Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Admins and patrollers/Allow viewing of edit filter logs for IP ranges
Allow viewing of edit filter logs for IP ranges
- Problem: Administrators doing anti-vandal work on (at least) the English Wikipedia are increasingly blocking the /64 range when faced with vandalism from IPv6 addresses, reflecting the practice of many ISPs of assigning those ranges to a single user, as long as it can be found that this is the case for the /64 range in question. But while it is also common to review edit filter logs for an IP address in the course of assessing the severity of the vandalism or disruption (most importantly, whether the user has been warned by the filter that they are risking a block should they continue), the filter logs can only be reviewed for a single IP at a time. This makes it difficult to determine whether a /64 rangeblock, or even any block, would be warranted for a particular vandal for whom only the edit filter logs are available
- Proposed solution: Make it possible to view edits on the /64 range for any IPv6 address whose edits are caught by an edit filter. Or at least give filter creators the option of allowing that (I can see that there might be situations where you might not want anybody doing that, or, at least, not just any admin).
- Who would benefit: Admins who could more efficiently and effectively prevent damage to the project, and editors who could contribute more productively without having to revert vandals or, especially, the LTAs that the filters are primarily meant to deter and warn about.
- More comments: Possibly this could, maybe in the future, be applied to the /24–/30 ranges on IPv4 addresses if it is considered necessary. Maybe we should also allow the option of being able to see the relevant ranges with a link from the Contributions page (similar to how the basic reporting template for WP:AIV now displays a link to the /64 for any IPv6 reported to the page) as well; currently one must manually enter the range value desired in the browser's URL window after the IP address. But that might make a better separate proposal.
- Phabricator tickets: phab:T256823
- Proposer: Daniel Case (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
Currently, it is possible to search for ranges only on Special:Contributions. There are even more views that would benefit from such a feature: Special:Log (phab:T146628, phab:T188690), Special:DeletedContributions, Special:AbuseFilter/test (phab:T257420). Maybe a way to make it work for any similar view could also be made.
Yet, there is the ongoing IP masking initiative that will probably soon change patterns of anti-vandalism efforts regarding IP's. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 16:44, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Admins will, I understand, still have the ability to see IPs. And won't they be assigned unique on-wiki identifiers à la vanished users? They could still be searched that way by patrolling users? Daniel Case (talk) 03:21, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think they will. But I'm not sure either what queries will be possible (reformulating your second question). --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:54, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Voting
- Support — xaosflux Talk 18:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support HouseBlaster (talk) 20:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support — Jules* talk 20:39, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I've found finding individual edit filter logs for each and every IP used in an IP range tedious and cumbersome. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 22:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support — LD (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 00:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Dreamy Jazz talk to me | enwiki 02:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support * Pppery * it has begun 03:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Lt2818 (talk) 03:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Yes please. Spencer (talk) 04:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Martin-78 (talk) 07:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Jim Hokins (talk) 07:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Arado Ar 196 (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 09:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support CaféBuzz (talk) 09:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Golmote (talk) 12:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Shizhao (talk) 13:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Ok but hard to be implemented due to the ongoing IP masking proposal. Thingofme (talk) 14:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 18:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sgd. —Hasley 19:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support If or when IP masking becomes reality, it can be restricted to people who have the ability to see IPs (which is a great man people and IPs would still need some sort of unique identifier for attribution and abuse-handling purposes, which is why IP masking isn't going to be a thing for the foreseeable future). Editors hopping IP addresses to avoid blocks is very common and this would go some way towards tackling that. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Heterotrofo (talk) 21:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 21:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support – Dhtwiki (talk) 21:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Daniel Case (talk) 23:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gohan 03:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support MASUM THE GREAT (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 07:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Ameisenigel (talk) 08:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support As well as extending this to deleted contributions. Daniuu (talk) 19:16, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Izno (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support BRP ever 09:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support JAn Dudík (talk) 10:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Titore (talk) 13:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yahya (talk) 21:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ドラみそ (talk) 02:56, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support, though I believe that access to deleted contributions is even more important. Sdrqaz (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Barkeep49 (talk) 16:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Vincent Vega msg? 20:27, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Antimuonium U wanna talk? 23:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Rzuwig► 08:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support cyrfaw (talk) 11:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ~Cybularny Speak? 13:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --——d—n—f (fr.-sysop) (talk) 07:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support JFremd (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kalesh (talk) 09:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Geraki TL 10:40, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:24, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Julietdeltalima (talk) 18:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support —CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 19:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support and extend this to deleted contribs please as Daniuu says. -- Ferien (talk) 20:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Yining Chen (Talk) 10:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Johannnes89 (talk) 11:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 12:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support FoBe (talk) 14:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support MarioGom (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose--Libertyguy (talk) 21:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support The person who loves reading (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Bass-Kuroi (talk) 04:11, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:59, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Pa2chant.bis (talk) 10:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 02:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support NicoScribe (talk) 20:42, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support So far this isn't even possible for regular logs... ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)