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New Project: WikiCPU

Hello, I just want to give to know my project WikiCPU, the idea is to create a open online worldwide plattaform of design and production of computer processors made by wiki collaboration, here is a link to the project:, Thank you --Javier José Moreno Tovar18 (talk) 19:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

New Project: Venus Project

Hello again, i just want to give to know this project called Venus Project, is the only worldwide project recognized by the united nations for a world of free access to goods and services of the planet, and I'm propossing a wiki community for it, we want also do a worldwide satellital transmission of the project, here is the link:, Thank you, I hope we support this, to make the world a totally collaborative world just like wiki technologies do, thank you again. --Javier José Moreno Tovar18 (talk) 21:03, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Help & Unblock

Me with my brother and other users from Jaffna. Here me and my brother are with in wikipedia tshirt
Me with my brother and other users from Jaffna.

I was blocked in ha.wikipedia for the reason of using multiple accounts by QuiteUnusual. He told me that //You used multiple accounts to try and get an administrator appointed on I therefore blocked those accounts for abusing editing privileges.// But I was supported my brother, Shrikarsan and we were using a same computer those days. I think QuiteUnusual has blocked me according to the IP address. But please unblock me from that Wikipedia and If you want to verify whether me and and brothers are differnt and not one person, you can see us in this images. Also you can ask the users Mayooranathan, Sivakosaran, Aathavan jaffna, Mathavan, Ravidreams in their talk pages. And you can check my profile and my brothers profile in Facebook also (if needed). So, please unblock me--Shriheeran (talk) 15:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

You were blocked based on Checkuser evidence. The correct place to ask for assistance is SRM - please put your request there. QuiteUnusual (talk) 16:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I have requested there--Shriheeran (talk) 16:27, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

New Projects:

--Javier José Moreno Tovar18 (talk) 15:15, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

@Javier José Moreno Tovar18: No se' que prefieras espan~ol o ingles pero... You have proposed way too many projects at once, with virtually no forethought. None of these will be accepted as projects. Some of these could be good user groups though. Focusing on finding other editors interested in these topics and how you can collaborate across existing projects. E.g. Foods: there are articles on Wikipedia, a cookbook on Wikibooks, you can make cooking and nutrition resources at Wikiversity, etc. There is no need for an entirely separate WMF project related to food nor is there any prospect of one getting made. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
@Justin (koavf)TCM
Hello Justin, I really hope we can do something about it, we need urgently to focus on activities, that's what those projects are about, and I'm not propossing one for each area of knowledge, just those ones that are really vital, we need urgently a world of free access to goods and services, and cultivation and foods are in the center of this for example, and we also need urgently a free production community and a free access to physics labs for example, that's why we are proppossing those groups, just the most important ones. --Javier José Moreno Tovar18 (talk) 16:51, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

en.wikipedia Teahouse

There is a discussion happening here regarding the Teahouse which may be of interest to a wider community. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 22:45, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Seems to be only enwiki related. Stryn (talk) 02:29, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Removal of page edit history (forget I asked)

How do I request the removal of pages from the edit history? --WPPilot (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

I beg your pardon but I cannot understand what you're trying to achieve or question. See Help:Page history for what the edit history of pages are for. —MarcoAurelio 18:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
@WPPilot: Usually, if content is to be deleted, there is a process for it and any admin can do it. Completely deleting the page history is reserved for Oversight/Suppressors and is rare. It's usually done for legal reasons or in cases of wanton abuse. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:28, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Marco the request was a normal one by all accords in other projects removal of history by request is done all the time. Sorry I asked. I will not waste time here again cheers...... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WPPilot (talk) 03:24, 16 March 2017‎ (UTC)
Re-pinging Marco as pinging didn't work without sig. --George Ho (talk) 04:07, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@WPPilot: I'm not sure why you're acting this way: there's no reason to be so cryptic or to have your feelings hurt. It's not common to ask that the entire history of a page be deleted. If you want that, just contact an Oversighter and provide your reason. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Acting this way, what on earth are you talking about? I asked a question and was told no after some ding dong spouted out I beg your pardon, as if I was asking for something out of line. It was clear that the question was answered and I removed it, to be belittled is not something that I enjoy nor will I tolerate, it was rude. Nothing cryptic here, I made a mistake and drafted a proposal that I would like to remove, its a waste of time and energy plus it would be only applicable to me, so I made the mistake of asking a simple question to be greeted with "I beg your pardon". If you care to direct me to a oversighter, then fine, if not great, thank you for allowing me to waste my time, here, again.....--WPPilot (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Now I know that "I beg your pardon" is offensive... —MarcoAurelio 11:57, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@WPPilot: I am sorry if I have had your feelings hurt. It was certainly not my intention whatsover. —MarcoAurelio 12:04, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@WPPilot: "after some ding dong spouted out I beg your pardon" -- Now I do beg your pardon: calling me a complete fucking idiot is absolutely unnaceptable and I demand that you retract that statement. —MarcoAurelio 13:48, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: you were being a ding dong, (ding-dong /ˈdiNGdôNG/ noun informal noun: ding-dong; plural noun: ding-dongs; noun: dingdong; plural noun: dingdongs) 1. "North American: a silly or foolish person ".) I called a spade a spade, as I thought your comment was silly, nothing more, that is a far cry from "a complete fucking idiot" but if the shoe fits, wear it.

The"" is not a reputable source, the one I found (the Oxford dictionary) is. I am not going to play into this, I am sorry that I ever drafted anything thing on this stupid site. I would rather have all of my contributions removed. I will not contribute here again. Go play your word games with someone else. Please do not contact me again, ever. Don't use the language if you don't understand what your saying or need to rely on unreliable websites quoting "Urban" terms to attack me...

También hablo español bastante bien, pero sé lo suficiente como para no usarlo cuando estoy tratando con personas en este sitio web. Demasiadas cosas pueden ser fáciles de entender mal como lo han demostrado. --WPPilot (talk) 14:09, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, well, if you wish that I pretend that you didn't mean to use ding dong in the way I quoted to you then it's your choice, but I've an age already to know what people want to tell. Don't pretend that calling me either a silly or foolish person is not a personal attack. You've been the only intentional rude here so you only have yourself to blame. And I'm going nowhere. If you wish to leave this project que lleves tanta gloria como paz nos dejas but you're made a storm out of a cup of tea, so don't blame others for that. I already apologized if my "I beg your pardon" offended you twice (three times counting this). If you really know Spanish you'll know how easy is to mess things when using literal translation (ruego que me disculpe ~ I beg your pardon, which is a very polite introduction). I'm not demanding apologies for that not for asking you to stop the profanity caused by this misunderstanding. But don't worry, I won't contact you again and I hope that you don't either to me or others on this site in the absolute unpolite way you've done so far or you'll have your access to this site disabled as well. And please, stop being disruptive hidding this thread. It'll be archived by a bot when the time comes. —MarcoAurelio 15:36, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

If you honestly think that for a moment I meant the word as anything other then silly you are only fooling yourself. Now your threatening to block me as you want the term to be the Urban version as opposed to the normal way ALL American's use the word as you found that on a webpage..... OMG. I do not use the Urban version of the English language. You are the first person to ever have contact with on this site and I was met with something, well a phrase that was inappropriate to me as the first three words from you. I tried to bring to your attention that its use was off handed and unsavory. I did not know your English was nominal till I looked at your user page. This exchange demonstrates how a single piece of sand ventures off into a mountain over nothing. You could have left it at face value but you found a site that made the assertion I intended a word that IS [A CUP CAKE COATED WITH CHOCOLATE IN EVERY STORE IN AMERICA], and turned it into something repulsive, as you found it on the web and you want to block me now over it. ahhhhhh once again OMG........--WPPilot (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't want to block you. Instead I'd really love that this whole misunderstanding be settled out for good. How shall I do, in your opinion, to achieve that? —MarcoAurelio 16:26, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Marco, WPPilot (who is declared retired from the meta) meant undoing his contributions to Grants:Learning patterns/Plan aerial photography projects. --George Ho (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@WPPilot: MarcoAurelio es un ejemplo de un Oversighter. Hay tres ma's tambien. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:12, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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Wiki 4 Coop

Hello everyone,

I come to you to invite to re-read the submission of a new partnership project between the Wikimedia movement and the Belgian NGOs. The project is titled Wiki 4 Coop and I invite you to discover its submission page on Meta-Wiki. Do not hesitate to endorse the project if you like it and even correct my English if you have a little time. A beautiful end of day for all of you, Lionel Scheepmans Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 11:33, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)

05:09, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Request to remove notices

Added header to separate from unrelated "De-Recognition of Wikimedia Hong Kong" section. --George Ho (talk) 07:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

I know that this is not the place for my request, but I don't know where to put it. I keep getting notices about new translations. I am not interested and I don't need those notices, so if someone can remove me from that list it would be much appreciated. I basically contribute to Wikipedia in Norwegian and that's it. Ulflarsen (talk) 22:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Reporting abuses

What's the best place to report abuses of the administrators of a Wikipedia in a specific language? —  Ark25  (talk) 19:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

There is no place to report them. Ruslik (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
You can discuss it here if you may, Ark25. May you specify which Wikipedia (like Czech Wikipedia) and which language? BTW, there is Requests for comment, which has subpages about other Wikipedias. --George Ho (talk) 20:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers, I think Requests for comment is a better place to report admin abuses, I see many others opened such topics there. —  Ark25  (talk) 22:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
If the specific Wikipedia has an arbitration committee you can report to them as well, they are supposed to be independent though in practice there might be some admins present.  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  12:02, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The Requests for comment/Extreme abuses at the Romanian Wikipedia is filed. I tried to find the Romanian version of ArbCom, especially from ro:Categorie:Pagini de serviciu. I could not understand the language. Nevertheless, ro:WP:ABR refers to biographical articles; ro:WP:AB/R, Romanian version of reassessing Good Articles; ro:WP:AB, Good Articles. I don't think Romanian ArbCom exists, does it? --George Ho (talk) 22:15, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Updating Tamil Wikisource count

Tamil Wikisource has reached 409,974 pages per Please update the main page of Wikisource to reflect that. Thanks.--Shriheeran (talk) 00:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikimedia : Wikipedia -- user pages

In WP I have a user page. In WM I presently do not. In WP my user name shows up blue (page exists) and in WM it is red (does not exist). While I might become a WM contributor, presently I am not.

This entry started because I want to email a WP / WM contributor to ask about a photograph. In order to email the contributor I must be logged in. I write this entry only after several fruitless searches in the help and forum sections.

This question is multi-fold --

• Can someone email a WM contributor if one only has a WP user name?
• Are there are shortcuts / techniques for linking from WM to WP?
• Are there expectations that WP users should (or should not) create a dual WM page?
• Are these questions answered elsewhere in WM and if so how would one know?


GeeBee60 (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Your account is 'global' (what we call single user login, also known as SUL) which allows you to seamlessly move between projects, and as a result, when you click on a link to this site (Meta) from English Wikipedia, you're automatically logged in. This means you're able to e-mail contributors on Meta (but as almost all contributors have the same global account that you have, you can e-mail users from English Wikipedia).
There are ways to shortcut between projects, not just from Meta to English Wikipedia or vice-versa, but to our other sister projects. Please see Help:Interwiki_linking
If you create a userpage here on Meta, it will appear on every other sister project, so you could move your English Wikipedia user page from English Wikipedia to Meta, or you can create a different userpage here. It's entirely up to you. There's no expectations either way. You're welcome to have a userpage, but equally, to not have a userpage.
There's a variety of information here on Meta, and across Wikipedia. It's sometimes difficult to find this information, but a bit of searching will usually reveal most of your information you're looking for. Google sometimes works better than the site search here. And if all else fails, you can ask, just as you did earlier. Nick (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Nick for your help / advice. Might I suggest adding Help:Interwiki_linking to the sidebar. GeeBee60 (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
@GeeBee60: worth reading Global user pages as meta is specially configured among the wikis to assist functioning of user pages (and user scripts) at all WMF wikis. To add some other links to give background, also see Single unified login; email sending depends on the setting that each user sets AND on each wiki, ie. I have it on here, though may have it off on other wikis; the dynamic list of shortcuts available are at special:interwiki and available at each wiki. To adding a link to the sidebar, umm, it is a tricky one, especially for multilanguage wikis.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:11, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thank you billinghurst sDrewth . Now I must stop following this thread (that I started); the Wiki world is a wondrous vortex and I feel adequately informed. GeeBee60 (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

No editing for 30 minutes on two days

Due to the server switch project, all of the wikis will be in read-only mode for 20 to 30 minutes on two days soon:

  • Wednesday, 19 April 2017, starting at 14:00 UTC
  • Wednesday, 3 May 2017 (two weeks later), starting at 14:00 UTC

If you are a MediaWiki hacker, then please note that the normal deployment schedule has been canceled during both of those weeks.

There is more information at Tech/Server switch 2017, including a link to the official schedule. Please leave a message on my user talk page or "ping" me if you have any questions. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF):Will this message be pushed to the local wiki? If not, I will manually push this message to my wiki community.——星耀晨曦 (talk) 09:48, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Tech/Server switch 2017 will be sent to all of the pages listed at Distribution list/Global message delivery, probably around 13 April 2017. You can add any missing pages/wikis to the distribution list, and you can help by translating (and reviewing the translations) of the message. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:43, 9 March 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

This section was archived on a request by: --George Ho (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)