Wikigames (2)

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
This page is a translated version of the page Wikigames (2) and the translation is 99% complete.
Outdated translations are marked like this.
Other languages:
Bahasa Indonesia • ‎Bahasa Melayu • ‎English • ‎Lingua Franca Nova • ‎Plattdüütsch • ‎Zazaki • ‎dansk • ‎español • ‎français • ‎italiano • ‎magyar • ‎português do Brasil • ‎shqip • ‎suomi • ‎العربية • ‎مصرى • ‎తెలుగు • ‎中文
This page is a proposal for a new Wikimedia Foundation Sister Project.
Status Under discussion
What is the proposed name for the project? Wikigames
Proposed project tagline El juego wiki
Project description
What is the project purpose? What will be its scope? How would it benefit to be part of Wikimedia?
Una wiki detallada sobre los videojuegos, consolas, editores, revisores. La wiki también sería una guía de cómo hacerlo.
How many wikis?
Will there be many language versions or just on one multilingual wiki?
En todos los idiomas. En un primer momento sólo en algunos idiomas.
How many languages?
Is the project going to be in one language or in many?
Al igual que Wikipedia, cada idioma que quiere una necesidad wiki pasa a través de la incubadora.
Proposed project website address wikigames.org (disponible)
Proposed logo for the project GamesWiki.svg
Proposed interwiki prefix for the project g:
Technical requirements
If the project requires any new features that the MediaWiki software currently doesn't have, please describe in detail. Are additional MediaWiki extensions needed for the project?
See License
Development wiki Test wiki
Interested participants

Propuesto por

CreativeC38

Propuestas y proyectos relacionados

Wikigames y VideoGamesWiki.

Objetivos

Wiki Games es un wiki de juego, sus objetivos serían:

  • Ser una guía completa para video-juegos: cada elemento, caracter, mundo o juego tendrá su propia página, independientemente de su notoriedad.
  • Ser capaz de hacer un informe preciso de las críticas y los jugadores, con el fin de permitir que nosotros tengamos una opinión neutral. Se elaborarán comentarios: por ejemplo, vamos a comparar dos juegos similares. Y las fuentes utilizadas serán actualizadas. Al mismo tiempo, diremos lo que era la actualización actual cuando las fuentes hayan sido escritas. Los Youtubers serán fuentes válidas.
  • Sé una guía de instrucciones: Requisitos del sistema y errores potenciales del juego (¿y tal vez los juegos Soluce?) serán escritos.

Varias especificaciones 

Plantillas de artículo

Serían plantillas de artículos como en Wikivoyage.

Editor

Editor es un editor de videojuegos creado en Decha y basado en Ciudad

  • Historia
  • Ubiciaciones y filiales
  • Juegos
    • Franquicias Principales
  • Críticas
  • Véase también

Universo

El universo de juego es un Fantastic/Fictional/Uchronic....

  • Historia
    • Grupos
    • Personajes
    • Críticas
    • Véase también

Personajes

Carácter es un carácter de Juego.

  • Creación y evolución
  • Historia
  • Apariciones
  • Anexos

Juego 

Juego es un juego desarrollado por Desarrollador y publicado por Editor el Fecha.

  • Universo
    Vea la lista completa del artículo + el resumen
    • Historia
    • Personajes
  • Gameplay
  • Desarrollo
  • Críticas
  • Instalación
    • Configuración requerida
  • Véase también

Ambiente

Mapa es un mapa en Juego.

  • Desarrolladores
  • Descripción
  • Características
  • Críticas

Revisores

Revisores es una Tipo de medios en la que se publican las críticas del juego de Plataformas.

  • Historia
  • Críticas
    Críticas de la comunidad y otro revisores
  • Véase también

Desarrollador 

Desarrollador es un desarrollador de un videojuego creado el Fecha basado en Ciudad.

  • Historia
  • Ubicaciones y filiales
  • Juegos
    • Franquicias principales
  • Críticas
  • Véase también

Consola 

Consola es una consola hecha por Compañía.

  • Historia
  • Desarrolladores
  • Características técnicas
  • Exclusivas
  • Críticas
  • Véase también

Colaboración del mes

Colaboración del mes sería un artículo promovido por un mes en la página principal. Los wikigamers se centrarían en el artículo, que se dedica principalmente a las consolas, los desarrolladores y los editores.

Flow & Content Translation

Flow y Content Translation sería instalado como función beta en el Village Pump.

Licencia

En una contribución, los usuarios deben ser capaces de elegir entre todas las licencias que ofrece MediaWiki y ser capaz de especificar de dónde vienen los textos que se elaboran. (Explicaciones en el argumento 2)

Páginas 

Tendríamos una política diferente de página como Wikipedia. Como Wikivoyage, diríamos que un proyecto es mejor que nada.

Categorías 

En la cabecera, se podrán buscar juegos por género, fecha de estreno, series, país, desarrollador de temas, editor o distribuidor. Así que vamos a tener que clasificar los juegos a conciencia.

Portales y proyectos

Los proyectos y portales funcionarían igual que en la Wikipedia. Portal podría parecerse a this. Los portales autorizados serían sobre juegos, franquicias, editores, desarrolladores y consolas.

Geografía

Wikigames también tocaría juegos por geografía, indicando en qué ciudad o país se encuentra un editor o revisor... Y donde se concibió un juego o consola ...

Apariencia

Wikigames quiere ser más moderno, como se muestra en la página principal de la wiki de prueba, para atraer a una comunidad más amplia. La mayoría de los iconos serían importados de The Noun Project y los colores principales del wiki sería los colores de Wikimedia azul, verde rojo y gris

Argumentos 

  • Los video-juegos tienen la falta de una buena comunidad en la mayoría de los idiomas, y las comunidades principales son gestionadas por grandes empresas que sólo quieren ganar dinero (como maldición), o aficionados entusiastas que no pueden manejar de manera adecuada por darse por vencido.
  • La mayoría de los video-juegos wikis utilizan MediaWiki y utilizan las licencias Creative Commons. En consecuencia, se trata de contenido que puede ser utilizado libremente.
  • Wikigames sin duda tendrá una gran comunidad, gracias a todas las demás wikis y comunidades mencionadas anteriormente, se rodearán en esta wiki seria y democrática, Por otra parte, habrán miembros del proyecto de video-juegos (proyectos que, en la mayoría de los idiomas de la Wikipedia, se encuentran entre los proyectos más organizados y activos).
  • Los video-juegos son una forma de aprender, crear y compartir. Es una actividad de colaboración donde personas de cualquier edad, clase social y ubicación pueden cumplir. Es un arte que merece su propia wiki.
  • No es más que suficiente el contenido para llenar un wiki entero.

No hay más problemas de elegibilidad con páginas de Wikipedia: Las características serán más rigurosas.

  • La comunidad será más joven. Esto atraerá más personas jóvenes a Wikimedia.
  • Podemos compararlo con Wikivoyage: Resaltar contenido que podría ser dividida en dos Wikipedias y Wikilibros mediante la organización de una manera diferente.

Personas interesadas  

  1. CreativeC38
  2. Metal Lanius (Fallout Wiki)
  3. Torik45(Fallout)
  4. JoJoPlatinum75 (aka MisterCoolSkin)
  5. Selyga officiel
  6. Archimëa
  7. Omni Flames
  8. Hedelmätiski (fiwiki)
  9. Nobita931
  10. Luk3
  11. HiddenKnowledge
  12. Pottero (Dragon Age Polska Wiki)
  13. Grey-Fox
  14. Goombiis
  15. Issimo 15
  16. BRAEN B STAN
  17. Dokuz sekiz
  18. Wetitpig0
  19. Richard923888
  20. Asdfugil
  21. Arepticous
  22. Bobherry
  23. PediAki
  24. Macrike (talk) 11:06, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
  25. Dingyday
  26. The Canadian Askew
  27. Shadi
  28. Dzaky17

Discusión  

Discussion

  • Vote pour le Mario Wiki francophone. JoJoPlatinum75 (talk) 19:40, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
  • I see two conflicting ideas in this proposal. (1) "each item, character, world or game engine will have its own page, no matter its notoriety" – its own page... for what? Ostensibly this is to accrete in-universe, gameguide material. But in the article contents they (2) duplicate the purpose of Wikipedia articles (gameplay, development, criticism). The only way it would be different is in having more lax citation and inclusion criteria, and I believe I have yet to see a "gameguide" wiki done well (that is, a useful full game article, that doesn't go into mindnumbing detail unhelpful to the general reader)—closest, maybe, is the Fallout wiki, for a work that actually needed a companion encyclopedia. There are many game wikis well under way that we could fork, but why? Ostensibly the community that writes the in-universe stuff the best is the small community dedicated to that topic, not a general games community. I think the Wikia model makes the most sense and that the number of ghost wikis should be a sobering reminder when considering this proposal. czar 01:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • If I read this correctly, Wikigames would primarily be a sort of inclusive game-guide that uses primary sources in addition to secondary sources. Building a collection of information based on game manuals and old-timey game guide books sounds like a really cool idea, and know the Wikipedia WikiProject on video games, this could become rather popular. The scope might need to be specified a bit more. "each item, character, world or game engine will have its own page" sounds more like describing fiction from a fictional perspective than describing video games from a mechanic perspective - the latter may be more useful. Having similar content as Wikipedia would also be inefficient, so development and reception may not be relevant for Wikigames. ~Mable (chat) 07:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Based on the support comments below, perhaps a "Wikifiction" could also be an option, as people love describing fiction from an in-universe point-of-view. I personally don't really like the idea, but if the purpose of Wikigames is to describe fiction rather than mechanics, you might as well call it what it is. ~Mable (chat) 07:53, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I hate making three completely separate comments in a row, but the proposal currently basically suggests that any one's opinion is worth adding to a page on Wikigames by saying that Youtubers are reliable sources. This seems dangerous. Could I create a blog under a false name, talk trash about a game, and then add those criticisms to the Wikigames article on said game? Does anyone have the right to remove said criticisms? I really respect some content-creators out there, but saying "anything goes" won't give you any information. ~Mable (chat) 08:00, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
    • I think this is a important issue that is needed to be cleared up. I think it is important to ensure quality in the source material, and "Youtubers will be valid sources" is a too generic statement to a too specific group. Maybe I'm over thinking for the proposal, but for me would be important to establish which are the reliable sources with individual made material. --Luk3 (talk) 16:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Wikigames是一个维基媒体基金会项目。 --Assoc (talk) 03:08, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Support

  • Support Support as creator. I'm fed up of those wikias. CreativeC38 (talk) 08:08, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Support L'idée d'aller un peu plus loin que Wikipédia en français me tente, reste à définir aussi bien le champ d'action que la manière d'y arriver. // A Wiki that can offer further informations that a classic Wiki could be a good idea. --Archimëa (talk) 18:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support. Wikia在中文区不甚流行,许多编辑在维基百科贡献内容。但遗憾的是,许多内容是维基百科不收录的“过细内容”,故开设姊妹计划是很好的主意。 // As Wikia is not so popular in Chinese-speaking regions, many a editor contributes their things at Wikipedia. Regretless, kinds of content has been defined as "over-detailed" at Wikipedia(s). Therefore, set up a sister project for further writing is a capital idea. --風中的刀劍 (talk) 16:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wikigames可以帮助收录维基百科不接受的虚构内容,例如设定、角色和攻略等。 // I think Wikigames can focus on the "fiction" of games, such as universe, characters and rules, which are not aceeptable in Wikipedia. —Chiefwei (talk) 02:13, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support Wikipedia is far too restricting for most game articles. --HiddenKnowledge (talk) 10:10, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Support This is like a other Wikipedia of a world of games of ficction, yes. Nobita931 At your service! IRC 19:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Support It’s worth a try, this idea has potential. Pottero (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support un projet intéressant, qui offrira plus de place aux jeux vidéo que Wikipedia. -- issimo 15 !? 17:42, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Support SupportThis project can facilitate people to entertain themselves more easily. It's worth to invest in it. Wetitpig0 (talk) 10:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Support This is a very nifty idea. Also, more inviting than Wikipedia. It puts Wikia in shame. --George Ho (talk) 01:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
    Shouldn't have said that. I'll say that video game community is very huge in Wikipedia. --George Ho (talk) 05:19, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 21:13, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wikipedia is not for guides --Asdfugil (talk) 11:34, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support --Assoc (talk) 03:00, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Zache (talk) 09:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Support It will be interesting. --Dingyday (talk) 06:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Support Creation of a Wikigames website would be really helpful... the websites that exist now (wikia) are corrupted and non-free. Advertisements are crawling everywhere, making the browser slower and the risk higher. Arep Ticous 17:30, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support of course.--Shadi (talk) 18:23, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support -- Dzaky17 (talk) 13:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Against

  • Oppose Oppose – as currently described, Wikigames would be similar to Wikipedia, except without any rules on fiction, without any kind of notability guidelines, and without depending on reliable sources. I don't believe that this is something Wikimedia should invest in. I personally love the idea of having a kind of Wikimedia strategywiki, using manuals and published strategy guides as sources. I could also approve of the idea of a "fiction wiki" that deliberately focuses on media from an in-universe perspective. I have difficulty understanding what the purpose of Wikigames would be, other than simply being another fanwiki. ~Mable (chat) 06:34, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose This looks like StrategyWiki x Wikia (in all their various forms) x a handful of other wikis. Wikimedia has no business in fiction without real-world context since our goal is to educate, and if these materials are too detailed, they may end up being non-free, if not a copyright violation. As an aside, I believe Wikiversity may already take walkthroughs, though you'd have to check with them. --Izno (talk) 12:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It is nearly impossible to provide the level of detail that this project proposes without reliance on non-free screenshots and/or video, and that runs against the WMF core mission. It also feels far too much of a slippery slope to allow fiction wikis that start to border on copyright problems that I think the WMF has done best to avoid. --Masem (talk) 14:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
    Who has ever mentioned about copyrighted images? Wetitpig0 (talk) 11:16, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
  • per all three above--ze un fo un (talk) 18:01, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Per extensive discussion in User:CreativeC38/Proposal#Discussion. Quiddity (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per pretty much everyone above. 😂 (talk) 22:10, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose anything worth covering can already be covered on the local language Wikipedias. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. There is Wikia for that reason. Nigos (talk) 07:53, 22 September 2019 (UTC)