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Coolest Tool Award 2021: Call for nominations
The third edition of the m:Coolest Tool Award is looking for nominations!
Tools play an essential role for the Wikimedia projects, and so do the many volunteer developers who experiment with new ideas and develop and maintain local and global solutions to support the Wikimedia communities. The Coolest Tool Award aims to recognize and celebrate the coolest tools in a variety of categories.
The awarded projects will be announced and showcased in a virtual ceremony in December. Deadline to submit nominations is October 27. More information: m:Coolest Tool Award. Thanks for your recommendations! -- 2021 Coolest Tool Academy team
- This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst sDrewth 15:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Strange stuff by one user
Why account is global locked
Also, the global lock to add a global lock across English Wikipedia. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Muhammad_Alfarezal (talk) 04:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- There ain't no global lock for your account, just two local blocks. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 15:35, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia community article for deletion
Wait I have no idea! So this w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Independent business, so bot protect page after redirect to w:Privately held company Muhammad Alfarezal (talk) 04:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- What's your concern for Meta? This is an independent decision by the enWP, no concern whatsoever for Meta. And either way: What's the problem at all? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 05:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Special:CentralAuth
Please use lock global across Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia) Muhammad Alfarezal (talk) 22:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Muhammad Alfarezal: Sorry, but I don't really understand. Can you re-interpret what you need? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done If you have requests for stewards, please put at SRG. This forum is the wrong place. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Relevance of some articles
Good afternoon, actually I am here because there are some articles that have been deleted so many times and still I don't understand. First of all, I think Wikipedia (English for example) posts things that are stupid en:XHCTMX-TDT for example, and other articles are being deleted. I want to hear opinions for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Atanes, massimiliano foschi, etc... Starting by Nicolás Atanes, I see the article has been deleted MANY times. I don't know him personally, nor I haven't met with him, but he has as relevance as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikas_(Angolan_footballer), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Bickelhaupt, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ryan_(Australian_politician) (as random selected). I think Wikipedia in all languages should tolerate more articles like this, not promotional, I mean, to post about encyclopedic people. Atanes is author on Diario16 https://diario16.com/author/nicolas-atanes-santos/, is relevant in Spain: https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2020/07/29/5f205975fc6c83cb478b4644.html https://www.diariodenavarra.es/noticias/navarra/2021/07/28/el-virus-extendio-navarra-495529-300.html https://www.rtve.es/play/audios/las-mananas-de-rne-con-inigo-alfonso/matematicas-coronavirus-salud-espana/5731358/ https://www.eitb.eus/es/television/programas/navarra-directo/videos/detalle/7004935/video-nicolas-pie-guerra-impulsar-aprendizaje-matematicas/ has been nominated for a local prize https://www.navarratelevision.es/noticia/Z01842D7D-B1D5-1977-50E0EE09CE98E0A5/La-juventud-un-valor-primordial-para-Navarra-Television organized several initiatives https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2021/07/27/radio_pamplona/1627390029_693321.html https://www.cope.es/actualidad/noticias/juegos-matematicos-ocuparan-las-calles-ciudades-espanolas-julio-20210723_1417895 and created a social movement https://www.abc.es/ciencia/abci-virus-matematico-extiende-desde-pamplona-no-deja-crecer-202107292028_noticia.html. He started in 2020 with a mediatic protest: https://www.laopiniondezamora.es/zamora/2020/01/22/pasion-numeros-2498974.html and met with senior officials https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/eusciencehubnews/item-detail.cfm?item_id=703538. I think Wikipedia goes wrong deleting such articles. I have just made a quick search and I founded more relevance than 1/3 of the articles of living people on EN:WP. Sorry. --2A0C:5A80:3201:4500:6C2D:BEAB:6234:9B37 11:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Notability criteria are the sole responsibility of the projects, it's nothing to discuss here in Meta. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 15:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Structure of the Wikimedia Foundation
Is it possible that someone from the Wikimedia Foundation makes a presentation about the structure of the Wikimedia Foundation during a session for interested Wikimedians. There are discussions about the increase in costs and income of the Wikimedia Foundation and it is not easy to understand what for departments exist at the Wikimedia Foundation and what the Employees are doing. There was a massive increase regarding the number of employed people in the last years and so a presentation could help. At Wikimedia Germany there was such a presentation about the structure of their organisation through a community forum and this was helpful for me. I also wish a regular update of the Tuning Session documents after the end of a quarter. They were helpful for me to understand what the teams are doing.--Hogü-456 (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Community Wishlist Survey 2022
The Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is now open!
This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 23 January, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 28 January and 11 February.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- How many proposals can a user make at the maximum? Haoreima (talk) 15:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: 5 each ref. — xaosflux Talk 15:25, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Talk to the Community Tech
Hello
We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 19 January (Wednesday), 18:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. This external system is not subject to the WMF Privacy Policy. Click here to join.
Agenda
- Bring drafts of your proposals and talk to to a member of the Community Tech Team about your questions on how to improve the proposal
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, and German. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
- Join online
- Meeting ID: 85804347114
- Dial by your location
We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Should there be some kind of mental health… something?
Like, over the past few months I’ve had to deal with long, hostile ANI threads, one of which got so heated I was blocked for 24 hours; a bunch of crap about anti-LGBT+ sentiment from non-English users which makes me feel unwelcome and depressed as an LGBT+ person; and some driveby jerk on my Commons talkpage basically telling me my art sucked and was useless to the project (in the politest possible way). I already have depression and anxiety and contributing to the project is extremely important to me. Editing is frequently stressful, especially to marginalized communities and people with mental health issues. I don’t really know where else to go to talk about this, but I feel like there should be somewhere to discuss this to figure out solutions to it. Dronebogus (talk) 05:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'll try to be careful on this. I get the feeling you are looking for an on wiki place to discuss this. I think that such a on wiki place might be a good idea in theory, but I do not know how to fit it into the current wiki culture. Wiki tends to be very much an open/transparent place, perhaps more accurately "a place of record", sometimes to a fault. Combined with its asynchronous communication style it might not lend itself well to such discussions as they cannot easily be private/confidential and thus people can never truly feel free to discuss. However, the Trust and Safety team has collected these resources which might help you. Note that these are a little bit more focused on certain extreme situations which you might feel do not fit your situation. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:26, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that’s a bit beyond this kind of situation, but thanks anyway. Dronebogus (talk) 14:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Also here is some person to person (amateur) advice. I'm not trained in this, so please don't put too much value in my comments. Consider consulting a mental health professional instead.
- First, I think that if editing brings you stress, in my experience it is good to timebox your engagement and to plan some sort of activity for after editing (at 21:00 PM I'm going to stop editing and clean the kitchen/go jogging). Second, be careful of taking on the entire world. Stepping into Wikimedia, but also the Internet in general exposes us to so many people, cultures, interests and problems, it can cause us to feel as if the whole world is burning and it is all personal, while in reality things generally get better compared to say 10 years ago and ppl don't even really know you.
- I suspect that contributing is an outlet for you, but it is probably coloured by your anxiety and depression just as much. I'm not comfortable with giving advise on those interactions, and again I come back to consulting a professional. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:24, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- That’s good advice. I did it for the aforementioned situations and it helped. Dronebogus (talk) 14:26, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 5
Movement Strategy and Governance News
Issue 5, January 2022Read the full newsletter
Welcome to the fifth issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News (formerly known as Universal Code of Conduct News)! This revamped newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the Movement Charter, Universal Code of Conduct, Movement Strategy Implementation grants, Board elections and other relevant MSG topics.
This Newsletter will be distributed quarterly, while more frequent Updates will also be delivered weekly or bi-weekly to subscribers. Please remember to subscribe here if you would like to receive these updates.
- Call for Feedback about the Board elections - We invite you to give your feedback on the upcoming WMF Board of Trustees election. This call for feedback went live on 10th January 2022 and will be concluded on 7th February 2022. (continue reading)
- Universal Code of Conduct Ratification - In 2021, the WMF asked communities about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct policy text. The revised draft of the enforcement guidelines should be ready for community vote in March. (continue reading)
- Movement Strategy Implementation Grants - As we continue to review several interesting proposals, we encourage and welcome more proposals and ideas that target a specific initiative from the Movement Strategy recommendations. (continue reading)
- The New Direction for the Newsletter - As the UCoC Newsletter transitions into MSG Newsletter, join the facilitation team in envisioning and deciding on the new directions for this newsletter. (continue reading)
- Diff Blogs - Check out the most recent publications about MSG on Wikimedia Diff. (continue reading)
--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 15:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections is now open
The Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections is now open and will close on 7 February 2022.
With this Call for Feedback, the Movement Strategy and Governance team is taking a different approach. This approach incorporates community feedback from 2021. Instead of leading with proposals, the Call is framed around key questions from the Board of Trustees. The key questions came from the feedback about the 2021 Board of Trustees election. The intention is to inspire collective conversation and collaborative proposal development about these key questions.
Best,
Movement Strategy and Governance--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 23:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Please note an additional question has now been added. There are also several proposals from participants to review and discuss. --SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 11:10, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Question about the Affiliates' role for the Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections
Hi All,
Thank you to everyone who participated in the Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections so far. The Movement Strategy and Governance team suggested another question was still under discussion. As of today, we announce the last key question:
How should affiliates participate in elections?
Affiliates are an important part of the Wikimedia movement. Two seats of the Board of Trustees due to be filled this year were filled in 2019 through the Affiliate-selected Board seats process. A change in the Bylaws removed the distinction between community and affiliate seats. This leaves the important question: How should affiliates be involved in the selection of new seats?
The question is broad in the sense that the answers may refer not just to the two seats mentioned, but also to other, Community- and Affiliate-selected seats. The Board is hoping to find an approach that will both engage the affiliates and give them actual agency, and also optimize the outcomes in terms of selecting people with top skills, experience, diversity, and wide community’s support.
The Board of Trustees is seeking feedback about this question especially, although not solely, from the affiliate community. Everyone is invited to share proposals and join the conversation in the Call for Feedback channels. In addition to collecting online feedback, the Movement Strategy and Governance team will organize several video calls with affiliate members to collect feedback. These calls will be at different times and include Trustees.
Due to the late addition of this third question, the Call will be extended until 16 February.
Best, Movement Strategy and Governance.--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 11:10, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Desktop Improvements update and Office Hours invitation
Hello. I wanted to give you an update about the Desktop Improvements project, which the Wikimedia Foundation Web team has been working on for the past few years.
The goals of the project are to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. The project consists of a series of feature improvements which make it easier to read and learn, navigate within the page, search, switch between languages, use article tabs and the user menu, and more.
The improvements are already visible by default for readers and editors on 24 wikis, including Wikipedias in French, Portuguese, and Persian.
The changes apply to the Vector skin only. Monobook or Timeless users are not affected.
Features deployed since our last update
- User menu - focused on making the navigation more intuitive by visually highlighting the structure of user links and their purpose.
- Sticky header - focused on allowing access to important functionality (logging in/out, history, talk pages, etc.) without requiring people to scroll to the top of the page.
For a full list of the features the project includes, please visit our project page. We also invite you to our Updates page.
How to enable the improvements
- It is possible to opt-in individually in the appearance tab within the preferences by unchecking the "Use Legacy Vector" box. (It has to be empty.) Also, it is possible to opt-in on all wikis using the global preferences.
- If you think this would be good as a default for all readers and editors of this wiki, feel free to start a conversation with the community and contact me.
- On wikis where the changes are visible by default for all, logged-in users can always opt-out to the Legacy Vector. There is an easily accessible link in the sidebar of the new Vector.
Learn more and join our events
If you would like to follow the progress of our project, you can subscribe to our newsletter.
You can read the pages of the project, check our FAQ, write on the project talk page, and join an online meeting with us (27 January (Thursday), 15:00 UTC).
How to join our online meeting
- Join online
- Meeting ID: 89205402895
- Dial by your location
Thank you!!
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team, SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Without consensus
Two people (2) started an intervention on all wikipedias globally, under the name Climate change portal/climate denial review . Is permissible to begin that large scale projects without consensus of the community? Who has authority to judge about right and wrong in wikipedias articles other than the community? ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη from Greek wikipedia (talk) 02:07, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη: The review project has no particular authority over anything, it's just a bunch of volunteers who decided to look over articles in various languages, and put up a page on Meta to help keep their activity organized. The local community maintains authority over the articles to the same extent as before. An informal volunteer effort does not require advance consensus, I think. --Yair rand (talk) 07:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη: Seems within scope, fitting in within "global community site for the Wikimedia Foundation's projects and related projects, from coordination and documentation to planning and analysis" and Meta:Inclusion policy. There has never been the need to create a consensus to create a page. If you think that the page is out of scope then please use Meta:Deletion requests. If you think that the page's scope needs altering then please use Talk:Climate change portal/climate denial review. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη: Seems within scope, fitting in within "global community site for the Wikimedia Foundation's projects and related projects, from coordination and documentation to planning and analysis" and Meta:Inclusion policy. There has never been the need to create a consensus to create a page. If you think that the page is out of scope then please use Meta:Deletion requests. If you think that the page's scope needs altering then please use Talk:Climate change portal/climate denial review. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Autowikibrowser permission
I was about to ask to the local community for consent about the creation of an autowikiborser local policy. I think that the use of the software should be reserved only for enabled users even without the bot flag. Is it possible to remove the possibility of using the autowikibrowser for all non-authorized users? How? If so, who would grant and revoke the permissions?--Gat lombard (talk) 08:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gat lombard: we already require AWB registration here on the meta-wiki; we don't really need a "policy" for it. Users that need access can request it at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat. — xaosflux Talk 14:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gat lombard: Hi. If you want to restrict who can use AWB on your community you'll need to create two pages in JSON format, one for the configuration, and the second one would be a check page of users allowed to use the tool. Please let me know if you need some help. I can set those up for you if you'd like. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:33, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @MarcoAurelio: Thanks, then I'll call you in two weeks when the new policy is approved--Gat lombard (talk) 17:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- @MarcoAurelio: The rule is approved, could you implement it on the Lombard wiktionary? --Gat lombard (talk) 15:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gat lombard: is this for lmowikt? wikt:lmo:Project:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON and wikt:lmo:Project:AutoWikiBrowser/Config are the two pages that need to be created in JSON model. — xaosflux Talk 16:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Yes --Gat lombard (talk) 16:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ciao @Gat lombard: I've moved the pages created by @Xaosflux to their final destinations. It should all be done. I'd personally protect them at least to autoconfirmed level so no-one can simply add himself to the page directly and defeat the purpose of the checkpage, but it's up to lmo.wiktionary. Please let me know if we can be of any further assistance. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:38, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @MarcoAurelio: I would limit it to administrators only, as the purpose of this page is to block from possible abuse and the need of the autowikibrowser is limited just to very few users--Gat lombard (talk) 19:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Xaosflux I removed your account from those authorized to Autowikibrowser but I left your bot instead according to local policy. In any case, if you want to request it immediately for your account, you can request it. If you are a global administrator you can re-add yourself. Thanks for your work --Gat lombard (talk) 20:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gat lombard: is this for lmowikt? wikt:lmo:Project:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON and wikt:lmo:Project:AutoWikiBrowser/Config are the two pages that need to be created in JSON model. — xaosflux Talk 16:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @MarcoAurelio: The rule is approved, could you implement it on the Lombard wiktionary? --Gat lombard (talk) 15:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @MarcoAurelio: Thanks, then I'll call you in two weeks when the new policy is approved--Gat lombard (talk) 17:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gat lombard: Hi. If you want to restrict who can use AWB on your community you'll need to create two pages in JSON format, one for the configuration, and the second one would be a check page of users allowed to use the tool. Please let me know if you need some help. I can set those up for you if you'd like. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:33, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- I created shells at wikt:lmo:Utent:Xaosflux/sandbox/Config.json and wikt:lmo:Utent:Xaosflux/sandbox/CheckPageJSON.json that you can just move to the new pages (don't include the .json part of the name on the new page). (I'm not autoconfirmed on that project yet). At first you may want to just watch the pages, and not protect them - that is what some smaller projects do - if you protect them you will need to have your privledged users do any future updates. Feel free to remove my name from the list of course, I just put it in as a palceholder! — xaosflux Talk 17:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Objection for https: //hr2. wiki/wiki/Serbo-Croatian
There no Serbo-Croatian language ! Only Croatian laguage.
Objection for https: //hr2. wiki/wiki/Serbo-Croatian
There is no Serbo-Croatian language.!!!! Only Croatian language.
- (a) That site has malware warnings, so I broke the links above, (b) it is not a WMF hosted site, so there is nothing we can do about it here. — xaosflux Talk 16:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Announcing the 2022 Ombuds Commission
Hello, everyone.
I'm writing with information about the Ombuds Commission (OC), the small group of volunteers who investigate complaints about violations of the privacy policy, and in particular concerning the use of CheckUser and Oversight tools, on any Wikimedia project for the Board of Trustees. I apologize for the length of the announcement. :)
The application period for new commissioners for 2022 recently closed. The Wikimedia Foundation is extremely grateful to the many experienced and insightful volunteers who offered to assist with this work.
This year’s OC will consist of eight members, with a two-member advisory team who will guide the new commission and also, if necessary, fill in in the event that the OC is unable to act due to incapacity or recusal.
I am pleased to announce the composition of the 2022 OC:
Regular members
Érico has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2010. He edits primarily on Portuguese Wikipedia, where he is a bureaucrat, checkuser, and administrator, and Commons, where he is an administrator. He has, in the past, also served as an oversighter and a global sysop. He has created about 1,700 new articles and has made over 270,000 edits in several projects. Érico can communicate in Portuguese and English. 2022 is Érico's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Scott Thomson, user:Faendalimas, has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2006. Based in Brazil, he is a taxonomist and evolutionary biologist and his main editing interest is reptiles and amphibians. He is most active on WikiSpecies, where he is a bureaucrat, Checkuser, and administrator. Faendalimas speaks Portuguese and English. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
Carlos, currently editing as user:Galahad, has been contributing to Wikimedia Projects since 2009. He is a member of Wikimedia Venezuela and a founding member of Wikimedia Small Projects User Group. He primarily contributes to Spanish-language projects including Spanish Wikipedia and Spanish Wikivoyage. He has been an administrator and bureaucrat of Spanish Wikivoyage since 2013. He speaks Spanish and English. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2019.
Infinite0694 has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2011. She edits primarily on Japanese Wikipedia, where she is a bureaucrat, administrator, Oversighter, and Checkuser, as well as on Meta, where she is an administrator. Infinite0694 speaks Japanese, English, and German. This is Infinite0694's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Mykola7 has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2018. He is primarily active on Ukranian Wikipedia, where he is an administrator and Checkuser. He speaks Ukranian, Russian, and English. This is Mykola7's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Olugold has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2020. She is a librarian and a member of the Igbo Wikimedia User Group. She edits primarily on English Wikipedia, Wikidata, and Igbo Wikipedia. She speaks English, Hausa, Igbo, and Nigerian Pidgin English. This is Olugold's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Udehb has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2018. He edits primarily on Wikidata and is also active in the movement, including organizing Wikidata Justice Nigeria. He is a member of the Igbo Wikimedians User Group and serves as the IG-WIKIDATA-HUB coordinator, of which he is the founder. Udehb speaks Igbo and English. 2022 is Udehb's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Zabe has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2018. They primarily edit Wikidata and Mediawiki, where they are an administrator. In addition, Zabe works on the Mediawiki software. Zabe speaks German and English. 2022 is Zabe's first year on the Ombuds Commission.
Advisory members
Ameisenigel has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2015. He is primarily active on German Wikipedia, where he serves as an Arbitrator, and on Wikidata, where he is an administrator. He is also active as a translation admin in several projects. Ameisenigel speaks German and English. He has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
JJMC89 has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2015. He is primarily active on the English Wikipedia, where he has more than 300,000 edits and is an administrator and bot operator, and Commons. He also serves as a tool administrator on UTRS. He speaks English. He has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
Their willingness to remain, to bring their familiarity with processes and their experience to the new arrivals, is greatly appreciated!
Please join me in thanking the following volunteers who are leaving OC, who have given substantially of their time to serve the commission:
Departing members
Acagastya has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2014, and is primarily active on English Wikinews serving as an administrator and has been accredited reporter since 2017. Agastya is also active on Commons, and speaks English, Hindi and Gujarati. Acagastya has been a member of the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
AGK has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2008. He is primarily active on English Wikipedia, where he is an administrator, Checkuser, and Oversighter and has served as an Arbitrator. AGK has been a member of the Ombuds Commission since 2020.
Ajraddatz has been an active user on Wikimedia since 2010, and has served in various roles of community trust in that time, including as a Wikidata Oversighter since 2013, a steward between 2014 and 2020, and a Meta CheckUser since 2015.
Emufarmers has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2005. He is a Metapedian who primarily edits the English Wikipedia; he is also a bureaucrat and sysop on MediaWiki.org, and has provided software support to many third-party, non-Wikimedia wikis over the years. He has served as an VRTS administrator since 2015. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2019.
Moheen Reeyad, user:Moheen, has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2010. He is active on Commons, Bengali Wikipedia, Wikidata, and English Wikipedia and is an administrator on Commons and Bengali Wikipedia. He is currently a Board member of Wikimedia Bangladesh and lives in Chattogram. Moheen speaks Bengali and English. He has served as an OC member since 2021.
MrJaroslavik has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2017. He is primarily active on Czech Wikipedia and Meta. MrJaroslavik speaks Czech and English. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
Ivan has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2006. He is primarily active on Spanish Wikipedia and Spanish Wikinews and as an administrator on both of those projects. He helped found Wikimedia Mexico in 2011 and was the Wikimania 2015 Chief Coordinator. He has participated in a number of movement committees, including Grant Advisory Committee. He speaks English, Portuguese, and Spanish. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.
Superpes15 has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2010. He is primarily active on Italian Wikipedia and are a member of the Small Wiki Monitoring Team. He is an administrator on Italian Wikipedia and serves as a global renamer. He speaks Italian and English. He has been an OC member since 2021.
Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Initiative to end anti-LGBT+ content on Wikimedia
As discussed at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_Forum#Bigoted_content_on_Wikipedias_you_don%E2%80%99t_speak_the_language_of, users of non-English projects are getting away with spreading anti-LGBT+ rhetoric in direct opposition to both Wikimedia’s UCOC and LGBT+ inclusivity initiative. I propose the creation of a project similar to Climate change portal/climate denial review to work on systematically removing this inappropriate and bigoted content. Dronebogus (talk) 10:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think there are different point of views to the topic and after my understanding it is allowed that people say what they mean as long as it is not unfriedly and it hurts other people. After my understanding a encyclopedia article should offer a neutral persceptive and tell what different sources write about the topic. If a user has a infobox with a message about the own view to LGBT+ on the user page this is from my point of view not a problem. Maybe you can try to start such a project by talking to other members of the LGBT+ User Group. I am interested in understanding better what reasons are there that lead to anti-LGBT+ rhetoric.--Hogü-456 (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Hogü-456: Someone stating they view LGBT+ people as in some way “less than” heterosexual cisgender people is inherently unfriendly and hurtful, but in any case I’m more concerned about non-English articles potentially featuring inaccurate or biased negative coverage of LGBT+M particularly in regions with strong anti-LGBT sentiment like Eastern Europe and Central Asia. Dronebogus (talk) 19:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- how a person may live their private life is their choice & of no concern to me. when i come to work i am focused on the job that's all that matters. at the end of the day i go home, shut the door or watch a movie on T.V. for more information on the business of human secrets & privacy see: electronic privacy information center EPIC. in the end we are all partners working for the same company. i have found that gossip is a waste of time which is unrelated to work. Davidche123 (talk) 02:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Everyone is allowed to their own views as long as it doesn't affect the edits. Żyrafał (talk) 16:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Such a coordinating initiative I think could be helpful in dealing with this problem.The fact that homophobia is a problem and is unacceptable in any project is due to Universal_Code_of_Conduct#3.1_–_Harassment . Everyone is allowed to have their own views, beliefs etc. but they must not express them in a way that constitutes harassment, using insults, stereotypes or attacks based on personal characteristic "like intelligence, appearance, ethnicity, race, religion (or lack thereof), culture, caste, sexual orientation, gender, sex, disability, age, nationality, political affiliation, or other characteristics." Grudzio240 (talk) 18:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Oppose The climate denial case is about whether or not there is a global warming. This case can be proved scientifically with a high degree of certainity. However, the legal system is not a science like physics and we cannot prove gay marriages should be equal to hetero ones. This is a philosophical issue. And it may turn out that there is no right answer.
- Not always is there a right or wrong world view. It may just be different than others'. The world view of a user should be their private matter. And they should be able to write on any topic they want or on no topic at all (equality - otherwise it's going to be like censorship). Where is the borderline between accepted and unaccepted behavior? Is "I'm against selling alcohol to minors" okay? Or "I'm against advertising drugs"? Wikimedia community is a global one. This means that users may come from a completely different places where there are different traditions and world views common. And it's impossible to guarantee that our opinions will not clash. They will but we don't have to remember about it when talking to others.
- Let's take the marriage: in the Western culture these are pairs of two people and adding anyone more is usually considered cheating (at least traditionally). On the other hand, there are cultures like Arabic where it's perfectly okay to have two or more wifes. Everyone of us have certain opinions. They do not have to be universally nice. I can be against my girlfriend sleeping with one more 'best friend' but that doesn't mean I won't talk to a person who is willing to live in such a complex relation.
- This particular user states he is against gay marriage. This doesn't mean he believes LGBT+ people are worse than others (maybe he does so, but that's not written there). Marriage is an construct of a civil law and not a treat of Wikimedia user. Moreover, this case is very boolean: you can be for or against LGBT marriages (not diving into reasons here, but there are certainly for both options). If you are forbidden to say "i'm against" but you may say "i'm for" (hey, inclusivity), that's censorship.
- Suppose I wrote "Eating meat should be forbidden". I do not disapprove of people who eat meat but I do say that they should not do so. Is this considered to be vegetarian terrorism and against inclusivity of meat-eaters?
- We should not hurt people by saying something but also we cannot hurt people by preventing them to be themselves. Msz2001 (talk) 18:45, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- While your argument is fair on the surface, I think it’s broadly scientific accepted that sexual orientation and gender identity are not behaviors (like alcohol selling or eating meat) but rather innate traits. So if joe wikipedian says gay people can’t marry, he isn’t really saying he’s opposed to the action itself but saying that either gay people can stop being gay so they can get a straight marriage (which is scientifically false) or that gay people exist but don’t deserve to marry (which is clearly discriminatory). Dronebogus (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree with the conclusions you make. Infoboxes expressing opposition to gay marriage rights are just as inappropriate as other hypotheticals supporting discrimination userbox texes:
- "This user opposes interracial marriage the adoption of children by such couples." - racism , "This user opposes voting rights for women." - Sexism , "This user supports whites-only beaches" - racism etc. Grudzio240 (talk) 22:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- I support a policy of Zero Censorship. My view is that half of us are sub-par in some aspects and above par in other aspects. Regardless, all points of view should be acknowledged if not acceded to.
- I do contend that an editorial standard be maintained.
- That is; for any discrete point of view; one entry/page/document becomes established with relevant links to associated pages. Such a document to which any who find themselves in support, may be contributed to upon passing editorial review of a moderator aligned with that point of view.
- Contribution to the aligned document is deemed acceptable considering over-arching standards of community civility and a basic standard of grammatical composition.
- Thereby contributing but not creating another document with a congruent point of view; that is, in no sense should this become a plebiscite or tally of supporters for any point of view, merely the exploration of all supported points of view regardless of the number of those in support.
- I recognize that there will be a need for some point-of-view specific overhead regarding processor time, mental labor and moderator management of each diverging point of view and an over-all supervision of things like composition and translation.
- I do not agree that any point of view be discarded regardless of the degree to which it is benighted, unreasoned, neurotic, or potentially sociopathic.
- The more each of us reads the better each one becomes at recognizing the product ( wheat ) from the dross ( chaff ). HHabilisPanoptes (talk) 04:45, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- we cannot hurt people by preventing them to be themselves You can, actually. Vexations (talk) 16:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not that such userboxes or user statements should be ignored, but is there any evidence this is affecting article content? DGG (talk) 03:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- No but they create a hostile environment for the user groups they disparage. Dronebogus (talk) 19:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wouldn't users still be able to express same text on their user page through text even if userboxes are removed? C933103 (talk) 10:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- No but they create a hostile environment for the user groups they disparage. Dronebogus (talk) 19:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Strong oppose seriously it’s just a userbox on a user page. Don’t you folks have better things to do in life? For example worrying about the quality of content pages. -📜GIFNK📖DLM💻MMXX🏰 (TALK🎙 | CONTRIBS) 11:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Support Even though these are just userboxes, I strongly support the initiative. This is a definitely a small start, but at least it's something. —CrafterNova [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 05:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)- Support - Creating non-toxic environments is crucial to work, be that online or IRL and, theoretically speaking, the more we have global initiatives like this, the better. As it has been expressed above, (using an extreme slippery slope to get to the point fast), if we are to agree on allowing that, then in the near future we may be forced to also agree on things like "This user thinks slavery is profitable and should be returned", "This user is pro animal torture", etc. The only gray part I find on this (which is why I'm supporting instead of strong supporting) is that this matter is also gray in the global aspect when it comes to the law part. Abortion matters and capital punishments are also similar subjects which we generally still consider as normal subjects which someone can be pro or against them. - Klein Muçi (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
