User talk:Katherine (WMF)/Archive 3

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Communications between WMF and enwiki

Hi Katherine. There is concern relating to the current relationship between the Foundation and enwiki, particularly in regard to levels of communication. I sent an email about this to you two days ago (25 June) - see Please contact WMF. You may not have had a chance to read it yet, let alone compose a reply. However, there are concerns that emails are not getting through. Would it be possible for someone to send an acknowledgement that the email has been received and will be looked into? SilkTork (talk) 13:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Same for me. --Rschen7754 14:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
(+1) Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Re-posting here from enwp: Without any intention to involve myself in the main discussion, above all as a community member, and as a former admin here (enwiki) and elsewhere (not that the bits should matter), I would like to express my disappointment at the way the WMF has handled this matter so far, at various levels (and especially when it comes to clarity in the WMF-community relations). Although my contributions have been dwindling and scant of late, this climate of general malaise arising out of this situation is dispiriting (and given that this [sic] is enwiki, that's saying something). I do not wish to expound further on this issue here, but if you or anyone else should need my opinion, my email user function is open, FWIW. Lynch7 12:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Your recent tweet

You recently wrote: When you have to retweet your shitty pseudo-thinkpiece three times because no one cares. Please explain what you are referring to, and please ping me if you (or anyone else) responds. Starship.paint (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

+ Benjamin (talk) 04:25, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
++ Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Katherine, I've posted a similar question at your talk page on enwiki here. Thanks! Opabinia regalis (talk) 06:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
+ SilkTork (talk) 06:27, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Katherine. I'd also like a response to this. Preferably on the English Wikipedia. I'll also note, that the last three posters here represent a quarter of the Arbitration Committee. WormTT 06:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
+ yeah, me too. I am having trouble seeing how it can be taken nonspecifically. Hope I can be corrected. Casliber (talk) 07:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
i don't think any further explanation is called for. the open letter form of feedback, is not much of an improvement from "wikipedia has cancer". sea-lioning the ED says it all. Slowking4 (talk) 09:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Pasted here from your en: page: WMF have displayed appalling leadership and appalling communication throughout this farrago. And now you add the kind of childish hideousness that if done on en: could get you banned without appeal or information about your offence by your very own WMF secret police. Disgraceful. --Dweller (talk) 12:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

As Dweller noted on en.wikipedia,[1] Katherine is not active there. It's hard to argue she's active here either, having made two edits in the last 12 months, the last being 3 months ago. I'm rather concerned that 1/4th of the en.wikipedia ArbCom has the talk page of an inactive-on-meta CEO of Wikimedia as apparently their most effective means of communication to the CEO. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:46, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

They may have more effective means of communication but wanted to use talkpages since that's where Wikipedians discuss things? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Criticising someone directly onwiki is much classier than doing so without naming them on Twitter and then pretending you didn't. --Dweller (talk) 13:54, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
  • It is perhaps interesting to note that Katherine Maher has made more tweets in the last 24 hours than she has made edits to in the last year. Perhaps it's time to put down the twitter feed, get to work on solving this crisis and show some leadership. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Alas, I tried encouraging her to engage with the community 2+ years ago, but gave up as it seemed hopeless. It took me a while to realize that "community engagement" didn't really mean what I thought it did. Wbm1058 (talk) 17:28, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I've also commented on, and made Katherine aware of it via Twitter. She has replied to say she will take a look at it after she gets out of meetings this afternoon (PST). GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

How many admins will we lose during that intervening time? Will there still be a Wikipedia when she is able to reply? --Rschen7754 18:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
I suspect that there will still be a Wikipedia in a few hours. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the second part is a bit sarcastic, but I wonder what could be so important. --Rschen7754 18:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
[uncivil comment removed] Slowking4 (talk) 19:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
No need for that, Slowking4. Please review Meta:Urbanity and avoid making such comments. – Ajraddatz (talk) 22:27, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
sarcasm for sarcasm; i'm glad to see you are taking onboard civility enforcement, now that you agree what to call the consensus. no wonder WMF people do not want to engage on talk pages. Slowking4 (talk) 01:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
It frankly looks like, Katherine, that you don't care about the volunteers WMF is supposed to help and serve. That tweet was pure callousness that is an insult and it reflects badly upon the Foundation. We are losing more and more admins and bureaucrats every day because it is apparent WMF just doesn't give a damn. Why should any person volunteer their time, efforts and intelligence to contribute to a project whose CEO shows contempt for them? Liz (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi all, I've gone ahead and replied on my talkpage on enWP. I am sorry for the delay, today was the last working day of the fiscal year and there were a number of things that I needed to make sure were resolved on deadline. Katherine (WMF) (talk) 00:56, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry to see you have decided to move this discussion to enwiki. There is a whole community of Wikipedians who have been kicked off enwiki, but who still care deeply about what happens. I recognize at least one other banned/blocked enwikipedian right here in this thread.
Note: I hesitate to post here since I have been warned against any kind of participation in enwiki affairs by one of the enwiki admins. I sincerely hope I will not be globally locked for simply posting here. I have given this project many years and hours of my time, and would hate this to happen. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Ad Hoc Community Health Body For Resolving Conflicts In India

Hi, In reference to the mail here, I request you to setup an Ad-Hoc body and resolve the conflicts happening in India. This may comprise people from Trust and Safety, Community Members external to the Indian eco-systems and preferably Board Member(s).The problems are

  • Relationship between Affiliations Committee and Wikimedia India
  • Relationship between CIS-A2K and Wikimedia India
  • Relationship between WMF Staff and Wikimedia India
  • Relationship between Wikimedia India and Community.

May add few more points wherever needed. --Abhinav619 (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2019 (UTC)