Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Maps/Maps Improvements: Vector Structure, Disputed Borders, Cleaner Style

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  • Problem: The development of the Wikimedia Maps should be continued. Main wishes are migration to vector tile structure and fix the international borders.
  • Who would benefit: All wikis including Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.
  • Proposed solution:
  • More comments: Two issues very important for wikipedia maps

Discussion[edit]

Hi Naveenpf and all, it's been about a week since I posted that someone needs to cut this proposal down, or split it up into separate proposals. Ideally, the proposal would have the top two or three problems that are most important to solve. There is a ticking clock here -- the proposal phase ends on November 11th, and if this proposal stays the way it is, we'll have to archive the proposal, and it won't move on to the voting phase. The note about the "minimum a year/two years" needs to be taken out, and the proposal needs to be clear about what you're asking for. With the bullet list of 17 tickets in the Discussion section, we'll have to make it clear that that's part of the discussion and not the actual proposal. I'm happy to talk more about how to edit the proposal; please ping me here if you have questions that I can help with. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 00:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Can we have just two ? vector tile structure and fix the international borders. first one as far as I know development is over. Only testing and deployment is required. Can we have both of them ? --naveenpf (talk) 13:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Naveenpf: Yes! Vector tile structure and fix the international borders would make a great proposal. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 20:47, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
@DannyH (WMF): And will this proposal be renamed to better reflect its hobbled status? Gareth (talk) 08:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
I created one with the OSM issues [1] --Sabas88 (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
I created another one about OSM external data issues (above one being about styles/i18n). Pikne 17:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I wanted to mention something for people who may not know the history behind the two main Phabricator wishes mentioned above, T153282 and  T113008. You wouldn't guess it from the titles, but one of the very cool results of doing those two tickets is that the styling of our maps will become much more sophisticated. The art of digital maps lies in knowing what to hide or show, abstract or provide in detail, at what level of magnification. If we put those tickets in place, dynamic wiki maps will look a lot cleaner and generally nicer. Plus the issue of clarifying disputed borders is quite important. —JMatazzoni (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I've created some proposals; please adopt these if you're interested, otherwise they'll be moved to the archive:

p.s. I think the revised "main wishes" proposal should be resubmitted with a more descriptive name and this proposal should be moved to the archive. Gareth (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Is it in the cards to use background images that are actually useful as opposed to simply blank space? Google and Bing have contour levels and satellite images. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:31, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi naveenpf. Voting starts this week so I took a stab at giving this wish a name that more accurately reflects its new focus. I hope that's OK. If you have a better name feel free. —JMatazzoni (WMF) (talk) 16:16, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Fine !!! -- naveenpf (talk) 23:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Proposal does not state a problem. --Traveler100 (talk) 14:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Voting[edit]

  • Support Support EneaSuper (talk) 13:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Galobtter (talk) 19:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support SEMMENDINGER (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support This, that and the other (talk) 01:09, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support The Grid (talk) 01:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Ranjithsiji (talk) 08:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Afernand74 (talk) 08:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Mujeebcpy (talk) 09:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Maps are used extensively since their development and it’s a shame that we have to do these repeated proposals to continue to improve them. stjn[ru] 09:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 10:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Like tears in rain (talk) 12:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support DerFussi 14:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Naseweis520 (talk) 15:25, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sabas88 (talk) 08:54, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportTheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:48, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support problem with disputed borders should be resolved as soon as possible. Tohaomg (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jmmuguerza (talk) 23:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Rmikke (talk) 03:23, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Abhinav619 (talk) 09:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support The disputed border issue should be taken up as a top priority. Sankoswal (talk) 13:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support A very great proposal for improving maps on all Wikimedia projects. SshibumXZ (talk) 14:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 01:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sturm (talk) 04:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support kocio 21:26, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Zorzo Mirco (talk) 09:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Bubici (talk) 14:02, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support MarcoMinghini (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jack who built the house (talk) 18:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Spacearcangel (talk) 18:51, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Serhio Magpie (talk) 03:31, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Eluinie (talk) 08:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support IM3847 (talk) 10:19, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 10:30, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Manojk (talk) 11:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 00:33, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ultimograph5 (talk) 02:17, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Old maps are a shame. Mecki.DtH (talk) 12:22, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sorcrosc (talk) 03:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Disputed boundaries are a reality that affect numerous countries worldwide (China, India, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine, Palestine, Israel, Cyprus..) and impact how maps can be legally used there. There is no single worldview that the whole world accepts and to maintain the NPOV in Wikimedia Maps and have it usable in these countries it is necessary to support all worldviews simultaneously which is only possible with vector map tiles --Planemad (talk) 09:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 02:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ARR8 (talk) 02:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Kannan Talk 07:23, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ckoerner (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Izno (talk) 01:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Zache (talk) 14:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Thgoiter (talk) 18:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support APh (talk) 11:33, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Abijithka (talk) 15:25, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nandukrishna_t_ajith (talk) 21:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support -- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 17:07, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Disputed borders are a huge problem as we are very likely not to match NPOV. Situations when maps depict borders different from described in articles are very frustrating — NickK (talk) 15:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support RolandUnger (talk) 16:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)