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Notifications from Langcom about proposed approvals

Rakhine Wikipedia

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T392490

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Rakhine. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. --MF-W 19:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

For the record: Still trying to obtain verification of the content. --MF-W 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

...but it is going on! --MF-W 09:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Any update? --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 06:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg, Is there anything I can help for this? Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 12:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I've sent you an email. -- MF-W 15:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I would like to know why this wiki(wp/rki) is taking so long to approve. I have already prepared the requests. I am currently helping as a second time test admin in wp/rki. If there are any needs, please feel free to let me know.@MF-Warburg @Joseph @Ninjastrikers YaThaWinTha (talk) 10:10, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

YaThaWinTha: I am sending you an email. --MF-W 10:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

I am noting here that the issues are planned to be resolved in January or February. --MF-W 15:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Update: there should soon be an update. --MF-W 22:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

I am happy to notify the community that the issues have been fixed and approval can proceed. --MF-W 14:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Madurese Wikisource

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T391747

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikisource Madurese. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. --Sotiale (talk) 12:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

@Agus Damanik: Please make sure all settings are correct. Thanks. --Sotiale (talk) 12:18, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

See phab:T391747. --Sotiale (talk) 14:31, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the update Boesenbergia (talk) 13:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Minangkabau Wikibooks

The Language Committee intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikibooks Minangkabau. If you have any objections to that based on the Language Proposal Policy, please tell us here on this page in the next 7 days. Meanwhile, the community is asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request page. (Ping: User:Zhilal Darma) --MF-W 22:29, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg I have forwarded it to the community. Thanks Zhilal Darma (talk) 15:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Discussions

Madurese wikisource

I keep asking this multiple times. Do you mind to tell me what's the problem so we can adress to work on the hatching. it's been more three monts Agus Damanik (talk) 03:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Agus Damanik (talk) 10:58, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Why ping me? Anyway it looks like @Sotiale: proposed approval of mad.wikisource as per [1], you may instead ask that member on the approval process. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Just think that you are quite active responding. Sorry if i annoy you. Thank you for the mailing list. I don't know if it exist. Once again, sorry to ping you Agus Damanik (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

@Sotiale is there any thing that we need to improve, cause i see that tagalog wikisource is approved recently. Thank you Agus Damanik (talk) 05:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I started a discussion about approval because I thought your project met the requirements for approval at the time I initiated that thread. However, none of my colleagues responded. The only advice I can give you is to increase the number of pages from the current number and to keep active. I will send a reminder email to start the discussion again. --Sotiale (talk) 08:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

got it Agus Damanik (talk) 09:13, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Dear @Sotiale, I'm one of the member of the community user group. I will forward it the community Boesenbergia (talk) 11:54, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Bengali Wikinews

Hello, I am an active editor of Bengali Wikinews. The Bengali Wikinews is a highly active test project, and I am requesting its approval. Mobashir - 🇧🇩 (talk) 05:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Very positive, but I would like to see activity next month(April). If activity is similar to the current one next month, I would like to start a discussion for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Sotiale Can you give us any update? We are so excited! Mobashir - 🇧🇩 (talk) 05:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I have a problem with this that I can't reveal right now. I heard that it will be released soon. This is not your problem, so don't worry too much. --Sotiale (talk) 13:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Sotiale, Is there anything the community or editors can do to help resolve the issues? Thanks. Asked42 (talk) 14:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Oh! Thanks @Asked42. I was thinking about this type of answer. Mobashir - 🇧🇩 (talk) 14:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

@Asked42: Unfortunately, there is nothing I am authorized to disclose at this time. I'll let you know when it's officially released. Or maybe this has already been made public, but I haven't caught on yet. I want to emphasize again that this is not your community's problem. --Sotiale (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

@Sotiale Thank you for the clarification, but we still do not fully understand the issue. Mobashir - 🇧🇩 (talk) 15:01, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Ancient Greek is a “living”, “L2-speakers-only” language according to SIL

Respected Sirs and Madams,

Hi!

Last year, we discussed the admissibility of an Ancient Greek Wikipedia. Amir E. Aharoni sent an e-mail to SIL (the organization which manages both ISO 639 and Ethnologue, as you know), asking to clarify why they classify Ancient Greek both as an “historical language” and as a “living language” (I have not "unarchived" our 2024 conversation because it was very long; let me know if I should do otherwise; for those who might want to read it again, it was titled “Classical languages”).

Since I did not receive any news, I have also tried to write to SIL, asking some questions, and they confirmed that “‘historical’ language does not imply ‘extinct’”. They also provided me with this Ancient Greek language card: grc language status is “code 9” (“second language only”), while “extinct” would be represented by code 10.

Here is their definition of code 9:

"Second Language Only status. While there are many languages that are used as second languages by large populations of speakers, the phrase “Second language only” is used to identify a specific category made up of those languages which are used as second languages but have no L1 speakers and generally weak or secondary ethnic or identity associations. These may include languages of special use, such as languages of initiation, languages of interethnic communication, liturgical languages, as well as cants and jargons. Most often these languages are given a status of EGIDS 3 (Wider Communication) but are identified in this way as well because of the absence of L1 speakers."

On the one hand, it is true that no one speaks just Classical Greek and no “modern” language; on the other hand, SIL is a bit too hasty when it describes the contemporary use of Ancient Greek as just "religious". In fact, Classical Greek is also used by classicists as a vehicular language: Today, it is possible to find classes taught in Classical Greek (even online, e.g. this reading and commentary in Classical Greek of the Apology of Socrates); it is even possible to learn other languages through Classical Greek, such as Ancient Persian: this is particularly interesting, because it is difficult to find classes of Ancient Persian even in “modern” languages.

For these reasons – along with those I have already expressed in 2024 – I’d like to ask you to revise your restrictive policy towards Classical Greek, and to admit the theoretical possibility of an Ancient Greek Wikipedia (maintaining firm that it must meet also the other admissibility criteria, before final approval). Thank you very much for your attention! Anaxicrates (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I'd like to report to you that on Monday, April 14, UNESCO's Executive Board unanimously adopted a decision proposing the proclamation of February 9th as "World Greek Language Day". This is indeed a recognition of the special value of the Greek language, since this privilege has been accorded to no more than 8 other international languages. In particular, Classical Greek played a crucial role in this decision, as you may read in the Explanatory Note on the UNESCO website. There, among other things it is stated that:

Greek combines four particularly significant characteristics:
1) An unbroken continuity of 40 centuries of oral tradition and 35 centuries of written tradition [...].
2) A highly elaborated structure as a language (vocabulary, grammar and syntax), due to its use by unparalleled historical figures of literature, poetry, theatre, philosophy, politics and science, such as Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Aeschylus, Thucydides, Hippocrates, Archimedes [...].
3) A widespread presence in many languages, as, over time, Greek has been one of the most important languages in terms of its influence on all other European languages and, through them, in the world of languages [...].
4) The Greek language was and remains to this day an inexhaustible source of international scientific terminology [...]. This is an internationally recognized feature of Greek, which is clearly documented, based on empirical and historical data.
As the linguistic cradle of basic concepts of culture, science and philosophy, Greek holds, by historical and objective criteria, a distinct place among the languages of the world [...].
Historically, the Greek language occupies a key position in intellectual thought, in the linguistic expression and formulation of fundamental concepts and key words of European and wider, almost universal intellectual thought which are conveyed, understood or traced in words/concepts of the Greek language.

Thanks for your attention! Yours, Anaxicrates (talk) 17:37, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

What I can tell you is that your screenshot uploaded to Commons is now deleted due to lack of evidences why SIL permitted you to upload here under a proper free license. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that was inevitable, because I didn't ask them to compile the necessary form to keep it online any longer. Anyway, SIL showed us the "Standard view" language card in the hope "this helps you decide how to proceed."

Regarding the fact that they consider Ancient Greek both as a "historical" and a "living" language, they replied to my inquiry stating: "You are correct that historical language does not imply extinct".

They also told me that "In the Starter view, the language vitality portion is less specific, though the heading does note that Ancient Greek [grc] is used only as a second language". Anaxicrates (talk) 18:29, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for Approval of Magahi Wikipedia

Hello Language Committe, the Magahi Wikipedia test project has been active for over a year and we would like it to be approved. The request for the approval has been made here. Please review the project and suggest if anything more needs to be done. Thanks - ऐक्टिवेटेड् (talk) 00:43, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I'm planning on starting a review on this; this Sunday. --Sotiale (talk) 13:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Création d'un wikipédia en langue pazande

Bonjour,

Je vous écris pour demander la création d’un wiki en langue pazande (zandé). C’est une langue parlée par beaucoup de gens en Centrafrique, au Congo et au Soudan du Sud. Mais jusqu’à maintenant, y’a pas vraiment de contenu en pazande sur internet.

Un wiki dans cette langue serait utile pour :

• Garder la langue vivante,
• Apprendre à ceux qui la parlent ou veulent l’apprendre,
• Et montrer que le pazande a aussi sa place en ligne.

Si ce projet voit le jour, je suis partant(e) pour aider.

Merci d’avance pour votre attention.

Azi ni,

Mbï a zïmbi mo sï mbï sô na gbêtê wiki na pazande. Pazande azzî gï mô ti mbênî na Ködörözêse tî Afrika, Kongö na Südan. Kasi na internet, ayekée lïngdï sô na pazande.

Wiki na pazande ape gï tî :

• Tî fîngö pazande sô ayeke pû,
• Tî kûa na mo sô yeke sîngö pazande,
• Tî gï pazande pû sô na internet.

Sô lo yeke gba ndë, mbï yeke gï sï na kûa.

Mbaraka mingi. Bulhornes (talk) 19:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Voici le code status = open

| language = Zande language

| meta = no

| mainpage = Wp/zne/Main Page

}} Bulhornes (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Request for Approval of Hiligaynon and 5 other Philippine languages

Hello Language Committee, the following proposed Wikisource projects in the Philippine languages: Hiligaynon, Ilokano, Kapampangan, Pangasinan, Sinugboanon, Waray have been active for at least 5 months (hil, ilo, pam, pan, ceb, war) due to the Wikisource Loves Manuscripts PH program launched in June 2024, and the community would like the project to be reviewed for approval.

There is no Wikimedia project yet in Hiligaynon language. --Filipinayzd (talk) 05:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Approval request for Malay Wikiquote

Hello Language Committee, the Malay Wikiquote project has been active for 5 months. We kindly request your review of this project and hope that the Committee can approve it. Thank you. - Rulwarih (talk) 01:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Approval request for Betawi Wiktionary

Hello Language Committee, The Betawi Wiktionary project has been active for 5 months. We kindly request your review of this project and hope that the committee can approve it soon. Thank you. - Pitchrigi (talk) 14:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Language Committee, is there any issue that we need to resolve before the approval for this site? It is because the previous request was archived before any update. Thank you in advance. NikolasKHF (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Proposal to become a member

Imaynallan, Hello to everyone,

I would like to express my interest in becoming a member of the Language Committee. I am a native speaker of the Puno Quechua language, and a near native speaker of various Quechua languages. Additionally, I speak Spanish, Italian, and basic German. Since years, I have been supporting the inclusion of the Quechua language (qu) on various Wikimedia projects, and I have a deep interest on supporting Under-Resourced Languages. Last but not least, I have noticed that the South American region may need some representation in the language committee, and I would like to support this region and these topics.

It would be an honour if I can support more language communities to be part of the Wikimedia ecosystem.

Elwinlhq (talk) 08:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

📝 Application to Add Indus-Kohistani Language to Wikipedia

To:

Language Committee,
Wikimedia Foundation

Subject: Request for the Addition of Indus-Kohistani Language to Wikipedia Respected Members of the Language Committee, I am writing to formally request the creation of a new Wikipedia edition in the Indus-Kohistani language, under the ISO 639-3 code mvy. Indus-Kohistani is an endangered Dardic language spoken natively in the upper Indus Valley of Northern Pakistan, primarily across the Kohistan region and adjoining areas of Gilgit-Baltistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. With over 200,000 native speakers, the language holds a rich oral heritage, comprising traditional poetry, folktales, epic songs, and indigenous knowledge systems. Despite its cultural and historical significance, Indus-Kohistani has limited digital representation and almost no presence in modern online encyclopedias or academic repositories. Creating a Wikipedia in Indus-Kohistani would serve as a major step in revitalizing and digitally preserving this unique linguistic heritage. We have already initiated work on a test project on the Wikimedia Incubator, where native speakers and language enthusiasts have begun developing content in Indus-Kohistani. Additionally, we are actively working through TranslateWiki.net to translate the necessary interface messages into the language, and we have three committed contributors who are ready to maintain and grow the project. The language has: A valid ISO 639-3 code: mvy A growing user base interested in knowledge contribution Orthographic consistency in Perso-Arabic script Cultural and educational value that aligns with Wikimedia’s mission In light of these points, I respectfully request that the Language Committee approve the creation of a dedicated Indus-Kohistani Wikipedia to help preserve, promote, and empower this endangered language and its speakers. Thank you for considering this proposal. I am available to provide further information, answer any questions, or assist in the development process in any way needed.

With highest regards,

Saif Ullah Jailani General Secretary, Forum for Indus-Kohistani Research & Culture Development Location: Gilgit, Pakistan Xl8saif (talk) 07:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

You're in the wrong place. See Requests for new languages for the correct process to follow, rather than posting what looks like an AI-generated form letter. And incubator:Wp/mvy doesn't exist to begin with, so We have already initiated work on a test project on the Wikimedia Incubator seems wrong. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)