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Move page Movement Charter/Drafting Committee[edit]


I'd like to archive (or at least move) this page, to start a new page with information on the 15 chosen/appointed members of the MCDC. If I am correct there is no specific noticeboard for Translation administrators? Ciell (talk) 20:42, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ciell 1. What title do you want this page moved to? 2. The move can only be done by system administrators since it would require over 500 pages to be moved. 3. You were probably looking for Meta talk:Babylon. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:41, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the questions.
1) I was thinking something along the lines of Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Profile. 2) I understand this, yes. The MovStrat team has requested the members of the MCDC, that now have been chosen/appointed, to introduce themselves on this page, and we are preparing a set of principles and communications about the MCDC. This would make this page even more outdated then it already is, since the elections are over. We can of course just change the text and do a complete revision of the whole page, but I think for historical reference it may be good to keep the page history and all the translations in one place. But let me first get some more clarity in this from @KVaidla (WMF) and get back to you. 3) I am not sure what I should read on the specific talkpage you mentioned? I got a Mediawiki warning that I could not move the page (which is understandable), but there was no link on the page were I could discuss or request the move. Ciell (talk) 09:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Hey @Ciell, I see @Pols12 created phab:T296150 about this (it needs a Phabricator ticket, because the page has too many subpages).
Can you confirm (ideally, on the task Face-smile.svg) that "Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Profile" is the new desired title? I want to avoid having to move the page more than once, as it's not really a cheap operation (which is why it needs sysadmin's supervision).
Thanks, Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:56, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Martin, and yes: please hold the request. I have sent an email to Kaarel, and asked him how he proposes to handle this. We will reply on the task if a move is still desired, or if not I'll just close the task. Ciell (talk) 14:46, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
I have open T296150 for your request: requests to sysadmin happen on Phabricator.
The third item of 1234qwer1234qwer4 was an answer to your question about “specific noticeboard”. Officially, you’re on the right page, but I think like 1234qwer1234qwer4 that Babylon talk page is more appropriate to talk about translatable page issues. -- Pols12 (talk) 12:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
@Pols12 Maybe this information could be added to the information page? It now only reads : "You do not have permission to manage translatable pages, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Translation administrators."
A link to a discussion page could be helpful. Ciell (talk) 14:54, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • @Pols12 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand, the above request, as it is currently phrased and discussed, seems to imply moving all the subpages within the name space of Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/XX. This may include, for example, moving the Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Candidates page, which includes 700 translation subpages in over a dozen language. As someone who has been creating and curating these pages, however, this is not the request and it is not a useful move. Instead, I would look for moving only the individual page named Movement Charter/Drafting Committee (with its translations), in order to replace it with newer content. Do you think that would be possible? --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 11:06, 22 November 2021 (UTC).
    Don’t worry, there is no technical need to move subpages along with the translatable page, and I don’t think this was the Ciell request. But you do well to point this issue: sysadmin who will handle this request (probably Martin) must know whether to move subpages. -- Pols12 (talk) 23:11, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
@Pols12 Thank you for this reassurance, I just wanted to make sure! Should we be following on this move on Phabricator? Anything else I can/should do at the moment? --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 13:33, 29 November 2021 (UTC).
@Abbad (WMF) Someone (not necessarily you) needs to define the final new name and report it at the Phabricator task, so a sysadmin can do the rename. Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:52, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
@Martin Urbanec Thank you for clarifying! I'll check with Ciell and reply there --Abbad (WMF) (talk) 14:02, 29 November 2021 (UTC).
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MassMessage senders[edit]

Hello, I am Korean Wikipedia user. I want to get MassMessage senders permission. I want to inform Korean Wikipedia users. Although the contribution here is small, it has more than 4300 contributions on Korean Wikipedia. This article has Google Translate working-Jyoo1011 (talk) 10:28, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

@Jyoo1011 Are you wanting to just message users on kowiki alone, then maybe a local kowiki request might be better, let's hear from @Sotiale or @-revi. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
TBH... I'm not sure what I should check. This request doesn't imply anything other than that Jyoo1011 wants mass message sender flag. There is no indication of what this user wants other users to know, they have no idea how it will be used in the future. --Sotiale (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
@Jyoo1011 Per ^^^, please give us a list of recipients for your MMS as well as a sample message you want to send. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:08, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
@Jyoo1011 Final ping. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:00, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
X mark.svg Not done No reply. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
12:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

History merge for Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal[edit]

Hello, Given Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal has been created from its (now) /old subpage, and Talk:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal has been created from a duplicate in Template namespace, can you proceed to these two different history merges, please? (No opposition from duplicates’ author.) Pols12 (talk) 12:00, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Someone should also history merge Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/temp/styles.css to Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/styles.css, Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL, Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Organizations Information to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Organizations Information, Template talk:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Organizations Information to Talk:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Organizations Information, Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Formerly Active Affiliates to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Formerly Active Affiliates, Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL, Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL/List Of All Countries to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL/List Of All Countries, and Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL/List Of All Wikimedia Affiliates to Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/MRL/List Of All Wikimedia Affiliates. This mess should be cleaned up everywhere, not just in the obvious places. * Pppery * it has begun 16:13, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Done by @DAlangi (WMF)? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
19:36, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
It appears that you merged just the talk page histories, but should also merge the history of all the other pages mentioned in my previous comment. * Pppery * it has begun 02:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I had assumed these were redlinks created after merging. I can do the rest in a while if nobody decides to do it first. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:43, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Translating into specific language disallowed on certain pages[edit]

Greetings. When I try to start a new translation on certain pages such as this one, I've been encountered with a message that says This page cannot be translated to [language name here]; A translation administrator decided that this page can only be translated to [some other language names here].

I could find out that there was at least one case that such limitation has been set due to the tight timeframe for the objective of such page, but it seems that the one I am trying to start translating isn't that case. Can anyone mind explaining what I can do in order to make it available for translation in my language? -- 05:27, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

That discussion would belong on the talk page of the relevant page, and you should invite the translation admin who made that decision to the conversation. You will see who marked it for translation on the page's history.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:35, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Actually, you will rather see who marked the page for translation in the page’s logs (this appears in history only if a change has been included in the page as well). -- Pols12 (talk) 14:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


SCP-2000 10:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's a bit problematic. I've placed a 3 months {{anonblock}} here as well. Virtually all their edits are reverted. Account creation is still possible. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
13:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Please explain in details what you mean. And please stop the RRing on RFD, Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
In short, this user was indeffed on Commons after 2 edits and is now requesting for deletion of it (the project as a whole). Does that really look like a serious request? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:46, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Valid point. Seems trolling as what you put but clearly not blatant vandalism which will allow you to go beyond the 3RR. Hope you get what I am meaning. Just report it per and leave it alone and let admins determine from now. Edit warring that content to and fro isn't productive. @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
+ What we can do is to talk to that user, voice our concerns, per the bold, revert discuss cycle if you think there's merit in discussing. But if you think is vandalism, at least some warnings may be useful. Just my 2 cents. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:50, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Sorry for violating 3RR, I won't next time. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I mean not worth getting blocked over such issues, I will treat this as a note to you. I am also not familiar with the context of this user behaviour over at commons, so will defer to another sysop to determine. In the meantime, ignore them will be the best @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • We are not an SPA, thank you very much. This deletion request is totally serious, viz. events associated with that block, plus a whole host of insurmountable problems stretching back many years.
Beyond all hope. Suggest we delete the whole thing and start again. --Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen (talk) 12:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC) Secretary-General, Wikimedia Affiliates Association
See: for example

--Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC) Wikimedia Affiliates Association

Blocked indef. This ain't no playground and it is obvious they ain't no new user either. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:09, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


Hi there,

Can someone with knowledge of translations insert language tags on this page for me, so translations of the page can be created?

Thank! Ciell (talk) 20:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ciell Yes check.svg Done. For the future, Meta talk:Babylon might be the more appropriate venue. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Ciell (talk) 09:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
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