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Abusive reasons for block on Romanian Wikipedia by administrators[edit]

If you translate the Village pump of the Romanian Wikipedia you realize that the language used is abusive therefore there are making fun in a rude way about the fact that I graduated the school of engineers, they pretend that I have different gender identities, the use two double sens arguments either "I am a child" or "I am too smart to be a child". There is only one fair comment about me that I have done a lot of good work on reverting vandalism.And maybe this is the reason why some people are so upset with me that not only that they dedicated to have a rude attitude about with an abusive vocabulary but also to block me.I think that you have to check through the proper translation of the discussions that are going on the Reclamation page and also theVillige pump. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 16:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

My admin rights in es:wiktionary[edit]

Hello guys,

Related to this post on my discussion page on es:wikipedia, I really have no time to dedicate to es:wiktionary, so, kindly remove my admin rights from that project. Thanks in advance. Ricardo (Rrmsjp) 04:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --MF-W 04:20, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Notification of commons:Commons:Bureaucrats/Requests/Russavia_(de-Bureaucrat) per Cecil. JKadavoor Jee 12:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Stewards have a technical role with regard to adding and removal of rights. Our role is to await the outcome of any discussion, and for a bureaucrat to inform us of the outcomes at Steward requests/Permissions. Where there is no bureaucrat at a community, then a community member informs us of a discussion at that same page if they believe that the discussion is successful, and a steward will act as a bureaucrat and make the determination.

For the specific discussion, Commons is a self-managing community with all local roles undertaken. There is no need for any steward to know of the discussion in progress unless they are a member of the community, and if they are they are probably aware of that discussion, and partaking of that discussion would pretty well rule them out from actioning as a steward. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Renaming a user[edit]

Hello! I'm a bureaucrat on and I would need some advice regarding a particular username change (ro:Wikipedia:Schimbarea numelui de utilizator#Dani XXN → XXN). In this case, the SUL account with the new name already exists, but it has only one account with zero contributions, on (see Special:CentralAuth/XXN). Our policy on username changes is similar to the policy on "If the requested username is actively used on another Wikimedia project, the request will be declined to avoid creating new SUL conflicts." In this case, the requested username is not actively used, so I'm not sure what should I do:

a) perform the username change and instruct the user to request a global account deletion at Steward requests/SUL requests, so he can recreate a global account using his account
b) perform the username change and instruct the user to request an usurpation at and then a global account deletion at Steward requests/SUL requests
c) instruct the user to request an usurpation at then a global account deletion at Steward requests/SUL requests and perform the username change only after these actions are completed
d) tell the user that this username cannot be used at all

Please advise me what would be the correct course of action in this case. Thanks, Rsocol (talk) 18:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Option c would be the best one. If itwiki allows for the name to be re-used, we can delete the global account. --MF-W 18:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Region190 in bxr.wikipedia and also in ru.wikipedia and lez.wikipedia[edit]

I'm asking to take the actions to user Region190 in Buryat Wikipedia. Here is Requests for adminship page. In 28 June 2013, he requested the permissions of Administrator (in fact, he done almost nothing for the Project, but this is another story). All others Sysop-requests in bxr.wikipedia were occurred over one week, so this is in fact Request's discussion period in bxr.wikipedia. In 16 July, I closed the discussion (version). There was more than enough of time to offer all the opinions. 4 days later, Region190 independently re-opened the discussion. After that there were 3 more votes pro Region190 from obvious puppets (of Region190 or permanently banned user Gubin Mikhail - it doesn't matter) with their 1st edits. User Stas1995 wrote that he even don't want to vote against because he do not want to take the part in this farce. And he was right. I just reverted all the actions to the version of 16 July. Region190 starts to undid my editions and so on. There's edit-warring since 30 July in Requests for adminship page. And that is no good.

On the RfA talk page Region190 wrote: "Я продлил голосование потому, что с 5 по 10 июля меня попросту не было (я уезжал). +Многочисленные просьбы по почте." // "I've prolonged the voting because I simply was not there (I was leaving) from July 5 to July 10. + Numerous requests via E-mail." Excellent! What we see here? There was absolutely no opinions for 12 days. Thousand of ephemeral users send to Region190 e-mails with the requests to permission to vote for him. After I closed the request, I became the nasty suppressor of freedom and democracy in the Project :).

Meanwhile, Region190 starts the edit-warring to insert the link to YouTube-video with Gubin Michail's text of the song in the article about Viktor Tsoy - Gubin Mikhail is the schoolboy who can't be reliable source. Five (5) users (including administrators of Wikipedias) have revered this shameless edit, untill MF-Warburg finally protected the page.

This is just ultimate edits of Region190 who well-known in Russian wiki-community as violator, permanently banned in Russian Wikipedia, but unblocked on the terms of editing without violations, with the help of the mentor. But he previously used to make the violations. For example, this clounade with mass-adminship and putting Gubin Mikhail to bureaucrat with many insults against the users of another wikipedias.

He even vandalised Lezgi Wikipedia few times. In the name of what he did it? But I can say, the reason was in his comment when he completely removed my Warning as Administrator of Lezgi-WP from his Talk page. He wrote in Azerbaijan language (of course, using Google-translate) Narahat bir gəmi qadın. In Russian it is mean "Раскачивать лодку" "rock the boat". He just want to "Rock the boat" in different Wiki-projects just because he want it. I don't know why - may be bacause of his friendship with permanently banned in Buryat and Russian Wikipedias user Gubin Mikhail (by the way, this is the blocking in more than one Wikimedia project and I also request to thinking about the completely blocking Gubin in all of the projects).

As for me, this year I was temporary Administrator of Buryat Wikipedia for 3 monts. All of my plans that I wrote in RfA, were realised - translation of namespaces, introdising of wikificator, gadgets, cleaning the rubbish from the Project and so on. And I desided to not prolong my permissions myself, 'cause the Project got no any native speakers, it is hard to develope Buryat Wikipedia in this conditions. And exacly after my permissions came to an end, Region190 started to vandalise the project. This could have been avoided if stewards prolong my permissions without "community desicion" (wich does not exist), but now we have what we have.--Soul Train (talk) 12:32, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

My edits in lezgin wikipedia was three mounth ago! About buryat wikipedia: listen to this liar! I did not use puppets to vote! Yes, there was one doll, but not mine - I crossed out his voice and asked for ban after testing. However, it is not blocked. This "user" is the war of edits and still asks to block me! А Олегу совет: найдите себе переводчик получше))--Region190 (talk) 15:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Панибратствуй со своими школьными друзьями. С тобой я не намерен общаться.--Soul Train (talk) 17:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I have no proofs and also I wrote "Region190 or Gubin Mikhail" and also I wrote "it doesn't matter" who were they. They are not bxr-community and they voted in the closed request.--Soul Train (talk) 06:34, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Region190 continues edit-warring @RfA in Buryat Wikipedia, despite this topic. He has Warnings at least in 4 Progects - here (Meta), in Russian, Buryat, and Lezgi Wikipedias. Warnings from Global anв local Administrators, and Stewards.--Soul Train (talk) 10:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
    • In bxr wikipedia i was warning by this vandal user. In lezgi wikipedia my edits was three mounth ago!!! In ru.wikipedia i work good. On Meta I was warned for editing other user pages [1], but this user make this too!!!--Region190 (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
      And what? I have all rights to do this. And this topic is about your violations, not about me.--Soul Train (talk) 11:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
      • If i write about all your violations, thi pages will very small for this.--Region190 (talk) 12:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
        • Давайте я сейчас начну копаться в архивах и буду сюда кидать все ваши фразочки и писать о нарушениях пятилетней давности? Давайте? Нормально будет?--Region190 (talk) 12:30, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
          • За свои нарушения я уже отсидел, ты пока что нет. И опять же, это заявка по тебе, твоя тактика перевода стрелок тут не прокатит. Пока что ты получил недельный бан в Бурятской Википедии. Малейший твой прокол, и я продолжу твоё повсеместное изгнание из Википедии. Думаю, теперь ты уже почувствовал силу всего одного процента моей ярости.--Soul Train (talk) 09:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
            • Щас подожди пять минут.--Region190 (talk) 13:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I have just blocked Region190 on bxrwiki for a week. The edit-warring, first in the article which was mentioned above by Soul Train, then at the requests for adminship page is not acceptable. --MF-W 18:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Why you blocked me and don't blocked Soul Train? He too reverts my edits.--Region190 (talk) 19:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Because you are violator, I am (so as another users which reverted your editions) not.--Soul Train (talk) 09:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Region190 was permanently blocked in the Russian Wikipedia 2 days ago. Obviously, he should be globally blocked in Wikipedia.--Soul Train (talk) 22:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
    No. Not must. А самому то неприятно стало. Сразу как я заговорил. Вот OneLittleMouse точно так же меня забанил не разобравшись в сути как и забанили тебя.--Region190 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Two unfounded blocks Губин Михаил by Soul Train in bxr.wikipedia[edit]

Hello. User (last sysop) of Soul Train twice blocked Губин Михаил. Justifying it is violation of rules.

1) First block. He removed disliked his comments and blocked Губин for 1 month with comment: Я неоднократно предупреждал - прекратить комментарии в подобном роде. За это, а также предыдущие массовые нарушения правил ваша учётная запись блокируется на месяц. Нарушений было огромное количество, были предупреждения в том числе от глобальных администраторов. Я напомню, что в случае бессрочной блокировки в более чем одном разделе Фонда ты отправишься в тотальный бан во всех проектах. Так что несколько раз подумай, прежде чем позволять себе какие-либо новые нарушения, как то: оскорбление участников, обход блокировки, фальсификации и прочее.

In english: I have repeatedly warned - to stop the comments in a similar way. For this, as well as previous massive violations of rules your account is locked for a month. Violations was overwhelming, there have been warnings, including from global administrators. I remind you that in the case of an indefinite lock in more than one section, you will go to fund a total ban on all projects. So think about it a few times before you allow yourself to any new violations, such as: an insult to the participants, bypassing the blockage, rigging and more.

But I can not understand what he was guided by the rules when blocked, if the rules as such in the project no!

2) Second block. Second block he make 26 june because Губин Михаил added link on his translation of song Victor Coy on Youtube in article Виктор Цой.

This block has indefinitely with on edits his talk page, and sending emails. At this time Soul Train called him a "rascal", and promised a global block. However, once again, that buryat wikipedia there is no rule prohibiting dobavalyat links to their works. I have repeatedly asked the members to allow Michael license with, but he said to me, "только когда рак на горе свистнет" ("only when the cancer is in the mountain whistles"). And then I undestand, that he did not want to hear about your mistakes. He waits for cancer on the mountain.

There is evident abuse of the flag of the sysop and the unwillingness to correct their mistakes. And here he want, what Gubin Mikhail was globaly blocked! Yes, he is indefinately blocked locked in the Russian Wikipedia, but there it was discussed. In bxr wikipedia while situation is different: here the admin that blocks it is not popular with the participants. His block is not fair.

I believe that you need to unlock the participant Gubin Mach (at least Talk page and e-mail), and apply appropriate sanctions to the "sysop".--Region190 (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Stewards aren't going to take a side in this local dispute; if you want the block to be removed, you should discuss it with the community there. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Igor Janev[edit]

The following discussion is closed: not a matter for stewards — billinghurst sDrewth 13:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Stewards,
it was recently discovered in dewp that the article about "Igor Janev" was a fake. Either the person does not exists at all, or he is very irrelevant and the sources to tell otherwise are fakes. The article was deleted today under the protest of many sock-puppets and some legal threats (AFAIK there is a discussion at Jimbo’s talk-page too). The problem is that there are over 30 articles in other languages too. What is the right way to get rid of these? Can you delete them all? Can you delete them in the small Wikipedias and the big ones need a normal deletion-discussion each? Is this a job for the global-admins? Thanks for advice. --DaB. (talk) 15:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

The person really exists, but he just is author of a few journal articles, in the wikipedia article his notability was blown up by uncorrect statements. -- Aspiriniks (talk) 09:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
It needs a normal deletion request in the "big" Wikipedias; in smaller Wikipedias which e.g. have no local admins it should also be proposed and can be carried out by stewards or global sysops. For everyone's convenience, this seems to be the Wikidata item listing the articles, btw: d:Q1449737. --MF-W 17:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Deleted the article on enwiki under the "blatant hoax" criterion. --Rschen7754 19:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Also, note Ratko Janev, d:Q477729. --Rschen7754 20:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but Ratko Janev really is one of the most important physicists of Macedonia and a member of Macenonias Academy of Science and Arts. -- Aspiriniks (talk) 09:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, and all belongs to the same zoo of sockpuppets, see Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Operahome and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Operahome. Please note that the family is not complete without its dog, d:Q38991. I wonder if this zoo is a case for global locks due to its wide cross-wiki spam of machine-translated articles of questionable notability. --AFBorchert (talk) 20:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Also note Игор.јанев.мк on sh wiki. Possible abuse multiple accounts. --Kolega2357 (talk) 20:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Comment Comment The article "Igor Janev" was deleted on af, be, de, en, fi, kg, nrm, pt, sco, sh, sq. All remaining pages were nominated for deletion locally. Vogone talk 21:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Vogone how it was detected the fraud and hoax? --Kolega2357 (talk) 21:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
If you want to read some German: [2]. There were many suspicious sock puppets editing this article across multiple projects in multiple languages, so it came to Cu Faiol's attention. He found out that almost all reference links did not work and the VIAF/LCCN identifiers were taken from Wikipedia itself. Vogone talk 21:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I first noticed a couple weeks ago that there was a lot of cross-wiki spamming of one particular dog picture (a Tosa) going on, which first came to my attention in de:Tosa (Hunderasse). I reverted this in several wikis, then looked at the picture on Commons, which was in a category named "Igor Janev", which I noted on the talk page of the German Tosa article I found pretty hilarious. This lead to edit warring and legal threats by a plethora of sockpuppets, which I found surprising. I then looked into "Igor Janev" and noticed a lot of inconsistencies in this article, as well as the high number of interwikis. A lot of credit for this discovery should go to de:User:Anka Friedrich for her research, without which I probably would not have nominated the German article for deletion. --Cú Faoil (talk) 03:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Please refrain from unilateral actions on serbian wikipedia.[3][4] We have our local deletion policies. The person is real, so the article is not a hoax. It doesn't meet the requirements for speedy deletion. If you feel that a person is not notable, you can nominate it for deletion. --Wikit 12:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I cannot and will never know the deletion policies of all Wikipedias by heart, especially since I do not speak all languages. I thought local communities are clever enough to see that and will modify the request according to their local policies or just decline it. Anyway, thank you for the warning. Regards, Vogone talk 12:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
One option is to contact the embassies, see d:Q1197883, but I also see no big deal in converting a speedy deletion into a regular deletion request. I think that it was appropriate to inform other projects in some way or other about this considerable cross-wiki case driven by an army of sockpuppets. And nobody doubts the existence of this person but the references that were used to proof his notability are challenged. It is still up to the individual projects how they want to proceed with this case. --AFBorchert (talk) 13:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

See it on the Macedonian Wikipedia began to create false political campaign and calumniation. Spambots mk:User:БОРБА.за.МАКЕДОНИЈА and mk:User:БОРБА. за.МАКЕДОЈИА inserted links are fictional political hatred. --Kolega2357 (talk) 12:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

This is nothing to do with stewards, it is out of the scope of our role. The content of the wikis is the responsibility of each wiki. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

If the article is fake it should immediately delete. --Kolega2357 (talk) 13:54, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

This is not a steward matter, so the discussion should not be continued here. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st[edit]

As we outlined in our blog post on the future of HTTPS at the Wikimedia Foundation[0], the plan is to enable HTTPS by default for logged in users on August 21st, this Wednesday. We are still on target for that rollout date.

As this can have severe consequences for users where HTTPS is blocked by governments/network operators in addition to users who connect to Wikimedia sites via high latency connections, we've set up a page on MetaWiki describing what is going on and what it means for users and what they can do to report problems.

Please help watch out for any unintended consequences on August 21st and report any negative issues to us as soon as you can. Bugzilla:, IRC (#wikimedia-operations), or the (forthcoming) OTRS email are all fine.

—Greg Grossmeier, wikitech-ambassadors-l

Admin status on cy.wikt.[edit]


I just received your inactivity notice. Since I haven't logged in to that wiki for almost 8 years I had completely forgotten about it, and have no objection to losing my admin status. Regards, -- Arwel (talk) 06:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - done. Copying request to SRP for info. QuiteUnusual (talk) 10:09, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

en.wikiversity GS opt-in[edit]

Per v:Wikiversity:Colloquium#Opt-in to global sysops, the local community is requesting opt-in to the GS set. Could a steward please do this? --Rschen7754 18:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I would prefer if a local user/admin/'crat/whatever is appropriate based on local customs would close the discussion first, and then we can implement said closure. Snowolf How can I help? 18:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
User:Mathonius - what would be the appropriate way to have this closed? --Rschen7754 18:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks all. I've closed this proposal as supported by the en.wv community[5]. Appreciate your help. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk 07:14, 6 September 2013 (UTC) (en.wv bureaucrat)
Yes check.svg Done Ruslik (talk) 07:47, 6 September 2013 (UTC)