Talk:Main Page/Archives/2013

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"Goings on"

Why is WikiFocus in the "Goings on" section, but other proposals for new projects (like WikiLang) aren't? WikiFocus is a very controversial meta-project, whereas WikiLang is quite an interesting idea. πr2 (t • c) 21:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Make things easier

It's incredibly difficult to update the Goings-on section of this page. Can this be made easier? And perhaps it would also be great if it was translatable. Any ideas? Mathonius (talk) 22:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

We could copy the idea that is used on the Wikidata Main Page. πr2 (t • c) 22:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Chapter news in Goings-on

Hey! Wikimedia Deutschland has recently released their project plans for 2013, with detailed descriptions of our goals, projects and milestones in English. We would like to encourage people to get involved in the discussion about those projects, because we think that 1) they have valuable input and experience we benefit from for our future work and 2) that there are projects which can motivate other chapters to copy the concepts and work on similar topics and 3) this might lead to fruitful cooperation between chapters. I'd love to see a link to those projects on the meta main page (goings-on), can one of the admins help me with this? Also, what do you think about creating something like a "chapters' news section" and a calender with important dates and deadlines on the main page? I'd be happy to join a group of people who are interested in revamping this page. :) Thanks, --Nicole Ebber (WMDE) (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Rename "Main Page" to "Home"?

Hi. Thoughts on renaming "Main Page" to "Home"? does this and I've always liked it. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe this should be listed on WM:PPM. πr2 (t • c) 20:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Sure, feel free to advertise this discussion wherever. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 08:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
"Main Page" is as Wikimedian as motherhood and apple pie.--Pharos (talk) 20:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Apple pie? That doesn't sound likely to be FLOSS compliant! And motherhood? With this gender gap? Not a chance! --MZMcBride (talk) 08:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Home is where the heart is. Killiondude (talk) 06:22, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Tell me more. --MZMcBride (talk) 08:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Main page is the standard homepage on almost all wikimedia wikis and wikipedians are used to it. I don't see an advantage in changing it. Oppose Oppose Snowolf How can I help? 07:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
"Almost all Wikimedia wikis"? I don't think this is true. :-) I suppose gathering information on the value of MediaWiki:Mainpage across Wikimedia wikis would be pretty easy to do, but there's no way that almost all Wikimedia wikis (or Wikipedias) use "Main page". --MZMcBride (talk) 07:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
A quick look told me that it is less widespread that I thought, having checked a few major wikipedias. I still think that it is most likely the overwhelming title, Regardless, it is the main page title Meta has had for ages, and I fail to see compelling reasons to change it. It is the default mediawiki setting and the most widespread English language title. There need to be more compelling reasons for changing meta's Main page than "I like it". Snowolf How can I help? 08:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The logo was not always the logo. The sidebar was not always the sidebar. I'm not saying we must change the name of the main page. I think you offer a reasonable oppose vote (you seem to prefer "Main Page"). But I do think this is something worth discussing and considering. Yes, it's ultimately subjective, but given that we will always point Main page and Main Page (and many other titles) to wherever the main page content lives, I don't see any issue in discussing the possibility of a change. --MZMcBride (talk) 11:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Why does it matter which title we use if the title (heading) is hidden on the page itself? πr2 (t • c) 13:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
It certainly matters much less. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 18:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't have strong feeling about the name of the Main Page, but I like "Main Page" much better than "Home", because it's such a nice peculiarity of (Media)Wiki(s). Plus, "Home" is a pain to translate. In German, for example, one would probably still translate it as Main Page, in lack of being able to use a translation of "home" in this case. --MF-W 19:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough. The response here seems to be somewhere between lukewarm and mild, so I think we'll stick with "Main Page" for now. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Main Page really is geeky and awkward. I don't know the true history, but in my invented history "Main page" was nothing more than Wikipedia's way of not clashing with the Encyclopedia entry for w:Home. Now, because most wikis don't have that problem, Home would be the obvious thing to call it, in keeping with Web memes. Cleaving to Web memes is good interface design. I say it is time for MediaWiki to outgrow its Wikipedia straight jacket, or at least let down its hair and come Home. Home is not such a subversive concept, when you get down to it. We could start the reasonableness ball rolling right here on Meta. This change would be refreshing and a sign of hope. I'm all for it. And yes, I have a nostalgic pang for when MediaWiki was a baby, but it's not a baby any longer. But change is so confusing. Yes, do it please, before I start to cry. And it would help newcomers feel at home, which would be a good thing. --Rogerhc (talk) 05:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

How to delete

How to delete a file / image which I already uploaded to Wikimedia? Thanks. Celica21gtfour 17:00, 8 April 2013

If you mean Commons: then go to Commons:Commons:Deletion policy#Speedy_deletion for instructions. Ruslik (talk) 10:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: /* [en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming */

On the the Wikimedia Forum, a bot said, that accounts will be changed, due to a program. Can any of you people, somehow, change the results.--Apidium23 (talk) 10:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Date format in Goings-on

Should the "Goings-on" section (Template:Main Page/WM News) use two digit, zero-padded dates (e.g., 06 May) or non-padded ones (6)? PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Another thing: should it show two months or three? Goings-on says two. Nobody else seems to be archiving these currently. I've created MediaWiki:Editnotice-10-Main Page-WM News as an explanation of the template. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't like zero-padded dates. --MZMcBride (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Down with zeroes. Killiondude (talk) 20:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Something's wrong

See the language list at the bottom. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:59, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

This beast was nested in one of the subparts of the main page, and is broken. I have removed it until someone can fix the issue. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Always English in "Community and communication" and "Core issues and collaboration"

The text in these parts of the main page is always in English, also when you're on the Dutch main page or the French one and even in this language, which I don't know what it is but its script is really strange. I don't know how to fix that, but can someone do it? Wolf Lambert (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure how translations work. I do know the text is in Template:Main Page/Community and communication and Template:Main Page/Core issues and collaboration. Do the triple brackets call translations? I have no idea. Killiondude (talk) 21:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I have fixed it; the TNT template previously did not work to transclude translated templates that need named parameters (these parameters were not passed). Now this works: all templates can be translated, independantly of the type of their parameters (numbered or named), or their total count. verdy_p (talk) 06:34, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Not quite sure how the front page works, but there's a proposed grant

I see there isn't anything mentioned in a section for September yet and I noticed in en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-09-25/News_and_notes that Programa Catalisador do Brasil/Planejamento 2012-2013/Parcerias/Ação Educativa/Proposal was mentioned. Can we mention that on the Main Page? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 22:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

You can click the "Edit / Translate" link above the news section ([1]) PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:14, 30 September 2013 (UTC)