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Wikimedia date

On our frontpage there seemed to have been a 31st of September.  Klaas|Z4␟V:  11:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Nice find! Fixed. You can do this yourself next time. :-) PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:24, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

I was in doubt if they were meaning October 1/Spetember 30 or perhaps in their part of the world they changed calender system and introduced a special date.  Klaas|Z4␟V:  11:12, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver account and User:Tangotango's milestone tool

Hi. I've looked for the most appropriate place to post this, and I hope this is it. User:Tangotango, a former admin on, appears to be a missing Wikpedian/Wikimedian. He had a Toolserver account with a nifty tool, Milestone. It reported your Nth non-deleted edit on a given wiki. Since Tangotango's Toolserver account expired in 2010, it seems unlikely that the tool will become available anytime soon. I saw that one of his other tools had been moved to another location, and it is being maintained by other people. Would it be possible to do the same with the Milestone tool? How would one go about requesting and/or implementing that change? Thanks! Willscrlt ( Talk | w:en | com | b:en ) 21:28, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

It would be great if someone could write/revive this tool on Tool Labs . PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:44, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia Highlights from August 2013

Highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia engineering report for August 2013, with a selection of other important events from the Wikimedia movement
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Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.

ru.wikiversity seem to lack active administrators

JFTR, the last active administrator of ru.wikiversity has decided to leave the project.

While I’d certainly be interested in maintaining order there too, I’m currently quite busy sorting the things at ru.wikibooks.

So, a volunteer may be needed.

Ivan Shmakov (dc) 10:25, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Are there many tasks on ru.wv which require admin attention besides regular vandalism cleanup routines? vvvt 05:05, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
I believe that vandalism and copyright violations are the two most prominent issues there these days. (Even though the overall volume is probably lower than that on ru.wikibooks just a few weeks ago.) — Ivan Shmakov (dc) 16:23, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

So assign administrators. What is the problem? --Адмирал Вуллф Юларен (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Я не вижу срочных задач для администратора, поэтому там и нет активности, а по сути такой администратор есть :) --SergeyJ (talk) 22:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Editor survey

The last notice I can find on Editor surveys was December 2011. What were the results? Did you discontinue running Editor surveys? If "yes", why? If "no", where can I find more information about WMF analysis of their users? Thanks. Nwjerseyliz (talk) 01:23, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Another editor survey was done in 2012, but the results haven't been released yet; see Research talk:Wikipedia Editor Survey 2012#Wikimania presentation. John Vandenberg (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there an scheduled release date User:Tbayer (WMF)? I see the end date was posted as November 2012. Is there a link to your video presentation at Wikimania 2013? Biosthmors (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't get a notification about your comment, only seeing this now (I think user mention notifications work only in the talk and project namespace, i.e. not on this forum page, which is in the main namespace). The end date on that page refers to the end of the data collection phase, not to the processing and publication of results, which was always anticipated to take at least a few months like in the previous editor surveys (the first editor survey done on behalf of the Foundation actually took 17 months until the publication of the final results, although we surely want to stay below that this time). At this point, first results have already been published in the slides for my Wikimania presentation and my short talk at last month's WMF metrics meeting, and blog posts with the full topline reports should come out soon. It's possible that the Wikimania presentation may have been recorded, but I have no idea when a recording might be published - you will have to ask the Wikimania organizers about that (see the #Wikimania 2014 thread). Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 05:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
bugzilla:55491 about the notifications. --MF-W 21:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Nwjerseyliz, the results of that December 2011 survey were published during 2012, see here (the page is linked from the blog post you found, admittedly not very conspicuously). Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 05:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Tbayer (WMF). I think this is extremely important data. I saw a stat yesterday that the actual number of very active Editors (100+ edits/month) on is ~3000 (and lower, of course, on other wikis) and I think it's ~10K for 10+ edits/month. I had no idea such a small number of people were carrying so much of the work. But this number is dropping, just like the number of Admins. Granted much of the encyclopedia has already been written but it still requires a lot of maintenance just to keep it from deteriorating. It would be interesting to discover what influences a casual Editor to become an active one. Liz (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikifiction (In-universe encyclopedia)

Discussion for this project proposal seems to have stalled. More comments (of any kind) would be appreciated. Thank you. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 00:40, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

The orange fundraising banner for anons

Where may I translate the orange fundraising banner that starts like this: Dear Wikipedia readers: We are the small non-profit that runs the #5 website in the world.? --Njardarlogar (talk) 11:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Hard to tell. You have to ask at Talk:Fundraising_2012/Translation (there is no new page for this year). --Nemo 06:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimania 2014

I know the WMF helps fund Wikimanias (or I think I know that). I've posted over here about issues related to videos/slides for the upcoming 2014 Wikimania. How does the money get to people for Wikimania? I'd like for it to be a settled matter so that this "service" is "bought" with community money for the community. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 07:43, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Asaf, maybe you could help? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Does anyone have any thoughts? Biosthmors (talk) 08:15, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

And on a related note, can we please get freely licensed videos of the following types of presentations in the future?

Wikimedia Foundation highlights
Foundation staff report on their work at Wikimania

From August 7 to August 11, Wikimedians from around the world came together in Hong Kong for this year’s annual Wikimania conference, organized by Wikimedia Hong Kong in partnership with the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Switzerland (see also this month’s movement highlights). The keynote of Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner was titled “The Year in Review and the Year Ahead” (slides, video), and the schedule included many other presentations by WMF staff and contractors:

WMF Executive Director Sue Gardner presenting her Wikimania keynote Steven Walling, Siebrand Mazeland, Diederik van Liere, Maryana Pinchuk, Howie Fung, Fabrice Florin, James Forrester (with Denny Vrandečić): “What is a product manager, and why does Wikimedia need them?” (abstract, slides) Philippe Beaudette: “Working together, but separately: a gathering of functionaries” (workshop; abstract) Arthur Richards; Siebrand Mazeland; James Forrester; Diederik van Liere: “Hacking our teams: Flexible ‘agile’ development at the WMF” (panel; abstract, slides) Tilman Bayer: “Editor surveys: Taking the pulse of the community” (abstract, slides) Siebrand Mazeland and others: “Ask the developers” (abstract) Santhosh Thottingal, Niklas Laxström: “MediaWiki i18n getting data-driven and world-reusable” (abstract, slides) Niklas Laxström, Amir Aharoni: “Multilingual Wikimedia Commons – What can we do about it?” (abstract) Sumana Harihareswara, Guillaume Paumier, Quim Gil, Andre Klapper: “Transparency and collaboration in Wikimedia engineering” (abstract, notes) Dario Taraborelli (submitted with Ryan Faulkner): “The UserMetrics API: Measuring participation in Wikimedia projects” (abstract, slides) James Forrester, Roan Kattouw, Ed Sanders, Timo Tijhof (with Inez Korczyński): “VisualEditor: The present and future of editing wikis” (abstract, slides, extended slides, video) Siko Bouterse, Heather Walls (with Jake Orlowitz): “Fun user experience is SRS BZNSS, and so can you” (abstract, slides) Katy Love, Anasuya Sengupta (with FDC members): “Nobody knows, but everyone cares: How to submit an awesome application to the Funds Dissemination Committee” (panel and round-table discussion; abstract) Asaf Bartov: “WMF’s New Global South Strategy” (abstract, slides) Diederik van Liere, Dario Taraborelli: “Datafying Wikimedia: Data products and services to empower our communities” (abstract) Brandon Harris: “Flow: The future of collaboration” (abstract, slides) Maryana Pinchuk: “Roundtable on Messaging and Discussions” (abstract, slides) Jessie Wild (with Martin Rulsch): “Wikimania scholarships” (discussion; abstract) Geoff Brigham, with the WMF legal team: “Discussing Our Legal Strategy Going Forward: A Talk with the WMF General Counsel” (abstract) Luis Villa, Stephen LaPorte: “Licensing Trends in Open Culture, Open Data, and Open Source” (abstract, slides) Pau Giner: “Improving the user experience of language tools” (abstract, slides) James Forrester: “Improving ‘admin tools’” – workshop (abstract) Matthew Roth, Victor Grigas, Tilman Bayer (with Eddie Erhart): “Wikimedia storytelling: how we show the movement to the world” (panel; abstract) Steven Walling and others from the E3 team: “Forget the tutorials, be bold! How one feature has attracted thousands of new editors” (abstract, slides) Fabrice Florin: “Notifications: A new editor engagement tool” (abstract, slides) Ryan Kaldari, Benny Situ: “How to enhance your MediaWiki extensions with Echo notifications” (abstract) Marc-André Pelletier: “Presenting the Tool Labs” (abstract) Erik Moeller: “Ghosts of Wikis Yet to Come: Three Stories of Wikimedia’s Future” (abstract) Jon Robson, Maryana Pinchuk: “Wikipedia Mobile – The Trojan Horse. Why MediaWiki has a separate mobile site” (abstract) Fabrice Florin: “Engaging users on Wikipedia” (abstract, slides) Matthew Flaschen and the E3 team: “Make your user experience easy to learn: a guided tour” (abstract, slides) Andre Klapper: “Improving MediaWiki quality: How everybody can help with bug report triaging” (abstract, slides) Fabrice Florin: “Article Feedback: New forms of collaboration between readers and editors” (abstract, slides) LiAnna Davis (with Mohammed Ouda and Aya Mahfouz): “Growing the Arabic Wikipedia through the Wikipedia Education Program” (abstract, slides) Howie Fung: “A look into next year: WMF Product Roadmap” (abstract) Pre-conference: Various WMF Engineering staff took part in the Wikimania DevCamp (hacking days) Rod Dunican, LiAnna Davis, Sophie Österberg, Frank Schulenburg: Various sessions at the Education Program Pre-Conference Siko Bouterse, Heather Walls: “IdeaLab Brainstorm” (workshop; abstract) Fabrice Florin, Rob Lanphier, Erik Moeller, Ryan Kaldari (with Andrew Lih): “Multimedia Roundtable” (abstract, slides)

Beyond these, Wikimedia Foundation staff and contractors also participated in various other panels and workshops, and gave lightning talks.

This was accessed just now at

There only two presentations that have video options. Shouldn't they all have been recorded?

Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 22:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

FYI, a wiki version of that list, with links, is at Wikimedia_Highlights,_August_2013#Foundation staff report on their work at Wikimania (linked on top of the blog post that you found).
I spent some time looking before I published it last week, but at that point it seemed to me that only the sessions in the main hall - keynotes etc. - were online at that point (and the VisualEditor presentation that was separately recorded by a WMF staff member, as opposed to the rest which were done by the local organizing team, I believe).
You are more likely to get an answer on the Wikimania-l mailing list, where this question was already discussed some weeks ago. Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 05:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. But couldn't the WMF lead the way by helping ensure their presentations are openly accessible on Wikimedia platforms? Biosthmors (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

One Idea

I don't know if is here the right place to share my idea, is it's not please help me. This days the mayor of my town (en:Braga) changed. Something very normal in democracy. And to change for the new one in all wikipedias? Lots of work, maybe in some languages they think is vandalism. Should have a tool to make this kind of changes directly in all languages. Someone die: like we do now with the interwikis, I change in one place, and it changes in all the projects. This will be good to save work and keep all projects updated. Imagine the president of the USA... Joseolgon (talk) 15:40, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata (d:) will possibly someday hold the content of infoboxes on all wikis. Currently, you need to update each wiki. If you include a source / link in your edit summary, it won't be reverted/ PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:43, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, as PiRSquared said, Wikidata is the project which was and is still being designed for this purpose. A few projects such as Wikipedia and Wikivoyage make use of Wikidata to store interwiki links. Data can be retrieved from Wikidata and can be updated once and it will apply to all projects using that specific property and item, however Wikidata doesn't have that good of a reputation at the Moment for reliability. If you can encourage the use of Wikidata within your local project, that would be great. You can ask for more help at our Project Chat. Thanks, John F. Lewis (talk) 15:56, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

d:Wikidata:First Birthday

Thanks to all who made this possible. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Flagged revisions

Hello Whether there is such an opportunity to include in the Chechen wikipedia function patrol as a Russian Wikipedia? -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 15:33, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

If you have consensus, you can log into bugzilla: (or create account). Then file a bug under "Wikimedia > Site requests" (e.g., click here). You should include a link to a discussion, obviously. PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:00, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Here are made. Thank you. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 08:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)