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LangCom members, your feedback is needed[edit]

Dear member of the Language Committee (@Amire80, Antony D. Green, Bèrto 'd Sèra, Maor X, GerardM, Jon Harald Søby, Karen:, @Arria Belli, MF-Warburg, Evertype, Millosh, Baba Tabita, SPQRobin, Santhosh.thottingal:, @Shanel, ZaDiak:),

can you please give some kind of feedback to the many request for updates that lie unanswered on this page?

Thank you. Candalua (talk) 11:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Tunisian[edit]

Dear Sir, Since 2011, we are doing some works in order to define a Wikipedia in Tunisian. So, what are the conditions so that this wikipedia could be created in the near Future? what should we do?. Yours Sincerely, --Csisc (talk) 10:36, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

There should be continuous activity in the Incubator test-project by at least 3 contributors for at least several months. --MF-W 23:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Awadhi Wikipedia[edit]

I request the language committee to consider the Eligibility of Awadhi Wikipedia.--Anuraag Pandey (Leave a message) 10:24, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikiversity Croatia[edit]

We are requesting to have Wikiversity for university articles in croatian language. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 8 April 2015, 13:52

You can contribute on BetaWikiversity. There is currently only a main page for Croation: betawikiversity:Glavna_stranica. --MF-W 23:52, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Khowar Wikipedia[edit]

On behalf of the Khowar language speakers from Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and Xinjiang(China) I, the undersigned Test Wiki Admin and translator humbly request the language committee to consider the eligibility, approval and creation of Khowar Wikipedia.--Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 13:19, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

The activity on Incubator is good, but there are at the moment 224 untranslated messages from the most-used group which need to be translated first. --MF-W 23:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Mr.MF-W and all respectable members of Language Committee I am pleased to inform you that I have completed the translations today as desired by your goodself, Please normalise and create the as soon as possible, with profound regards -- Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 07:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

luri lrc wikipedia[edit]

luri lrc was active in 2 last years.this wiki has 5 or six active useres but this wiki was'nt make so far?. so thanks.lrc lori (talk) 17:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Pashto Wikiquote[edit]

I request the language committee to consider the Eligibility of Pashto Wikiquote--UsmanKhann (talk) 05:48, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Võro Wikipedia ISO code[edit]

Dear representatives of Language Committee!

I am writing to you on behalf of Wikimedia Eesti following a request from Võro Wikipedia volunteers, which is one of the projects supported by the Estonian chapter. I am writing to this discussion page, as I do not know how to deal with this specific request.

The community of Võro Vikipeediä (especially one of their remarkable activists Võrok) requests a change to their wiki page address from to Namely, during the creation of the Võro language Wikipedia page in year 2005 it did not have an ISO code and it was decided to give it an awkward combination of fiu (finno-ugric other) and vro (for võro), resulting in fiu-vro. In 2008, however, a request was made to give võro language a 3 letter language ISO code (ISO 639-3) and in January 2009 the change became effective. Since then võro language has an ISO code vro (entry on SIL international page).

Maybe on the basis of this now available ISO code a change from fiu-vro to vro can be made? Please, let me know how to proceed with the issue!

Thank you for your time and kind attention! --Kaarel Vaidla (WM EE) (talk) 08:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

There is already bug T31186 which requests this. However, renaming wikis is currently not possible, see the tracking bug linked from there. --MF-W 12:42, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Dear representatives of Language Committee, the bug on change fiu-vro > vro exists already from 2011. As I understood from the last link above ([[1]] Reedy (and others) had attempted to solve the problem and had found Wed, May 13, 6:55 PM: TL;DR for this is: Renaming wikis is hard. Does it mean that code change xxx-xxx > xxx for fiu-vro, bat-smg, map-bms, roa-rup etc. will not be done at least in next say five years? Living and operating with an awkward unofficial code is not a big problem for Võro Wikipedia, just I am curious when this a bit problematic and unsystematic situation will be changed.--Võrok (talk) 08:55, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
It is really impossible to say. The last activity on the bug T21986, which is about making wiki renaming possible, last had activity one week ago. If I need to make a guess, I would say that it will be possible before five years are over, however. --MF-W 10:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for explanation. As I see there is good will and only technical issues must be solved. Best wishes,--Võrok (talk) 11:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

inactive members of the committee[edit]

Some of the members of the committee haven't been active even in their home wiki lately (=at least one year, sometimes even more). Shouldn't we have a policy on the subject? It looks also a little bit eurocentric, considering missing languages are in other area of the world nowadays maybe proposing new candidates from Asia, Africa or South America to replace inative ones would be a good strategy on the long term.--Alexmar983 (talk) 13:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

As a non-member of the committee, I disagree any policies are needed. You cannot force voluntary activity by policies, and especially not activity by users of certain regions of the world. Vogone (talk) 13:44, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
I disagree as well, because this has nothing to do with what I said.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
"Some of the members of the committee haven't been active even in their home wiki lately (=at least one year, sometimes even more). Shouldn't we have a policy on the subject?"
In my opinion, that line implies you would like to force LangCom members to be active on their homewikis by policy.
"It looks also a little bit eurocentric, considering missing languages are in other area of the world nowadays maybe proposing new candidates from Asia, Africa or South America to replace inative ones would be a good strategy on the long term."
Proposing LangCom members won't help much either, because since this is a volunteer job, you will need to be interested in this yourself. If there are no interested applicants from these regions of the world, there is nothing one could do about this, you cannot force someone from there to join LangCom either. Vogone (talk) 15:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
but i have never used the verb "forcing". to me a policy means to write that if you haven't been active for 12 months, there is no point in keeping a position. Noone is "forcing" you. If you don't work, how can you be present? This principle is applied in many area, it is just good sense. And the second sentence has nothing to do with the policy itself, it is a suggestion to look for candidates form other area. You don't want to do it? Don't do it. The people you contact are not interested, fine. But I really cannot imagine how can you possibly write in a policy something like that. Take it easy, chap :D--Alexmar983 (talk) 16:47, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, a policy should usually be enforced, even if you didn't explicitly mention the word "force". ;-) Nevertheless, the issue I see with the homewiki approach is that most of LangCom work happens off-wiki, i.e. on-wiki activity cannot really be taken as a measurement, in my opinion. Regards, Vogone (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
enforcing a policy does not mean forcing someone, e.g. to edit just to keep a flag. It is still his/her choice to do that. In any case, I really have the feeling that some of these people are simply inactive. And I really don't get how you can produce a structured opinion if you are not "inside" the workflow yourself, at least a little bit. One or two years on wiki are a "geological age", as I often say. For example: how are you supposed to "maximize the co-operation level among different language communities" if you don't know anymore how the local wiki you were related is corrently working (and I doubt you know a lot about the ones you have never been active on).
in general, it is not fully clear how the selection of member is working, is there a place where it is openly discussed? It does not sound great (but I am not irritated, I just find it "funny") to read "if you are interested in becoming a member [...] email to langcom at or contact any member in private. " after paragraph named "transparency".--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

South Azerbaijani Wikipedia[edit]

Hi. There are some latest news related to South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. First, let me give you a short brief about Azerbaijani language: More than 25 million Azerbaijanis live in Iran, they don't have literary language, because they are not allowed to learn Azerbaijani in schools. They use Arabic script to write in Azerbaijani and most of them cannot understand Latin letters which are in use in Azerbaijan Republic. More than 9 million Azerbaijanis live in Azerbaijan Republic and as I mentioned above, they write in Latin alphabet and except some scholars, teachers and enthusiasts no one understands Arabic script which is in use in South Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijan was divided into two parts in 1813. South part stood in Iran and the North part joined Russia. So in the last 200 years Azerbaijani language developed in two different ways. In the South there are many words from Persian and Turkish and in the North we have also many words from Persian, Arabian, Turkish, Russian and different European languages. In everyday conversations we can understand each other with some difficulties, but when we start to talk on scientific topics, biology, physics, geography etc it's very hard to understand terms. That's why we need two different wikis, we even cannot use mirroring to read. We understand that it will be a waste of time.
Most of users from Azerbaijan Republic were confused by Arabic script in Azerbaijani Wikipedia. We had discussions on this problem since az-wiki started. Newcomers were asking old users to delete articles in Arabic script and don't allow users to create new articles in this script. But at that times we had strong believe that South Azerbaijani Wikipedia is too weak to grow independently, that's why many of our users voted against creation of azb-wiki years ago.
But we alarmed when article count reached 100.000 in az-wiki. More than 10.000 of them were articles in Arabic script (most of them were stubs). We saw that it's too hard for this 2 scripts to "live together". And we started systematic deletion of all articles written in Arabic script in az-wiki. This process came to an end few days ago. So now in az-wiki we don't have articles in Arabic script. We asked all our South Azerbaijani users to work in Incubator to help azb-wiki to become an independent project.
P.S. I also wrote the same message in Wikimedia Incubator to inform them too.--Wertuose (talk) 20:17, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Any chance of simple French Wikipedia being approved?[edit]

I need to establish a test wiki for the Requests for new languages/Wikipedia French Simple 3 proposal, but there is no separate ISO code available: it would have to piggyback off of the existing FR ISO code so it would be "simple-fr" or something to that effect.

I would like to confirm if the Simple French language (French is a major world language and has a standardized simple form) has a chance of getting its own Wikipedia. If so I would like to have guidance on how a test wiki may be created.

Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 19:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Balochi wiki - Incubator[edit]

Dear members of the Language Committee (@Amire80, Antony D. Green, Bèrto 'd Sèra, Maor X, GerardM, Jon Harald Søby:, @Arria Belli, MF-Warburg, Evertype, Millosh, Baba Tabita, SPQRobin, Santhosh.thottingal:, @Shanel, ZaDiak:), would you kindly do favourable as early as possible for Balochi wikies - Request for merge project and to bring a new site. Ahmed Nisar (talk) 11:53, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussions about moving pages on Incubator do not need to be brought to Langcom's attention. --MF-W 11:56, 22 May 2015 (UTC)