department disagreeing openly - I know it happens in every office but usually people just pile on, depending on their affiliation instead of using their judgement. Your concerns about making this discussion about technical merit instead of ideological ones is also an excellent suggestion. I can probably take an educated guess and say the answer is, no to your first question in the above edit. Yes/no to your second one. I believe someone more familiar with Flow can elaborate further. Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions or for help with anything around meta. Kind regards. Theo10011 (talk) 00:38, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Theo10011. Thank you for your note. I'm not going to argue with your compliment. Thanks! Face-smile.svg
Re staff opinions on this specific RfC: The way I see it is that staff members who have expressed their opinions have done it independently, obviously people talk about these issues and learn from each other, but eventually, the majority will decide independently. It's probably harder to see this from outside of the Foundation (and this on itself should be fixed imo). Of course, being colleagues with the great people who worked on Flow puts us (the staff members) in a difficult position to make comments post the wikimedia-l announcement because there are confusions about the announcement and our responses can be interpreted as "colleagues just supporting each other". For someone like me, it's important that I can express my opinion on this RfC at my staff capacity because EpochFail has convinced me to document all my work in research meta and now if something changes at this scale, it can have impact on my staff time performance (whether positive or not). I need to understand the impact and how much control I will have over it before making a decision. And I'm with you, more of these discussions should happen in the open. It will help all of us gain more trust towards each other.
Re help: Thanks for offering it, I'll take you up on that. Face-smile.svg You do the same: please ping if I can be of help. --LZia (WMF) (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Your research activity on NLP and Knowledge Graphs[edit]

Hi @LZia,

First, I'd like to thank you for the endorsement on the StrepHit IEG proposal.

I had a look at the research project you linked in your endorsement message: at a first glimpse, I think I have carried out closely related work with the DBpedia fact extractor.
It would be great to collaborate, so let's definitely keep in touch.

Cheers, --Hjfocs (talk) 08:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. Just ping when you want to chat more, Hjfocs, and best of luck with your IEG proposal.Face-smile.svg --LZia (WMF) (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

F2F meeting in SF headquarters[edit]

Hello @LZia,

Following up our conversation at the DBpedia meeting in Stanford: what about a meeting on Monday 9th in the afternoon? I'll be in town, so just let me know when that works best for you. Tuesday at lunch is also fine. Looking forward to seeing you! Cheers,

Marco Hjfocs (talk) 23:03, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Marco Hjfocs. Tuesday lunch works well. I'll send you an invitation to your email.
@LZia (WMF): perfect! Just let me know where exactly I should be at that time.

WMF tracking users?[edit]

Hi, LZia,
I'm not sure where to direct this question but I saw your name as a contact for a research project so I thought it might as well be you! If this isn't your area, please ping whomever would know about this.

In this article in the Sydney Morning Herald, the author Elizabeth Farrelly states, "Wiki tracks the age, gender, language, education level, ethnicity and family situation of its editors: mostly childless, often single, about half of them university educated and almost 90 per cent male."

While I think this kind of information about editors would be useful to the organization, I was not aware there was tracking going on. Can you direct me to the research study that details this kind of information, especially the results of any study? I'd also like to know if this tracking is ongoing or was a one time effort and if it was just done for the English Wikipedia or for all WMF projects. I was surprised to read this sentence because I've never provided my demographic information so I guess I'm not one of the tracked editors. But, of course, the media is known for making mistakes so that is why I'm checking with you. Thanks for any information you can provide. Liz (talk) 19:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Liz. I did not read the article but I can tell you more about what kind of information the Wikimedia Foundation has access to from the list of "age, gender, language, education level, ethnicity and family situation" based on my experience as a researcher in the Foundation.
First, there is no systematic tracking happening. All the variables you mentioned may be collected as part of surveys sent to editors. Participation in such surveys is always voluntary, and these surveys are not very frequent. @EGalvez (WMF): may be able to expand more here.
Second, some information is shared by editors publicly, such as their reported gender, the languages they speak and their proficiency in those languages (through Babel templates). That information is available to the WMF as well as the community.
Given that you have read the piece in an article, I'm pinging @Katherine (WMF): who may be able to expand more.
I hope this helps. --LZia (WMF) (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
It does help and I look forward to any additional information @EGalvez (WMF): and @Katherine (WMF): can provide. I had a feeling that the reporter was overstating the situation but I wanted to check because if this information is available, I'd be interested in looking it over. Liz (talk) 14:16, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Hi Liz, I think you’re right in that this seems to be an issue of wording. As Leila mentioned, the WMF does not systematically track users in accordance with our privacy policy. We do publish studies, but all user data we use for research is available publicly, or offered voluntarily. The sentence should have said something like, “studies user activity such as age, gender...” The Communications team will reach out to the publication to clarify as well. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
For reference, I believe our latest editor survey was in 2012 and a broader user survey in the Global South in 2014. Katherine (WMF) (talk) 01:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I thought editors were surveyed in 2013 but I must be mistaken. If the last time a general study was done was in 2012, it might be time for another in 2016. ;-) Thank you for the information and links, Katherine. Liz (talk) 20:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Harassment workshop[edit]

Greetings! You are receiving this message because, at some point in the past, you have participated in a discussion around the topic of harassment. The Support and Safety team is holding a series of consultations gathering feedback on the best potential solutions to the problem. The next stage is a workshop where we hope to narrow the focus to individual actionable ideas and explore how to bring some of these ideas to life.

Best regards, the Support and Safety team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Happy holidays[edit]

I am currently doing end of year accounting, and it occurred to me that I believe that I owe you $2 from 2014 for misspelling your name. Please consider these your Christmas present, along with an additional $1 for the interest. (If you have a non-WMF account where you would prefer these to go please feel free to move this entire section there.)

Happy holidays, --Pine 07:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

hahaha! :D Thanks a lot, Pine, for being proactive about this. Paying them here is completely fine, given that the contract applies when people interact with me at my role as a WMF employee. Outside of that role, I'm more open to name variations. ;)
I hope you enjoy the holidays, and happy holidays to you as well. --LZia (WMF) (talk) 06:06, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Retroactive ping[edit]

No, it won't. Cheers, Nemo 19:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Nemo, for keeping an eye on me! :) I will add the pings as a reply to my message, hopefully this time not forgetting to sign. ;)

Translation of the blog post "Why the world reads Wikipedia"[edit]

Hi there,

I stumbled on your collaboration to the blog post "Why the world reads Wikipedia" thanks to the French Wikipedia hosted newspost RAW. I have done a translation of it here. I just thought it would be nice to inform the authors of the blog post.

Best regards,

Assassas77 (talk) 00:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Assassas77: This is very nice! Thank you very much for letting me know about it, and of course for doing this. :) --LZia (WMF) (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)