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Mark userpage for translation

Is it allowed to mark a userpage for translation (under "user requests" group)? I know you can technically do it, but is there a policy against it? πr2 (tc) 22:45, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd personally recommend against it, unless the user in question pays Meta back with 100 pages moved from old to new translation system. :) Seriously, we still have thousands of pages that should be made translatable, but we only have a few dozens; adding a user page currently gives an undue weight to it, in reality. In principle, of course, there's no reason not to. --Nemo 22:48, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Can you give me a list of pages to migrate? :P Today I did Global locks and Global blocks, and I previously did Global rollback and Stewards/Elections 2013/Guidelines. By the way, the page in question was User:PiRSquared17/Translation/GS-delete drop down, if that makes a difference. πr2 (tc) 02:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Well done! From a quick glance, marking seems all correct. I hope we can improve our tools with time; Kaganer has recently added mw:Template:LangCat, you may want to check it.
There's plenty to do, see Meta:Translate_extension#Migration. You could start with Help and Meta pages, or with the sorting of translations to migrate from old systems (there's several kind of templates so it's not trivial to identify all the pages in question). --Nemo 19:29, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Yesterday I also did IPv6 initiative. I don't see this {{LangCat}} (mw:Template:LangCat) you mentioned. Can you give a link to it? I'll work on the Help pages today. I previously helped move all the translations of Help namespaces and fix the {{other languages}} templates, but now I guess they need to be fixed again! Thanks for that link (User:Nemo_bis/Old_translations). πr2 (tc) 21:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
LangCat wasn't imported yet on Meta, because there are also some different approaches. Import (copy) it, if you want it useful! --Nemo 21:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

So... are there any actual objections to marking User:PiRSquared17/Translation/GS-delete drop down for translation? πr2 (t • c) 15:34, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Vote for new policy proposal

As stated on the RFC I've launched the vote to have the resulting text approved. Vote will be opened from one week from now. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the vote was going to close in a week (8 March 2013 15:37 (UTC)), not open. It is already open, and has been since 1 March. πr2 (t • c) 01:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Note: the rewrite was approved by the community and the policy page has been updated. πr2 (t • c) 05:15, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks like this wasn't linked? I heard it's the first formal request of removal in four years, I suppose a link here is due. The page currently reads "Ending 15 March 2013 06:12 UTC" (while policy says, for RfAs, "at least a week").

I hope that those who care about this wiki will join the discussion and let me understand whether I am damaging Meta: it's so hard a thought to bear that I really need to know, and I'm therefore happy it's now being discussed, leaving the community free on the other hand to discuss of general matters without specific cases in mind, for the good of this project. --Nemo 22:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Rename "Main Page" to "Home"?

Hi. I've opened a discussion here: Talk:Main Page#Rename "Main Page" to "Home"? (permalink). --MZMcBride (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Who can be an admin?

See discussion on Meta talk:Administrators. πr2 (t • c) 17:39, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The discussion has been moved to Meta talk:Requests for adminship. Mathonius (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Note that the discussion has been closed, and the proposed changes have been implemented. πr2 (t • c) 21:53, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

If anyone wants to comment, see Wikivoyage/Lounge#New_Interlingual_Portal and the proposed version. πr2 (t • c) 00:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: The discussion is not over yet. Please wait before synching. πr2 (t • c) 00:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
And now there's another discussion on that page about not having a project portal at all. I'm not sure how that would be implemented. πr2 (t • c) 02:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Not really possible. More than destruction of portals, the proposal (now withdrawn) was to make the portals into an automatic redirect to the right language; coupled with a more powerful mw:ULS, enabled for unregistered users and enhancing also interwiki (interlanguage) switching. At least the latter is sort of planned, but will take a while. --Nemo 11:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Category for press coverage?

Is there a category for press coverage of Wikimedia and its projects? πr2 (t • c) 02:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, Category:Press coverage. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 03:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Use Category:Communications committee please. Most of that stuff is/was on internalwiki or chapter's private wikis (or other private wikis and private mailing lists) for copyright reasons. --Nemo 09:21, 22 March 2013 (UTC) P.s.: You're always so helpful, MZ. ;-)
I've added some pages to the non-existent Category:Press coverage, as suggested by MZMcBride. If you think they should be moved to Category:Communications committee, feel free to do so. I'm not sure whether the Communications committee is actually involved in some of that stuff (like the SOPA reaction), so I'll leave that up to you. πr2 (t • c) 19:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Give bureaucrats the ability to grant the flood flag to non-admins

Country name translation

I have found Category:Country names, but those templates only currently have translations into Czech and English. Also, that system is hardly used. Is there another way to get a translation of a country name? Can we use Wikidata or some already-defined translations? πr2 (t • c) 22:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Using Wikidata shouldn't be a problem, in my opinion. Wikidata has already translations of all country names in all languages which have a Wikipedia article in their language edition. Regards, Vogone talk 01:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
How can we use Wikidata? Can we even do that yet? Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion syntax isn't clear and is a draft. πr2 (t • c) 01:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
No, it is not possible yet, but it will soon. It should be possible on Wednesday. Regards, Vogone talk 01:34, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible now on Meta? Or just on (11?) Wikipedias? πr2 (t • c) 19:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Meh … sadly Wikidata is and will be only deployed to Wikipedias for now. I forgot about the fact that Meta-Wiki is not a Wikipedia edition. But I am sure you could use the data already manually (c&p). Regards, Vogone talk 19:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

History of Wikimedia

I recently added some historical information to the page Wikimedia Foundation. Does anyone want to add more dates or check it? Also, WMF#History is clearly outdated. πr2 (t • c) 19:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

There's also wmf:History and w:en:Wikimedia Foundation, of course. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:22, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


Hi. The top of my Meta-Wiki page says "english". What it should say is "English". How might one go about fixing this? Killiondude (talk) 21:45, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

IIRC CLDR is correct. I guess you use monobook and that it's monobook unconditionally making everything in mw:personal tools lower case, right? I guess you'd have to file a bug against monobook; mw:ULS maintainers won't fight with unsupported skins I'm afraid. --Nemo 23:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
It doesn't unconditionally make every personal tool lowercase. The username is exempt, of course. :-) And Monobook is still supported. Yes, please file a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). I'd noticed this as well, I just hadn't gotten around to filing a bug for it. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:43, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I can confirm that this is lowercase in Monobook, but not in Vector. I didn't even realize that before! πr2 (t • c) 02:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Here it is: bugzilla:46725. Killiondude (talk) 16:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)