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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello, Kbrown (WMF). Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

-- Meta-Wiki Welcome (talk) 15:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Foundation pages[edit]

It seems inconsistent with the practice of other WMF Community Advocacy employees that wmf:User:Kbrown_(WMF) is a dead page and there's no wiklink for you at wmf:Staff_and_contractors. NE Ent (talk) 15:55, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Hm, yeah, I'm not sure how WMF wiki slipped through the cracks back when I created my userpage everywhere else. I've populated that now. The Staff and Contractors template's content is curated by, and editing there is restricted to, HR staff - it looks like ALantz (WMF) would be the person to add a link for me there (once everyone is back from the holiday weekend, at least!). Thanks for the heads-up about this, NE Ent. Rather embarrassing to have my most "official" userpage be the one I forgot to create! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 02:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)


Hi Kbrown,

On the NL wikipedia a banner is appearing with a sentence no Dutchman or woman wil understand. Apperently it came from CNBanner:Strategy2016_A_Desktop-Strategy2016Text2/nl. The first version appears to be made by you. User:Natuur12 found the location of the text and changed it in a version one could understand. However, the old version still appears on NL wikipedia. Is there some update required I am not aware of? Could you please help? Thank you very much!

In addition, if you need any translations in Dutch in the future for a similar short banner text you might contact me on my nl user page. I will be very happy to assist. Ellywa (talk) 09:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ellywa: Thank you for letting me know about this (and for offering to help in the future...I will remember that and almost certainly be calling on you again!)! I have changed the state of the new translation (I think) to "published", which I hope will fix this. Please let me know if that hasn't fixed the issue for you (you might need to purge your cache to see it), and I will call in help from someone more experienced with the translation workflow, since I am still learning it as I go. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 14:45, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Language redirection[edit]

Hi! "Special:MyLanguage" has already provided redirection to translation in user language (if these pages is exists). Your edit is redundant, please revert it. And this also.--Kaganer (talk) 08:49, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm now saw this topic. This should be feature request, IMHO.--Kaganer (talk) 09:43, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Re:Thank you for your translation help![edit]

Thank you for your thanks! :) --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

I've just received your translation star and I'm happy to know that my contributions help people. See you, --Gato Preto (talk) 16:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


right after me. I cannot continue the survey anymore, never occured to me before.

It is disapponting, but in a funny way :D Not sure if I was lucky to say something or unlucky.--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: Oh dear, I assure you that wasn't on purpose! I don't want to cut anyone off mid-thought, so please go ahead and finish adding your opinions if you want; we probably won't be gathering the final information from the pages for a few more hours. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 23:41, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Sure I can? Thanks a lot!quite sure it wasn't, and if it were, it's just the rule--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

A point of view about election of stewards[edit]

Hi Kbrown,

I would just like to point a very abnormal point about the rights to be eligible for selecting stewards here after so i checked up conditions and found that we need to have 600 editions to be accepted !!!

I wounder how many people would do it on perpers to vandalize useful corect articles or add only one full stop or apostroph to exceed these suposed 600 editions you really think how it can be disapointing to compage 600 rubish editions to one complete article or one entire publication what about if the conditions will be about the kilobytes added or the number of illustrations uploaded ?

Cheers --Rami75013 (talk) 04:49, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rami75013. The current Steward election standards were chosen by the community, modeled after the criteria that were used at the time to elect members of the WMF Board of Trustees. So as best I can tell, if you want to change those requirements for Stewardship, you would need to organize a consensus to do so within the community (probably with a Request for Comment on Talk:Stewards or Talk:Stewards/Elections). Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 17:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Template:2016 Strategy sidebar translation issue[edit]

Hello !

There is a problem in translation markups in Template:2016 Strategy sidebar page. Indeed, the messages 21 and 22 do not include end "]]". So when we try to translate them, the tools indicates that two "]" are needed so it considers the translation as obsolete (so it displays English text instead). Can you resolve that, please ? --Pols12 (talk) 10:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Pols12, fixed. --Kaganer (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Pols12, Kaganer: thank you both! Sorry I wasn't able to get to this more quickly. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 14:53, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: "comms"[edit]

Hi, what does comms mean in the edit summary? Nemo 05:14, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

@Nemo bis: It's an abbreviation of "Communications" that we sometimes use at the WMF when we don't feel like writing out "Communications Department." You'll probably notice a lot of abbreviations like that in my edit summaries if you look through them - I'm a lazy typer! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:32, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out with WRC Templates![edit]

Template Ninja Barnstar.png

Hi Karen,
Pine gave this barnstar to me a little while ago, and since we share this passion for templates and you are so talented figuring them out, I wanted to share this with you too. Face-smile.svg
Thank you for taking the time to walk me through this template. Hugs, María (WMF) (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Annual plan[edit]

Hi Karen, I believe your name should have been featured prominently in all communications re: the WMF annual plan, given how much work you put into it. So, thank you! I also have some feedback about your translation script, but those are for another time :) TTYS --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Aw, thank you Elitre (WMF)! I'm just happy the whole process went smoothly enough that we can look back at it now and be pleased! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Training modules[edit]

Please see here. It appears that you scheduled the close of consultation ("15 September: Preparatory consultation period ends") before anyone was really aware that consultation had begun. Would you please consider keeping the dialog open for another 2 to 3 weeks, given that your WMF blog only announced this campaign today? - Thekohser (talk) 13:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Karen, please, help to remove crap site "Janevistan" ( See Jimbo Wales Talk Page[edit]

Dear Karen, there is something of potential interest to WMF [1]. Please, help to remove crap site "Janevistan" on Thanks! 09:29, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello anonymous editor. I'm afraid that I cannot remove content from projects in the way you are asking - the Wikimedia Foundation does not create or administrate content on the various Wikimedia projects, and in almost all cases we must leave those tasks to be done by the volunteer communities that make up our projects. However, almost anyone visiting the site can edit or add to most pages, unless that person has been banned or blocked from the project. So in most cases, if you believe that content could be improved or needs to be removed, we suggest that you to address yourself via the local project's processes.
In this case, addressing the issue yourself would involve opening a discussion on the project hosting the page you believe is a problem. On sh.wikipedia, it looks like that would probably be either sh:Wikipedia:Pijaca-Пијаца, for a general policy discussion (for instance, if you wished to convince the community that searches of mainspace should not give results that include redirects to userspace), or sh:Wikipedia:Članci za brisanje, to request deletion of the specific page (if you believe that it violates policies that the project already has in place).
If you believe that a project is incapable of handling a serious issue, there is also the option of requesting help from the community here on Meta. It looks like another user has done that recently in two places to ask for help about the page you're talking about. You may wish to join those discussions.
I hope this information helps! Kbrown (WMF) (talk)

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey[edit]

  1. This survey is primarily meant to get feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's current work, not long-term strategy.
  2. Legal stuff: No purchase necessary. Must be the age of majority to participate. Sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation located at 149 New Montgomery, San Francisco, CA, USA, 94105. Ends January 31, 2017. Void where prohibited. Click here for contest rules.


You have done a great job Tyreese David Samuels (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Flooder right since Feb.[edit]

Hi. I see that you assigned yourself the flood right in February. I am guessing that it is still there as an oversight, though it is a long period to have the right and I would hope that you would now be able to unbit that right. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:17, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you billinghurst - you're right, taking it back off my account just slipped my mind at the time. I've removed it now. I apologize for forgetting, and thank you so much for the reminder! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 11:05, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Thx. The new ability to put an expiry time will work well with this right.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:14, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Minassian Media, Inc.[edit]

Hi Karen, you asked me not to add a red-link to the unknown media company that the WMF paid $436K to in 2015-2016 because the document was going to be headed to the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee) and the Board of Trustees. Since Craig Minassian is the CCO of the Clinton Foundation, his company seems like an odd choice to do PR work. Since you've worked on the page in question, I wondered if you could direct me to the right interlocutor for the question. Is it GVarnum-WMF who is most likely to be able to respond to questions about the WMF staff training apparently undertaken by the consultant?

From the 2nd quarter 2014-2015 review, their responsibilities included: "Develop and execute first media training module for c-level, director, managers" (source)

Thank you very much for your help! SashiRolls (talk) 11:25, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@SashiRolls: In general, you'd definitely want to ask questions about the Communication team's work directly to them, and Greg is a possible first-line for that. However, in this case, you needn't go through another set of pings, because I have already flagged your question on the Annual Plan talk page to the Comms team for their attention; I imagine they will be getting back to you there at some point in the near future. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 12:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. Sorry for the n00b question, but to whom is that flag visible? Is it a transparent flag that anyone can raise / see? I saw in the Minassian report that "transparency" was one of the WMF's chosen keywords. I mean well, even if I'm bumbling about. SashiRolls (talk) 15:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, the pings you included in your initial post sent a notification to each person you pinged, and those pings are visible to anyone who wants to look at the page, since you used template:u (also known as the "ping" template). When I say I "flagged" something as well, it's not a formal notification or a big internal announcement or anything; I literally just sent an email to Heather (who leads the Comms team for AP communication purposes) drawing her attention to the fact that you had pinged her onwiki, since not all staff check all wikis every day (or even every week) and she may not otherwise have noticed notice an onwiki notification quickly. Me drawing her attention to it in that way may not even have been necessary in this case; I just don't know how often Heather checks in on that page and wanted to be sure she did see your question. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 16:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


I am a board-approved potato, please do not revert me. Thanks in advance, The Quixotic Potato (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Mark for translation pls - Cycle 3 with timetable[edit]

Hi, could you mark this version for translation please? Very nice to have the timeline in other languages as well. Thank you ----Omotecho (talk) 16:33, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@Omotecho: I've now done so - thank you for reminding me that I'd missed that step! It might take a few minutes for the template view to update in each language's version of the Cycle 3 page, but once that happens they should be up to date. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 6 August 2017 (UTC)


Hello. I can't see any navbar in those pages (except for the first page, the intro) :

I only see a red link. Makes it hard to navigate within the report. My interface is in English.



Access to nonpublic information policy/Noticeboard[edit]

Hi Karen. I noticed that you added a user to the list here. According to the information on the page you're not authorized to do so. If the information on the page is outdated it should be updated. -- Tegel (Talk) 18:15, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Tegel: Thanks for noticing this! I'm new to this workflow and neither James nor I noticed that I wasn't in the list. James has updated it here. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 19:11, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Access to non public information.[edit]

Hi, I signed the access to non public information documents as stated in the steps to do so, however , my name does not show up on the list.Possiby. I could have done it wrong but you could help.Thanks Bingobro (Meta-Chat) 10:30, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

@Bingobro: Hi! Your signature was fine, it's just that the Phabricator system doesn't automatically affect the Meta page; someone from my team has to go through every week or so and manually update the Meta page based on the latest Phab logs. You can see here where I added you to the list this morning (if you're wondering why your line looks different, that's because it's a two-step process - a community member will come along before too long to incorporate that diff into the log entry). At any rate, you're good to go from your perspective; the rest is just paperwork! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 15:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I'd be very grateful if my WMF account (user:SGrabarczuk (WMF)) was unblocked. I can't do anything, because one can't even log in when account is blocked globally. Ping @Jalexander-WMF: as well. Tar Lócesilion (queta) 10:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tar, I'm sorry for not getting back to you earlier! I will look into this and let you know when things are sorted on this end. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Tar Lócesilion: and...done, you should be able to log in and use the account now. Sorry for the delay in getting you set up! Please let me know if you have any issues using the account now (this is actually the first time I've ever un-locked someone!) :) Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:25, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Privacy policy – marking for translation[edit]

Hi! Could you please mark this change for translation? The notice still shows up in translations. (BTW, I think the whole #switch can be removed – as far as I understand, the non-empty (default) case would work only if Privacy policy itself would be transcluded somewhere. It isn’t.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tacsipacsi! I forgot to reply to this a few days ago when I marked it, so a slightly-late thank you for spotting that it hadn't been sent out for translation! I'm not going to mess with the switch statement if it's working as it is, since I'm not that confident in my advanced template skills. Please do let me know if you see any other issues in my stuff, though. Thanks! Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 13:53, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
No problem, I’ve already noticed it thanks to FuzzyBot updating the Hungarian translation page. The switch may cause the blank line below the other languages banner, but it’s not a big issue, it’s OK to leave it as it is. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:54, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


RadiX 02:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Policy Office Actions[edit]

Hi Kbrown, you changed the page Office actions by adding a number of policies on 19th February. Could you please tell me who decided on these new policies? Is there any document that could give information about these policies, their regulations and how they were established? --Mautpreller (talk) 11:22, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Kbrown. As a long-time sysop in the German Wikipedia, I'd be interested to become informed about the making of such substantial policy changes, too.
BTW: It's always preferrable that the left hand knows what the right hand intends - and even better, if those informations are delivered before facts or new rules are established. --Wahrerwattwurm (talk) 21:56, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Kbrown, I would like to know more about these shortly added new policies too. To block someone only in f.e. de-wikipedia who's accounts are blocked infinite there anyway?[2] Like user:Wahrerwattwurm I am a long-time sysop in the German Wikipedia. Best, --Felistoria (talk) 22:43, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Kbrown, I share the considerations brought up above. Additionally, I am wondering why the WMF felt it might be necessary to override the local sysops' actions, who alreay had dealt with the issue. All known accounts of the user had been blocked infinitely and the user himself has not announced or shown any intention to circumvent the blocks (at least to the public). So, actually, why the WMF was meddling into the local administration in this case – the case, indeed, was closed for about two months already. Thanks and greetings. --Matthiasb (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
I've asked about this on the talk page of Office actions, it seems to be the better place for such discussions, as this here is just a personal talk page. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 08:15, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Maybe someone of the Trust & Safety Team could give us a hint, where would be the right place to discuss the subject? Obviously there is a need for discussion about the policy changes and their simultaneous applications in the German Wikipedia, that is addressed by different people on different ways (mails, meta forum, project talkpage, personal talkpage), but yet seem to have caught no attention. Greetings --Magiers (talk) 09:42, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi all. I understand your interest. Regarding the question about the changes to the Office Actions policy, which I implemented on-wiki on February 19 - this was one outcome of the Improving Trust and Safety program laid out in the Foundation’s Annual Plan effective July 1 2018. It covers Foundation policies and was worked on by our team as a group effort for an extended period of time and signed off on by management, thus my changes to the policy page. I do understand that the fact that our team took action on German Wikipedia shortly after the policy changed is causing confusion in the local community. However I was not personally involved in the Janneman/ Edith Wahr/ Judith Wahr case, so I can not give you any answers concerning that case, myself. The team has left a message with information related to that case on the talkpage of Der Kurier that I hope will be helpful to you. Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Refining the draft[edit]

Hello Karen! I've added the anchor to link directly to the Primary office actions section (diff). Please review or revert, as appropriate. Thank you. — Aron M (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2019 (UTC)