Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Editing/Advanced table tools on Visual Editor
Advanced table tools on Visual Editor
- Problem: When we use the VisualEditor, we cannot align the contents of the table cells, change the text color or the cell color.
- Proposed solution: Adding paint, alignment properties to the table tool in the VisualEditor
- Who would benefit: Wikipedians can get their work done much faster with this innovation.
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: T54180, T183976, T103276
- Proposer: Jelican9 (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
- 'Align' is definitely missing. I'd love to see it ! --FourMix (talk) 12:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I can definetly see the benefit of adding options to align text, set sortability keys, flip between cell and header type etc. Also would be nice to highlight the option for importing CSV a bit more. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- There is a lot of complexity here, even just considering alignment. Alignment can be set using the
align
attribute, thestyle
attribute, or using a class. It can be set on the whole table, a whole table row, or a table cell. That's already 9 ways alignment could have been set that can all potentially interact with each other. ESanders (WMF) (talk) 13:33, 11 January 2022 (UTC)- But setting a class and having some default classes listed might be a good idea. We sort of need to get rid of those inline styles anyway. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I do have one question. Is it possible to manually move images around using visual editor? I'd love to see it and this would be a nice thing to add. Rzzor (talk) 19:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think table tools is needed as we can color the tables, just like in Word, or Excel. An for @Rzzor, you can move pages around by copy and pasting. Thingofme (talk) 07:52, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I would like to further understand how you imagine this to work. Would you like to set the alignment of the of each table cell in the table properties dialog? KSiebert (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- For instance, one should be able to select a few table cells, or a few rows/columns, then hit a "right-align" button on the toolbar, then expect all text in the selected cells would carry the property of being right-aligned.
And, I think it would also be useful if it have features like cell merge and cell split like similar features found in spreadsheet software.C933103 (talk) 00:56, 16 January 2022 (UTC)- Cell merge and cell split are already existing features, see the manual. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:00, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- For instance, one should be able to select a few table cells, or a few rows/columns, then hit a "right-align" button on the toolbar, then expect all text in the selected cells would carry the property of being right-aligned.
- Just aA note that using colors for table cell backgrounds is often an accessibility problem and generally discouraged within larger wikis unless part of a templated system which ensures the accessbility. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- I would like to further understand how you imagine this to work. Would you like to set the alignment of the of each table cell in the table properties dialog? KSiebert (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think table tools is needed as we can color the tables, just like in Word, or Excel. An for @Rzzor, you can move pages around by copy and pasting. Thingofme (talk) 07:52, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I do have one question. Is it possible to manually move images around using visual editor? I'd love to see it and this would be a nice thing to add. Rzzor (talk) 19:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- But setting a class and having some default classes listed might be a good idea. We sort of need to get rid of those inline styles anyway. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Simple built-in option for static row numbers would be nice. Versus using w:Template:Static row numbers. And the ability to align a whole column quickly would be very helpful. --Timeshifter (talk) 07:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Add as many Word tools/conventions as possible. Lfstevens (talk) 06:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Voting
- Support Lallint (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Support Lion-hearted85 (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Clearly important, given how frequent tables are and how they're already one of the areas where editors gravitate to VE. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support --𝑇𝑚𝑣 (𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘) 01:30, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Support as we can change our tables faster. But VE is hard to load sometimes. Thingofme (talk) 15:11, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Geraki TL 15:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Yes please. Now when editing (non-simple) tables I always need to change from visual editor to wikitext editor. Stryn (talk) 17:19, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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