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Hi, I'm Britty in #wikimedia. WikiThanks.pngThank you for your translation!

No problem, you can find me on the channel most of the time, so if you need anything translated ASAP, just ask. Datrio 21:55, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Admin Abuse[edit]

Datrio, A group of editors and admins refuse to allow a balance of material and links. Gamaliel, Robert McClenon, Jpgordon, JamesMLane, and a few others now own the pages. Any attempts to modify the page is met by thier gang edits. They allow only links to pro kennedy sites, none to negative sites regardless of the wealth of content they may provide. They push their pov on all of the Kennedy pages. It's because of editors and admins like these that Wikipedia is doubted as a source. ie; the New York Times published policy against Wiki as a source. The group refuses to agree to consensus when it is against them. I've now been blocked by Jpgordon in an abuse of admin priv. My act was not vandalism, it's simply not agreeing with their one sided pov. I am not willing to endure any more arb or mediation. These guys are out of control. 05:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi Datrio!
One quick question about your skin, how did you changed the color of * (li dot) ?
Thanks, Get It 02:54, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, as you may see in the monobook.css skin, I didn't change it yet... Until now. This is what you need to change:
ul {
 list-style-image: none;
 color: orange;
Of course, simply change the color value for any different color. If you want to use an image, just change list-style-image: so it'll point to some URL. Datrio 13:37, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks :D -- Get It 16:20, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Switch Logo to[edit]


  • for the, please switch logo. The proposed one is here: (how can i protect it? coz at sd.wikinews upload is disabled) (the page is protected) I can't upload files because uploading is disabled. Thanks Alixafar 18:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Downtime report on WMF[edit]

Hi Datrio. Would you like please to finish the latest entry of Translation requests/WMFnews? Already (perhaps Polimerek) finished the milestones part but still downtime report needs to be cared for. And I think it is better and honest to report both good and bad. If you have no time enough, would you please ask another Polish editor if he or she is interested in? Thank you for your consideration, --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 19:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

translation notice[edit]

thanks for translating this (pl version). i've made the other changes, too.

thanks, kate.

sytuacja z TAW[edit]

a może jak już zostaniesz wybrany, to odbierzesz uprawnienia TAWowi? a tak naiwnie pytam ;-))))

Pozdrawiam Kwiecień

Sorry Kwiecień, ale tego akurat ja osobiście nie mogę zrobić ;). Napisz podanie do innych stewardów :P. A tak poważnie odpowiadam ;). I sorry, że odpisuję tutaj, ale sam nie wiem gdzie powinienem ci teraz odpisywać. Datrio 19:36, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Could you care for his statement too? Thanks. --Aphaia | Translate Election | ++ 11:54, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

sh = Srpskoхрватски or Српскоhrvatski[edit]

Hi, I almost finished Main pages on sh Wikipedia. You can go there an see it. I was wondering why sh Wikipedia does not have Interwiki name. I read on this page that sh Wikipedia whit tlh dont have interwiki. Can you, or someone else, fix this problem? Serbo-Croatian is Srpskohrvatski on Latin or Српскохрватски Cyrillic. I suppose that name Srpskohrvatski/Српскохрватски is to long. Can you put Srpskoхрватски? Thank you. --Pokrajac 00:03, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Angela has put request for interwiki link. I believe that it will be changed soon. I requested logo for sh wiki together whis Millosh. About letters: words on latin are written on Croatian variant of sh language and they are on yekavian. Letters on cyrillica are on Serbian variant of sh language and they are on ekavian. Everybody who talk sh can understand all. These variants enjoying same rights. --Pokrajac 11:56, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, no and no with capital letter at the beginning! This is the first. The second is that it is better to write "štokavski / штокавски" then to use national names. Please, fix it. (At least, it shoud be "srpskoхрватски", but it is better to stay linguistic, not national name.) --Millosh 23:19, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Re: Elections 2005 (on WP:PT)[edit]

Hi Datrio,
Yes, I know, I was "testing" it.

I voted first on the WP:PT and then on WN:PT, and then I voted again on WN:PT, but that time I voted null, for nobody.

My real and correct vote is the on WP:PT.

Thanks and sorry, Get_It 17:38, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

PS: Could you please delete my vote on wikinews and restore the one on Wikipedia ? Thanks, Get_It 17:40, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, and sorry for the trouble. -- Get_It 17:53, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bot Status for en:user:Yurik[edit]

Hi Datrio. Thanks for marking :*:user:Yurik as bot. I have added several more because i received a ton of requests from different site operators. They are (sl, sk, he, ro, it). User name is Yurik. All these and more are on the bot request page. You can see people's comments in my en discussion. Thanks!!! --Yurik 15:41, 24 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Have you had a chance to give bot status to all my accounts? I noticed that he: and some other already had it, but not all. Also, simple's admin has already given me the bot status on simple:, and renamed me. Thanks!!!

--Yurik 20:56, 26 July 2005 (UTC)Reply


Hi, Datrio. Thanks for the bot thingy. I might be asking again soon for flags on some other small wikis. Best, Taragui 09:34, 28 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I noticed that you granted sysop rights to this user on en. But I don't see the admin vote, and only a short edit history. Why is this user an admin? Did this user used to go by a different name?

My apologies in advance for the cuiriosity.

Professor Ishiguro interview[edit]

Morita42, active Japanese wikinewsies translated the page on meta; Wikinews/Interviews/The man behind the robot - an interview with Hiroshi Ishiguro/Ja. I just skimmed it and found it a good translation. He put a question on the page if your wording "if we can make an interview for WWN, it would be great". He wonders if it is a humble question whether the interview can be recorded. A short explanation on this part would be helpful. Thank you. --Aphaia++ 13:18, 1 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sorry Dat, but I can't help you now. Under the current situation about trouble on don't be unpleasant, I can't be working here and don't want to work for any English project. I'm very displeased. Good luck. You can find other help, perhaps. --Aphaia++ 02:02, 3 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks to you QUICK reply[edit]

Thanks alot for such a quick reply. dnt u sleep :)? you mean to say is that i have edit each and every name space. for example if i want to translate "Main Page" then i should edit here [1]

if you could help more....

while writing in arabic script text tends to appead very small. its hard to view even for normal eyes.can the font size be changed?? Wisesabre 15:54, 1 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

you still there ?

I edited the changes you said but no difference??? in layout WiseSabre

still no changes i even copied the exact ,tried changing numbers but no result

Is there any specific rule for using colors in wikipedia?(why all wikipedia have same style?)
and can we change logo and to what extent?
how can i give BOT a bot status?
why i am still admin (you said that i be only for week (1jul))
last .. Thanks in Advance Wisesabre 20:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
more thing english pasting this [[ur:user:wisesabre]] but its not showing link.ur:user:wisesabre


Hi Datrio! I put my request here but i didn't have response and my bot isn't flagged yet. Please help me! :) --Helios89 on 09:57, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for flagging my bot. I got very surprised when i saw a steward only 17....but forgive me...i'm younger than you...i'm 16 :) (complimenti!!) Helios89 on 13:42 (in Italia)

Link for starting a new entry[edit]

Hello Datrio, first of all, thanks for the is.Wiktionary sysop.

I have another question and am not sure where to ask for help, so I try this here first: There seems to be a problem with the link for making a new entry after searching a word that doesn't exist on the icelandic Wiktionary:

Please have a look at this for example. It should show a link to edit the new word but it shows: "No page with [[/w/index.php?title=Or%C3%B0ab%C3%B3k&action=edit|this exact title]] exists, trying full text search"

Please could you tell me how to solve this problem, or whom I could contact if you don't know, many thanks in advance, greetings, --birdy (:> )=| 13:41, 7 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks a lot, your proposed solution works fine! greetings, --birdy (:> )=| 15:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

DBAD protection[edit]

Any chance you can unprotect that now? Looking at the talk page, there's a consensus for it to go back to the old name and stay there. Dan100 11:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Aphaia seems keen to have a move-war at Don't be a dick. Would it be possible for you to move-protect it while it's at its correct name? Dan100 13:31, 10 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Help on automatic capitalisation[edit]

Hello Datrio,

please forgive me that I have to contact you again, but I hope you can help me out another time:

I have asked in wikimedia-tech channel for this issue already: Whom I may contact to switch off the automatic capitalisation on the is.wiktionary? I got the answer there that I have to contact Brion VIBBER, but he seems to be on holidays.

Please could you tell me to whom I can talk about this, many thanks in advance, greetings, --birdy (:> )=| 17:56, 10 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Urdu WIKI[edit]

Thanks alot for the compliments...
there is no community yet at
there was only 1 another reqular user other then me...he is also not visitng nowadays
still im working on the main interface...
these are my currents stats. [2]
im finished translating i think about remaining translation ,community should decide itself cause i could not find appropriate words for them in urdu.
Thanks Alot ur:user:wisesabre

Thanks again just having problem with wiki markup ،instead using html

Problems with Aphaia[edit]

I don't know if you're on foundation-l so you may not be aware of the recent discussion re:the Foundation-related pages here on meta. However the bottom line is that Anthere agreed that I should improve the pages here.

As part of this I greatly improved Template:Wikimedia. However Aphaia not only reverted my changes but then protected it, despite me asking him/her to consult with Anthere before reverting. Protecting a page one had been editing oneself would be an abuse of sysop privileges on any other wiki, but I don't know where to report that here.

Can you help me? Dan100 08:50, 21 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

I should explain more fully - the meta WMF pages are very hard to navigate. The Template:Wikimedia is now only used on a handful of pages - each subsection now has it's own navigation template, therefore there's no need for Template:Wikimedia to have anything more than the major headings, as I'd left it at in this revision.
I should add that Anthere agreed that I should attempt to improve these pages (I have also been given a WMF wiki login). I'm a little disappointed Aphaia just reverted on-sight - I believe it's probably personal, over DBAD. Dan100 09:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Dan100 you have no right to decide uniliterarily. We found Wiimedia Template useful; you were not perhaps. And we don't consider your efforts improve or fix. That's it. I admit you tried to "fix" it but from my view you corrupted navigation system between pages. As for your accusation, it proves only your nasty and bossy personality in my opinion. I don't support to corrupt current fast and quick navigation and oppose to add redundant and almost empty "navigation page" if the template won't be kept as is. Shortly I am convinient with the former template and don't like to chagne it. --Aphaia++ 09:07, 21 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

eh, please do not start an edit war about this. Frankly Dan, I think the current wikimedia template is more useful as is, that as a very short template, since one of our issues is precisely to find where information is. My feeling these days is mostly that we need to possibly rework a bit the main page, but mostly the wikimedia page on meta needs very badly an update to give a much better overall description of what the Foundation is and the various paths to explore to understand it better and access information quickly. Cheers Anthere 09:18, 21 August 2005 (UTC)Reply


Hi! I'm recently put request on bot status (Requests_for_permissions#JaroslavleffBot), but there's no activity I think ;). Please, grant JaroslavleffBot bot status on russian wiki ;) --Jaroslavleff 08:34, 23 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

czech wiki[edit]

Thx for your reply in If you have a short look at the czech wiki, you will see, that there are serious problems at the moment, even if the user Vit Zvanovec has no sysop rights. The atmosphere is very bad, he startet to crate new puppet accounts, yesterday he made a legal threath against some user etc. So I am quite in worry about the future of this wiki. Have a look there, please, you could understand a little bit more what is going on. Probably there will be a new voting on this matter, it is in discussion (not for desysoping, but a longer block). Thx for your help, -jkb- 12:08, 23 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

...from urdu[edit]

hi datrio, how are you?

again im here with question.. When should someone apply for Bureaucrate status. ( we have only 1 active admin and 1 off.)

Wisesabre 14:11, 27 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for previous Help! !


Good recovery. Take your time Datrio. Anthere 05:12, 30 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Csezcs or how do you spell it, Datrio! Also from me a good recovery, and I think I can say that in the name of some other users of the czech wiki, so keep on. -jkb- 13:29, 1 September 2005 (UTC)Reply


thank you for your assistance in granting me bureaucratship on Nauruan Wiktionary. I answered you on [3]. Thanks and Greetings! -- 17:00, 24 September 2005 (UTC) (CdaMVvWgS)Reply

AFD Bot[edit]

It got archived. en:Wikipedia talk:Bots/Archive 7#AFD Bot --AllyUnion 16:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Check user[edit]

Why did you make Grin check user ? There is a policy about giving that access right now, and this is not within policy. So why do you do it exactly ? Anthere 21:32, 7 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Bot flags[edit]

Hey, sorry to bother you. I noticed you have done some of the enwiki bot flags. We have some requests posted, for some time actually, and a few of the other bots have been flagged on other wiki's, just not en. I know there was a period where admin/bot flags could not be set, but was wondering if you could take a look at: Requests_for_permissions#English_Wikipedia_Bots. I wouldn't ask normally, but my bot in particular has been heavily needed lately, and I don't like flooding the RC, and I'm sure the others are used almost as much. I would appreciate it, when you have the time. Thank you. Who?¿? 23:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Wikibooks and Wikiversity[edit]

Hello. I am writing because I read your vote at the Wikiversity proposal. Many of the authors at Wikiversity, including myself, have been writing study guides and reading lists which, in my opinion, are within the scope of Wikibooks (Check the School of Mathematics for a good example of what I mean). Some Wikibookians have argued that the Wikiversity is beyond the scope of Wikibooks because of the vision expressed by some of the authors at Wikiversity. As you seem to think that it is too early to launch Wikiversity as a separate project, can I persuade you to vote in favour of keeping it in Wikibooks for the time being? Thanks for your attention. (Alex beta 12:36, 21 October 2005 (UTC))Reply

Your actions on Requests for permissions[edit]

Can you explain me, why you have:

1. Erased all the Bot-Requests on the Page "Requests for permissions" at 20:42, 2 November 2005 using a not helpfull comment ( Bye, Bye ) in the summary-section ? See at


2. Prevent any new input on that page , by occupying it ? 19:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Just check Requests for bot status. A link to that page is at the very top of Requests for permissions. Sorry, I should've made it more visible...
And I don't prevent any new input, like you said. Here's the log from that time:
[20:23] <rc> [[Requests for permissions]] * * (+416) 
[20:23] <rc> [[Requests for permissions]] * * (-418) See also -  
[20:24] <rc> [[Requests for permissions]] M * Datrio * (+2) Reverted edits by to last version by Avichai
First you added back your request, then you deleted it, along with two extra characters. Seeing that, I just reverted the page to its old state - I thought you already noticed Requests for bot status and that's why you deleted it - and I reverted it.
Well, I hope you understood me... Anyway, don't worry - every bot request either has been done, or is now on Requests for bot status. Datrio 19:46, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

I've modyfied the Page and hope, you can accept it.

Bot flag[edit]

Hi, Datrio. Could you give a bot flag for Requests for bot status#fi:wikt:User:H-Bot@wikt? I've been waiting for almost a week, and a lot of categorization needs to be done tonight. Thanks. –Hartz 17:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

The ID number is 185. –Hartz 19:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)Reply


Hi Datrio, I thought you said you wouldn't grant checkuser to the various ArbCom members (on the English-language Wikipedia) if there was disagreement from people [5]. Why did you change your mind? Cheers, Talrias 14:19, 12 November 2005 (UTC) Ignore my stupidity! Talrias 14:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Re: CheckUser rights[edit]

I asked because we're not planning on targeting anyone specific with these CheckUser checks (we just want to see if a majority of the users are from one IP), so I'm not sure if a somewhat random check would violate the Privacy Policy, which seems to say that we need probable cause before performing a check on someone. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 00:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

North Carolina Vandal[edit]

Hi Datrio!

I'm Antandrus, a sysop on the en: wiki. I notice that you've been having problems with vandalism from> Any edit from this range is probably the "North Carolina vandal", an extremely persistent vandal we have been dealing with on the en: wiki since about June of this year; he must have thousands of vandalisms to his "credit", and may well have registered over a hundred sockpuppets there. His edits are easily identifiable by stylistic reasons alone, but shutting down the IP range always throttles his sockpuppets, so there's never been any question of identity. I've shut down that range again on en:, evidently enraging him, so apparently now he has shifted some of his activity over here. Good luck! Antandrus 17:30, 2 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


Can you review it according to the changes made [[6]] please. Thanx! notafish }<';> 21:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Requests for bot status[edit]

Could you please take a look to this page? From 22nd November there was no Steward action and there a lot of bot's waiting to start working ;). Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 08:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Request for bot status[edit]

Could you please take a look and resolve some requests: some are pending more then 2 weeks. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 11:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


I'll leave this message on Wikipedia as well, but I wanted to make sure you got this. At Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, a couple users and myself are attempting to gather consensus about a possible change in editing. So as not to keep the community out of the loop, we've been posting to user talk pages, which seems to have worked. If you can add your thoughts to the talk page, it would be greatly appreciated. We've gone over a few issues, ranging from perception of anti-wiki to time limits, and recycling pagemove code, so you might want to check out #Rehashing to get up to speed. Thanks in advance, Mysekurity 21:30, 13 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Please, Mega Troll possibility needs to be looked at here[edit]

I am coming to you because there is nowhere else to go with this. I fear a mega troll (administrator) has been able to so firmly entrench himself within wikinews with meatpuppets and sockpuppets that he has obtained virtual control of the site. Now he is attempting to expand his power into Wiktionary. [7]. He simply uses his authority and extreme time availability to wear down and force contributors who are in his way off the site. He has also managed to drive a wedge between Admins and non-admins (basically forming a club-like clique among admins) to the point where a reasonable Rfda; [8] fails with 6 admins opposing and 9 non-admins supporting the Rfda. Amgine's dedication toward prioritizing group loyalty is manifest with this edit of his; "Your approach to Wikinews, in my opinion, is focused on articles. This is a common approach, but probably not the most valuable. I suggest you reconsider that Wikinews is not about articles, but about developing and maintaining an online community; the articles are secondary. - Amgine / talk 14:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)". Amgine also uses multiple signatures leading to different sites and one that leads nowhere.Amgine Amgine[- Amgine  03:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)]Reply

The administrative abuses are historical fact and are listed below and although the "troll" accusation is based on circumstantial evidence; I am also showing it at the bottom. The section below is from [9]

  • Regarding Amgine's activities as an administrator for en.wikinews, I have checked and double checked the information/links below and find the statements accompanying them to be true. Amgine abuses administrative authority consistently and has done so for at least 6 months. His user page comments even show he has a troll-like connection as an administrator with the project[10] as he openly announces that he has "left the project" while being the most active in terms of conflicts and blockings[11]; acting as a foreman or "boss" rather than in a collaborative fashion.
    • Here are the examples of administrative abuse. Amgine has had multiple long lasting disputes with many editors with Neutralizer being the most recent and intense. Amgine has not hesitated to abuse his admin powers by blocking/punishing editors like Neutralizer who disagree with him; even though wikinews guidelines clearly state that an admin should NOT block an editor with whom they are having a dispute (they should,instead, allow a different admin. to apply any necessary blocks to that editor). It now seems that the wikinews contributors can not get rid of Amgine no matter how hard they try; Amgine is able to deflect and explain away his misdeeds in a fashion that puts Shakespeare's "Artful Dodger" to shame. You may expect that he will become increasingly accusatory and employ vicious attack methods to get what he wants. Re Amgine; its a lot easier to get him in power than to get him out of power. Fair Warning !
    1. Amgine displayed his arrogance by summarily rejecting the resolution,suggestions of a mediator, Ilya (a wikinews Bureaucrat) after a mediation. "I do not accept your suggestion that I limit my administrative privilege use either to "vandalism or very clear violations of objective policies only, and to explicitly let some other admin deal with Neutralizer" or "submit a self-de-admin request." [12]
    2. Dan100's list.[13] of Amgine's "bullying and poor behaviour" (Dan100 is an admin.[14] in good standing at wikinews).
    3. Apparent vendetta blocks:
      A shows 4 of the spurious blocks Amgine levied against Neutralizer which were all later rescinded when other admins got involved [15].
      B shows the last block against Neutralizer done after Amgine and he clearly were in conflict
      02:13, 6 November 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 6 months
    4. Admin abuse; blocking Ed Brown for 1 month [16] 04:27, 11 December 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Edbrown05" with an expiry time of 1 month ; Amgine soon withdrew that block as he claimed a "software problem" had been the cause of the unjustified block. This time selection of 1 month for a long standing good contributor like Edbrown shows an abusive use of blocking
    5. talk page blanked and frozen by Amgine ( in the middle of ongoing disputes with this same person) [17] This is especially interesting as he did it just one hour after the talk page was made to prioritize the question of whether Amgine and another admin. are the same person.[18] As you can see below (6); Amgine has no problem accusing others of being sockpuppets but when he stands accused? Hell; just delete the evidence.
    6. More Disruption by Amgine; not assuming good faith:
      Amgine accused vonbergm of being a sockpuppet; "I do not have reason to believe you are not a sockpuppet."[19]
      Just a few days ago he accused Edbrown of being a sockpuppet[20]
    Additional "Troll" indicators
    1. Enigma = Amgine backwards •nig•ma (-ngm) KEY NOUN: One that is puzzling, ambiguous, or inexplicable. A perplexing speech or text; a riddle. Anything that arouses curiosity or perplexes because it is unexplained, inexplicable, or secret: conundrum, mystery, perplexity, puzzle, puzzler, riddle. Definition sounds a lot like a definition for "troll" to me; "puzzler,perplexing,conundrum"
    2. says “left the project” shows the opposite
    Neutralizer 19:19, 16 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

    Exactly the point ![edit]

    Regarding your comment; "Amgine has left the project, and that's that. There's nothing else that can be done, and most importantly, nothing else I could do. Datrio 11:03, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[21]"

    Yes, he does give the impression he has "left the project" with that message on his user page [22] which he put there July 3rd. But that messsage is simply not true! Just look at his "history" [23]. he has continued to be very active in wikinews(hundreds of edits in the past few days alone) and the most active in terms of conflicts and blocks ever since he put up that "left the project" message; it's just another example of how he likes to confuse and jerk around the project and serious contributors.

    recent conflict/block examples

    04:27, 11 December 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Edbrown05" with an expiry time of 1 month

    01:16, 6 November 2005 Eloquence unblocked User:Neutralizer (6 months block excessive, change blocking policy first, do not make policy through excessive actions) 21:11, 5 November 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 6 months (Consistently disruptive user, POVioring in articles, project pages, talk pages.)

    14:33, 23 October 2005 Amgine unblocked User:Neutralizer (Incorrectly blocked by me.) 07:26, 23 October 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 3 days

    01:07, 7 October 2005 Amgine unblocked User:Neutralizer (Lack of basis to block beyond disruption) 00:13, 7 October 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 3 days (Repeated publication to lead articles of disputed, unpublished article. Main page vandalism.)

    20:55, 3 October 2005 Eloquence unblocked User:Neutralizer (inappropriate block; no personal attack which places other users in danger) 00:34, 3 October 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 3 days (Repeated personal attacks on Wikinews:Administrators after warning on user's talk page.)

    and one of Amgine's recent conflicts; [24]

    and here is a record of how Amgine and one of his colleagues used IRC to plot and lay a trap to block one of our great administrators,[25] Simeon.

    see excerpts from [26]below;

    "Amgine "Need a hand?"

    Amgine <claps for Lyellin>

    Lyellin "talk page comments would be nice"

    Amgine "There in a minute."

    Lyellin growls again

    Amgine "Just a moment, almost done..."

    Amgine; "Your turn Lyellin. If he goes further, it's 3rr"

    Lyellin "done"

    Amgine "Blocked"

    Lyellin "sighs"

    Datrio, Amgine's user page message is just 1 of his "troll-like" indicators (that he enjoys confusing the project and its contributors). He has refused to change that user page message even though asked to by one of our bureaucrats months ago; "That said, Amgine, please change your user page, it's confusing. -- IlyaHaykinson 06:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)". Neutralizer 13:20, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

    Ok, I'm sorry to have bothered you; if you have no authority then I was wasting our time; maybe you can tell me whom,if anyone, does have authority in a matter like this? but please do not pretend that something can change because of having community support; this Rfda failed on Wikinews even with this amount of non-admin. support ( 8 active contributors) [27] The admins simply block-voted (6 opposed). Neutralizer 14:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

    Best wishes[edit]

    Dario,Oscar,Angela; Okay; if you folks want to ignore/deflect/not take seriously this alert; then I must accept that. Because of your positions as Stewards, I expect you are more committed/dedicated to the projects than I am.But I know I did my best to deal with this matter; and it's quite apparent you did your best not to deal with it. So be it. Neutralizer 19:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


    That's all the Polish I know, unfortunately. Thanks for the chance. --Paginazero 15:51, 22 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


    Hello. You commented at en:Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy that if the policy passed, you would help to spread the world on other projects. The policy has now passed, and has been implemented, so it is now in effect on the English Wikipedia. I've created a draft of a global discussion page at Semi-protection (which needs translating), but most of the details of the implementation are on the enwiki project page. Thanks! Titoxd 02:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

    John Conner 1967[edit]

    Hello. Why did you block me on the Cherokeen Wikipedia? I was just repairing and supporting the page. See my contributions: [28]

    Chr-Wiki needs help and i want to improve it and fight these vandal-bots. --John Conner 1967 00:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[edit]

    Datrio, please come forward and explain already why are you doing this? Who allowed you to unblock a vandal? Who allows you to threaten to deadmin people who block vandals? Who allowed you to call a vote to close a project? --Dcabrilo 23:53, 7 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    First of all, you unblocked a person who blanked dozens of articles. Bad - I blocked her for vandalism. Did you care to check her contributions? You unblocked some other people - that's OK, it was our admin dispute, you were being bold. But, how exactly is a vote to close a project going to help? Also, there is a difference between being bold and doing irrational things. I mean, you are aware how much you disrupted sh wikipedia and that according to "do not disrupt Wikipedia", you could as well be blocked? Also, you threatened that if I block a vandal, you will desysop me. Why? Are admins not allowed to block vandals? If you were confused, you could've come to me (third party), and I would try to explain the situation. But, when you don't understand what is going on, going about disrupting wikipedia you really don't have anything to do with is just unjustifiable. --Dcabrilo 13:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
    I have no consideration for what you did. I was in the middle of trying to resolve a dispute, when you disrupted the entire thing. You should go to sh.wikipedia, apologize to its editors, and remove the vote. --Dcabrilo 13:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Thank you[edit]

    Thank you for your kindliness Datrio. No doubt I risk to need your help in the future :) villy 21:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    First new steward to have a problem[edit]

    Hi Dario, thanks for the upgrade. I had seen you doing it on the RC. And I have allready a problem :)

    When I go to Special:Userrights I can enter a username, example "Walter". Then I have the interface to change my user privileges on meta. But I am unable to access the settings for other wiki's. I try Walter@enwiki or Walter@nlwiki, Walter@nlwikiquote . Even the example of Stewards does not work "There is no user by the name "James@eewiki". " I must doing it wrong but I do not see it. --Walter 21:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    steward rights taken away[edit]

    "Also, Arno Lagrange failed his re-nomination and, if no one is against this move, his steward rights will be taken away." Who asked you to take stewards right away ? I was stupid enough to believe that a former steward must be reelected to stay so. If I would read more cautionly the rules of the election, I simply had not been recandidating, and I would stay a steward. I noticed that Anthere had eard my suggestion that bureaucrates should may set bot flags. A good thing if it would be real. Arno Lagrange  22:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)Reply


    The election page mentionned extremely clearly that after the elections, the new stewards had to be approved by the Foundation and that the Foundation would define the exact number of stewards to be nominated. It so happen that I am fine with all of them, and so is Angela. But Jimbo did not have the time to agree yet. It is very rude of you not to let him have the time to do so. And inappropriate not to respect the election rules. Now, you removed the chance for Jimbo to express his opinion against a given steward. For him to say so would be damned hurtful for the steward in question. You may consider apologizing to Jimbo for not letting him the time to give his opinion. And next time, please read the rules carefully. Thanks Anthere

    Steward for Korean cluster[edit]

    Datrio, I have made a new section for this Requests_for_permissions#Stewardschip_Korean_cluster --Walter 09:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    hi datrio, thx for the fixing, @jawikinews and @jawikibooks work alright, but i am still unable to reach @jawiki and get error-messages :-( grtz, oscar 03:31, 14 January 2006 (UTC)Reply voting[edit]

    Hi, a week ago you opened voting for closing Can you now close that voting so we can contribute on peace? Thank you and best regards. --Pokrajac 16:48, 14 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Покрајац,јел ставарно не видиш да чак ни дечко из Пољске схвата да је твоја Прибатна Њикипедија небулоѕна??? How u doin Datrio,i wrote serbian articles about President Lepper and Samoobrona. Cheers 02:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)Reply


    Thanks for voting!

    Admin abuse[edit]

    block indefinitely[edit]

    I was blocked indefinitelly on false accusations that I am user:Bonaparte. Please check and do the proper measures against Sysop en:Mikkalai. I see that is not the first case in which users are blocked by this sysop and no measure have been taken to stop his abuse of power. He uses his sysop power to block innocent people. I am user en:User:Alucard sepetdalv.Alucard sepetdalv 14:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Admin abuse[edit]

    block indefinitely[edit]

    I was blocked indefinitelly on false accusations that I am user:Bonaparte. Please check and do the proper measures against Sysop en:Mikkalai. I see that is not the first case in which users are blocked by this sysop and no measure have been taken to stop his abuse of power. He uses his sysop power to block innocent people. I am user en:User:Alucard sepetdalv.Alucard sepetdalv 14:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

    this is also my case[edit]

    I was also block by this cruel sysop. It's not his first mistake I suppose. He may be obsessed about Bonaparte. Some things must be changed immediately. I am user en:User:Excaliburo and I am 63 years old. I request a check user and immediately unblock like in the previous case. --Excaliburo 20:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

    De-adminship because of violation of "administration ethics"[edit]

    How do you think, if an administrator violates so-called "administration ethics", but does not violate any Wikipedia rule, may administration privileges be dropped? --Jaroslavleff 16:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Page unprotection[edit]

    Could you please unprotect Help:Searching. The vandal left a long ago. Thanks. --Eleassar my talk 11:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Candidate confirmation[edit]

    How can I confirm? I am definetely qualified in all criteria, and have the interest. Thanks --Cerejota 03:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

    New messages on wfm[edit]

    Hi, can you have a look here please? :) jd  10:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

    On who can edit the election notice[edit]

    Hi. I wonder if you could comment at Talk:Elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, 2006/En#On who can edit the notice. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 21:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Candidacy comments Wiki pages?[edit]

    On Talk:Election_FAQ_2006, you wrote "No, voters can't add comments during the voting process. They can do so on wiki pages, if something important is to be said." I asked which wiki pages those were, please, but without answer. I hope I can ask you directly here. Which wiki pages would those be, please? AnonEMouse 20:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Translation of the candidate statement during the election?[edit]

    Six new candidates since the last time I checked (have had other stuff happening in my life), and the election starts in like two days. Currently I have fairly little time, or rather it is very difficult to predict from day to day. Sometimes i get a large chunk of time, but I have difficult to plan it. Is it OK to do translations of candidate statements, of improving existing translations, after August 1 i.e. during the election? I think I could have them all finished by August 7th or something like that, maybe earlier but it is difficult for me to promise. // habj 10:10, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Hello, I think it good. Not best perhaps, but it is better than nothing. I will write to call for translators on translators-l. Another solution is your local Village pump (discussion page) where you can call for volunteering translators who are willing to work on that. --Aphaia 10:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


    Datrio -- I'm in #wikimedia-stewards on a fairly regular basis, and every once in a while I find myself wishing I were a chanop; I don't suppose you could change my user access level to at least 10? Regards — Dan | talk 01:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Logo an:Wiktionary[edit]

    Hi, I'm Willtron, administrator of Biquipedia and Biquizionario (Aragonese Wikipedia and Wiktionary). We requested for a change of logo in Biquizionario some months ago, but nowadays we still have the English logo. I've been talking with a meta administrator, but he said to me that he can't do anything. Do you know what I have to do in order to change the logo. As I said in the request the logo was uploaded to Commons and to the Aragonese Wiktionary. Thanks --Willtron 21:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

    OK, thank you very much --Willtron 09:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Request to Stewards[edit]

    I've posted a Request that is specifically addressed to Stewards, since it appears to be a delicate matter. Please review it and express your opinion. Thank you, M/ M/ 22:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)Reply


    Thank you very much for your translations. :-) --M/ 15:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    "dzienkuje" (you know what i mean) from me too :-) oscar 15:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    FYI steward-status[edit]

    [Stewards] - a new steward election will be held soon. The most likely date for the election to start is 25th of November. This date can still change. Like it is now all existing stewards will need to reapply if they wish to remain steward. The rules of this procedure are still under discussion. All existing stewards and interested users for the function of steward can best apply as soon as possible.
    --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 18:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Reply


    A robot is destroying the breton wikipedia completely, and there is no administrator there to stop it! Could you help me to solve the problem: i.e. stop the robot? Thanks in advance! Benoni on the breton wikipedia.

    Admin Abuse II[edit]

    Timichal has written you have checked me. If he is right, you should be immediately desysopped. -- Zacheus 16:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Why? Datrio 19:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Checking is the last resort. It shall be used in cases such as voting frauds etc. Which wikicrime I have committed that I had to be checked? -- Zacheus 20:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    I cite the policy: "The tool is to be used to fight vandalism or check abuse of sockpuppets, for example when there is a suspicion of illegal voting. It must be used only to prevent damage to one or several of Wikimedia projects." Will you please respect it? -- Zacheus 20:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

    Reason for checking of users[edit]

    The policy states: "The tool is to be used to fight vandalism or check abuse of sockpuppets, for example when there is a suspicion of illegal voting. It must be used only to prevent damage to one or several of Wikimedia projects." Is a propose to delete one page vandalism? Is a propose to delete one page illegal voting? Please, explain this to me.

    "Since the check was positive, that's end of this topic from." ???

    I think if you promise to obey the policies your CheckUser/Steward rights should be preserved. -- Zacheus 21:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply


    Thanks for making me a sysop! :) Cbrown1023 talk 00:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply


    Thanks a lot! --Cruccone 15:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)Reply


    I confirm my request to remove the sysop flag from this account Vuvar1 20:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Odbierz mi prosze uprawnienia. Pozdrawiam... Vuvar1 20:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Checkuser access on simple.wikipedia[edit]

    Hello Datrio. I just noticed that you still have Checkuser access on the simple English Wikipedia from a steward request a few months ago. Was this intentional? —{admin} Pathoschild 22:03:35, 02 March 2007 (UTC)

    pls see here and comment[edit]

    Please see here. If you have anything to say so comment there please. Thx, -jkb- 18:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Username change[edit]

    Hey there. Per IRC: Please change my username to Sean Whitton - thanks! 18:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Okay, ignore that ;P —Xyrael / 18:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Recent Cu[edit]

    Hi - CU on books and just deleted an offensive picture on Commons that was apparently being used cross wiki - was your enquiry (CU) related to that at all? If so look in the log - one we have had quite a few problems with on Wikibooks. Regards (& hope you don't mind) --Herby talk thyme 10:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[edit]

    Dear Datrio,

    On May, 7 and May, 14 you added the website, whereof I am one of the owners, to spam blacklist ([29], [30]) with following reason: "personal attacks on ru.wikipedia user" ([31]).

    Before considering my further actions on this matter, I would like to ask you to:

    1. give me links to the alleged personal attacks, since, as far as I know, there are no pages, qualifying to "personal attack" on the site and in wikipedia.
    2. refer to the rule or policy explicitly instructing that sites containing attack pages on Wikipedia users shall be listed as spam.
    3. take into account the fact that, for a long time, has been properly reffered to by a number of Russian Wikipedia pages such as [32] as the host of article subject's homepage and works. It is also the only source, under GFDL, of about a dozen of Wikipedia pages (e.g. [33]), which currently cannot be properly attributed, due to their source's being blacklisted as spam.

    SFelix 09:45, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Reply


    I sent you an email. Tahnks, Yonidebest 12:48, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


    Hi Datrio. Because the board voting is being conducted on the external site this year, I don't think the Meta board vote admins are necessary any more. So, I have proposed that the old board vote admin flags from last election be removed here on Meta. See this discussion on Meta:Babel. Picaroon (Talk) 04:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


    Remember me? :P

    Anyway, I suggest archiving your talk, because talk pages that are ~103 KB long are a pain to read...or to write into. And this is 53 KB long as of 12:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC). See you around. :) --Roosa (Talk) 12:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

    One question for you[edit]

    Hey Datrio! What's deals it's Wikimedia Meta Wiki? I'm waiting for answer. Modif88 08:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Ps.My mother language it's polish.

    2007 Steward Confirmations[edit]

    Hi. This is a semi automated notice so my apologies if it seems a bit impersonal. You're listed as holding the Steward permission. As you know, Stewards get reconfirmed yearly, and it's that time again... I noticed that you haven't yet filled out your statement at Stewards/confirm. If you'd like to learn what the community thinks, please visit the page and put in your statement. Volunteers have been busily translating statements already. It would be best to do this before November 26, as that is when the page is opened for public comment, to coincide with the elections of new stewards. If you would like to not be reconfirmed and have your name removed, you can remove your section, or ask a volunteer to do it for you. I hope this information helps. If you have any questions or comments, there is ongoing discussion at Talk:Stewards/elections_2007. Oh, one last thing, if you already knew about it and just hadn't gotten round to it, apologies for the reminder! :) ++Lar: t/c 04:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Thanks for letting us know of your decision, I've noted it in the summary at Stewards/confirm. Your service is appreciated, best wishes. ++Lar: t/c 13:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks for your all work as steward ... and good luck in your new career! --Aphaia 13:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

    Re:User rename on pl.wikinews[edit]

    Thanks.. Borgx 03:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

    Admin confirmations[edit]

    Your rights were removed after the yearly confirmations. Cbrown1023 talk 00:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)Reply