Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Mobile and apps/Show navboxes on mobile website and app

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  • Problem: Navboxes are a common way to link between related topics on articles. These are not shown on the mobile view, limiting the ability of readers to browse related topics.
  • Who would benefit: Readers and editors
  • Proposed solution: Show navboxes on the mobile app and web view. Use side scrolling if there is not enough space, similar to how tables are handled.
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: T124168
  • Proposer: Feminist (talk) 04:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Hi Feminist. Thanks for submitting a proposal. Can you give an example too for people who are unfamiliar with what navboxes are? I think the term "navbox" is very English-wikipedia centric. I'd prefer to generalize it so folks from other wikis can recognize the need here and vote for it too. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
  • There are a lot of UI design problems with this proposal, and most of them are documented in Phabricator. There is also the download-size problem, also documented there. I don't really think this is a good CommTech task because of the question of navbox size. --Izno (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
    • +1 - I'm curious to how this would work? The templates need a lot of work and it's unclear to me if WMF is officially allowed to edit templates and whether that counts as paid editing. Enabling them as is would be detrimental to performance and user experience so doing so will require a lot of community support. Given the high amounts of votes for this has anyone thought about how this would be scoped? Is the request for some kind of consultancy on how those templates can be improved? Hindu Wikipedia did something similar with updating their main page for mobile. Jdlrobson (talk) 21:12, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Voting[edit]

  • Support Support Tom Ja (talk) 20:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yousefi 1234 (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:24, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support I think it could be made work even with the knowledge of current technical limits. Right now mobile version significantly lacks navigation options, so experimenting with providing more of them should be good. stjn[ru] 09:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 10:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Kpgjhpjm (talk) 13:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Carlodell (talk) 14:11, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sometimes I had to switch my phone in the desktop view so the navbox can be displayed. I hope there'll be a mobile version. CyberTroopers (talk) 14:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nouill (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yilku1 (talk) 17:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support JogiAsad (talk) 18:09, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Andree.sk (talk) 19:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportThanks for the fish! talkcontribs 20:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportAmmarpad (talk) 22:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Capankajsmilyo (talk) 00:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:28, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support I've been dreaming of this 日暮卯白 (talk) 03:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Patriccck (talk) 07:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support as proposer Feminist (talk) 08:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support DerFussi 10:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:58, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportMeiræ 22:22, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support -- Whats new?(talk) 22:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yesssss. Lack of navigation boxes and categories is the reason I very often open an article on mobile just to remind myself to check it out later on desktop. Joalbertine (talk) 08:45, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:43, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Mr. Fulano! Talk 21:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Perhaps some of the concerns about this feature could be alleviated by imposing a limit on the number of links in a navbox. Any navbox that exceeded the limit would continue to be hidden. This might encourage people to break up some of the awful, sprawling examples - and everyone would benefit from that. Gareth (talk) 12:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Vulphere 12:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Lord van Tasm (talk) 13:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support This is long in coming and needed.  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  17:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --FDo64 (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Berdea (talk) 10:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose unless communities are willing to put the effort in to make navboxes significantly more mobile friendly using tools like TemplateStyles, which were recently deployed for this exact purpose. Navboxes were hidden for a reason: they have very poor usability on mobile. In some rare cases even account for up to 50% of the data transmitted to a person's mobile device, significantly increasing their data usage, which is very bad for people in emerging communities that use slow mobile devices on metered data connections. Simply cramming something into the mobile viewport (when it even has poor usability on desktop!) and expecting to deliver value is naive. We should meet in the middle, by putting in the effort to make the navboxes actually mobile friendly, then consider putting them into the mobile views. --Deskana (talk) 12:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Lirazelf (talk) 12:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose just remove mobile frontend altogether and use the mobile-friendly timeless skin. Gryllida 08:20, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support - Please! Lazz R (talk) 18:14, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jared-li (talk) 02:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support At the very least they should be able to be seen on tablet screens Vctrbarbieri (talk) 02:57, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support HouseGecko (talk) 12:30, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Gce (talk) 15:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Chepry (talk) 16:43, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Kaartic correct me, if i'm wrong 17:13, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Martin2035 (talk) 09:04, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ethno & 4D (talk) 09:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ranjithsiji (talk) 22:59, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 02:24, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Misaochan (talk) 13:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Grawiton (talk) 20:34, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per Deskana. Daniel Case (talk) 18:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Fauvirt (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support - tucoxn\talk 21:30, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Netanel488 (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ldorfman (talk) 20:23, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Cymru.lass (talk) 20:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)