User talk:InternetArchiveBot/Archives/2023
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Not a dead link
In this edit the bot states that it’s a dead link see here, but that is not the case. So somewhere an error? SportsOlympic (talk) 23:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Same problem here. This link is not dead, but IAB tags it as such: [1]. --Edelseider (talk) 07:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- @SportsOlympic and Edelseider:
- If you view the user page, you will see that you are given some ability to do things ... https://iabot.toolforge.org/ There is a MANAGE URL and also REPORT A PROBLEM components. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:53, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have tested and reported SportsOlympic's as LIVE. @Edelseider: For your link, I get This site can’t be reached. inventaire-strasbourg.grandest.fr took too long to respond. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:01, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: thanks for your reply. My link opens instantly whenever I click on it. How could that be? --Edelseider (talk) 07:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Edelseider: Talk to your provider about the routing, etc. Run some routing checks from around the place. You are too close to yourself, and can be on the good side of firewalls, server side issues, and the like. It is happening for Wikimedia to you, and from me to you, so that is two completely different places in two different parts of the world, so it is unlikely the broader internet and something close to your site. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:58, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: thanks again for your reply. To prevent any further misunderstanding: when I wrote "my link", I did not mean "the link to my own website", but simply "the link that I am referring to" - I am completely foreign to https://inventaire-strasbourg.grandest.fr/gertrude-diffusion/. I suppose that this routing issue will resolve itself over time. Best wishes, --Edelseider (talk) 09:14, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Edelseider: Talk to your provider about the routing, etc. Run some routing checks from around the place. You are too close to yourself, and can be on the good side of firewalls, server side issues, and the like. It is happening for Wikimedia to you, and from me to you, so that is two completely different places in two different parts of the world, so it is unlikely the broader internet and something close to your site. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:58, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: thanks for your reply. My link opens instantly whenever I click on it. How could that be? --Edelseider (talk) 07:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have tested and reported SportsOlympic's as LIVE. @Edelseider: For your link, I get This site can’t be reached. inventaire-strasbourg.grandest.fr took too long to respond. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:01, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
HTTPS
Hi! Could it be possible to modify the bot so if original source cite is http://example.com and it is now https://example.com and only the https form is in internet archive so the bot chacks also the https form? I found one article where bot had marked source dead but I found it on the archive by just replacing http to https. --HenriHa (talk) 08:05, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- HenriHa, while that is a good idea to do where it is possible, to have the bot do this, in every instance where it could, would result in the bot making about double the requests to the Wayback Machine. So unfortunately it would not scale well. Harej (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
about.com usurped, now blacklisted
about.com
- (LinkSearch: meta s/meta | en s/en | es s/es | de s/de | fr s/fr | ru s/ru | zh s/zh | simple s/simple | c s/c | d s/d | Wikipedias: top 20 · 40 · major wikis · gs)(Search: Google | en (G) | fr (G) | de (G) | meta (G) | backlinks | → links ←)
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This domain is now just being used for marketing spam through redirects, and every sub-domain now redirects to unreliable data source and no consideration for anything trustworthy. I have blacklisted the domain as it is clearly all new links are spam. We need to manage existing links. Please mark it as usurped. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- billinghurst, we have marked about.com and its approximately 1,000 subdomains as permadead. It may take a while for the bot to go through and fix all of the URLs. Harej (talk) 22:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Yep <sad face>. Thanks to the team of people here for fixing. As mentioned at enWP, I have suspended the blacklisting to allow for clean up, and just need to be pinged to reimpose that blacklisting. I am guessing that there will be some new listings arriving during that time, but ... meh! — billinghurst sDrewth 22:28, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- The links should be usurped with steps at WP:USURPURL. I'm doing it on Enwiki with WaybackMedic (which is most of them), the other language editions will have to be via IABot as normal dead links, no usurpation. -- GreenC (talk) 22:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
fi-wiki: Selkäkipu, source removed
Bot romeved source from the article Selkäkipu. Is this a mistake? [2] --HenriHa (talk) 00:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi HenriHa. I'm not managing IABot, but I can tell that it's not a mistake. That source (named ":85") is being used 3 times in the article, instead of writing the entire "
{{Lehtiviite|Tekijä=Michael A. Adams, Manos Stefanakis, Patricia Dolan|Otsikko=Healing of a painful intervertebral disc should not be confused with reversing disc degeneration: Implications for physical therapies for discogenic back pain|Julkaisu=Clinical Biomechanics|Ajankohta=2010-12|Vuosikerta=25|Numero=10|Sivut=961–971|Doi=10.1016/j.clinbiomech.2010.07.016|Issn=0268-0033|www=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20739107/}}
" three times, one is enough. A more detailed explanation can be found at en:Help:Footnotes#Footnotes: using a source more than once. ~StyyxTalk? 22:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Khmer Wikipedia no need InternetArchiveBot
Khmer Wikipedia no need InternetArchiveBot broken link unknown. 27.109.114.127 03:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Can you clarify your question? I am not sure what you are asking. Harej (talk) 22:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Please stop
Your bot does make strange changes in the articles, example in the Russian Wikipedia: insert extra empty pages and extra spaces into <code>{{Публикация...}}</code>. As result the text (article code) is maked less readable. Please stop this. Thanks. P.S. Also your bot make archives for the Goolge Books site, where text of book can't be readed. — Grumbler eburg (talk) 20:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Grumbler eburg, the syntax issue should now be fixed as of version 2.0.9.3. As for Google Books we have recently removed those archives as well. Harej (talk) 22:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Is there a "force snapshot" feature planned?
I don't know if this question is relevant to a possible feature of InternetArchiveBot.
There have been several instances where I find a dead link, and I find no corresponding page archived on the Wayback Machine. Or worse, the Wayback Machine archived the 404 page of the target.
I was wondering if there was a way, during IABot's scans, to have IABot cause the Wayback Machine to make a snapshot of a page that isn't dead yet, if a snapshot doesn't already exist? Anachronist (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Anachronist, whenever an external link is posted on Wikipedia or any Wikimedia wiki, it is picked up by the Wayback Machine for archiving by an automated process. Although that process is underway, unfortunately it does not always work. Harej (talk) 22:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks, it is good to know that the Wayback Machine picks up new external links. I was referring, however, to external links that already exist, and wondered if there was some sort of bot that goes through these and triggers the Wayback Machine to snapshot it if the link isn't dead, and the link has no corresponding snapshot yet. Anachronist (talk) 01:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Anachronist, the bot technically has this feature, but it has been disabled since it make the bot extremely slow (and it is already pretty slow). That said, what we could do is produce a dump of external links on Wikipedia and then run that through the Wayback Machine as a one-time job to cover those links that were added before we started working off of the recent changes feed. I will look to see how feasible that is. Harej (talk) 21:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: That sounds like a good idea. The only catch would be to have some way to avoid archiving links that are already 404. I see a lot of those 404 pages archived on the Wayback Machine already. Certainly links already tagged as "dead" on a Wikipedia page should not be snapshotted, but maybe the list of links could be run through a script that checks to see if the target website returns code 404 in the reply header, instead of 200 or 301. (Also the list should be sorted first to remove any duplicates.) Anachronist (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Anachronist, the bot technically has this feature, but it has been disabled since it make the bot extremely slow (and it is already pretty slow). That said, what we could do is produce a dump of external links on Wikipedia and then run that through the Wayback Machine as a one-time job to cover those links that were added before we started working off of the recent changes feed. I will look to see how feasible that is. Harej (talk) 21:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks, it is good to know that the Wayback Machine picks up new external links. I was referring, however, to external links that already exist, and wondered if there was some sort of bot that goes through these and triggers the Wayback Machine to snapshot it if the link isn't dead, and the link has no corresponding snapshot yet. Anachronist (talk) 01:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Syntax error in march 2021
Hello bot authors, in ca wikipedia https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perit&diff=26767761&oldid=25406639 the bot had interrupted a nbsp syntax. Maybe the error in the bot has been fixed long time ago, only the resulting error in the article has remained so far? --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 07:53, 16 January 2023 (UTC) (The part can be found by web browser phrase search for "p {{W".) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 07:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Himbeerbläuling, thank you for your report. We are tracking the issue on Phabricator. (Good find!) Harej (talk) 21:40, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Reason behind this issue? Is it based on IABOT itself? If so, will it be fixed? --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 10:48, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Toghrul R:, any ideas? --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 11:37, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Solavirum, see the existing section: § IABot throwing 503 error czar 16:49, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: czar 16:49, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Hungarian Wikipedia
Hello bot authors, in Hungarian Wikipedia if you find only link between brackets (eg: hu:Halálozások 2017-ben)
instead of this form
[http://szabadpecs.hu/metal/item/1374-elhunyt-dr-stark-andras-pecsi-pszichiater-filmklubvezeto] {{Wayback|url=http://szabadpecs.hu/metal/item/1374-elhunyt-dr-stark-andras-pecsi-pszichiater-filmklubvezeto |date=20171210180602 }}
please use this one
[https://web.archive.org/web/20171210180602/http://szabadpecs.hu/metal/item/1374-elhunyt-dr-stark-andras-pecsi-pszichiater-filmklubvezeto]
your current form is not fit to the table. Csurla (talk) 12:09, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Csurla, unfortunately the bot can't distinguish between links in tables and otherwise. So to prevent the bot from using {{Wayback}} for standalone deadlinks, we would have to turn that feature off for the entire wiki. If you are proposing that you would need to show that the community prefers this. Harej (talk) 21:49, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
This bot is also active on dewiki, but similar articles are not edited there (eg: de:Nekrolog Dezember 2019).
How is it possible? I want the same thing on huwiki. Csurla (talk) 14:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Csurla, on German Wikipedia they have the bot set to only modify links in references. This operating mode can be set for Hungarian Wikipedia if the community reaches a consensus to do that. Harej (talk) 21:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
add new archive link for nymphalidae butterflies
would like to add a archive link to the distribution of nymphalidae butterflies, specifically the "afrotopical butterflies: nymphalidae". the archive link is https://web.archive.org/web/20160304000050/http://atbutterflies.com/downloads/nymphalidae_limenitidini.doc but i don't know how -tynjee (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- -tynjee, what article would you like to add that link to? Harej (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: 'almost every' article about butterflies thats part of the nymphalidae family but in africa -tynjee (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- -tynjee, I added the archive link to those pages where that URL already appeared. Those pages are: Neptis serena, Neptis sextilla, Neptis strigata, Neptis swynnertoni, Neptis troundi, Neptis vindo, Neptis vingerhoedti, Neptis woodwardi. Adding the archive link to additional pages when the link didn't already appear there to begin with would be out of scope for this bot. Harej (talk) 19:56, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: 'almost every' article about butterflies thats part of the nymphalidae family but in africa -tynjee (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
All batch jobs stalled
The five currently-running batch jobs (11994, 11995, 11996, 11997, and 11998) are all currently stalled at zero progress. It appears that the most recent batch-job edit was this one nearly two weeks ago. Is this related to the error noted in the section above which cropped up yesterday? Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 17:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Whoop whoop pull up, the job queue is partially down as we migrate it to a new system. It should be back at the moment, albeit at reduced capacity. Harej (talk) 21:19, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Bot is marking sites dead that are not
https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Indianapolis&diff=prev&oldid=4605715 https://megabus.com/ is not dead. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Koavf, I am having trouble loading that website on my home connection, but it seems to work when I use a VPN. But this differentiated experience would explain why the bot detected it as offline even though it works for you and probably others. In any event, for that specific article, https://us.megabus.com may be a more appropriate link (and one that loads without problem on my connection). Harej (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed that your proposed URI is better, and I did replace it. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
IABot throwing 503 error
IABot fix-links tool is throwing 503 Service Unavailable error when run on en WP articles. Cheers! WikiWikiWayne (talk) 09:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- WikiWikiWayne, the management interface was down earlier but should be back up. Let us know if this is not the case. Harej (talk) 21:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks James! Cheers! WikiWikiWayne (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- James – The IABot Management Interface is again throwing the "503 Service Unavailable" page error. It was only fixed briefly. Cheers! WikiWikiWayne (talk) 18:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Getting this error now: "
DB ERROR : QUERY: CREATE DATABASE IF NOT EXISTS s51059__cyberbot; ERROR - : Error encountered while creating the database. Exiting...
" when I visited the website just only. Paper9oll (talk) 13:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC) - @Cyberpower678 and Harej: - IABot Management Interface now throwing new results error: "
DB ERROR : QUERY: CREATE DATABASE IF NOT EXISTS s51059__cyberbot; ERROR - : Error encountered while creating the database. Exiting..."
- Cheers! WikiWikiWayne (talk) 15:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)- WikiWikiWayne, there has been an ongoing operational outage and that error will display while this is ongoing. Everything should be back online within the next several hours. Harej (talk) 21:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Getting this error now: "
- This section was archived on a request by: —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 03:26, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
False positive on rueWIKI
Igor Kercsa (talk) 21:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
One year ago I stopped the bot because of this. Now it repeats and You blocked the opportunity for users to stop it. Have mercy on us.--Igor Kercsa (talk) 08:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Igor Kercsa: Sorry about that. That was a mistake on our part. Twirpx has been whitelisted. The website blocked all Wikimedia IPs from accessing it.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:17, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Bot flooded the Wuhan article in Tagalog Wikipedia with spaces
Hi, it seems that there is a bug in your bot. Check the article tl:Wuhan. It flooded with empty spaces in the past months. I reverted it to the version without the flooding. Please fix it or turn-off the bot if this cannot be fixed immediately. Thanks. --Jojit (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the report, Jojit fb. It appears to be an obscure bug that happens when template parameters are separated with nonstandard space characters such as the non-breaking space,
& nbsp ;
. We are tracking the bug on Phabricator, but in the meantime, if you erase the whitespace characters in the template call using these characters, it should avoid this problem. See: edit removing characters; subsequent normal edit. Harej (talk) 22:17, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
False positives
Yesterday I ran through a number of edits by InternetArchiveBot to some of the pages on my watchlist at the English Wikivoyage, trying to update the links whenever possible. On three occasions, the links marked as dead seemed to work fine, so I just removed the tags (1, 2, 3), thinking that the websites might just have been temporarily offline when the bot checked. However, in a matter of hours, the bot put the tags back (1, 2, 3), despite links working fine the last time I checked again, after the tags were restored. As far as I could notice, what these three websites had in common is that they opened with pop-ups of sorts at the time of checking, so that might have to do with these false positives.
Any possibility to fix this? Vidimian (talk) 14:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Vidimian: the first and third links are dead from where I'm sitting. The second one is caused by a geo-restriction rule on this CloudFlare enabled site. I have whitelisted atus.konya.bel.tr.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:20, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's interesting that I can access the first and third links alright as I'm typing this. I'm not techie enough to understand clearly, but out of your words I guess they are not accessible outside Turkey. Perhaps I should look for a workaround by substitute websites that are equally informative about the subjects on hand and compliant with the external links policy of Wikivoyage. Vidimian (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Please check edit
Hi there! Could you please review this edit and make any appropriate changes to the article? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: This is a case of GIGO. Can't really fix the bot for this one. But I can fix the URL.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:22, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Bot cause issues for already added correct archive links in Wiki Farsi
Hi! The bot is harming all of my nicely created links. When I work with old information or newspapers that are from unstable sources, I usually add the archive link myself. Your bot keep following, checking my links and find a way to mess with my already working links or their archived links. Please check this link as one of many examples and let me know if I should provide with more information. https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%85_%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C_%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86&diff=35498746&oldid=35462802 Aerospc (talk) 14:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Aerospc: Archive URLs need to go to the archive-url fields on the cite templates. Their original URL counterparts need to go in the 'url' field. This is so the citation is rendered correctly. The bot is simply enforcing this. If you look at the rendered page, you will see that the original URL does not render.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:27, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
What should we do, generally, when the bot's page throws this error? Does it need to be reset? (old thread) czar 22:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like the answer is to restart the management interface webservice if this happens again czar 23:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: czar 23:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Interface down for maintenance or crashed?
I was running en:List of awards and nominations received by Blackpink yesterday for around 30+ mins (longer than expected which isn't normal to me. After the makeshift fixes, it would run at 10 mins max which still is long compared to good old days but at least it's running) after which I was shown a white screen (no archiving was applied to the article as seen in the article's contribs) and couldn't visit the inteface website since then, it has been down since yesterday. Is this a bug caused by the makeshift fixes applied previously or did I crashed it by running a huge article through the interface website. Paper9oll (talk) 16:05, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- As of 14 February, I'm getting this error
DB ERROR : QUERY: CREATE DATABASE IF NOT EXISTS s51059__cyberbot; ERROR - : Error encountered while creating the database. Exiting...
when visiting the website, this is the same error as reported previously with User talk:InternetArchiveBot/Archives/2023#IABot throwing 503 error and tracked with task T327851. Paper9oll (talk) 10:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Allowing GhostArchive?
Can GhostArchive be added into the code as an second alternative to the current default Wayback Machine and alternative Archive.today? GhostArchive is able to proper archives troublesome website that uses tons of javascript in their coding which both Wayback Machine and Archive.today has trouble in doing so at times and/or all of the time for certain websites such as only able to archive header and footer but body content is whitespace because it uses javascript. Paper9oll (talk) 09:37, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Paper9oll, while InternetArchiveBot primarily queries archive.org, we do look at other archive providers as well. Pinging GreenC: would GhostArchive be a good fit for Wayback Medic? Harej (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Ghost is good for end-users who want to archive a troublesome site that has a lot of JS. The bot can't determine what a troublesome site is, so it would be up to end-users to create the archive via the Ghost website, then add the archive URL into Wikipedia. Once in Wiki, IABot will detect it and add it to its database, so if it ever encounters that URL elsewhere it will be inserted into Wikipedia. The user who is most active adding Ghost archives is Rlink2 on enwiki. I'll add some users find Ghost controversial because it's small and run by 1 person of unknown origin. -- GreenC (talk) 20:41, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej and GreenC Apologies for the late reply as I'm waiting for the interface to be up which it finally did today, I'm actually referring to "Modify URL Data" page in which adding GhostArchive's archived URL there would be disallowed which in turn means that no changes would be made, this however doesn't happens for archive.today URL that are manually added there. The bot also doesn't actually add GhostArchive's archived URL which were already in the article into the database but instead would overwrite with useless Wayback Machine ones (useless because basically not working as Wayback Machine couldn't handle the bunch of JS), the only method to prevent such is to simply use Cbignore template, of which this isn't sustainable as I can't be the only dude adding Cbignore template on one article but other article (I won't know which article has and which doesn't) that uses the same troublesome site but doesn't has Cbignore template hence causing inconsistent archival URL between article to article with the same citation. Paper9oll (talk) 15:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying, Paper9oll. We are tracking the issue on Phabricator and you can follow there for updates. Harej (talk) 21:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
work in uk-wiki
The edit. Firstly, replacing of archived links to books and scientific articles with original+archived links should not be done at all: these pages can not change, so it is useless cluttering of the text and inserting of links which eventually will be dead. Secondly, even this unwanted work is made incorrectly: the bot inserts empty parameter "назва", and it suppresses display of the parameter "заголовок". Sneeuwschaap (talk) 01:14, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sneeuwschaap, thank you for your report. There are two parts to this. First, there is the moving of the archive link. This is expected—archive links go in the "archive link" parameter, rather than the chapter link. That should be reserved for the original URL. The second part is the hiding of the source title. That was a misconfiguration on the bot's part – it was configured to recognize заголовок but not Заголовок (with capital З). This has now been fixed and a test confirms this. Harej (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the second part. Regarding the first, I think that such approach is an empty formality which gives no advantages and a modest disadvantage (cluttering of the text). Sneeuwschaap (talk) 22:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Unable to use IA Bot
Hello. I was trying to use the Internet Archive Bot in meta wiki. So, I clicked the run bot on a single page option but it shows that the action I request to perform needs the analyzepage permission. Can you help me please? The Abnormal Guy (talk) 11:59, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- The Abnormal Guy, you won't be able to use the tool on Meta-Wiki until you have made a total of ten edits. Harej (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Template parameter numbering
Apparently the bot doesn't parse unnamed parameters to templates correctly, see this edit. 70.172.194.25 10:00, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your report; we are tracking this issue on on Phabricator. Harej (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Missing language codes on en.wikt
Hello. This diff by InternetArchiveBot resulted in this version of the page having an error message due to a missing language code, which I have just corrected in this diff. Would it please be possible to take these into account going forward? Happy to advise if you have any questions. Theknightwho (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- In the particular diff you cited, it shouldn't even be using {{quote-web}} at all; instead it should be using {{cite-web}}, which doesn't require a language code and so the issue you mentioned would have been entirely avoided. (See next section.) 70.172.194.25 01:52, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Following up in subsequent section. Harej (talk) 21:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
It didn't work on archiving?
Hi, I can't archive links on en:MARTA rail, but the bot isn't working. CastJared (talk) 20:34, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- CastJared, can you describe what happens when you try to use the bot? Harej (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Reporting a false positive
I would like to report a afalse positive when the bot tried rescuing an archived link, that was already working fine. Conifer archive link. Conifer like Ghost archive is one of the Youtube video archiving sites for Wikipedia citations. I reverted the bot's edit and am notifying the devs about it here. Qwerty284651 (talk) 18:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Qwerty284651, thank you for letting us know. It looks to be the new name of Webrecorder, an archive provider that is supported, but under its old name and domain. We will update the bot accordingly. Harej (talk) 21:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej:, thank you for responding swiftly. Also, I found a similar phabricator located here. Qwerty284651 (talk) 00:45, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Error in Turkish Wikipedia
In Turkish Wikipedia, if we add an off-site link, this bot writes a sentence next to the link saying "Archived on November 15, 2013 at the Wayback Machine". This happens in the actual text, not in the bibliography. I have come across this many times, for example:
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/IV._A%C4%9Fa_Han
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/III._A%C4%9Fa_Han
https://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%82det&oldid=28742182
https://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yerel_toplum&oldid=28739553 Fathylmz (talk) 11:19, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Fathylmz, the bot is configured this way per local policy to not replace URLs with archive links, but rather to add them alongside. To prevent this, the bot would have to be disabled from editing outside of the references section, and this requires community consensus. Harej (talk) 21:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Bot is defaulting to the wrong template on en.wikt
I've realised that InternetArchiveBot is using {{quote-web}} in places where {{cite-web}} should be used. The former requires a language code, because it's used for attestations. However, it shouldn't be used in reference sections, as that's what the latter is for. {{cite-web}} does not require a language code. This diff is an example of the wrong template being applied.
Could the bot please be fixed in the following way?
- Use {{quote-web}} only when the wikitext line begins with the regex
#+\*+
(i.e.#*
,##*
,###*
,##**
etc). That is the only context in which it is allowed to be used. - Otherwise, use {{cite-web}}.
Theknightwho (talk) 14:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- {{quote-web}} should probably be the default for Citations namespace, though, even when the line doesn't start with
#
. 70.172.194.25 01:51, 14 February 2023 (UTC)- Agreed - I had forgotten about that. For completeness:
- In the main namespace, use the behaviour I describe above.
- In the Citations namespace, always use {{quote-web}} unless enclosed in ref tags.
- In any other namespaces, always use {{cite-web}} (likely only going to come up in the Reconstruction namespace, where academic citations are common, but quotations never occur as this would cause the term to be moved into the main namespace). Theknightwho (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Theknightwho, the bot only operates in the main namespace, and it is now configured to use cite-web and not quote-web. See test edit confirming this. Harej (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks. It still seems to be adding the wrong template, however (diff). I spotted this due to the error. Theknightwho (talk)
- Theknightwho, the configuration change is being overridden by this configuration page. Specifically "webpage" needs to be changed to the preferred template. This needs to be done by an administrator. This will also change the default template used by the "Cite" button in the visual editor. Harej (talk) 21:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks - I'll do it. Theknightwho (talk) 21:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Theknightwho, the configuration change is being overridden by this configuration page. Specifically "webpage" needs to be changed to the preferred template. This needs to be done by an administrator. This will also change the default template used by the "Cite" button in the visual editor. Harej (talk) 21:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks. It still seems to be adding the wrong template, however (diff). I spotted this due to the error. Theknightwho (talk)
- Agreed - I had forgotten about that. For completeness:
Bot keeps tagging links as dead even though they've been reported as false positives
This is happening on en.Wikivoyage, the targeted links are to sub-pages of the site of the Bulgarian National Railways: https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgaria&curid=5063&diff=4624656&oldid=4623337&diffmode=source It's possible that the site blocks bots, or that something in the nature of those pages confuses the bot. I've reported the URLs via the "false positives" thing on Toolforge, but without any effect - the bot tagged the same links just now. Daggerstab (talk) 13:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Daggerstab, thank you for your report. We think this false positive was caused by the website being georestricted. Your submission as a false positive should have prevented the bot from continuing to act on these links, but it didn't, so that's a bug. We are tracking it on Phabricator. Harej (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Bot adding unnecessary archivedate parameter on en.wikt
See diff. On the English Wiktionary, {{quote-web}} and {{cite-web}} both automatically generate archivedate
using the Internet Archive URL. Could you set the bot so that the archivedate parameter is not used when archiveurl
begins with https://web.archive.org
? Ioaxxere (talk) 00:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Ioaxxere, there needs to be an archive date parameter in the template call because the bot can't selectively drop "archivedate" – it always either does it across the board, for all archive providers (including those that do not have dates in the URL), or not at all. Harej (talk) 21:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Why replace warp.da.ndl.go.jp with web.archive.org?
In en:Special:Diff/1142300795 for en:Japanese community of Düsseldorf, InternetArchiveBot replaced "archive-url=" from warp.da.ndl.go.jp to web.archive.org without explaining why. The archive WARP (https://warp.da.ndl.go.jp/?_lang=en) is a legitimate archive operated by the en:National Diet Library of Japan, and the particular archive page https://warp.da.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/9597364/www.dus.emb-japan.go.jp/profile/japanisch/j_wirtschaft/j_DUS.htm is valid and visible. If such substitutions are really necessary, please make the edit summary more specific, such as "Archive with English headers are preferred", "Third party archives are preferred over governmental sites" etc. The action of rewriting "url-status=live" to "url-status=bot: unknown" for a live link is also puzzling. -- Wotheina (talk) 13:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Presumably the actual situation is that the bot had never heard of the archive so thought it was an invalid URL, not that it has an opinion on its merits. * Pppery * it has begun 03:51, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wotheina, as Pppery explained the bot hasn't been configured to support that archive provider. We will work on adding support; you can track progress on Phabricator. Harej (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: Thanks (BTW the correct URL on Phabricator is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T331570 ). For such cases, please add to the edit summary something like "Removed unknown archive". Regarding the "url-status=" field here, I suggest avoid touching it, because "url-status=bot: unknown" obstructs displaying the live (non-archived) link for no good reason, adding extra burden to verify dubious edits such as en:Special:Diff/1143488072 in en:Japanese Mexicans. --Wotheina (talk) 06:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wotheina, as Pppery explained the bot hasn't been configured to support that archive provider. We will work on adding support; you can track progress on Phabricator. Harej (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Parameter question
Is it standard practice, when archiving a ref, to add the generic "Archived copy" as the title? (eg: here). Along with being inaccurate, it also creates a "script warning" (in preview mode) and a notice (in the ref list) such as: "Script warning: One or more {{cite web}} templates have maintenance messages". Are there any other options for this? Thanks Thewolfchild (talk) 15:48, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thewolfchild, this isn't an error, it's just a maintenance message to keep track of references that are titled "Archived copy". It does not mean there is anything wrong with the reference. Harej (talk) 21:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: I didn't say it was/or created an "error", nor did I say there was "anything wrong with the reference". I asked if it was standard practice for the bot to add "Archived copy" to the title parameter. I wanted to know if there are other options for this action. Also, to what purpose does it keep track of these refs? Thanks again Thewolfchild (talk) 20:22, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thewolfchild, it is. This setting is set in the "cite defaults" page, a configuration page only accessible to the tool operators. I believe User talk:Trappist the monk requested the tracking. Harej (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, I'll drop Ttm a note and see what more info I can find. Thanks again Thewolfchild (talk) 04:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thewolfchild, it is. This setting is set in the "cite defaults" page, a configuration page only accessible to the tool operators. I believe User talk:Trappist the monk requested the tracking. Harej (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: I didn't say it was/or created an "error", nor did I say there was "anything wrong with the reference". I asked if it was standard practice for the bot to add "Archived copy" to the title parameter. I wanted to know if there are other options for this action. Also, to what purpose does it keep track of these refs? Thanks again Thewolfchild (talk) 20:22, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
IABot causing massive havoc to multiple articles due to double archiving error
IABot (the bot itself and also through the interface) is doing double archiving as seen here, here, here. here, here, here, and here despite multiple citations in the article already archived previously with filled {{archive-date=|archive-url=|url-status}}
as seen in the diffs. Not just the linked articles that were affected, more than 50+ articles were also affected based on my quick scan of en:Special:Contributions/InternetArchiveBot. And also, as seen in the diffs, it seem like the IABot is adding {{Webarchive ...}}
template instead of appending to the existing {{Cite web ...}}
or its other variations, which is abnormal. Paper9oll (talk) 15:45, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Paper9oll, this was caused by a brief operational problem which has since been addressed. Can you confirm? Harej (talk) 19:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Archive date in Farsi Wikipedia
Recent changes made the references red, the error is "Check date values in: |archive-date". Salome mi (talk) 11:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Salome mi, please link to a page where this is happening. Harej (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, I already fixed it though: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%B4_%28%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AF%29&diff=36633143&oldid=36271374&diffmode=source Salome mi (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Které stránky Wayback Machine archivuje?
Dobrý den, omlouvám se, že píši česky. Rád bych se zeptal, zda byste dokázali zodpovědět dotaz z české Wikipedie na stránce wikipedia:cs:Wikipedie:Pod lípou (technika)/Archiv 2022-1#Archivace URL opět (označuji @Draceane). Nevím, zda v tomto se Vy vyznáte, nebo nevyznáte, ale aspoň to zkouším a ptám se. Zajímalo by nás, zda víte, dle jakých kritérií Wayback Machine ukládá externí odkazy z Wikipedie a sesterských projektů. Ukládá jen odkazy z článků, nebo i z diskusních stránek, nebo i z jiných jmenných prostorů? Bere to odkazy například i ze šablon?
A věděli byste, proč někdy externí odkazy z článků uloží a jindy ne? Například wikipedia:cs:Kateř Tureček – některé externí odkazy nebyly uloženy v kolekci Wikipedia Eventstream.
Nebo stránka https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2019-50770798 není v kolekci Wikipedia Eventstream, ale přitom se nachází v článku wikipedia:cs:Diagram rozdělení voleb. Mohu dohledat i další příklady.
Děkuji za odpověď, pakliže víte. Marek Genius (talk) 18:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Marek Genius, I am not sure if this answers your question, please let me know if it doesn't, but the Wayback Machine is crawling every external link posted to every Wikimedia wiki. It tries to save external links where it can, but if a site goes down before the bot gets to it, or something prevents any of the crawlers from getting to it, then it won't archive the link. It may also be possible for something to not end up in EventStream for whatever reason. Harej (talk) 22:03, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Add 1 book for Verifiability
I wonder where are edits like this documented and configured. I don't think we originally approved this feature in our wiki, and also IABot interface doesn't seem to provide a way to switch it off without disabling the bot altogether. Book references necessarily don't need an URL, especially if this URL is to a limited preview (subscription item) such as in this example. @GreenC --Pikne 12:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Pikne, it is an option we have enabled for some wikis to add links to previews of books/print resources, in addition to fixing dead links. I can see this task wasn't approved on Estonian Wikipedia so it has been shut off there. Harej (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- This task appears to be still active: et:Special:Diff/6353198. Pikne 20:27, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Empty ref name
Bot causing havoc (1, 2) as one as making a references mess when deleting content of all same-named references not even analyzing is that content the same or not when "optimizing" empty named (<ref name="">
) references. Any ideas how to avoid such bot activity? Be112 (talk) 20:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your report Be112. We are tracking the issue on Phabricator. Harej (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: You're welcome. Probably there's an task name given does not fully convey the meaning of a problem as it's much wider. Probably it would be better to name it:
When two (or more) different references, all named "" (empty string), exist in an article, the bot removes all of them except first one leaving an error at all the next ones
as there's 3 such reflinks exists at given example and only 2 of them were deleted (first occurence - "''[[Аляксандр Уладзіміравіч Піскуноў..." was left intact).Be112 (talk) 00:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Harej: You're welcome. Probably there's an task name given does not fully convey the meaning of a problem as it's much wider. Probably it would be better to name it:
Dpreview
dpreview.com is going down. We've got about 1700 links to the site. Would it be possible to make sure they are all archived?Geni (talk) 01:39, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Geni, I can confirm that work is being done to preserve this site. Harej (talk) 01:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
parameter duplication
Bot ignores template primary named parameter existence adding a duplicate alternatively named one, i.e. here it adds |accessdate=13 сакавіка 2023|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20100324052855/http://starlife.com.ua/posts/kto-ona-vse-ob-alyosha-alesha-predstavitele-ukrainyi-na-evrovidenii-2010-biografiya-foto--4112.html|archivedate=24 сакавіка 2010|deadurl=yes
to "cite web" template where already archive-date=2010-03-24
have place, which leads sometimes to duplicating resulting values. Despite concomitant template error has been resolved, ignoring parameter existence (that way nor changing nor deleting it) while adding same-meaning parameter is a bad bot behaviour. Be112 (talk) 18:49, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Be112, we identified the template configuration problem causing this, and it should now be fixed. Harej (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
WP-uk
Turning images into gibberish on WP-uk, e.g. uk:Емінак Kwamikagami (talk) 15:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- This edit unnecessarily added archive version of museum website!!! Or is there any policy to add archive versions by default? రుద్రుడు (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- రుద్రుడు, these edits were made over a year ago. The bug occurring in these edits has since been solved. Harej (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Kwamikagami, see my response in the line above. Harej (talk) 21:05, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Kwamikagami (talk) 21:09, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- This edit unnecessarily added archive version of museum website!!! Or is there any policy to add archive versions by default? రుద్రుడు (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Trying to archive
Hi, I keep on getting trapped on Google Chrome, which is "This site can’t be reached". Is there any problem? CastJared (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- CastJared, it is possible the management interface was down while you were trying to load it, but it should be online now. Harej (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Question
Hello,
Why IABot for suwiki isn't active ?
Ariandi Lie (talk) 13:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ariandi Lie, only because we have not gotten to it yet. If you would like, we can work on setting the bot up on that wiki. Harej (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ariandi Lie, the bot has begun editing; please review the bot's contributions. Harej (talk) 21:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
AIbot
I try to use the AIbot but is met by this text "The action you are trying to perform requires the analyzepage permission. This permission is obtainable with the following groups: basicuser, user, admin, root, bot". I then get to nowhere where I can confirm to use the bot. BabbaQ (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- BabbaQ, make sure the correct wiki is selected from the dropdown on the top-right. You may have a wiki selected where you do not have sufficient edits. Harej (talk) 20:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
email confirmation not receiving
Updated email id ends with listru in Email preferences of User preferences. I have never received email to confirm it. Checked spam directory also. రుద్రుడు (talk) 02:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- రుద్రుడు: the system responsible for sending emails is not currently working. Harej (talk) 20:33, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Error 503 when trying to access IABot site
Hi, when I try to access the IABot site I receive an Error 503 (service unavailable). Just thought I'd report it here because I hadn't seen it reported here yet. XtraJovial (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
"Bad title: The page you entered is invalid or doesn't exist. Please check your spelling and try again."
For the last few days, I have been receiving this error every time I try to run the Bot. Any ideas on what is going? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Gonzo_fan2007, what text have you been inputting? Harej (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Harej I have been trying to submit a number of different articles: I tried Bud Jorgensen, Bob Harlan and I even tried my sandbox at User:Gonzo_fan2007/sandbox. I honestly haven't ben able to get the bot to run any article for a while. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just tried to do List of Green Bay Packers stadiums and get the same error message. Honestly, I can't get the bot to run a page for 3 days now. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Have you checked that your are running on the correct wiki? There's a wiki dropdown on the menubar in the top right.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:26, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Fml, ya that was the problem. Not sure how it got swtiched! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Have you checked that your are running on the correct wiki? There's a wiki dropdown on the menubar in the top right.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:26, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
What is the easiest way to run on more than 100 articles
Is there any easy way to run on more than 100 articles as a single batch? రుద్రుడు (talk) 05:24, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- రుద్రుడు, you can submit a bot job to submit at least 500 articles. Make sure the correct wiki is selected from the drop-down box on the top right. Harej (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- User:Harej I thought there may be some easy when i came across submit a bot job. Typing 50 or more will be tedious. I tried using my watchlist url. It was not helpful. Now, there seems to be ways: [1] make a list in text file and submit as batch job [2] copy and paste from edit raw watchlist (alas, i need either marking all edits as watchlists) [3] make feature request to upload or parse downloadable json file provided by xtools.
- రుద్రుడు, if you go to Special:EditWatchlist/raw, that is probably your best option for now. Harej (talk) 20:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- User:Harej I thought there may be some easy when i came across submit a bot job. Typing 50 or more will be tedious. I tried using my watchlist url. It was not helpful. Now, there seems to be ways: [1] make a list in text file and submit as batch job [2] copy and paste from edit raw watchlist (alas, i need either marking all edits as watchlists) [3] make feature request to upload or parse downloadable json file provided by xtools.
"Add archives to all non-dead references" for jobs
Is there a way to make multi-page job batches behave like the "Add archives to all non-dead references" for single page runs is enabled? Apocheir (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Apocheir, it does not. Multi-page job batches are made from the bot's account, and thus are subject to the wiki's bot policy and the terms of the bot's approval. Therefore there are no options to customize those jobs. Single-page analysis is run under your own account so you have more leeway to customize. Harej (talk) 20:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Orignal links broken and "url-access=subscription" parameter question
On this edit the bot turned a slash in the original URL into a "%2F" on several references which apparently broke those original URLs, and since the references were behind a subscription paywall and had the "url-access=subscription" parameter the resulting archive links weren't actually useful in any way. Is there a way to either prevent the bot from modifying the original URLs or to skip references that have the "url-access=subscription" parameter since it's just going to archive the login screen for those instances? Aoidh (talk) 00:33, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your report, Aoidh. We have submitted a patch to IABot and this should be fixed soon. Harej (talk) 20:52, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
schedule run info on various wikis
Where can i find info about iabot scheduled runs, for example on whole kn wiki? I am planning to run few hundred of articles at once. It will be meaningless if iabot was run couple of months ago or recently. రుద్రుడు (talk) 07:53, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- రుద్రుడు, you can see the outstanding run status of the bot on the run pages. The bot doesn't run on a schedule. Rather, the bot cycles through an entire wiki in alphabetical order, and then starts again when it is done. Harej (talk) 20:54, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
"url-status=bot: unknown"
In en:Special:Diff/1149091736 for en:Jugemu, InternetArchiveBot wrongly rewrote "url-status=live" to "url-status=bot: unknown". This differs from the previously filed phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332221 "When incorrectly flipping unrecognized archive to archive.org, it converts link status from live to "bot unknown"" (report), because the new case happened with web.archive.org, a recognized archive. Again, I ask the bot made not to touch the "url-status=" field. Wotheina (talk) 07:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Wotheina, if you change the status back, the bot will respect it from there. When the bot is editing an existing template, it can't know what the original context was, so it has to be later clarified. Harej (talk) 20:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Wrong bot edits
Hello, I would like to report two cases where the bot is wrong:
- Wikipedia:it:Speciale:Diff/132884554: the original URL to the Microsoft website is dead, unlike what the bot thinks (moreover, the archive URL, strangely, works but in my opinion that's not reason to change it)
- Wikipedia:it:Speciale:Diff/132884599: as discussed here, the archived version on the Internet Wayback Machine is bugged (a JavaScript script automatically redirects the user to a 404 page after a few seconds), while the archived version at Ghost Archive is clean
Thank you in advance Luca Ghio (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Luca Ghio, the bot has issues processing the "short form" Ghost Archive URL, so the longer form that spells out the total URL should be used instead and the bot will leave it alone. Harej (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Question: queue bot on lynx
I am on debian testing using lynx. When i tried to submit few pages using "queue bot..." it fails with network read error. Is it technically possible to use lynx for running queue bot. రుద్రుడు (talk) 08:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- రుద్రుడు, the IABot Management Interface does not support lynx. Harej (talk) 21:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
{Cite ___} parameters
Good work, bot. Including (apparently) scraping edit history to provide missing "access-date"s!
But: In Wikipedia, parameters of templates, such as {cite ___}, are supposed to have one space before each "|"(pipe), no space after any "|"(pipe), no space before or after any "="(equals_sign), and no space before any "}"(closing brace). (I am very comfortable with this format. For one, it puts the forced line-breaks in better places.) You create some of these the opposite way. I think every bot should add or change parameters in the preferred style that is used in most examples and human edits.
Also, I think these parameters, which you often add, would be added by humans in this natural order:
|url= |access-date= |url-status= |archive-url= |archive-date=
Thus, looking at an edit in which you inserted (appended) parameters thusly (alphabetically??):
|access-date = 11 September 2015|archive-date = 31 January 2015|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20150131192706/http://test.com/folder/file.htm|url-status = dead
,
I think you should have inserted them in this style and this order:
|access-date=11 September 2015 |url-status=dead |archive-date=31 January 2015 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150131192706/http://test.com/folder/file.htm
I don't know how others feel about it. Many existing manual refs are styled and ordered as I have shown. Having variations is not a great thing; it makes reading tedious. These automatic edits are doing them differently than humans are likely to. I don't get to mass-produce my preferences and mistakes for better or for worse. I am sad to see a robot casually doing just that. I feel more obliged to nudge a bot than human editors, even very active ones, because of its numerous edits. I appreciate that a human(s) is behind these bots.
A next level would be to adjust (correct) the spacing of all existing parameters to the same style. (Someday maybe a project will standardize all ref parameters or all template parameters. But even this little reformatting of existing markup, mass-applied, might be controversial.)
A next level would be to change the order of existing parameters. One of my prefs is to include always place |url=
just before |access-date=
(and everything else before that). Another pref is to always order |last= |first= |author-link= |last1= |first1= |author-link1= |last2= |first2= |author-link2=
(and similar). (But I have no complete order in mind for all 99 parameters -- should |title=
always precede |author=
, or vice-versa?, etc.) (Someday maybe a project will standardize all ref parameters or all template parameters. But this degree of reordering existing markup might be controversial.) A876 (talk) 23:52, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- A876, the bot is programmed to respect the space formatting used in the page, so if you want the bot to use a certain style, have that style used consistently throughout the page. Rearranging parameter order is completely out of scope. Harej (talk) 21:13, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, there is a issue of trying to use the IABot tool. It thrown into a 503 Service Unavailable error message. CastJared (talk) 11:48, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Error in pt.wikipedia
Hello.
The bot is replacing %20
in the URL's with spaces, making it invalid. Exemple: diff.
Regards. --Stegop (talk) 20:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Another issue: here the bot added the "title" parameter but the synonymous "título" was already present. --Stegop (talk) 15:33, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Overzealous archiving at the Zeelandic test wiki
Hi, can you pleeeease disable your bot for this page? It just keeps on archiving a page that's alive and well at its present location. And what's mote: it contains a script that automatically refreshes itself. It would be quite a rotten thing if you settled for an obsolete version of that page.
What I think your bot does, is visit the page and then triggering the counter. This happens when the page is visited and the last refresh was at least six days ago. Scanning the entire database for entries takes quite a while - longer than your bot can wait. When its patience runs out, it draws the mistaken conclusion that the page is unavailable and goes looking for an archived version. But having to revert this manually over and over is quite galling. So, can please you stop it? Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 21:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- Steinbach, according to our scan log, the website appeared to have gone down at a point. However, we manually scanned the page you linked, and the bot recognizes the link as being alive again. This should solve the problem. Harej (talk) 21:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
failed to archive
On te wiki Page, iabot failed to add archive "Office of the Registrar General & Census Commissioner, India - Village amenities of 2011" రుద్రుడు (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)