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This page hosts requests for a Bot flag on a Wikimedia wiki with no bureaucrats. Please read the instructions before posting a request. Request to remove own permission should be done in SRP.

Please only make request here after gaining the on-wiki approval of your local community (i.e., don't list your bot here if you haven't consulted the local wiki for at least a week, or whatever local policies dictate). Previous requests are archived.

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Instructions

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Before posting here

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Before posting here, please check the following points:

  1. If there is a bureaucrat on the local wiki (visit Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat on the wiki to check): Please ask them to fulfill your request using Special:UserRights on the relevant wiki.
  2. Before requesting access here, make sure to obtain consensus on the local wiki if there is a community (see the index of request pages). If there is no local community, request on this page with a note to that effect. You can ask local bot flag directly here for some wikis in some cases (see automatic approval).
  3. Remember to read the local project's bot policy. This should be linked from the local bot request page; a few are listed below. DO NOT post your request here without having fulfilled the local policies first, and having waited for at least a week to gauge community opinion. In the case that the project does not have a local bot policy, the global bot policy applies.
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Making a request

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  1. Place the following code at the bottom of the "Bot status requests" section below:
    === Bot name@xxproject ===
    {{sr-request
    | status = <!--don't change this line-->
    | domain = 
    | user name = 
    | discussion = 
    }}
    (your remarks) ~~~~
    

    You can use following form when applying global bot status:

    === Global bot status for <yourbotname> ===
    {{sr-request
    | status = <!--don't change this line-->
    | domain = global<!--don't change this line-->
    | user name = 
    | discussion = 
    }}
    {{indent|''Not ending before {{subst:#time:j F Y H:i|+2 week}} UTC''}}
    (your remarks) ~~~~
    
  2. Fill in the values:
    • 'domain': the wiki's URL domain (like "ex.wikipedia" or "meta.wikimedia").
    • 'user name': the bot's user name (like "ExampleBot"). Leave it blank if you're requesting access for multiple bots.
    • 'discussion': a link to the local vote or discussion about the bot (for example, "[[ex:Wikipedia:Bots#ExampleBot]]"). Notes: If there is no local vote or discussion, please say so below the template and explain why not. If there's no community, implement the standard bot policy instead.
  3. If anything is missing from your request, a steward will request more information.


Global bot status requests

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Global bots are enabled on most wikis using the standard bot policy (see list of global bot wikis and global bot access requirements). Request will be left open for at least 2 weeks to allow comments, and will be advertised via MassMessage.

Please add requests at the bottom of this section using the template above.

Global bot status for Leaderbot

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Not ending before 26 September 2024 06:40 UTC

Global reminder bot. Some specific notes:

  • The purpose of applying for this right is that it's a bot, so it requires bot approval on projects, but one that is likely to be uncontroversial and rarely run (if at all) in practice for the vast majority of wikis. With a global bot, I can bypass the approval process and automatically add new wikis, and that's about it, because I am not going to mark the edits as bot in any case. This is especially helpful since the bot will be most useful on small wikis, especially those with temporary admins. This does not mean that I'm going to ignore local policy, to be clear - if a wiki still requires approval, I'll clarify or file a local bot request appropriately.
  • "The bot operator must demonstrate the bot task is welcomed on multiple Wikimedia projects" - the bot has been explicitly approved on 5+ projects (Slovenne Wikipedia and Wikifunctions without the bot flag), and in various stages of trial/approval on many other wikis (eg Turkish Wikipedia). It's on a one-month extended trial in the English Wikipedia. The exact list of wikis it's currently running on is available at Global reminder bot/global - this includes wikis that do not require approval and those that are on trial.
  • The bot supports custom messages for a certain wiki in any language, and otherwise supports translation of the default message Global reminder bot/Messages/default). The bot also supports localised date translation (if desired) in any language, and user right names are also automatically translated (except for global rights).
  • "The operator should make sure to adhere to the wiki's preference as related to the use of the bot flag." - Users and wikis can easily opt-out from the bot (and a couple of wikis have confirmed that they do not want the bot on their wiki). Wikis can also selectively exclude certain user rights entirely.
  • There have been no major bugs encountered on any wiki as of writing. There are a couple of minor issues (that do not affect bot operation) that I plan to fix soon.

Please let me know if there are any other questions you have. I've not messaged subscribers about this request, as I think it needs to be done by a steward.

Leaderboard (talk) 06:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that this bot needs to be set up for each wiki individually to accomodate their way of using temporary rights. So I do not see the need for a global bot flag. --MF-W 12:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg: This is actually not correct. Configuration is optional - if not configured, it will send a default message (Global reminder bot/global) instead and this is what I anticipate would be the case for most wikis. I only said that custom messages are provided as an option for those wikis that want to configure the bot (usually larger ones). Leaderboard (talk) 12:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The question is which wikis actually use temporary rights actively. Those that do surely want to have their own say about this, as already happened e.g. on Incubator, where this bot was rejected, or on enwiki, where I see people commented that some usergroups do not need to be notified etc. MF-W 13:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg See my answer to Krd's question before. I do not believe that the average wiki would reasonably object to this bot, and those that do can easily put their wiki in the bot's opt-out set (or would already be in the global bots opt-out set, so global bots do not operate on that wiki anyway) or customise as necessary on their own (which is a reason its configuration files are on Meta). The most common objection I've seen is "this wiki does not use temporary rights", which I'd say should be OK because the bot will do nothing in a wiki does not assign temp rights. Leaderboard (talk) 13:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Requests for dewiki and commons are still open, and one or another user (including me) pointed out that the service is perhaps not needed. Note that the bot account has flag at Commons for different tasks. Is this becomes a global bot, perhaps a separate account should be used for this task only. --Krd 05:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Krd The two are pretty large wikis, which are more likely to have their own preferences on using the bot. There was a reason I targeted many larger wikis first (and some smaller wikis), which is to get some feedback on possible (technical) issues before deploying it widely. I prefer sticking with one bot for organisational reasons unless absolutely necessary. Leaderboard (talk) 06:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How many temp rights in total are currently active on global bot wikis, and how many global bot wikis currently use temp rights at all? --Krd 13:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Krd I haven't checked this explicitly, though I can try to give an exact number if you want. I would say that most small and many medium-sized wikis would make use of temporary rights (as they wouldn't qualify for permanent adminship under MVR), and many larger wikis use it for temporary rights (at least for IPBE/IP-block exempt), and in the case of wikis such as enwiki, for other temporary rights such as new page reviewer, rollback etc. As stated above, one primary use of this bot is in small wikis as admins there generally tend to have a temporary period (eg 3 months, 6 months etc, up to 2 years). P.S: as part of an RfC, new wikis are automatically global-bot enabled. Leaderboard (talk) 13:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it could make sense to have this evaluation before the task is approved. I'm perhaps alone with the opinion that such notifications mostly support hat collectors (or hat keepers), but if it turns out that there is also no need because temp rights are used less that expected, I think this could be a real argument against. --Krd 05:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Krd: For all global bot wikis that are readable,
  • Number of wikis using temp rights at least once right now = 170
  • Number of total temp rights at the moment = 1541 (includes 603 from enwiki and 95 from hewiki, so 843 excluding them)
Note that a few wikis may technically allow global bots but have policies (i.e, in terms of what they can do) requiring local bot approval regardless, such as enwiki; a few users also have temp rights that are ignored by the bot, such as confirmed and bot flags. Leaderboard (talk) 07:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is more than I expected. Krd 03:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t support bot rights for bots that notify people. Even with the bot flag explicitly disabled, certain notifications are hidden/disabled for members of the bot group (e.g. watchlist notification emails don’t go out). For this reason, I’d like this bot to not get the technical global bot right; but I’m not against it being considered a global bot by other means (e.g. not going through the local process on each wiki), should other commenters be supportive here. (My personal opinion is that if one forgets about their right expiring, they likely don’t need that right that much, so I can’t wholeheartedly support the bot; but I don’t want to block the operation of it either.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tacsipacsi At least when it comes to talk-page notifications, users won't be notified only if the bot posts with the minor edit tag. Isn't there a way to handle concerns such as "watchlist notification emails don’t go out" as well? Also: I should note that multiple wikis actually prefer (if not require) the bot flag to be set even if the bot does not do much on their wiki or explicitly sets the flag in its edits, as it aids them with filtering and abuse filters. Leaderboard (talk) 04:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of global bot status

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Please see the removal policy for global bots for the requirements that must be met for global bot removal requests.

Bot status requests

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Leaderbot@frwikivoyage

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There is one local bureaucrat on this wiki, who hasn't responded despite my messaging them on their talk page. I'm not sure on what to do, or whether I should not run this at all or run this without a flag (due to the lack of comments on my request + bot is expected to almost never run in practice). Thanks in advance. Leaderboard (talk) 12:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold I'll send the local bureaucrat an email, waiting for a week. EPIC (talk) 12:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now  On hold until further notice. EPIC (talk) 20:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaderbot@bnwikipedia

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No response. Contacted a bureaucrat, no response there as well. Leaderboard (talk) 08:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold, given the size of bnwiki (and that they do have an explicit process for bot applications) I think I'd want a local bureaucrat to have a look first. Anyways, both of them were globally active within the past month, so hopefully they should be reachable. @NahidSultan and Wikitanvir:? EPIC (talk) 08:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Also, pinging @Yahya: as a bnwiki user/steward, in case they have any comments or objections to the bot running on bnwiki.) EPIC (talk) 09:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I personally do not have any objection. I am trying to contact the bureaucrats. Since the bot does not need a bot flag, I believe the community can approve this even if the bureaucrats are absent. ~ Yahya (talkcontribs) 19:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of bot status

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Requests for removal of the bot status from your own bots can be done here. If a specific user is abusing their bot status, you may request removal of the status on their account here as well. Please be sure to provide a short explanation on the current situation, along with links to the bot's contribution and an announcement in your community of the abuse. Previous requests are archived.

See also

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