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Wiktionary Minangkabau[edit]

Hello. The Minangkabau Wiktionary recently saw a significant increase in its activities. We now have a regular pool of active contributors and recently-acquired dictionaries and other needed resources for a new project. Therefore, we would like the Committee to consider it for the next step into final approval. Thank you. Muhraz (talk) 10:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Activity only really started in December. It would be good to wait at least a little bit more. There should usually be at least 3 months of consecutive activity. Please also work to complete the interface translation (at least the most-used messages). --MF-W 16:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
As our Wiktionary has been steadily (and increasingly) active since the last message and the core messages are being translated, I would like to request for the Committee to reconsider it for release. Thanks. Muhraz (talk) 03:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
You and the community are doing a great job, @Muhraz. Still, I'm going to hold this request until you have sufficient activity in April, for two reasons:
  • 3 months is the minimum activity requirement, but 4—5 months is better.
  • There is still a technical problem in creating new wikis. See phabricator:T212881. Right now, there are three approved projects (Western Armenian Wikipedia, Neapolitan Wikisource, Hindi Wikisource) and two other wikis ahead of you in line. So nothing will happen on this for a while, anyway. It's better to continue to show your community's commitment by continuing to create content in Incubator for right now. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:37, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Very well then, we would be content to wait until next month. We expect to maintain the same level of activity, and I hope that the Committee would immediately consider our project for approval when the technical problems are fixed. Muhraz (talk) 15:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: It seemed to be fixed on 26 March. phab:T212881#5056630 Bennylin 03:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
@Bennylin: I just found out myself, and in any case have been very busy IRL. (I'm a volunteer, not paid staff.) I will get to this shortly. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I know, none of us are. It's just that you're the only person that I can ping. Bennylin 00:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, any update on this? Muhraz (talk) 09:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @StevenJ81: do you have any information about the Minangkabau Wiktionary and what should we do to make it happen soon? Harditaher (talk) 01:30, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@Harditaher: I'm afraid I don't. I've been extremely busy IRL the last several weeks, and haven't been able to focus on this. I will try to give this some attention this week. (But please don't forget: most of us here are volunteers, and we sometimes can't spend the time we'd like on this.) StevenJ81 (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks @StevenJ81:, We're looking forward to hearing it from you. Best. Harditaher (talk) 05:18, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Konkani Wiktionary[edit]

On behalf of the Konkani Wiki community, I request you to evaluate the Konkani Wiktionary test on Incubator. Regards, The Discoverer (talk) 16:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@The Discoverer: Apologies. Real-life, you know ...
  1. Activity. You're OK here, though about to miss on April. You need three named contributors making ten edits each over three consecutive months, and continuing until approval.
  2. Interface translation. See translatewiki:Special:LanguageStats/gom-latn. 24% for the MediaWiki core group is a little light; you might want to push that up a little.
  3. Content. Your count of main space pages is at the bottom end of active Wiktionaries; you'd be well-served to continue adding content.
    • More seriously, I'm concerned about how LangCom will view the quality of the content. Many of the pages look like this one, where all you have really done is provided a translation into other languages. At minimum, you want pages to look more like this one.
    • Even at that, though, neither your content nor the organization of your project really looks like the best Wiktionary projects. For starters, the first purpose is not to be a Konkani-English or Konkani-Portuguese dictionary, but to be a Konkani dictionary. The first definition should therefore be a definition of the Konkani word in Konkani. Afterwords, you can add translations. On the other hand, you can and should add lemmas that are foreign language words, and then give a Konkani translation, as you have done at devout. But here, your purpose should not be to translate the English word into Portuguese. Instead, that page should point to a page like "Wt/gom/bhagevont" (which doesn't exist now), and translations out to other languages happen there. (I'll admit: I'm not a big expert on Wiktionary. And I think we should be providing more support on how to proceed. I may go to someone I've met on English Wiktionary and ask that person to write a brief, simple guide.)
    • Also, since Konkani Wikipedia has both scripts, and your Wiktionary indicates it accepts both scripts, you probably need more Devanagari words in your project.
    • Finally, the more you can get other contributors involved in the project the better. Right now, this is mostly your show, and LangCom is reluctant to approve projects that seem like one-person creations.
Now, if you keep meeting your activity targets, and then get to 500 or so main space pages, and finish the translations of MediaWiki (most important) in gom-deva, I'd be willing to take your project to LangCom for consideration. But I'm not going to guarantee that they'd find your content sufficient.
Good luck. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81:, thanks a lot for taking the time out to write this detailed review. This will surely go a long way in helping us do the needed course correction. Following are a few comments regarding the points that you have raised:
2. Interface translation: We are working on this offline, and we are aiming to significantly increase the percentage for mw-core in both latn and deva. We will surely complete mw-most impt. messages in gom-deva.
3. Content: We will take your comments into account. We are planning one or more workshops for the Konkani Wiktionary in May, which should help increase the number of contributors as well as the number of pages, in both, the devanagari and latin scripts.
Thanks once again for your remarks. I propose to post here again when we have made improvements in the various parameters that you have mentioned. The Discoverer (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Status of Mon Wikipedia[edit]

Mon Wikipedia had been in process for approval since December 2018 and we still do not hear anything from Langcom. What should we do from Mon Wikipedia Group?

The best regards, Htawmonzel

Is there any update on this? NinjaStrikers «» 11:45, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ninjastrikers: Not really. I was not really pushing LangCom on any of this as long as there was a technical issue blocking creation of new wikis. There was no point in going out of our way to lengthen the queue. Now that the technical issue is resolved, I will push them again.
What you and the Mon group could do is to try to find me two experts who can verify the language. (Verification is a requirement for first project approved in a language. I ask for two experts so that we have a better chance of getting a response.) They should have strong academic and/or linguist credentials. Ideally, they would not be closely associated with the test project, but if their credentials are strong, that's less of a problem. Someone from LangCom can then contact the experts for language verification. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:26, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you @StevenJ81:. We'll working on finding the experts. NinjaStrikers «» 05:57, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Mon linguistic experts[edit]

Dear Language Committee and StevenJ81 (talk)

Ven. Kelāsa (M.A. in Buddhism, University of Kelaniya, Sri Lanka) is a Mon linguistic expert. He is an instructor in a Mon Pariyatti Academy in Mudon Town, Mon State, Burma (Myanmar). He received award the title Sāsana Dhaja Dhammācariya from the Burmese National Government. He is a member of central committee of Rāmañña Dhammācariya. Rāmañña Dhammācariya is one of the largest Mon Pariyatti Educational Institute and the second largest Pariyatti Educational Institute in Burma after the Government Pariyatti Educational Department.

This is Ven. Kelāsa's email,

Nai Sunthorn Sripanngern is a Mon writer and Mon linguistic academic, living in Bangkok, Thailand. He wrote many books in Mon and Thai including Mon - Thai Dictionary. He was a key member on making curriculum of Mon language teaching for Mon children in Thai primary school in Thailand.

Nai Sunthorn’s email is

If there are any problem to get contact with them or other thing that we have to do, don't be hesitate to let we know.

Regards, Htawmonzel 09:01, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia for Laki language[edit]

We have worked on the incubator version of Laki since 2012. It's discouraged the language speaker and contributors and if Wikimedia foundation submit the language and allocate a formal subdomain ( we start develping the Wikipedia for this language and encourage all of us.

Bests, Miladrahimi93 (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

WP Incubator test wikis awaiting content verification[edit]

Hello. There are several projects placed in this category. What is the overhauling time required for them to be definitely approved and open as independent WP? Because :

  • Wp/skr : ongoing since 10/22/2018
  • Wp/gcr : ongoing since 12/13/2018
  • Wp/mnw : ongoing since 12/17/2018

It's been more than 6 months! Where are the discussions on the working of these overhaulings? Is this a normal delay? Thanks. Axel xadolik (talk) 09:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Axel xadolik: Your point is well taken.
  • I have been busy IRL. I'm now trying to get some things back on track (see below). Thank you for your understanding about that.
  • On one hand, we should absolutely get those projects (including also Wt/shy) verified and in the queue.
  • On the other hand, there is still a technical issue in getting projects created. Even if these projects are approved, they're still going to sit for a while until the technical problem is fixed, and then until the two fully approved projects pending creation (Hindi and Neapolitan Wikisources) get created. In April, I didn't feel like there was a hurry because of that. But at this point I want to get these shaken loose.
  • There's not actually a mechanism in place formally as to what to do if we cannot get content verified. I'm consulting someone on that question now.
Again, thank you for your continuing support and your patience. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for a re-evaluation of Test Igbo Wiktionary[edit]

Hi StevenJ81, I write to request a re-evaluation for the above-named test wiki. This test wiki has been consistent for some months now, so I would say that it is no longer a person making contributions in this Wiktionary project. The project now has a community working on it. Also, the test Wiktionary now has an administrator.

Having said the above, I think it should be re-evaluated and possibly approved, thank you.


--Uzoma 21:59, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Back in business (I hope)[edit]

Hi, all. I have been extremely busy IRL the last 4–6 weeks. Always remember that we're all volunteers here; sometimes volunteers can do more work, and sometimes less. Still, I apologize for all the things that have been left in limbo recently.

I'm trying to get some of these items back in process now. Please let me work through them in a rational way. I will try to address the questions and requests that have come in here and on Incubator in the next week or two. StevenJ81 (talk) (LangCom clerk) 14:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Item #1: Getting already-approved projects created[edit]

Although Western Armenian Wikipedia was created recently, there is still apparently a problem with creating new wikis. (See phab:T212881.) So the Hindi and Neapolitan Wikisource projects are still in Multilingual Wikisource and can't be moved out yet.

Accordingly, I can't say there is a rush to look at projects that are not-yet-approved. They're just going to be waiting anyway. I am going to prioritize getting language verification on the four projects that are tentatively approved, pending language verification: Wikipedias in Guiane Creole, Mon and Saraiki, and Wiktionary in Tacawit. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Steven, Welcome back. Your great contribution in Wiki projects is really appreciateable and we always look towards your attention for our language wikis. I also request you for your kindness on Saraiki Wikipedia regarding its approval and own site. With best regards, Engr.ismailbhutta (talk) 17:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for a vote-judge within langcom mailing list for Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hanja 2 eligibility[edit]

Because, as far as I can see, there are a number of users who support creating a separated "Korean Wikipedia" uses Hanja scripts, which can simply fall into the 2019 revision I judgement case. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Right at this moment I am trying to catch up on some other things. I will try to get to this by sometime this (northern) summer. But there is a long queue ahead of this right now. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:06, 7 June 2019 (UTC)